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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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tripping nudist mental disorder potus
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
talented magical giraffe
  12/16/25
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tripping nudist mental disorder potus
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
Orchid floppy deer antler organic girlfriend
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
talented magical giraffe
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
Orchid floppy deer antler organic girlfriend
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
talented magical giraffe
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
Orchid floppy deer antler organic girlfriend
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
tripping nudist mental disorder potus
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
talented magical giraffe
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
Orchid floppy deer antler organic girlfriend
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
talented magical giraffe
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
Orchid floppy deer antler organic girlfriend
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tripping nudist mental disorder potus
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talented magical giraffe
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
Massive Space
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
talented magical giraffe
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Massive Space
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
charcoal kitchen
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
talented magical giraffe
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
Cowardly toilet seat gas station
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
talented magical giraffe
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
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tripping nudist mental disorder potus
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
Thriller alcoholic half-breed cumskin
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
Walnut sanctuary
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Thriller alcoholic half-breed cumskin
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tripping nudist mental disorder potus
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tripping nudist mental disorder potus
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There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
Orchid floppy deer antler organic girlfriend
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
adventurous laser beams hospital
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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: tripping nudist mental disorder potus



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: talented magical giraffe

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515464)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: tripping nudist mental disorder potus

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: Orchid floppy deer antler organic girlfriend

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: talented magical giraffe

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Orchid floppy deer antler organic girlfriend

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: talented magical giraffe

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: Orchid floppy deer antler organic girlfriend

Guns are muktzah.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: tripping nudist mental disorder potus

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: talented magical giraffe

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: Orchid floppy deer antler organic girlfriend

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: talented magical giraffe

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: Orchid floppy deer antler organic girlfriend

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49516569)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: tripping nudist mental disorder potus



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: talented magical giraffe



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Massive Space

how do they get home?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: talented magical giraffe

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: Massive Space



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: charcoal kitchen

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: talented magical giraffe

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Cowardly toilet seat gas station

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: talented magical giraffe

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: Khaki flirting rigor

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: talented magical giraffe



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: tripping nudist mental disorder potus



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Thriller alcoholic half-breed cumskin

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: Walnut sanctuary

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: talented magical giraffe



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Thriller alcoholic half-breed cumskin



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: tripping nudist mental disorder potus



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: tripping nudist mental disorder potus



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: Orchid floppy deer antler organic girlfriend

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: adventurous laser beams hospital

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

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