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new U.S. Natl Security Strategy declares Ukraine “outright backwater”

"It is a core interest of the United States to negotiat...
Violent theater stage
  12/05/25
also basically promises to foment an “insurgency&rdquo...
Violent theater stage
  12/05/25
You’re a fool if you think the admin’s views are...
Tripping racy heaven
  12/05/25
you’re right being considered a “core interes...
Violent theater stage
  12/05/25
Are you illiterate?
Up-to-no-good Pearl Hall
  12/05/25
the core interest is in ending the war to "rebuild"...
Tripping racy heaven
  12/05/25
you have severe TDS and you should seek help start by no...
Violent theater stage
  12/05/25
You're watching your GF make out with another guy and tellin...
Tripping racy heaven
  12/05/25
nice insight into your deranged lib mind
Violent theater stage
  12/05/25
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amber double fault
  12/05/25
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Rusted Hideous Forum
  12/05/25
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Effete chrome toilet seat dysfunction
  12/05/25
wow
stimulating library
  12/05/25
...
Stirring Primrose Halford
  12/06/25
I genuinely think TDNW may read at a 4th grade level
Up-to-no-good Pearl Hall
  12/05/25
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amber double fault
  12/05/25
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Rusted Hideous Forum
  12/05/25
Or the Trump inner circle believes they have more to persona...
Effete chrome toilet seat dysfunction
  12/05/25
...
Effete chrome toilet seat dysfunction
  12/05/25
Ukraine is doomed regardless. It was always doomed and the r...
cocky abode
  12/06/25
France and Germany warn Zelensky Trump is a Russian agent an...
amber double fault
  12/05/25
lol, a new Cold War between the U.S. and cucked put old Euro...
Violent theater stage
  12/05/25
Where does Ukraine's funding currently come from? Hint: h...
Rusted Hideous Forum
  12/05/25
you literally can’t see more than one step ahead, can...
Violent theater stage
  12/05/25
Yeah man, it is 458d chess. This totally ends well for Ukra...
Rusted Hideous Forum
  12/05/25
I didn't realize Ukraine's survival as a viable state was in...
Galvanic indian lodge party of the first part
  12/05/25
Here's why that's actually good news for Ukraine...
Rusted Hideous Forum
  12/05/25
This basically confirms what Are Reptile and others have bee...
Rusted Hideous Forum
  12/05/25
lol, so so retarded jfc
Violent theater stage
  12/05/25
You're a complete moron if you don't understand this. Other...
Rusted Hideous Forum
  12/05/25
I used to think lsd was the stupidest MAGA but, damn, this o...
Up-to-no-good Pearl Hall
  12/05/25
“The new NSS means “this” will continue,&r...
Violent theater stage
  12/05/25
TDNW: "The NSS said we have to get Ukraine to accept a ...
Rusted Hideous Forum
  12/05/25
oh I see, you’re so retarded that you think the pressu...
Violent theater stage
  12/05/25
JFC. Sober up and read this thread again.
Rusted Hideous Forum
  12/05/25
it’s way over your simple peasant head and here you ar...
Violent theater stage
  12/05/25
"it’s way over your simple peasant head and here ...
Rusted Hideous Forum
  12/05/25
...
Sepia juggernaut tanning salon
  12/05/25
Update?
Chocolate bawdyhouse
  12/05/25
the Ukraine was always known as a corrupt shithole until 202...
Trip location
  12/05/25
... after which Ukraine has had exactly 0 elections.
Rusted Hideous Forum
  12/05/25
Ukraine has had 5 presidents while russia has that walking c...
Violent theater stage
  12/05/25
Putin is incredibly popular, Zelensky is universally hated. ...
Rusted Hideous Forum
  12/05/25
“There it is!”
Violent theater stage
  12/05/25
Ukraine was far more corrupt in 2013 under the thumb of russ...
Violent theater stage
  12/05/25
Let me tell you about Ukraine in 2013: it had a real economy...
Rusted Hideous Forum
  12/05/25
TMF: “it was not big deal that Yanuk and his “fa...
Violent theater stage
  12/05/25
They definitely grifted as has everyone before and since but...
Rusted Hideous Forum
  12/05/25
are you illiterate? it says that it is a core interest of...
know-it-all ticket booth
  12/05/25
...
Rusted Hideous Forum
  12/05/25
why is it good for Ukraine to have the U.S. on it’s si...
Violent theater stage
  12/06/25
Confirmed illiterate.
Up-to-no-good Pearl Hall
  12/06/25
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know-it-all ticket booth
  12/06/25
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Stirring Primrose Halford
  12/06/25
Ukraine is not surviving as a viable state. Russia will kill...
cocky abode
  12/06/25


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Date: December 5th, 2025 12:44 PM
Author: Violent theater stage

"It is a core interest of the United States to negotiate an expeditious cessation of hostilities in Ukraine, in order ... to enable the post-hostilities reconstruction of Ukraine to enable its survival as a viable state."

https://x.com/ulrichspeck/status/1996880854669533365

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806624&forum_id=2#49486157)



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Date: December 5th, 2025 1:10 PM
Author: Violent theater stage

also basically promises to foment an “insurgency” type movement within the EU

18000000000 Brussels delenda est

“new us national security strategy is out

notable on europe, reflects an administration that believes a weak eu is in america’s interests: ”cultivating resistance to europe’s current trajectory within european nations.”

https://x.com/ianbremmer/status/1996932498027151834

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806624&forum_id=2#49486246)



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Date: December 5th, 2025 1:30 PM
Author: Tripping racy heaven

You’re a fool if you think the admin’s views are anything positive for Ukraine. They think they can pull Russia to their side in their competition with China. They are naive morons who simply react negatively to anything “lib-coded” like the EU.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806624&forum_id=2#49486312)



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Date: December 5th, 2025 1:44 PM
Author: Violent theater stage

you’re right

being considered a “core interest” by the U.S. over a 10-year period is ACKSHUALLY devastating for Ukraine

🙄

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806624&forum_id=2#49486344)



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Date: December 5th, 2025 2:17 PM
Author: Up-to-no-good Pearl Hall

Are you illiterate?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806624&forum_id=2#49486434)



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Date: December 5th, 2025 2:39 PM
Author: Tripping racy heaven

the core interest is in ending the war to "rebuild" (aka reconstruction grift). Look at the original 28 point plan that Witkoff delivered. Frozen assets invested in US joint partnerships with Russia and Ukraine. These guys are naive morons who truly believe that the US has more common interests with Russia than the EU.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806624&forum_id=2#49486508)



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Date: December 5th, 2025 2:47 PM
Author: Violent theater stage

you have severe TDS and you should seek help

start by not being a faggot anymore

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806624&forum_id=2#49486548)



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Date: December 5th, 2025 3:11 PM
Author: Tripping racy heaven

You're watching your GF make out with another guy and telling yourself she's just practicing for me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806624&forum_id=2#49486624)



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Date: December 5th, 2025 3:35 PM
Author: Violent theater stage

nice insight into your deranged lib mind

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806624&forum_id=2#49486683)



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Date: December 5th, 2025 3:52 PM
Author: amber double fault



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806624&forum_id=2#49486716)



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Date: December 5th, 2025 4:17 PM
Author: Rusted Hideous Forum



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806624&forum_id=2#49486777)



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Date: December 5th, 2025 4:36 PM
Author: Effete chrome toilet seat dysfunction



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806624&forum_id=2#49486821)



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Date: December 5th, 2025 5:13 PM
Author: stimulating library

wow

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806624&forum_id=2#49486956)



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Date: December 6th, 2025 11:12 AM
Author: Stirring Primrose Halford



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806624&forum_id=2#49488352)



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Date: December 5th, 2025 3:43 PM
Author: Up-to-no-good Pearl Hall

I genuinely think TDNW may read at a 4th grade level

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806624&forum_id=2#49486703)



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Date: December 5th, 2025 3:52 PM
Author: amber double fault



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806624&forum_id=2#49486717)



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Date: December 5th, 2025 4:04 PM
Author: Rusted Hideous Forum



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806624&forum_id=2#49486753)



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Date: December 5th, 2025 3:58 PM
Author: Effete chrome toilet seat dysfunction

Or the Trump inner circle believes they have more to personally gain from an alignment with Russia with the rest of the administration falling in line out of duty.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806624&forum_id=2#49486736)



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Date: December 5th, 2025 3:54 PM
Author: Effete chrome toilet seat dysfunction



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806624&forum_id=2#49486719)



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Date: December 6th, 2025 11:11 AM
Author: cocky abode

Ukraine is doomed regardless. It was always doomed and the real question is and always was do the Russians stop there or do they rape the Poles and Balts too. I think the Balts are guaranteed a fucking in the 2030s and Poland before 2050. NATO is dead.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806624&forum_id=2#49488349)



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Date: December 5th, 2025 3:51 PM
Author: amber double fault

France and Germany warn Zelensky Trump is a Russian agent and not to agree to anything Trump proposes

https://x.com/holledge/status/1996872171860513193?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806624&forum_id=2#49486714)



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Date: December 5th, 2025 3:55 PM
Author: Violent theater stage

lol, a new Cold War between the U.S. and cucked put old Europe just started today

let’s see who wins this one, cotton 😂

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806624&forum_id=2#49486730)



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Date: December 5th, 2025 4:20 PM
Author: Rusted Hideous Forum

Where does Ukraine's funding currently come from?

Hint: https://x.com/GeopolitixM/status/1997039517073920509



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806624&forum_id=2#49486785)



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Date: December 5th, 2025 4:26 PM
Author: Violent theater stage

you literally can’t see more than one step ahead, can you?

sad little boy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806624&forum_id=2#49486798)



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Date: December 5th, 2025 4:35 PM
Author: Rusted Hideous Forum

Yeah man, it is 458d chess. This totally ends well for Ukraine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806624&forum_id=2#49486819)



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Date: December 5th, 2025 3:51 PM
Author: Galvanic indian lodge party of the first part

I didn't realize Ukraine's survival as a viable state was in doubt. Thanks for the info, TDNW.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806624&forum_id=2#49486715)



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Date: December 5th, 2025 4:17 PM
Author: Rusted Hideous Forum

Here's why that's actually good news for Ukraine...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806624&forum_id=2#49486780)



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Date: December 5th, 2025 3:58 PM
Author: Rusted Hideous Forum

This basically confirms what Are Reptile and others have been saying, which is that if this continues there will simply be no more independent Ukraine at all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806624&forum_id=2#49486738)



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Date: December 5th, 2025 4:02 PM
Author: Violent theater stage

lol, so so retarded jfc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806624&forum_id=2#49486749)



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Date: December 5th, 2025 4:05 PM
Author: Rusted Hideous Forum

You're a complete moron if you don't understand this. Others are making fun of you for your shitty reading comp ITT for a reason.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806624&forum_id=2#49486756)



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Date: December 5th, 2025 4:13 PM
Author: Up-to-no-good Pearl Hall

I used to think lsd was the stupidest MAGA but, damn, this one can’t even read

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806624&forum_id=2#49486769)



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Date: December 5th, 2025 4:22 PM
Author: Violent theater stage

“The new NSS means “this” will continue,” says TMF the dorky jew in house tech fag with an ugly wife and a fake child

you’re the expert!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806624&forum_id=2#49486791)



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Date: December 5th, 2025 4:26 PM
Author: Rusted Hideous Forum

TDNW: "The NSS said we have to get Ukraine to accept a peace agreement with Russia or else it will stop existing as an independent nation" PWN3D TMF!!!! YOU HEAR THAT!!! PWN3D!!!1

I hope for your sake that you are very drunk in the middle of the day but that you will soon enter recovery.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806624&forum_id=2#49486797)



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Date: December 5th, 2025 4:27 PM
Author: Violent theater stage

oh I see, you’re so retarded that you think the pressure is only on Ukraine?

lol, we should deport you russian Jews right after the Somalis

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806624&forum_id=2#49486800)



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Date: December 5th, 2025 4:31 PM
Author: Rusted Hideous Forum

JFC. Sober up and read this thread again.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806624&forum_id=2#49486810)



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Date: December 5th, 2025 4:35 PM
Author: Violent theater stage

it’s way over your simple peasant head and here you are being condescending hehe

dorky little Jewish boy doesnt know how to cope otherwise

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806624&forum_id=2#49486820)



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Date: December 5th, 2025 4:39 PM
Author: Rusted Hideous Forum

"it’s way over your simple peasant head and here you are being condescending hehe"

Amazing sentence right here. Saving for when you sober up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806624&forum_id=2#49486839)



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Date: December 5th, 2025 4:10 PM
Author: Sepia juggernaut tanning salon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806624&forum_id=2#49486764)



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Date: December 5th, 2025 4:12 PM
Author: Chocolate bawdyhouse

Update?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806624&forum_id=2#49486768)



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Date: December 5th, 2025 4:21 PM
Author: Trip location

the Ukraine was always known as a corrupt shithole until 2022 when it became a glorious beacon of democracy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806624&forum_id=2#49486789)



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Date: December 5th, 2025 4:23 PM
Author: Rusted Hideous Forum

... after which Ukraine has had exactly 0 elections.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806624&forum_id=2#49486793)



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Date: December 5th, 2025 4:28 PM
Author: Violent theater stage

Ukraine has had 5 presidents while russia has that walking corpse Putin for 25 years now

TMF: “and here’s why that’s a good thing”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806624&forum_id=2#49486803)



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Date: December 5th, 2025 4:32 PM
Author: Rusted Hideous Forum

Putin is incredibly popular, Zelensky is universally hated. So there's that. But regardless, Zelensky isn't holding elections if he can help it and spends most of his time abroad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806624&forum_id=2#49486812)



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Date: December 5th, 2025 4:36 PM
Author: Violent theater stage

“There it is!”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806624&forum_id=2#49486822)



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Date: December 5th, 2025 4:24 PM
Author: Violent theater stage

Ukraine was far more corrupt in 2013 under the thumb of russia. since 2014 their troubles have mainly come from rejecting russian imperial nihilism

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806624&forum_id=2#49486796)



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Date: December 5th, 2025 4:30 PM
Author: Rusted Hideous Forum

Let me tell you about Ukraine in 2013: it had a real economy and was a much larger country with a much bigger population. There was no military conscription, no millions of Ukrainians that fled the country, and Ukraine traded with pretty much everyone. There were entire categories of corruption that have been invented since then, such as bribing officials to flee the country or defer military service again. There is no one that prefers Ukraine today to Ukraine in 2013. As evidence I'll offer that you lived in Ukraine in 2013 and since then have fucked off back to the US because despite your bs here even you are not actually dumb enough to remain in Ukraine post-2022.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806624&forum_id=2#49486806)



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Date: December 5th, 2025 4:37 PM
Author: Violent theater stage

TMF: “it was not big deal that Yanuk and his “family” stole billions and billions from state coffers. Those were the golden years!”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806624&forum_id=2#49486829)



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Date: December 5th, 2025 4:41 PM
Author: Rusted Hideous Forum

They definitely grifted as has everyone before and since but it definitely got MUCH worse after Yanukovich left.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806624&forum_id=2#49486846)



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Date: December 5th, 2025 4:45 PM
Author: know-it-all ticket booth

are you illiterate?

it says that it is a core interest of the US to achieve a rapid peace because that is the only way Ukraine will continue to exist as a viable state

how is that in any way positive for Ukraine?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806624&forum_id=2#49486858)



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Date: December 5th, 2025 4:48 PM
Author: Rusted Hideous Forum



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806624&forum_id=2#49486868)



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Date: December 6th, 2025 3:11 AM
Author: Violent theater stage

why is it good for Ukraine to have the U.S. on it’s side? is that what you’re asking me?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806624&forum_id=2#49487927)



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Date: December 6th, 2025 11:06 AM
Author: Up-to-no-good Pearl Hall

Confirmed illiterate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806624&forum_id=2#49488336)



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Date: December 6th, 2025 1:44 PM
Author: know-it-all ticket booth



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806624&forum_id=2#49488711)



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Date: December 6th, 2025 11:12 AM
Author: Stirring Primrose Halford



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806624&forum_id=2#49488351)



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Date: December 6th, 2025 11:07 AM
Author: cocky abode

Ukraine is not surviving as a viable state. Russia will kill as many of them as it wants and take what it wants and the US will be lucky if it ends there and Vlad doesn’t also kill every last Balt and Pole just to prove a point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5806624&forum_id=2#49488341)