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5-10 years... "biglawyers" = lamplighters out of work

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Shimmering mentally impaired lodge
  07/18/25
God willing
Dun messiness orchestra pit
  07/18/25
Inshallah
Shimmering mentally impaired lodge
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Beady-eyed Crystalline Dilemma Jap
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Shimmering mentally impaired lodge
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nickel endimed
Motley locus friendly grandma
  07/18/25
What happens next though? Clearly we still have lawyers ...
rough-skinned stead philosopher-king
  07/18/25
Interesting point. Here in shitlaw, I have people calling m...
translucent appetizing trailer park
  07/18/25
What is the bulk of your business
Opaque Mental Disorder
  07/18/25
The single biggest area is rural real estate law. Evictions...
translucent appetizing trailer park
  07/18/25
lol 180
galvanic chrome roast beef
  07/18/25
180
Opaque Mental Disorder
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aromatic hall athletic conference
  07/19/25
prole squabbles, llp
unhinged liquid oxygen locale
  07/18/25
UBI is a must and these gains in income (from LLM technologi...
contagious violent azn
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Shimmering mentally impaired lodge
  07/18/25
how about we just have billionaires who "lord" ove...
marvelous theater
  07/18/25
Don't count on a 10 year horizon. Get your retirement money ...
Mind-boggling Aquamarine Doctorate Coffee Pot
  07/18/25
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Shimmering mentally impaired lodge
  07/18/25
I’ve used Lexis and westlaw’s AI. Still not impr...
cordovan fear-inspiring nursing home headpube
  07/18/25
I'm not sure what sort of tools biglaw is using, but AI capa...
hideous embarrassed to the bone den macaca
  07/18/25
It’s pretty crap right now and often in law there&rsqu...
green wonderful heaven
  07/18/25
Yeah I think this is horseshit cope tbh. Models like o3 pro ...
hideous embarrassed to the bone den macaca
  07/18/25
It pushes out shit legal work product riddled with hallucina...
green wonderful heaven
  07/18/25
Also, the law isn’t just pure logic or even complex lo...
green wonderful heaven
  07/18/25
Coping fag hello
green wonderful heaven
  07/18/25
You're just wrong about AI capabilities and AI's ability to ...
hideous embarrassed to the bone den macaca
  07/18/25
Not only that but it basically only has to be good enough to...
Frisky orchid partner chapel
  07/18/25
Why don’t you explain why I’m wrong instead of s...
green wonderful heaven
  07/19/25
Just respond to chatgpt and ask it for the pro-legal AI argu...
Bespoke set
  07/19/25
Current reality supports the anti-AI argument. AI law produ...
green wonderful heaven
  07/19/25
OP also thought Excel would eliminate accountants
kink-friendly forum main people
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Ungodly drunken center
  07/19/25
I wish.
Cruel-hearted parlor striped hyena
  07/18/25
Its barely any better than a google search was 6 years ago. ...
Curious Mexican
  07/18/25


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Date: July 18th, 2025 4:16 AM
Author: Shimmering mentally impaired lodge



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Date: July 18th, 2025 4:23 AM
Author: Dun messiness orchestra pit

God willing

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Date: July 18th, 2025 4:53 AM
Author: Shimmering mentally impaired lodge

Inshallah

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Date: July 18th, 2025 5:46 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Crystalline Dilemma Jap



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:49 PM
Author: Shimmering mentally impaired lodge



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Date: July 18th, 2025 4:53 AM
Author: Motley locus friendly grandma

nickel endimed

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Date: July 18th, 2025 6:33 AM
Author: rough-skinned stead philosopher-king

What happens next though?

Clearly we still have lawyers and law firms, but perhaps the firm headcount drops to 10% the current headcount, and AI/software picks up the slack.

In that world, is the firm owned by just a handful of partners? Do law firms start to act like lean software companies? When does a U.S. firm IPO?

The counterpoint btw is that we just do a lot more work that was prohibitively expensive before. For example, I probably see 25+ cease and desist letters for every lawsuit, because letters cost $5-10k and lawsuits cost $100k to initiate and $5M+ to litigate through summary judgment. If cost of litigation drops [80%] people may file many more lawsuits. There could be an analogous dynamic on the corporate/business side.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2#49111194)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:00 AM
Author: translucent appetizing trailer park

Interesting point. Here in shitlaw, I have people calling me virtually every day because their "friend" cheated them out of $300 or something. I tell them it doesn't make financial sense to pursue that and they start crying. There's a big untapped market out there for adjudicating squabbles among proles.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2#49111342)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:28 AM
Author: Opaque Mental Disorder

What is the bulk of your business

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2#49111384)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:43 AM
Author: translucent appetizing trailer park

The single biggest area is rural real estate law. Evictions, construction disputes, zoning issues. Tons of lawsuits over exactly who owns some piece of land, often with a rotting mobile home sitting on it. Average client expenditure is about $3000, but that varies wildly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2#49111405)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:54 AM
Author: galvanic chrome roast beef

lol 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2#49111430)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: Opaque Mental Disorder

180

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Date: July 19th, 2025 7:10 AM
Author: aromatic hall athletic conference



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: unhinged liquid oxygen locale

prole squabbles, llp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2#49111464)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:46 AM
Author: contagious violent azn

UBI is a must and these gains in income (from LLM technologies)for the technologists or corporations replacing people with chatbots needs to be scrutinized and tracked ASAP to start determining the amount owed to the american citizenry

it's critical

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2#49111414)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: Shimmering mentally impaired lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2#49113498)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:56 PM
Author: marvelous theater

how about we just have billionaires who "lord" over us and poors who you could say serve or maybe "serf" them and then anyone who doesn't go along with this gets to die

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2#49113524)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:47 AM
Author: Mind-boggling Aquamarine Doctorate Coffee Pot

Don't count on a 10 year horizon. Get your retirement money as soon as you fucking can

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2#49111417)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: Shimmering mentally impaired lodge



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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:50 AM
Author: cordovan fear-inspiring nursing home headpube

I’ve used Lexis and westlaw’s AI. Still not impressed. It helps, it certainly makes us more productive, but major reductions in headcount? Also, everyone keeps saying wait another year. But we’re a couple of years in and the capabilities (at least as applied to law) seem about the same.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2#49111420)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:57 AM
Author: hideous embarrassed to the bone den macaca

I'm not sure what sort of tools biglaw is using, but AI capabilities have skyrocketed over the past two years and there's no reason that wouldn't apply to law if it applies subjects that are at least as complex.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2#49111435)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:33 AM
Author: green wonderful heaven

It’s pretty crap right now and often in law there’s no objectively correct answer unlike coding or whatever. Here’s a better explanation why law is harder to master for AI than coding.

Coding is governed by strict syntax and deterministic rules. A given input in a programming language will always produce the same output if the code is correct.

• Legal analysis involves ambiguous language, conflicting authorities, policy tradeoffs, and context-sensitive reasoning—skills that require human judgment and real-world understanding.

AI has been trained on massive open-source code repositories like GitHub, with clear labels, documentation, and results. This data is abundant, consistent, and high-quality.

• Legal data is more fragmented:

• Case law is often behind paywalls.

• Court decisions may be long, inconsistent, or involve complex procedural postures.

• Outcomes are not always “correct” or universally agreed upon.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2#49111495)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:34 AM
Author: hideous embarrassed to the bone den macaca

Yeah I think this is horseshit cope tbh. Models like o3 pro can absolutely handle textual nuance and complex questions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2#49111500)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:44 AM
Author: green wonderful heaven

It pushes out shit legal work product riddled with hallucinations or misstatements of the law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2#49111526)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 11:24 AM
Author: green wonderful heaven

Also, the law isn’t just pure logic or even complex logic, unlike coding, there’s no single correct answer to the important questions that get litigated, the legal background is often contradictory and nuanced so you can’t just train it easily.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2#49111634)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 12:04 PM
Author: green wonderful heaven

Coping fag hello

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2#49111710)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 12:10 PM
Author: hideous embarrassed to the bone den macaca

You're just wrong about AI capabilities and AI's ability to generate responses when there isn't an objectively correct answer, there isn't much else to say. If anything law being subjective bullshit will make it easier to automate. When I deal with ai skeptics these days I mostly just wait for reality to prove them wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2#49111715)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 5:46 PM
Author: Frisky orchid partner chapel

Not only that but it basically only has to be good enough to replace paralegals and juniors to have an enormous impact, which it pretty much already has

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2#49112807)



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Date: July 19th, 2025 7:23 AM
Author: green wonderful heaven

Why don’t you explain why I’m wrong instead of saying “I’m just wrong” with no explanation?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2#49113912)



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Date: July 19th, 2025 7:26 AM
Author: Bespoke set

Just respond to chatgpt and ask it for the pro-legal AI argument to the answer it just gave you

(delete the em dash next time you retard)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2#49113914)



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Date: July 19th, 2025 2:45 PM
Author: green wonderful heaven

Current reality supports the anti-AI argument. AI law products are pretty shit for any complex practice.

No doubt that people who rely on making money through teams of 20 paralegals filling out forms and doing rote tasks will change a lot but automating such repetitive thoughtless tasks is entirely different than writing a compelling brief based on nuanced and complex facts in an uncertain area of law.

It most likely will be similar to how word processing eliminated a lot of support positions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2#49114500)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:58 AM
Author: kink-friendly forum main people

OP also thought Excel would eliminate accountants

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2#49111438)



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Date: July 19th, 2025 1:33 AM
Author: Ungodly drunken center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2#49113713)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:23 AM
Author: Cruel-hearted parlor striped hyena

I wish.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2#49111468)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 12:24 PM
Author: Curious Mexican

Its barely any better than a google search was 6 years ago. Add on top that people using it are dumber. All AI is going to do is maybe help the few smart people left do stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2#49111741)