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Poll: Draft by "End of Day" Means 5 pm, 8 pm, midnight, 9 am next day?

Also--your time or their time?
Jade French Chef
  01/05/26
your time eod 12am
judgmental quadroon gas station
  01/05/26
...
Sick Iridescent Gunner
  01/05/26
Why midnight? Assume you don't have a reason to think the pe...
Jade French Chef
  01/05/26
“Assume you don't have a reason to think the people wa...
angry resort
  01/05/26
eod = midnight cob = 1700
vibrant self-centered toaster sanctuary
  01/05/26
...
Effete fluffy state
  01/05/26
Cr
Stimulating dingle berry
  01/05/26
...
Soggy gold stag film
  01/05/26
"When it's done"
nighttime affirmative action
  01/05/26
What if it's not done until after EOD?
Jade French Chef
  01/05/26
Will flip this to you ASAP, thanks
nighttime affirmative action
  01/05/26
...
federal trailer park toilet seat
  01/05/26
depends on the context. court filing? midnight. in-house? li...
useless fishy chapel
  01/05/26
Court filing is easy insofar as there will be a Local Rule. ...
Jade French Chef
  01/05/26
it depends on your office culture and who else is involved
useless fishy chapel
  01/05/26
Biglaw trannies are also midnight, but 10 pm is far more app...
Maize Hairraiser Home
  01/05/26
Setting an artificial 4 pm deadline is wild. If someone want...
Jade French Chef
  01/05/26
I’m absolutely swamped with poasts to make
sickened bearded theater mother
  01/05/26
Yes. The point of the 4 pm deadline is for them to pretend t...
Maize Hairraiser Home
  01/05/26
2pm if a scientist needs to review it
nudist contagious candlestick maker indirect expression
  01/05/26
...
Effete fluffy state
  01/05/26
...
180 misanthropic blood rage
  01/05/26
...
Startled Vivacious Patrolman
  01/05/26
usually means "within the hour"
heady dopamine
  01/05/26
9 or 10pm
Lascivious address
  01/05/26
Why those times? At 9, I might just be logging back on after...
Jade French Chef
  01/05/26
It generally means 5 or 6pm in the requestor’s time zo...
cerebral meetinghouse turdskin
  01/05/26
What is requestor is in Europe? Or you're on west coast, req...
Jade French Chef
  01/05/26
in house it means 5 to 6pm. biglaw it means midnight.
filthy bossy legend
  01/05/26
Cr.
Lemon comical skinny woman range
  01/05/26
...
Shimmering dog poop
  01/05/26
More precisely in biglaw, end of day means “before you...
Startled Vivacious Patrolman
  01/05/26
There’s going to be more punctuation at the end of tha...
cerebral meetinghouse turdskin
  01/06/26
lol
Startled Vivacious Patrolman
  01/07/26
At the end of the day, what does it matter?
Misunderstood Really Tough Guy
  01/05/26
close of business means by 5pm, but end of day is anytime by...
Aromatic Office
  01/06/26
You got it reversed
Startled Vivacious Patrolman
  01/07/26
...
Startled Vivacious Patrolman
  01/13/26


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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:13 PM
Author: Jade French Chef

Also--your time or their time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2#49564535)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:15 PM
Author: judgmental quadroon gas station

your time eod 12am

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2#49564546)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:18 PM
Author: Sick Iridescent Gunner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2#49564549)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:20 PM
Author: Jade French Chef

Why midnight? Assume you don't have a reason to think the people waiting on the draft are going to do another turn in the wee hours of the morning. So, at that point, what's the differences with doing (and billing for) a few more hours and sending it at 3 am?

And at that point, what's the difference with waiting to send it at 7 or 8 am, before the next workday starts?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2#49564561)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 4:50 PM
Author: angry resort

“Assume you don't have a reason to think the people waiting on the draft are going to do another turn in the wee hours of the morning.”

what kind of penny-ante hobbyists are you working across from?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2#49564839)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:18 PM
Author: vibrant self-centered toaster sanctuary

eod = midnight

cob = 1700

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2#49564552)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:20 PM
Author: Effete fluffy state



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2#49564562)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:51 PM
Author: Stimulating dingle berry

Cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2#49564673)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:53 PM
Author: Soggy gold stag film



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2#49564678)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:19 PM
Author: nighttime affirmative action

"When it's done"



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2#49564555)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:21 PM
Author: Jade French Chef

What if it's not done until after EOD?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2#49564564)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:26 PM
Author: nighttime affirmative action

Will flip this to you ASAP, thanks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2#49564579)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 11:45 PM
Author: federal trailer park toilet seat



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2#49565826)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:20 PM
Author: useless fishy chapel

depends on the context. court filing? midnight. in-house? like 2pm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2#49564560)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:23 PM
Author: Jade French Chef

Court filing is easy insofar as there will be a Local Rule.

For other work, I don't want to scramble to get things done by 2 pm--especially because it means I might get the next round of comments back the same day. I want to chill while things build up throughout the day, then scramble through several things between about 4:30 and 5:20.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2#49564569)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:38 PM
Author: useless fishy chapel

it depends on your office culture and who else is involved

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2#49564624)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:25 PM
Author: Maize Hairraiser Home

Biglaw trannies are also midnight, but 10 pm is far more appreciated because it lets others bill easy hours before bed. Inhouse 2 pm is only west coast with east coast audience but most people specify “COB” and that means get it out by 4 your time so others have the option of reviewing before they leave to pick up their kids or after they put their kids to bed (they won’t actually review or respond for at least a week).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2#49564576)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:31 PM
Author: Jade French Chef

Setting an artificial 4 pm deadline is wild. If someone wants to review it that day, they should say so and specify a time. People get jammed up with meetings, multiple agreements to review, poasts to make, etc.

Absolutely CR re "they won’t actually review or respond for at least a week," btw. There are two times for responses--5 minutes after you send and late next week.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2#49564589)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:39 PM
Author: sickened bearded theater mother

I’m absolutely swamped with poasts to make

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2#49564630)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:42 PM
Author: Maize Hairraiser Home

Yes. The point of the 4 pm deadline is for them to pretend that they are hardworking and for you to pass your own self-imposed shit test. But the logic of this makes sense the more exposure you have to senior execs/SVPs and other managers of managers who are running large organizations. Most of what they do is at least partially performative.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2#49564645)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:25 PM
Author: nudist contagious candlestick maker indirect expression

2pm if a scientist needs to review it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2#49564577)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:39 PM
Author: Effete fluffy state



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2#49564629)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 5:06 PM
Author: 180 misanthropic blood rage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2#49564881)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 10:45 PM
Author: Startled Vivacious Patrolman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2#49565722)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:35 PM
Author: heady dopamine

usually means "within the hour"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2#49564613)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:44 PM
Author: Lascivious address

9 or 10pm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2#49564647)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 3:54 PM
Author: Jade French Chef

Why those times? At 9, I might just be logging back on after the kids go to bed. So, getting the draft out before I go to bed matches the EOD and my schedule better.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2#49564680)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 4:47 PM
Author: cerebral meetinghouse turdskin

It generally means 5 or 6pm in the requestor’s time zone if the person is either important or a client. In other cases it means before they log on the next morning.

Worst thing you can do is send it early enough to get comments back that night, after you’ve rushed to get it out, screwed off online for 90 mins to recuperate, and finally turned to the other work you were supposed to get done yesterday/today/last week.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2#49564828)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 6:09 PM
Author: Jade French Chef

What is requestor is in Europe? Or you're on west coast, requestor is on east coast?

In either of those cases, it should mean before they log on the next morning.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2#49565016)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 8:29 PM
Author: filthy bossy legend

in house it means 5 to 6pm. biglaw it means midnight.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2#49565377)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 10:26 PM
Author: Lemon comical skinny woman range

Cr.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2#49565691)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 11:44 PM
Author: Shimmering dog poop



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2#49565821)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 10:18 PM
Author: Startled Vivacious Patrolman

More precisely in biglaw, end of day means “before you go to bed and before I wake up.” But you better gird your ass if you misjudge that and get a “Where is the draft?” at 4 am.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2#49565681)



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Date: January 6th, 2026 8:13 PM
Author: cerebral meetinghouse turdskin

There’s going to be more punctuation at the end of that 4am email

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2#49567806)



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Date: January 7th, 2026 3:05 PM
Author: Startled Vivacious Patrolman

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2#49569664)



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Date: January 5th, 2026 11:45 PM
Author: Misunderstood Really Tough Guy

At the end of the day, what does it matter?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2#49565824)



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Date: January 6th, 2026 8:15 PM
Author: Aromatic Office

close of business means by 5pm, but end of day is anytime by midnight for biglaw and by tomorrow dawn for mid-tier firms.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2#49567815)



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Date: January 7th, 2026 3:06 PM
Author: Startled Vivacious Patrolman

You got it reversed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2#49569669)



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Date: January 13th, 2026 10:42 PM
Author: Startled Vivacious Patrolman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817621&forum_id=2#49587793)