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Misanthropic duck-like blood rage
  05/08/25
lol'ed at Chungin “Roy” Lee
passionate half-breed pisswyrm
  05/08/25
Imagine being a creative writing professor: Jollimore, wh...
Misanthropic duck-like blood rage
  05/08/25
it's not just the humanities buddy. if the job doesn't requi...
pale greedy area
  05/08/25
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Laughsome prole office
  05/08/25
Misalignment. The students aren’t using AI to scroll s...
Racy Obsidian Brethren Goyim
  05/08/25
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crawly address
  05/08/25
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beady-eyed flushed mexican box office
  05/08/25
They are being graded on these assignments, and they are mor...
Misunderstood Fluffy Depressive
  05/08/25
Btw, 90 percent of you will get B+ or better, but don’...
contagious confused principal's office tattoo
  05/08/25
You're putting way too much weight on most people having som...
Navy Organic Girlfriend
  05/09/25
https://x.com/GoySuperstar/status/1920192368961335719
crawly address
  05/08/25
to the extent this is a problem, the only solution is to req...
pale greedy area
  05/08/25
it's not a problem all of this shit is a waste of everyon...
crawly address
  05/08/25
assuming it's a waste of time, what should these people be d...
pale greedy area
  05/08/25
what they actually do in college: have sex with other attrac...
crawly address
  05/08/25
i wrote a whole thread on this this morning. The 25k-300...
Racy Obsidian Brethren Goyim
  05/08/25
AI still isn't a job killer. As long as there are profession...
Aquamarine aromatic degenerate business firm
  05/08/25
Print journalists in 2003: "See? Our industry is still ...
Navy Organic Girlfriend
  05/09/25
cr but it will take a while for colleges to die off one by o...
crawly address
  05/08/25
Are you saving for your kids’ college? Where will you ...
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  05/08/25
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Mahogany Shivering Abode Reading Party
  05/08/25
The bigger problem with these articles is that people are ac...
Adventurous Site Jap
  05/08/25
Lee has already moved on from hacking interviews. In April, ...
zippy claret azn
  05/08/25
It's surprising that two thigs are not obvious to these acad...
Bat Shit Crazy Diverse Potus Tanning Salon
  05/08/25
they know these things and they are indeed obvious to them ...
crawly address
  05/08/25
are grading hand written essays that much more difficult? th...
hateful rigor
  05/09/25
yeah there was a whole twitter thread of these people compla...
crawly address
  05/09/25
Point 2 is kind of bogus when it comes to humanities. These ...
fuchsia hilarious travel guidebook
  05/09/25
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Puce boyish location
  05/09/25
Can you ace OCI with AI? Or is it just going to be a phenoty...
wonderful ticket booth
  05/09/25
Now?
Navy Organic Girlfriend
  05/09/25
Fair point.
wonderful ticket booth
  05/09/25
I asked Daniel a hypothetical to try to understand where he ...
pale greedy area
  05/09/25


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Date: May 8th, 2025 11:13 AM
Author: Misanthropic duck-like blood rage

https://archive.ph/h5kpC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721927&forum_id=2#48913337)



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Date: May 8th, 2025 11:22 AM
Author: passionate half-breed pisswyrm

lol'ed at Chungin “Roy” Lee

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721927&forum_id=2#48913372)



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Date: May 8th, 2025 11:27 AM
Author: Misanthropic duck-like blood rage

Imagine being a creative writing professor:

Jollimore, who has been teaching writing for more than two decades, is now convinced that the humanities, and writing in particular, are quickly becoming an anachronistic art elective like basket-weaving. “Every time I talk to a colleague about this, the same thing comes up: retirement. When can I retire? When can I get out of this? That’s what we’re all thinking now,” he said. “This is not what we signed up for.” Williams, and other educators I spoke to, described AI’s takeover as a full-blown existential crisis. “The students kind of recognize that the system is broken and that there’s not really a point in doing this. Maybe the original meaning of these assignments has been lost or is not being communicated to them well.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721927&forum_id=2#48913385)



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Date: May 8th, 2025 11:29 AM
Author: pale greedy area

it's not just the humanities buddy. if the job doesn't require physicality it's probably fucked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721927&forum_id=2#48913392)



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Date: May 8th, 2025 11:43 AM
Author: Laughsome prole office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721927&forum_id=2#48913437)



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Date: May 8th, 2025 11:34 AM
Author: Racy Obsidian Brethren Goyim

Misalignment. The students aren’t using AI to scroll social media while they do something else. They’re not prompting AI to play Fortnite for them or something.

Activities that have meaning and value to them, they will do them themselves.

That they are using AI for schoolwork only tells you schoolwork has been judged useless. These aren’t eight year olds trying to get out of unpleasant multiplication tables. These are basically adults communicating, I don’t need any of this shit in my life. School doesn’t help me at all. They’re probably not wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721927&forum_id=2#48913404)



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Date: May 8th, 2025 11:37 AM
Author: crawly address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721927&forum_id=2#48913412)



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Date: May 8th, 2025 11:43 AM
Author: beady-eyed flushed mexican box office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721927&forum_id=2#48913435)



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Date: May 8th, 2025 10:56 PM
Author: Misunderstood Fluffy Depressive

They are being graded on these assignments, and they are more likely to get an A with AI generated work.

College has always been a joke. It’s just fully exposed now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721927&forum_id=2#48915869)



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Date: May 8th, 2025 10:59 PM
Author: contagious confused principal's office tattoo

Btw, 90 percent of you will get B+ or better, but don’t use ChatGPT, because it lacks rigor.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721927&forum_id=2#48915873)



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Date: May 9th, 2025 7:28 AM
Author: Navy Organic Girlfriend

You're putting way too much weight on most people having some coldly rational "adult" thought process instead of just taking whatever is the shortest path to maximizing leisure and idleness.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721927&forum_id=2#48916342)



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Date: May 8th, 2025 11:37 AM
Author: crawly address

https://x.com/GoySuperstar/status/1920192368961335719

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721927&forum_id=2#48913418)



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Date: May 8th, 2025 11:41 AM
Author: pale greedy area

to the extent this is a problem, the only solution is to require all in person pen and paper assignments and exams. but then that would only highlight how outdated and ridiculous education has become.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721927&forum_id=2#48913431)



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Date: May 8th, 2025 11:51 AM
Author: crawly address

it's not a problem

all of this shit is a waste of everyone's time and the only people that it benefits are the worst people in the world: pseudointellectual fake academic posers and ideologically deranged shitlib administrators

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721927&forum_id=2#48913463)



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Date: May 8th, 2025 11:55 AM
Author: pale greedy area

assuming it's a waste of time, what should these people be doing instead?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721927&forum_id=2#48913478)



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Date: May 8th, 2025 11:58 AM
Author: crawly address

what they actually do in college: have sex with other attractive young people, network, and pair off with their future husband/wife

if you read the article the azn dude actually says this out loud. he gets it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721927&forum_id=2#48913490)



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Date: May 8th, 2025 12:12 PM
Author: Racy Obsidian Brethren Goyim

i wrote a whole thread on this this morning.

The 25k-300k investment in "college" is going to stop, extremely soon. 1% of the GDP will vanish, as the academic industry vaporizes.

Fuck the gdp anyway tho, and esp fuck those it will hurt the most - academicians and admins.

The real second-order consequence is that we will lose our warehousing capacity for 18-22yos. We have nowhere else to put them. They cannot and will not afford real housing. They cannot contribute meaningfully to the careers we have available. If they do not go to college, they will either remain adolescents in dad's house, or maybe cluster into shantytown ghettos.

We need to draft them into the army. Thats the answer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721927&forum_id=2#48913534)



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Date: May 8th, 2025 12:19 PM
Author: Aquamarine aromatic degenerate business firm

AI still isn't a job killer. As long as there are professional jobs out there, there will be a need for signaling. Higher ed will have to provide that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721927&forum_id=2#48913566)



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Date: May 9th, 2025 7:30 AM
Author: Navy Organic Girlfriend

Print journalists in 2003: "See? Our industry is still strong in the Information Age. The Internet is not a job killer."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721927&forum_id=2#48916344)



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Date: May 8th, 2025 12:22 PM
Author: crawly address

cr but it will take a while for colleges to die off one by one. it's not going to happen overnight. it will take years. it takes time for all of the layers of the machine to adjust

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721927&forum_id=2#48913578)



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Date: May 8th, 2025 10:45 PM
Author: insane carmine church building

Are you saving for your kids’ college? Where will you send them after high school?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721927&forum_id=2#48915850)



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Date: May 8th, 2025 11:42 AM
Author: Mahogany Shivering Abode Reading Party



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721927&forum_id=2#48913434)



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Date: May 8th, 2025 11:59 AM
Author: Adventurous Site Jap

The bigger problem with these articles is that people are acting the normal labor market will persist. Even if AI coding never got better, it would cost large numbers of jobs. People are acting like we can have AI that can research and write large pieces of coherent text and the labor market will not significantly change. The neural network scaling hypothesis is true (which is why AI is making sudden progress in many different domains) in some form and AGI is very likely near.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721927&forum_id=2#48913493)



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Date: May 8th, 2025 12:05 PM
Author: zippy claret azn

Lee has already moved on from hacking interviews. In April, he and Shanmugam launched Cluely, which scans a user’s computer screen and listens to its audio in order to provide AI feedback and answers to questions in real time without prompting. “We built Cluely so you never have to think alone again,” the company’s manifesto reads. This time, Lee attempted a viral launch with a $140,000 scripted advertisement in which a young software engineer, played by Lee, uses Cluely installed on his glasses to lie his way through a first date with an older woman. When the date starts going south, Cluely suggests Lee “reference her art” and provides a script for him to follow. “I saw your profile and the painting with the tulips. You are the most gorgeous girl ever,” Lee reads off his glasses, which rescues his chances with her.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721927&forum_id=2#48913515)



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Date: May 8th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: Bat Shit Crazy Diverse Potus Tanning Salon

It's surprising that two thigs are not obvious to these academics:

(i) If you want to test a student's knowledge, you can just have a paper test or use essay testing software to make them answer in class. This has always been the best way. People have been cheating on essays and take home exams for 30 years.

(ii) To the extent there was value in being able to write and edit and re-edit a 5 paragraph essay for school work, there really isn't value in it anymore. It's like if your calculus class wouldn't let you use a calculator. The new value is probably in someone using AI to coax out a persuasive essay or a well thought out research paper.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721927&forum_id=2#48915782)



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Date: May 8th, 2025 10:24 PM
Author: crawly address

they know these things and they are indeed obvious to them

they're running a propaganda campaign to protest this because in your (i) they would have to do actual work, and they don't want to, and (ii) this would eliminate their sinecure "jobs" entirely

the propaganda about this is going to ramp up to a pretty severe intensity as these parasites do whatever it takes to try to cling to their parasitic privileged positions

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721927&forum_id=2#48915800)



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Date: May 9th, 2025 1:30 AM
Author: hateful rigor

are grading hand written essays that much more difficult? they could even take a picture or scan them and have chatgpt grade them if they wanted to be lazy. or have a grad student do it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721927&forum_id=2#48916134)



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Date: May 9th, 2025 9:10 AM
Author: crawly address

yeah there was a whole twitter thread of these people complaining about how grading blue book essays would be too much work lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721927&forum_id=2#48916512)



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Date: May 9th, 2025 1:38 AM
Author: fuchsia hilarious travel guidebook

Point 2 is kind of bogus when it comes to humanities. These are timeless questions and themes. The “coaxing out” is built into the writing prompt from the get go. In a weird way, this applies more to a subject like law (but more in the practice of it than the theory/law school stuff, because AIs weakness is not understanding IRL dynamics/strategic stuff. It’s people that are good at this that are gonna keep making $$$

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721927&forum_id=2#48916143)



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Date: May 9th, 2025 7:16 AM
Author: Puce boyish location



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721927&forum_id=2#48916339)



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Date: May 9th, 2025 7:44 AM
Author: wonderful ticket booth

Can you ace OCI with AI? Or is it just going to be a phenotype examination now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721927&forum_id=2#48916360)



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Date: May 9th, 2025 7:45 AM
Author: Navy Organic Girlfriend

Now?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721927&forum_id=2#48916364)



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Date: May 9th, 2025 7:46 AM
Author: wonderful ticket booth

Fair point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721927&forum_id=2#48916365)



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Date: May 9th, 2025 8:41 AM
Author: pale greedy area

I asked Daniel a hypothetical to try to understand where he thought his work began and AI’s ended: Would he be upset if he caught a romantic partner sending him an AI-generated poem? “I guess the question is what is the value proposition of the thing you’re given? Is it that they created it? Or is the value of the thing itself?” he said. “In the past, giving someone a letter usually did both things.” These days, he sends handwritten notes — after he has drafted them using ChatGPT.

uncle ted's head would explode

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5721927&forum_id=2#48916445)