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Soo CR SUMMER starts this SATURDAY, taking Qs (RSF)

Starting to get really worried they are going to finish ruin...
Aggressive Cerise Becky Sanctuary
  04/21/26
Most bros are summering in Turkmenistan these days
spectacular translucent station
  04/21/26
Have already been to Turkmenistan and had some kooky times.
Aggressive Cerise Becky Sanctuary
  04/21/26
cant wait to jump in the gas crater
passionate very tactful telephone pervert
  04/21/26
Soo CCrater
Aggressive Cerise Becky Sanctuary
  04/21/26
...
dark digit ratio french chef
  04/21/26
...
passionate very tactful telephone pervert
  04/21/26
playing any golf?
vigorous gay wizard
  04/21/26
Nah, after that wrist surgery for the torn ligaments the doc...
Aggressive Cerise Becky Sanctuary
  04/21/26
gay
vigorous gay wizard
  04/21/26
Should get some TTT diving in though.
Aggressive Cerise Becky Sanctuary
  04/21/26
guy I work with is really into diving. he's very dick in as...
vigorous gay wizard
  04/21/26
Not much to see in SoF as I understand it aside from wrecks ...
Aggressive Cerise Becky Sanctuary
  04/21/26
Is Tommy finally going to stop being a dog-hating son of a b...
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  04/21/26
Sadly it does not sound that way, i'm essentially there all ...
Aggressive Cerise Becky Sanctuary
  04/21/26
stop being a jewbag and flat out say you'll cover his nut fo...
vigorous gay wizard
  04/21/26
I don't think he will come under any circumstances.
Aggressive Cerise Becky Sanctuary
  04/21/26
Genuinely one of the biggest tragedies of the modern XO era ...
Canary market bbw
  04/21/26
It would be 870982379802347 content and he would have a grea...
Aggressive Cerise Becky Sanctuary
  04/21/26
Agreed. His refusal is absurd but not surprising, unfortunat...
Canary market bbw
  04/21/26
Maybe w enough lobbying he will reconsider.
Aggressive Cerise Becky Sanctuary
  04/21/26
Inshallah I will complete my mission to visit Andorra, that ...
passionate very tactful telephone pervert
  04/21/26
celebrate your conquest of Andorra with a pop in to St. Trop...
Aggressive Cerise Becky Sanctuary
  04/21/26
Tommy, this will be your chance to be enharemed by a wealthy...
Canary market bbw
  04/21/26
DO IT TT
Aggressive Cerise Becky Sanctuary
  04/21/26
I bet RSF would spring for a dedicated JUICE SERVANT, too
Curious medicated public bath
  04/23/26
There are SEVERAL JUICE spots in the village, would love a T...
Aggressive Cerise Becky Sanctuary
  04/23/26
that's not enough. TT needs a dedicated JUICE BOY for it to ...
Curious medicated public bath
  04/23/26
I can make this happen
Aggressive Cerise Becky Sanctuary
  04/23/26
hows zoomergf? she coming w you for this?
dark digit ratio french chef
  04/21/26
I am ANGRY w her today. I got back ruined from this bender. ...
Aggressive Cerise Becky Sanctuary
  04/21/26
a woman shouldnt COMMAND shit
dark digit ratio french chef
  04/21/26
Yea I mean obv it was more guilting and begging as is their ...
Aggressive Cerise Becky Sanctuary
  04/21/26
This kind of shit is why gash-n-dash is and will always be T...
Canary market bbw
  04/21/26
Tolerating women for the purposes of children is becoming in...
Aggressive Cerise Becky Sanctuary
  04/21/26
this is romantic! as a codependent-mo that would be so ho...
dark digit ratio french chef
  04/21/26
It WAS in the beginning, but with the rose colored glasses o...
Aggressive Cerise Becky Sanctuary
  04/22/26
This would be intolerable behavior for a hookup or something...
Ruddy elite alpha foreskin
  04/21/26
Do you understand women at all?
Canary market bbw
  04/21/26
Pretty well, I'd say
Ruddy elite alpha foreskin
  04/21/26
The mere fact that he really didn't want to visit drove her ...
Canary market bbw
  04/21/26
Like the other poasters who replied, I don't see this as beh...
Ruddy elite alpha foreskin
  04/21/26
Cr he's basically said women have no purpose but babymaking ...
Irate fanboi national security agency
  04/21/26
Yeah personally I don't think RSF is capable of caring about...
Ruddy elite alpha foreskin
  04/21/26
He doesn't even really seem to dispute this. The hardest thi...
Irate fanboi national security agency
  04/21/26
Right? Unreasonable.
Aggressive Cerise Becky Sanctuary
  04/21/26
You've really been through a lot and given the circumstances...
Irate fanboi national security agency
  04/21/26
I agree but last night was my only chance to do that for the...
Aggressive Cerise Becky Sanctuary
  04/21/26
I think you'd be a lot happier if you found a woman with the...
Irate fanboi national security agency
  04/21/26
Link?
Aggressive Cerise Becky Sanctuary
  04/21/26
ironside's TOAS realdoll
dark digit ratio french chef
  04/21/26
Soo CDoll
Aggressive Cerise Becky Sanctuary
  04/21/26
...
Ruddy elite alpha foreskin
  04/21/26
To be fair I wasn’t hungover, just tired.
Aggressive Cerise Becky Sanctuary
  04/21/26
...
Irate fanboi national security agency
  04/21/26
Why does she hate the South of France? Isn't she French?
Irate fanboi national security agency
  04/21/26
She doesn’t hate, she has just decided she doesn&rsquo...
Aggressive Cerise Becky Sanctuary
  04/21/26
What a bitch!
Irate fanboi national security agency
  04/21/26
Exactly!
Aggressive Cerise Becky Sanctuary
  04/21/26
Cottdamn can’t wait to see those massive MAN TITTIES f...
Razzle-dazzle kitchen
  04/21/26
We’d have more conTTTent if TT would get on the team f...
Aggressive Cerise Becky Sanctuary
  04/22/26
3 days to go! Have to go to some TTTSEF charity event tonigh...
Aggressive Cerise Becky Sanctuary
  04/22/26
FUAAAAARK, could not get one of the bulkhead BIZ seats on th...
Aggressive Cerise Becky Sanctuary
  04/23/26


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Date: April 21st, 2026 11:41 AM
Author: Aggressive Cerise Becky Sanctuary

Starting to get really worried they are going to finish ruining St. Trop with all of these new hotels opening, WL S4 and the influx of LA/Miami TTTRA$H.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859068&forum_id=2#49831894)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 11:54 AM
Author: spectacular translucent station

Most bros are summering in Turkmenistan these days

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859068&forum_id=2#49831920)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 12:06 PM
Author: Aggressive Cerise Becky Sanctuary

Have already been to Turkmenistan and had some kooky times.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859068&forum_id=2#49831950)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 1:49 PM
Author: passionate very tactful telephone pervert

cant wait to jump in the gas crater

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859068&forum_id=2#49832107)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 1:57 PM
Author: Aggressive Cerise Becky Sanctuary

Soo CCrater

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859068&forum_id=2#49832113)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 2:10 PM
Author: dark digit ratio french chef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859068&forum_id=2#49832139)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 2:19 PM
Author: passionate very tactful telephone pervert



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859068&forum_id=2#49832163)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 11:55 AM
Author: vigorous gay wizard

playing any golf?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859068&forum_id=2#49831922)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 12:06 PM
Author: Aggressive Cerise Becky Sanctuary

Nah, after that wrist surgery for the torn ligaments the doc essentially told me to pick my battles and if I want to lift, ski and play ice hockey maybe we just let boxing, tennis and golf go. I'll stick w his advice for now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859068&forum_id=2#49831952)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 12:16 PM
Author: vigorous gay wizard

gay

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859068&forum_id=2#49831973)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 12:18 PM
Author: Aggressive Cerise Becky Sanctuary

Should get some TTT diving in though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859068&forum_id=2#49831976)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 12:25 PM
Author: vigorous gay wizard

guy I work with is really into diving. he's very dick in asshole gay.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859068&forum_id=2#49831984)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 12:32 PM
Author: Aggressive Cerise Becky Sanctuary

Not much to see in SoF as I understand it aside from wrecks which aren't my fav.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859068&forum_id=2#49832003)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 12:09 PM
Author: Canary market bbw

Is Tommy finally going to stop being a dog-hating son of a bastard bitch this year and go romp around the Trope?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859068&forum_id=2#49831961)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 12:11 PM
Author: Aggressive Cerise Becky Sanctuary

Sadly it does not sound that way, i'm essentially there all summer and the invite has been extended...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859068&forum_id=2#49831967)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 12:18 PM
Author: vigorous gay wizard

stop being a jewbag and flat out say you'll cover his nut for a week or so. we need the content.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859068&forum_id=2#49831975)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 12:19 PM
Author: Aggressive Cerise Becky Sanctuary

I don't think he will come under any circumstances.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859068&forum_id=2#49831977)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 12:46 PM
Author: Canary market bbw

Genuinely one of the biggest tragedies of the modern XO era

Fucking Tommy, stop being a fucking bastard bitch and make this happen

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859068&forum_id=2#49832016)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 12:53 PM
Author: Aggressive Cerise Becky Sanctuary

It would be 870982379802347 content and he would have a great time and possibly get laid. I don't know why he won't do it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859068&forum_id=2#49832022)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 1:03 PM
Author: Canary market bbw

Agreed. His refusal is absurd but not surprising, unfortunately

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859068&forum_id=2#49832038)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 1:05 PM
Author: Aggressive Cerise Becky Sanctuary

Maybe w enough lobbying he will reconsider.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859068&forum_id=2#49832045)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 2:20 PM
Author: passionate very tactful telephone pervert

Inshallah I will complete my mission to visit Andorra, that will prob be in June then I shall NEVER return to the BIRDSHIT CONTINENT again! CONTINENT OF DARKNESS AND EVIL PRAISE BE TO ALLAH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859068&forum_id=2#49832167)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 2:58 PM
Author: Aggressive Cerise Becky Sanctuary

celebrate your conquest of Andorra with a pop in to St. Trop.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859068&forum_id=2#49832259)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 3:18 PM
Author: Canary market bbw

Tommy, this will be your chance to be enharemed by a wealthy man who can yacht you around Mediterranean and feed you and your lizard only the choicest and plumpest of fruits

Fucking go and stop being a bitch. What could be a more fitting way to end your time in the white world

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859068&forum_id=2#49832302)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 4:37 PM
Author: Aggressive Cerise Becky Sanctuary

DO IT TT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859068&forum_id=2#49832517)



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Date: April 23rd, 2026 3:08 PM
Author: Curious medicated public bath

I bet RSF would spring for a dedicated JUICE SERVANT, too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859068&forum_id=2#49837518)



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Date: April 23rd, 2026 3:43 PM
Author: Aggressive Cerise Becky Sanctuary

There are SEVERAL JUICE spots in the village, would love a TT review of each.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859068&forum_id=2#49837658)



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Date: April 23rd, 2026 3:44 PM
Author: Curious medicated public bath

that's not enough. TT needs a dedicated JUICE BOY for it to be worthwhile for him

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859068&forum_id=2#49837667)



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Date: April 23rd, 2026 3:46 PM
Author: Aggressive Cerise Becky Sanctuary

I can make this happen

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859068&forum_id=2#49837672)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 2:29 PM
Author: dark digit ratio french chef

hows zoomergf? she coming w you for this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859068&forum_id=2#49832189)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 2:58 PM
Author: Aggressive Cerise Becky Sanctuary

I am ANGRY w her today. I got back ruined from this bender. She flew into NY Mon AM so she'd be here when I got back and COMMANDED me to come to her place last night and as expected got shit sleep and now i'm even MOAR tired. She is against the SoF but will come for part of it and Corsica.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859068&forum_id=2#49832256)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 3:03 PM
Author: dark digit ratio french chef

a woman shouldnt COMMAND shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859068&forum_id=2#49832267)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 3:05 PM
Author: Aggressive Cerise Becky Sanctuary

Yea I mean obv it was more guilting and begging as is their style

https://postimg.cc/gallery/zKfQyGp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859068&forum_id=2#49832274)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 3:19 PM
Author: Canary market bbw

This kind of shit is why gash-n-dash is and will always be TCR

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859068&forum_id=2#49832306)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 3:24 PM
Author: Aggressive Cerise Becky Sanctuary

Tolerating women for the purposes of children is becoming increasingly difficult. Social media has ruined the world.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859068&forum_id=2#49832320)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 3:26 PM
Author: dark digit ratio french chef

this is romantic!

as a codependent-mo that would be so hot to me

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859068&forum_id=2#49832331)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 1:36 PM
Author: Aggressive Cerise Becky Sanctuary

It WAS in the beginning, but with the rose colored glasses off, I have serious concerns about her long term viability.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859068&forum_id=2#49834356)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 3:27 PM
Author: Ruddy elite alpha foreskin

This would be intolerable behavior for a hookup or something but it seems pretty reasonable to want to see your boyfriend really bad when he returns to town. And she was being super sweet about it and hyping you up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859068&forum_id=2#49832333)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 3:32 PM
Author: Canary market bbw

Do you understand women at all?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859068&forum_id=2#49832344)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 3:36 PM
Author: Ruddy elite alpha foreskin

Pretty well, I'd say

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859068&forum_id=2#49832358)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 3:48 PM
Author: Canary market bbw

The mere fact that he really didn't want to visit drove her need to overcome the objection and to mold him

If she failed, it would be a grievous wound and, perhaps, even proof he doesn't love her

If she succeeds, it diminishes his stature with her and only reinforces that this is what love is (though she'll still need to constantly seek validation and proof)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859068&forum_id=2#49832393)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 3:53 PM
Author: Ruddy elite alpha foreskin

Like the other poasters who replied, I don't see this as behavior that's harmful to reinforce. If she were being this persistent about something else, yes, of course that's inappropriate. But it's literally about seeing him.

I understand his perspective too. His tiredness outweighed his desire to see her. And that could have been the case even if he loves her. But based on everything else he's said, I wonder if he DOES love her. Even just ITT, he said "Tolerating women for the purposes of children is becoming increasingly difficult" – kind of a red flag.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859068&forum_id=2#49832404)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 3:56 PM
Author: Irate fanboi national security agency

Cr he's basically said women have no purpose but babymaking and he's totally detached from her. Not seeming to give a shit can be attractive to a partner in the short term but over time if you seem like you never give a shit she will sour. Ultimately he did give in because part of his brain knows that he has to put up with some level of discomfort to maintain the relationship. The question is if he's too jaded in the long run to give a shit about about anyone. But for now, he's done the bare minimum to show he cares.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859068&forum_id=2#49832414)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 3:58 PM
Author: Ruddy elite alpha foreskin

Yeah personally I don't think RSF is capable of caring about anyone but himself

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859068&forum_id=2#49832422)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 4:03 PM
Author: Irate fanboi national security agency

He doesn't even really seem to dispute this. The hardest thing he did all year and probably in the last 10-15 was get in an Uber and go to his girlfriend's house when he was hung over and didn't feel like it. That's the most challenging thing he's been through in a long time. And it's her fault!

His general life outlook is that the world hasn't done enough to cater to him. Women have bare minimum expectations of him, and they're wrong. Hotels won't evict influencers who make too much noise. Waiters demand too much in tips for plate carrying. Prole roaches in coach use his private first class bathroom which this pretentious douche will only ever refer to as "FLav" which he got from poasting on FlyerTalk.

Given how difficult his life is and how little the hotel, aviation, and hospitality industries will do for him for a modest fee it's really a wonder why his psychotic gf would make him spend time with her when he didn't feel like it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859068&forum_id=2#49832434)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 4:05 PM
Author: Aggressive Cerise Becky Sanctuary

Right? Unreasonable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859068&forum_id=2#49832438)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 4:06 PM
Author: Irate fanboi national security agency

You've really been through a lot and given the circumstances I think it's time you take a load of and fully relax.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859068&forum_id=2#49832439)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 4:09 PM
Author: Aggressive Cerise Becky Sanctuary

I agree but last night was my only chance to do that for the next while sadly. Would have been nice if she’d been understanding and allowed me one good night of sleep.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859068&forum_id=2#49832446)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 4:11 PM
Author: Irate fanboi national security agency

I think you'd be a lot happier if you found a woman with the personality of a house plant who showed very little emotion or interest in anything.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859068&forum_id=2#49832451)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 4:14 PM
Author: Aggressive Cerise Becky Sanctuary

Link?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859068&forum_id=2#49832454)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 4:36 PM
Author: dark digit ratio french chef

ironside's TOAS realdoll

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859068&forum_id=2#49832511)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 5:28 PM
Author: Aggressive Cerise Becky Sanctuary

Soo CDoll

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859068&forum_id=2#49832633)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 4:45 PM
Author: Ruddy elite alpha foreskin



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859068&forum_id=2#49832535)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 4:46 PM
Author: Aggressive Cerise Becky Sanctuary

To be fair I wasn’t hungover, just tired.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859068&forum_id=2#49832541)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 3:32 PM
Author: Irate fanboi national security agency



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859068&forum_id=2#49832345)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 3:33 PM
Author: Irate fanboi national security agency

Why does she hate the South of France? Isn't she French?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859068&forum_id=2#49832348)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 4:04 PM
Author: Aggressive Cerise Becky Sanctuary

She doesn’t hate, she has just decided she doesn’t want to be there all summer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859068&forum_id=2#49832436)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 4:05 PM
Author: Irate fanboi national security agency

What a bitch!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859068&forum_id=2#49832437)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 4:21 PM
Author: Aggressive Cerise Becky Sanctuary

Exactly!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859068&forum_id=2#49832475)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 3:36 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle kitchen

Cottdamn can’t wait to see those massive MAN TITTIES flopping around the south of France.

JK hope you have a good time and post tons of stories and pics.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859068&forum_id=2#49832357)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 12:59 PM
Author: Aggressive Cerise Becky Sanctuary

We’d have more conTTTent if TT would get on the team for the big win!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859068&forum_id=2#49834288)



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Date: April 22nd, 2026 3:12 PM
Author: Aggressive Cerise Becky Sanctuary

3 days to go! Have to go to some TTTSEF charity event tonight.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859068&forum_id=2#49834654)



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Date: April 23rd, 2026 3:04 PM
Author: Aggressive Cerise Becky Sanctuary

FUAAAAARK, could not get one of the bulkhead BIZ seats on the NYC-SIN 19h flight, they have bigger footwells and are better for tallmos. Will prob be some fucking 5ft tall NOWAG who doesn't need the space.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859068&forum_id=2#49837499)