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the ICE deportations are retarded

its not hard to kick out *all* the illegals without *any* ph...
cock of michael obama
  06/26/25
a major issue is that you have entire communities of illegal...
"'''""""'"'"
  06/26/25
great poast i'd add that the trump administration specifi...
Mr. Israel
  06/26/25
i've brought it up a few times in different forms but major ...
"'''""""'"'"
  06/26/25
Yes, effective enforcement is close to impossible for politi...
cock of michael obama
  06/26/25
there's not some kind of cynical "pretend" scheme ...
Mr. Israel
  06/26/25
Why does anyone bother arguing with cock of Michael Obama in...
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  06/26/25
yeah yeah i know i'm mostly just talking out loud to myse...
Mr. Israel
  06/26/25
your take is simply wrong, and i would encourage you to read...
cock of michael obama
  06/26/25
ok cool so you do recognize that the trump administration is...
Mr. Israel
  06/26/25
no, i don't recognize that. *even if they were honestly try...
cock of michael obama
  06/26/25
you edited your above post so that the language no longer ad...
Mr. Israel
  06/26/25
i clarified with a couple words ambiguity which you had twis...
cock of michael obama
  06/26/25
on the contrary, i think trump's administrators care quite a...
"'''""""'"'"
  06/26/25
see my above response to goy retardstar which also applies t...
cock of michael obama
  06/26/25
i don't really agree with the presuppositions involved all ...
"'''""""'"'"
  06/26/25
border crossings are down by 80-90% and that's a pretty subs...
"'''""""'"'"
  06/26/25
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Mr. Israel
  06/26/25
the point is that we don't want all these fucking minorities...
.,.,.....,.,.;,.,,,:,.,.,::,...,:,..;,..,
  06/26/25
Great thread, thoughtful posts, would read again
Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband
  06/26/25
But the optics!
empty of revealed godliness
  06/26/25
they arent goin back, birdshit. its over. if u were wise u w...
AZNgirl riding Persian Missile to Handsomeistan
  06/26/25
birdshits too gakked on fentanyl and meth to see this realit...
powerfully online
  06/26/25
Trump: "We're going to fully fund the final sections of...
Mr. Israel
  06/26/25
YAWN dementia joe let in *20 million illegals* between 20...
cock of michael obama
  06/26/25


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Date: June 26th, 2025 3:39 PM
Author: cock of michael obama

its not hard to kick out *all* the illegals without *any* physical deportations if the political willpower was there (it’s not)

#1 ban sending funds via western union to latam countries

#2 enforce criminal penalties on *employers* who hire illegals

#3 defund the organizations who continue to give illegals funds

all these mud creatures would self deport, all of them, if those #3 conditions were met

but they aren't met because the elite objective is not to get rid of illegals at all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743496&forum_id=2#49051854)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 3:45 PM
Author: "'''""""'"'"

a major issue is that you have entire communities of illegals and politically motivated activists working to make it as difficult, ponderous, and costly as possible to enforce the basic state necessity of having a citizen-alien distinction.

not for much in the way of expansions of state power nor things like plainclothes cops abducting otherwise law abiding guests in the country but trump is between a rock and a hard place in this one. the insanity of the last two decades regarding the valorization of what's effectively a left-wing enabled looting of the treasury and all of the public funds that the state is supposed to be overseeing on behalf of the citizenry is to blame.

novel legislation is desperately needed on the matter. it is an actual crisis. without borders both between nations and between citizens and aliens, there is effectively no nation-state.

1 is sound but would be difficult to enforce without some lateral loss in function for law enforcement for reasons relating to centralization.

2 is something that needs to be eased into, as blanket enforcement would and has lead to losses in agricultural production.

3 i agree with in spirit but there are legal difficulties in how you go about this. legislation or possibly a well written couple of EOs would solve it.

elite mindsets are changing. the events spurred on by '23 and on have a lot of people normally too insulated by their wealth and status to care thinking differently about things like this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743496&forum_id=2#49051862)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 3:55 PM
Author: Mr. Israel

great poast

i'd add that the trump administration specifically is working within the realities of electoral politics: there are things that they can and can't do because of loyalties, political deals, donors, lines that they can and can't push, etc

they have done a great job of scaring new people away from jumping the border and incentivizing self-deportations too, which has always been the #1 step to take to try to solve this problem, since it requires no resources or risk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743496&forum_id=2#49051879)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:02 PM
Author: "'''""""'"'"

i've brought it up a few times in different forms but major GOP donors via the linkage between the RNC establishment and agribusiness concerns in the republican stronghold heartland states make optimal immigration enforcement very difficult

it also genuinely sucks to uproot people from their communities and the left pretends that we're heartless for wanting that but immigration enforcement exists to protect both americans and their economic interests in the long term. this feel good mush propagated by bad faith actors on the left to make right wingers look like monstrosities simply for thinking in longer time windows re law enforcement policy regarding migrants makes the sorts of honest conversations that citizens need to have amongst themselves as well as with their legislators practically impossible.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743496&forum_id=2#49051893)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:07 PM
Author: cock of michael obama

Yes, effective enforcement is close to impossible for political and economic reasons, but we just say it like it is then: trump’s deportations are a media fig leaf and wildly ineffective. It’s meant to mollify the base a bit without doing much. So stop buying into the media’s endless lying framing on this (and every other issue).

Republican donors like open borders because it means cheap labor and expanded population for consumer goods, democrats like it because muds vote Dem and it resulted in a supermajority dem California, Jews like it because mixed race muds = whites can’t rebel, and the central bank owners like it if they want to go from nation states to Orwellian superstate blocs

The poor white guy mad about all of this doesn’t matter to them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743496&forum_id=2#49051906)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:13 PM
Author: Mr. Israel

there's not some kind of cynical "pretend" scheme going on here. the trump administration clearly wants to deport as many people as they can. stephen miller, the guy who is second-in-command to trump on this, is practically a caricature of a deportationmaxxer

they're not trying to "mollify the base," this is just the best they can do within the limitations that they face, described above. you can say that they could do a better job, and that's definitely true. you can always do better at anything. a perfectly skilled agent in stephen miller's position, supervising entirely perfectly skilled agents, would do much better than they're currently doing. but to say that they're deliberately not trying is just obviously wrong and frankly just weird and silly

you see this take all the time from a lot of people and it's clear that they haven't actually thought about it for 30 seconds or so and realized how silly it is

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743496&forum_id=2#49051931)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:18 PM
Author: ..,,....,,.,..,,..,,...,...,,....,...,


Why does anyone bother arguing with cock of Michael Obama in good faith like this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743496&forum_id=2#49051950)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:25 PM
Author: Mr. Israel

yeah yeah i know

i'm mostly just talking out loud to myself because it's pretty absurd how often you see this same "take" that he made, from all kinds of different people

it's just shocking that even quite intelligent people can end up in a place where they're proclaiming a world-model in which the trump administration, whose entire mandate is to deport as many people as they can, staffed by people who very clearly genuinely want to deport people en masse, run by stephen miller, is secretly running a cynical scheme in which they're only doing the minimum amount of deportations that they think they can get away with in order to "trick the public"

it's like i said: if you spend even 30 seconds thinking about it, you realize how silly it is. but people don't even do that. they put essentially zero thought into their world-models and end up with these goofy reflexive "takes" on stuff that collapse under any scrutiny at all

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743496&forum_id=2#49051960)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:19 PM
Author: cock of michael obama

your take is simply wrong, and i would encourage you to read the following link by kynosargas back in 2019 about why populism *always* fails in a democracy: https://archive.ph/dmmtD

basically:

1. Right-wing populists have no awareness of the depth of the problem and the necessity of a massive social transformation.

2. Right-wing populists consider metapolitics irrelevant. They view our plight as strictly a matter of state policy, therefore solvable by the legislative and executive branches (which is understandable given point 1).

3. Right-wing populists do not command parliamentary majorities or sole governments – neither in the past nor in the present, nor likely in the future. They are always in opposition or dependent on coalition partners who are not right-wing populists.

4. The institutional corset of late liberalism narrows the factual scope for political action to such a degree that profound changes are impossible.

5. Right-wing populists offer no grand designs for solutions because they lack a positive alternative framework beyond “liberalism without foreigners” (which is closely linked to points 1 and 2).

6. Right-wing populists are objectively too slow even where they bring about changes. A critical comparison between the development of right-wing populism and demographics during recent decades clearly shows that this approach is impossible solely due to lack of time (ignoring points 1–5).

therefore, even if trump and stephen miller and his administration "actually trying" to deport some people, but failing, is irrelevant to the actual deeper process occurring here, which you completely miss.

but more deeply, and i want to thank you for unintentionally inspiring this over the past week, but i have a future post planned on the nature of language - what it's used for. basically, our core clash is because you and i employ language *entirely differently*. i'll probably post it within the next couple weeks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743496&forum_id=2#49051951)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:32 PM
Author: Mr. Israel

ok cool so you do recognize that the trump administration is in fact trying to deport as many people as they can, you just lied about it above because....who knows, to argue with people on the internet, i guess

cool bud thanks for the bad faith exchange over the internet for no apparent reason

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743496&forum_id=2#49051980)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:34 PM
Author: cock of michael obama

no, i don't recognize that. *even if they were honestly trying*, which i don't agree with, it would utterly fail regardless, so motivation is basically irrelevant. and honestly counterproductive because it gets retards like you excited and distracted

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743496&forum_id=2#49051983)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:42 PM
Author: Mr. Israel

you edited your above post so that the language no longer admits that you recognize that the trump admin is trying to deport as many people as they can, because i "caught"(?) you in a rhetorical "trap"(??? which wasn't even my intention, i was just trying to have an honest conversation in good faith)

cool, man. find someone else's time to waste. really, fuck off you weird creep

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743496&forum_id=2#49052007)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:43 PM
Author: cock of michael obama

i clarified with a couple words ambiguity which you had twisted to mean something it wasn't. you suck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743496&forum_id=2#49052009)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:13 PM
Author: "'''""""'"'"

on the contrary, i think trump's administrators care quite a bit about the matter. homan is serious and clearly thinking pragmatically about what the issue represents for the future of the state's health. i find him to be one of the better picks of this administration.

what they're running into, and this is no different than the first term, is a variety of legal, quasi-legal, and outright illegal forms of resistance from states non-compliant with a core part of the federal mandate to protect the national borders and uphold the intrinsic value of american citizenship. more than anything else---even the Iran debacle---this is probably the most pressing crisis the state has experienced since 9/11. the implications are wide-reaching and dire. libs really need to sober up and accede on the matter, or the consequences of being flinty on this may seriously damage the integrity of the nation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743496&forum_id=2#49051932)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:21 PM
Author: cock of michael obama

see my above response to goy retardstar which also applies to your response

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743496&forum_id=2#49051956)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:39 PM
Author: "'''""""'"'"

i don't really agree with the presuppositions involved

all these internet bloggers push junk theories written in rigid seeming but very transient in reality psuedotheory to provide an authoritative or lasting tone to comments on phenomena that are usually very situational and dated. (clique cough theory)

"they're sincerely trying, but the fight is poorly understood and attached to a vipers nest of complications" is a correct take on the matter. a productive bit of discussion on the matter would be legislative solutions regarding how to deal with said complications

i like the idea of producing an official sort of neither citizen nor alien class of identification for migrant workers. iirc eisenhower and i think jfk's admin had discussions about how to do this, although it didn't really go anywhere

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743496&forum_id=2#49051997)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: "'''""""'"'"

border crossings are down by 80-90% and that's a pretty substantial difference from the what, 60 to 80 thousand a month coming in

and deportations are up but not by much. they have done a good job re identifying illegal immigrants though and that's about half the fight

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743496&forum_id=2#49052022)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:26 PM
Author: Mr. Israel

🫡

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743496&forum_id=2#49051966)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:15 PM
Author: .,.,.....,.,.;,.,,,:,.,.,::,...,:,..;,..,


the point is that we don't want all these fucking minorities shitting up our country. a lid needs to put on it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743496&forum_id=2#49051937)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:17 PM
Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband

Great thread, thoughtful posts, would read again

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743496&forum_id=2#49051940)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:19 PM
Author: empty of revealed godliness

But the optics!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743496&forum_id=2#49051954)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:35 PM
Author: AZNgirl riding Persian Missile to Handsomeistan

they arent goin back, birdshit. its over. if u were wise u wld focus on fixing ur furked up community instead of diss

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743496&forum_id=2#49051991)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: powerfully online

birdshits too gakked on fentanyl and meth to see this reality

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743496&forum_id=2#49052026)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 5:56 PM
Author: Mr. Israel

Trump: "We're going to fully fund the final sections of border wall, impose a new remittance tax on money sent back to foreign countries, and dramatically increase deportations to a bare minimum of 1 million illegal aliens per year."

https://x.com/TPostMillennial/status/1938341902320894230

we'll see how much of this they're able to get done, but at least they're voluntarily publicly verbalizing standards that they can be held to

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743496&forum_id=2#49052205)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 8:25 PM
Author: cock of michael obama

YAWN

dementia joe let in *20 million illegals* between 2021-2025

if orange retard evicts 5% of them, let alone get back to 2021 baseline (when 50 million needed to be expelled) wake me up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743496&forum_id=2#49052533)