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Date: February 26th, 2007 4:24 PM Author: light angry black woman incel Just got call on my cell-->accepted at a TTT post bac program. Still waiting to hear from UMD, UVA, and Goucher. Being back in Philly area for a yr would suck a fat one, but I'm considering just going to this TTT and kicking ass. I can get in-state still if I finagle this properly...
I'd have to kick ass this summer & apply for assurance programs with Drexel Hahnemann and Temple in the Fall. ---------------------------------------------------
"Post-baccalaureate early assurance programs are available with Drexel University College of Medicine and Temple University School of Medicine. Each has particular standards that need to be maintained, with all prerequisite science classes to be taken at WCU. If you have a strong undergraduate academic record (cumulative GPA over 3.00) with no prior MCAT scores, you can contact the Pre-Medical Office for a supplemental application."
http://www.wcupa.edu/_INFORMATION/OFFICIAL.DOCUMENTS/FACT.SHEETS/premd.htm |
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Date: February 26th, 2007 4:27 PM Author: Coral friendly grandma what's your science background? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=586538&forum_id=2#7672661) |
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Date: February 26th, 2007 4:30 PM Author: histrionic feces newt lol none. He saw scrubs and now wants to be an ER doc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=586538&forum_id=2#7672689) |
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Date: February 26th, 2007 4:34 PM Author: light angry black woman incel very strong in math (econ major @ an HYP UG; i didn't take calc in college bc i had 2 yrs in HS. i took multivar, lin algebra, diff eqs, partial dif eqs, statistics, and econometrics on the quantitative end of things). took gen chem & orgo @ HYP but got B's (I was Maitland Jones-pwned). have since taken a few science classes but need to take/retake these classes in sequence and get A's to go to a decent med school. i also took Mol Bio & Microbio.
I need to retake everything NO MATTER WHAT bc all the AMCAS required classes are from my UG school, where I graduated in 2002. The classes must be taken within the past 5 yrs... so it wouldnt matter *so* much if i had gotten A's in the classes; I would have to be taking them again.
I have taken anatomy/physiology x2 sem, pathophysiology, pharmacology since leaving college. (A's in all).
GRE was 1550 (800 quant) and SAT I was 1590 (790 M). AP 5's in all the sciences and in Calc BC-->long time ago ('98)
Basically I'm pissed I wasted yrs 21-26 of my life in Law. I excelled in the sciences but fucked myself over my first 2 yrs of college by fucking around.
As far as volunteering and hospital jobs, I will be working on that as soon as I figure out where I'm going to be doing the postbac classes (PA, MD, or VA) |
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Date: February 26th, 2007 4:37 PM Author: Coral friendly grandma weren't you going to start a phd at UVA? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=586538&forum_id=2#7672728) |
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Date: February 26th, 2007 4:38 PM Author: light angry black woman incel epidemiology, si senor. the math is simple and i understand the science; however there is almost ZERO chance i am going to go now.
reason: i don't want to sit in a suit *talking* about clinical trials and not really practicing any useful skills (medicine).
it would just end up being the same as Law is for me... boring, unrewarding, and a cake-eating contest to move up the ladder in BigPharma |
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Date: February 26th, 2007 7:19 PM Author: Flatulent lay genital piercing This guy is full of shit. In one thread he claimed he took 5 science classes. In a different thread, it was 6.
http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=579416&mc=16&forum_id=2 |
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Date: February 26th, 2007 7:25 PM Author: light angry black woman incel it depends. i took a class on Medical Ethics in addition.
i dont count that as a science class, thus the discrepancy.
i'm not going to go back and read old threads, but the difference would concern whether i was discussing SCIENCE classes that would be used in calculating med school GPA or would help a person doing a postbac, versus other classes needed to apply to other graduate programs (in this case, medical ethics)
HTH |
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Date: February 26th, 2007 7:29 PM Author: Flatulent lay genital piercing My mama didn't raise no fool.
HTH |
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Date: February 26th, 2007 7:32 PM Author: light angry black woman incel ok then (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=586538&forum_id=2#7673845) |
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Date: February 26th, 2007 4:40 PM Author: underhanded crackhouse stock car should've gone into finance (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=586538&forum_id=2#7672751) |
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Date: February 26th, 2007 4:41 PM Author: Coral friendly grandma titcr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=586538&forum_id=2#7672756) |
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Date: February 26th, 2007 4:43 PM Author: light angry black woman incel i should've at least spent 2-3 yrs when i was 21 and a new college grad...
going straight to L school was a big mistake.
i have to play with the deck in my hands now. you may pwn me in terms of money, but i feel strongly that medicine would be more rewarding for me at this point in my life. had i gone into finance at age 21, perhaps things would be much different. i grant that. |
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Date: February 26th, 2007 4:45 PM Author: Coral friendly grandma lol dood i sincerely hope i dont pwn you in terms of money, at least not right now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=586538&forum_id=2#7672789) |
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Date: February 26th, 2007 4:48 PM Author: light angry black woman incel you don't pwn me in terms of money NOW. i mean eventually, i wish you luck and probably you will pwn me financially (whatever that means). but why wouldn't i wish you well? of course, i hope to God you don't think you're going to get rich in Law. if you picked law for money, drop out ASAP.
regardless of the lost possibility of Finance, prestige>>money by itself. at least for me. and being happy with your work is important too. like i said, if i started in finance at 21 and grew accustomed to the paychecks, i'd probably be a money whore. but i'd probably also never live a "real life", just like i dont live a real life now. 80% of my waking hours i am within 5 feet of a computer and even at night the blackberry is just feet away. type type type... blah. |
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Date: February 26th, 2007 4:54 PM Author: mint alpha pit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=586538&forum_id=2#7672846) |
Date: February 26th, 2007 4:42 PM Author: wonderful navy hunting ground house nice. do you know of any other programs that guarantee a spot in a medical school? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=586538&forum_id=2#7672771) |
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Date: February 26th, 2007 4:48 PM Author: light angry black woman incel goucher has a 100% acceptance rate, but it's hard to get in.
usually, for post bac programs, acceptance is only guaranteed *after* a semester or two. so it's misleading. it's kind of like i was guaranteed BigLaw after 2 semesters of law school bc that's all firms see when they interview 2L fall.
to answer your question, i don't know of ANY that outright guarantee you the spot. it's not like HS where they'll just look at SAT, etc., and decide to admit you. and even those programs have strict cutoffs for UG GPA (you usually have to keep ~3.5 or you lose your guarantee. also they usually require a 27 MCAT which would be easy for you and me but not necessarily to people that qualify based upon 750 verbal and 650 math).
btw, the reason i'm not as enthusiastic about UVA would be, that is the only option i can't get in-state. i can get UMD in-state for certain reasons (though i've never lived there) and i can probably finagle in-state in PA as well, bc of numerous family there, my HS was in Philly area, etc etc. i think i can make it work.
UVA looks like a gunner-ish program (based on the student profiles shown on the website) and it's just as far from my GF (maybe further) than Philly is. UMD and Goucher are very close but dont offer the same guarantees. |
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Date: February 26th, 2007 4:56 PM Author: wonderful navy hunting ground house what programs are supposed to be the best?> (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=586538&forum_id=2#7672856) |
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Date: February 26th, 2007 7:29 PM Author: light angry black woman incel Goucher, Columbia, Haverford/Bryn Mawr, and a few others.
In general people doing postbac work have told me to avoid formal postbac programs bc you get sucked into a gunner mentality and deal with the postbac committee. These programs typically cost more, as well. If you just take the classes yourself and do well, there are usually no problems getting into med school. And if you don't do well, the postbac committee isn't going to write you a LOR anyway (to protect their accept %; if they dont write a LOR you don't count in their #accepted/#recommended ratio).
i have a feeling that postbacs attract people who are actually unfamiliar with sciences/math and who want the assurances that they're taking the right classes and studying the right way. people who are good at math/science are probably better off avoiding a highly-structured program with lots of administrator contact. at least in my case, i think it would be very annoying. |
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Date: February 26th, 2007 4:55 PM Author: mint alpha pit your big mistake was going to a non-T14 law school; what possible excuse for this could you have? what kind of 1550gre/1590sat doesn't manage a T14-level LSAT (>168)? and how the fuck did you not manage above a 3.3-3.4 (which, given the boost for HYP in LS admissions, is enough) as an econ major, even if you fucked up for 4 semesters (which at HYP=3.0 average)? and if we humor you and pretend that you did have either a shit gpa/lsat, how could you not have known that going to a TTT law school is career suicide? how on earth could a high scoring quant HYP grad lack the common sense to pursue a different career?
it's obvious that you're total bullshit. you're nothing but a striving poser desperate to fit in with people more successful and intelligent than yourself, as your fervor over the lame T14 girls contest testifies. please, for the love of God, take your pathetic mediocrity elsewhere. |
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Date: February 26th, 2007 7:40 PM Author: light angry black woman incel an avg LSAT at an HYP UG is 162-163. i know bc the LSAT score report you receive in the mail shows your performance relative to your school's takers from the preceding few yrs (i think 3 yrs). at 168 i was above the mean (i agree with you though, i'd have suspected that the mean LSAT would be closer to 168--i would assume that most of the 162 people end up working and going back for an MBA later)
and for me, no, fucking up meant a 2.6 through 4 semesters. among other notable things, i got a "D", numerous C's, a lot of B's, and only 2 A's (my freshman seminar and an anthro class in fall of soph yr).
when i started to do better, it was uneven at first. it's not like i went from 2.6 avg to suddenly getting all A's. fall of sr yr my GPA was under 3 when i applied to law school.
my mistake was not going to t14? that is not my complaint. i went to fordham. i did very very well. i got a good job. i'm just not happy with Law as a profession. my mistake was not to go to post bac when i was fresh out of college.
that said, i now fixing that. i can't go back and replay past decisions. nor do i want to. i'm ok with how i've spent the last 5 yrs; at the same time it's not how i want to spend the rest of my time here on the earth. |
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Date: February 26th, 2007 7:44 PM Author: charismatic nibblets How is it that you come across as a decent guy in this thread--yet you're responsible for some of the largest debacles on this board?
Anyway, I was in the same boat . . . had a 2.X at HYP, and had to work feverishly to make it up over three years. I don't think that you made a mistake in not post-baccing immediately (who wants to go right back to college after working day and night to make up for a 2.X?) |
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Date: February 26th, 2007 7:50 PM Author: Flatulent lay genital piercing How the hell does one get a 2.X at HYP? Unless your semesters were crammed with hard science classes, the only way to accomplish this is to not show up for exams. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=586538&forum_id=2#7673930) |
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Date: February 26th, 2007 7:54 PM Author: charismatic nibblets For me, that is in fact what happened. Aside from this, some of the science classes were graded on a pretty vicious curve. In my worst semesters, I loaded my schedule with pure science classes. Predictably, I did well in the ones where I turned everything on time, did OK in the classes where I didn't turn anything but showed up to the exam, and did extremely poorly in the (one) where I didn't show up to the exam.
When you don't care too much about grades, you can actually learn quite a bit of material while practically failing the class. |
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Date: February 26th, 2007 8:00 PM Author: light angry black woman incel "When you don't care too much about grades, you can actually learn quite a bit of material while practically failing the class." ---------------------------
Yup, that's me the first several semesters. I started off taking too many hard science classes and i started off in multivar-->linear algebra, when in reality i should've retaken calc II bc although i could integrate well enough to get a 5 on the AP test, i spent weeks relearning all thist shit on my own and as a result turned in problem sets late, etc.
i lacked motivation as well... i never slept through exams, but i also never bothered to stay up all night studying or blow off having fun with friends to force myself to study. |
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Date: February 26th, 2007 8:05 PM Author: charismatic nibblets That sounds eerily familiar to me. My problem was that I didn't really follow the "system"--insofar as one should take univariate calculus --> multivariate --> diffeqs/linear algebra, instead of skipping around.
I have paid the price ten-fold since, but I don't have any regrets. More and more, I realize that it doesn't really change your long-term prospects--it just slows you down a bit. |
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Date: February 26th, 2007 8:30 PM Author: light angry black woman incel we could've done things much more efficiently and avoided the perception that we weren't good students. people want "template" students, they don't want people who really were exploring or figuring out their life. i'll admit, i was lost for my first 2 yrs of college. i was probably bottom 20% of my class (my HYP doesnt do class rank) yet i probably learned more about myself in those 2 yrs that i'd ever known. but i was smacked around academically in the process. this despite the fact that i learned a ton of material and would've been able to get A's if i had my life together and got better advice. i came from a middle class background and i'm very unconventional, so i had those 2 things going against me.
one thing i did learn from that is, people would MUCH rather take a chance on an imperfect person who worked hard and learned (and has potential) than someone who truly is blase` and unremarkable. it took a while to learn that, but that lesson was pretty key. things dont go perfectly in life--what can i say? |
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Date: February 26th, 2007 9:01 PM Author: charismatic nibblets This fully captures my experience at college. Sometimes I wonder how people develop if they've never taken a hit before in college. Doing well academically is always convenient, but surely everyone must take some time to reflect on who they are, what their place is in the world, and what they want to do.
This is why I think that I got much fuller college experience than I might have otherwise, despite my poor performance. In retrospect, I'm not sure whether I was happier doing poorly at college (with no self-imposed objectives, but a great deal of freedom) or doing well in law school (with a lot of self-imposed objectives, but virtually no freedom). |
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Date: February 26th, 2007 9:20 PM Author: light angry black woman incel There's a lot of stuff I didn't mention above bc I don't want to seem like I'm blaming my performance on X, Y, or Z. But "figuring yourself out" can mean many things so it really doesn't matter what that entailed for me. The students I met who were B or C students (at least at the HYP level) were different from the A students not in terms of IQ or interest level or ability, but in terms of focus, motivation, and knowing how to "play the games" in terms of setting up a schedule and making sure they had the right amt of easy vs hard classes, didn't have friday classes if they were going to party, etc.
I take back what I said about going to post bac directly after college. I read your post and think you're right--I still wouldn't have been ready at 21, because I obviously didn't understand what I wanted to do the rest of my life (or at least until age 75). This is evidenced by the fact that I didn't prep for the LSAT in a serious way, I went to law school without examining what it's really like to be in biglaw, and while in law school became focused on grades grades grades rather than if I really thought law would be a good thing to do for 50yrs.
i plan to work until 75 in one way or another. i could use law degree, with med degree, to do many things if there comes a time in middle age when i dont want to practice medicine anymore. but this thread isn't about that--it's about the fact that if people want to go to med school, there are TTT's out there that will accept you in and if you get good grades, you'll be in med school in 2 yrs. Even if a lawyer had a 4.0 in college, they'd have to retake ALL science classes and take the MCAT again, because the grades and scores are too old after 5 yrs or 3 yrs, respectively. |
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Date: February 26th, 2007 7:57 PM Author: light angry black woman incel i played a varsity sport and partied a lot. i was pretty stupid. there are more reasons, but really i don't seek to make excuses. BTW, i did take hard classes--throughout. i'm not blaming the hard classes though--the problem was me. because once i "got right" and started being somewhat responsible, my grades were good in hard classes. not all A's but B+, A-, A's instead of Bs and Cs.
btw, grade inflation is VASTLY overstated. and in case you missed it, the 04 election featured 2 guys who were *C* students at yale. i know a lot of people who got high GPAs who are worthless but others who got 2.X's who are now in good careers or in med school, etc.
i did horribly in college. i get it. no excuses, but a lot of growing up and learning. and ya, i act like a jerk on xoxo as a release from how i am IRL... imagine that. |
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Date: February 26th, 2007 8:03 PM Author: light angry black woman incel are you in a post bac? or retaking the classes?
do you agree with my assessment from talking to post bacc people--namely, that formal programs don't help that much. just taking the classes & getting A's is better |
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Date: February 26th, 2007 8:10 PM Author: charismatic nibblets I toyed with the idea of making a run for medical school, but I decided that I really didn't have much of an interest in medical research (although I still think that it'd be great to be one of those rural doctors that travels around with a wrinkled old leather bag and a stethoscope). Even though my background is heavily biased towards the hard sciences, I've grown to accept that I'm actually more interested in the law and humanities, and would be far more adept in this field then as a doctor.
As for post-bacs--I don't know much about them, but if there's a way to guarantee acceptance to a linked medical school, I'd imagine that would be the optimal route. Barring that, though, I'd just take the classes at a reputable state school and get the better grades. This is what I would do if I were a pre-law trying to raise my GPA, and I can't see that it's that much different for pre-med qualifications. |
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Date: February 27th, 2007 2:30 PM Author: light angry black woman incel Subject: bump for today's crowd bump for today's crowd (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=586538&forum_id=2#7678558) |