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Date: March 13th, 2007 12:34 PM Author: drunken jade telephone I’m disappointed with the reaction to my letter to the YLS faculty. I’ll admit I didn’t put much effort into it, but I think it communicated my point to the people who needed to understand. Heide Iravani has cost this community greatly through the T14 contest and more prominently, Reputation Defender and the bad publicity associated with it. It may have been excessively spiteful, but I felt that pressure needed to be applied in such a way that it became unthinkable to question XO sovereignty. I regret that GTO felt compelled to resign but I believe this was more the result of an accumulation of events than me crossing some (very arbitrary) boundary line.
As for who received the email, I emailed the YLS faculty with a CC to Heide. I did not spam any law firms, contrary to what some are saying. Solid idea, though.
Sincerely, pauliewalnuts
One question for everyone else- How come she hasn’t killed herself? If anyone could help push her over the edge I’d be grateful.
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Date: March 13th, 2007 12:42 PM Author: Crusty Sandwich Idiot Further evidence that this whole fiasco was perpetuated by one giant douchebag. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7747562) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 12:46 PM Author: Sable vibrant ape titcp (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7747586) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 1:03 PM Author: Fragrant juggernaut that is not the real paulie, which is me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7747668) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 1:03 PM Author: rusted heaven damage control. stop lying. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7747672) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 1:05 PM Author: Fragrant juggernaut Subject: wrong that isnt me.
this douche can't log in as any of my other monikers...
hey dude, if you're really pauliewalnutz, what was the password for the pauliewalnuts moniker (before i turned it over to GTO)? |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 1:08 PM Author: rusted heaven You can't prove that you're not behind the emails this way. Man up and admit you did it, d00d. First step to recovery. hth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7747693) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 1:09 PM Author: vermilion chest-beating associate pozpig You can't prove you're not behind the emails either. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7747700) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 1:11 PM Author: rusted heaven that's irrelevant. lonely virgin is paulie walnuts, and now he's backpedaling because -- yet again -- a douchey idea backfired. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7747709) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 1:13 PM Author: Fragrant juggernaut Hi Ross Chanin of Reputation Defender!!!
are you pissed that your service doesnt work in reality? (or even in theory, realy)??
well, you cant pin this on me. this act was most likely done by a non-xoxo regular. maybe by someone who came to the site only AFTER reading about its reputation, etc, and seeing what a dbag your company is.
did you not think that articles like that would draw more people to xoxo and possibly end up with your clients names even more widely known? or didnt that occur to you dumb fuckers??
TYIA for answering |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 1:20 PM Author: laughsome cumskin piazza you know i wouldnt be surprised if this is the work of RD in a effort to smear XOXOHTH even more.
i mean this was a really stupid act and i have not seen the op alot. 'lonelyvirgin' is not a frequent poster. he might either be a new poster who came after the WaPo fiasco or is RD |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 1:34 PM Author: Fragrant juggernaut (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7747807) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 1:12 PM Author: Fragrant juggernaut Subject: its not even my style... what a pathetic moniker.
and i usually dont edit or use capital letters.... i post stream-of-conscience, not stopping to make corrections or punctuate propertly |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 1:12 PM Author: rusted heaven OK. douche & coward. gotcha. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7747716) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 1:06 PM Author: Sable vibrant ape i believe PW when he says that the OP is not him; i actually remember him saying a few days ago he felt bad about the damage done to HI and wanted to focus solely on RD. also, it is very easy for the tool behind the emails to pin the blame on somebody else; further, why the hell would PW just come out and say he did it when even the most jaded and perverse people here are ready to lynch the person who was behind the emails? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7747686) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 1:09 PM Author: Fragrant juggernaut duh. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7747699) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 12:44 PM Author: Floppy Station Filthpig what an idiot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7747568) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 12:45 PM Author: vermilion chest-beating associate pozpig I hate you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7747580) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 12:46 PM Author: Sable vibrant ape Subject: Please kill self Date: March 13th, 2007 12:34 PM Author: lonelyvirgin
I’m disappointed with the reaction to my letter to the YLS faculty. I’ll admit I didn’t put much effort into it, but I think it communicated my point to the people who needed to understand. Heide Iravani has cost this community greatly through the T14 contest and more prominently, Reputation Defender and the bad publicity associated with it. It may have been excessively spiteful, but I felt that pressure needed to be applied in such a way that it became unthinkable to question XO sovereignty. I regret that GTO felt compelled to resign but I believe this was more the result of an accumulation of events than me crossing some (very arbitrary) boundary line.
As for who received the email, I emailed the YLS faculty with a CC to Heide. I did not spam any law firms, contrary to what some are saying. Solid idea, though.
Sincerely,
pauliewalnuts
One question for everyone else- How come she hasn’t killed herself? If anyone could help push her over the edge I’d be grateful.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7747529) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 12:48 PM Author: sepia fighting indian lodge dingle berry http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=594271&mc=1&forum_id=2 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7747597) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 12:51 PM Author: effete irradiated masturbator crackhouse Even my TTT blood and limited cognitive abilities can recognize what a horrible idea this was.
You were picked on as a child, no? |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 1:01 PM Author: Fragrant juggernaut (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7747660) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 1:04 PM Author: Sable vibrant ape hmmm yeah i was gonna say; the guy who did this could easily attempt to pin the blame on someone else. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7747676) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 1:15 PM Author: Fragrant juggernaut Subject: im talking to Rach right now... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7747725) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 1:10 PM Author: laughsome cumskin piazza please killself (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7747706) |
Date: March 13th, 2007 12:56 PM Author: rusted heaven this guy needs professional help. serious issues. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7747632) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 12:57 PM Author: vermilion chest-beating associate pozpig Yeah, like the help of an assassin and a Bushmaster. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7747642) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 12:58 PM Author: rusted heaven Bushmaster was my pledge name. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7747648) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 12:58 PM Author: vermilion chest-beating associate pozpig Link? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7747650) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 1:00 PM Author: rusted heaven j/k (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7747653) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 1:01 PM Author: multi-colored maroon theater stage you're seriously one of hte biggest idiots to ever grace this board. hopefully you'll be hit by a car before you go out and start raping little girls (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7747659) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 1:02 PM Author: Fragrant juggernaut dood, that's not me.
OP: Log in as "hitlerhitlerhilter" or "Prof Brian Leiter" and prove that you are actually paulieawlnuts.
TYIA douchebag |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 1:04 PM Author: rusted heaven You're lying for damage control. This didn't turn out how you expected, did it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7747675) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 1:07 PM Author: Fragrant juggernaut Subject: its just not me i said this a few times before--i didnt do it; i woudlnt do it.
i didnt do it to cravath3L and i wouldnt do it now.
moreover, my t14 contest had 25 girls and i had no particular interest in HI. and i have no idea who BH was (it was before my time)
srsly. |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 1:10 PM Author: rusted heaven whatever, dude. man up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7747707) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 1:12 PM Author: Crusty Sandwich Idiot It's definitely possible that lonelyvirgin is scared shitless that he's going to be busted for this and is just trying to obfuscate things. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7747713) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 6:32 PM Author: bronze giraffe therapy BUSTED? What the fuck could he be busted for? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7749016) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 1:07 PM Author: Vigorous Ticket Booth Couldn't anyone log in under their name or a new name and then change their username to one of these? Or can there not be doubles? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7747690) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 1:08 PM Author: Sienna digit ratio whorehouse no doubles (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7747695) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 1:03 PM Author: Canary frisky electric furnace please go back on your meds. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7747670) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 1:04 PM Author: Sienna digit ratio whorehouse :( (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7747678) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 1:37 PM Author: Fragrant juggernaut Subject: c00kie.... how is the university of Houston?? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7747816) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 4:15 PM Author: crimson motley internal respiration Interesting. If someone is a friend of one of the owners (oh, excuse me, the sole owner), he gets access to IP information (even though it's not kept), and gets to publish identifying information about other posters, and gets to ask to have damaging threads removed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7748342) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 6:23 PM Author: Fragrant juggernaut HTFH (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7748971) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 6:25 PM Author: rusted heaven do you even know for sure that the letter was in fact sent to the yls faculty? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7748980) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 6:33 PM Author: Fragrant juggernaut yes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7749019) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 6:46 PM Author: excitant background story Date: March 13th, 2007 1:37 PM Author: MrMiyagi Subject: c00kie.... how is the university of ---??
ha ha motherfucker. nice try impersonating me... too bad i'm over 1000 miles away....
dumb ass
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7747816) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 4:51 PM Author: Emerald Voyeur Bets on whether Lonelyvirgin is some guy at Rep Defender?
"To win big you've got to be willing to get your hands a little dirty."
It's win/win for Rep D. They get their shot at taking XOXO down and possibly another shot at WaPo/Tv. I mean let's face it, there was no way they were going to get any more publicity out of this site.
Blood out of dried up turnip, and shit.
Oh yeah: Edit: I don't think the original email was intended by its author to be taken [very] seriously. Poor grammar, punctuation, and logical flow ensured that it'd be hucked into the "what and asshole/moron" file. It was written by an actual idiot "pretending" to be an idiot, i.e. the level of intelligence they associate to the average xo poster. |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 5:53 PM Author: Fragrant juggernaut "It was written by an actual idiot "pretending" to be an idiot, i.e. the level of intelligence they associate to the average xo poster." -----------------------------
problem for Reputation Defender is, average xoxo poster is more intelligent than average Reputation Defender employee. |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 6:19 PM Author: Floppy Station Filthpig Date: February 26th, 2007 5:38 PM Author: pauliewalnuts
tytyty
i never edit out mistakes or fix punctuation and its mostly stream of consciousness shit. glad you like. theres more where that came from doodr
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=586558&forum_id=2#7673150 |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 6:23 PM Author: rusted heaven "lonelyvirgin" is a moniker obviously intended to make fun of xoxo posters. I doubt that person really emailed the yale faculty. I call hoax unless someone can confirm that Yale faculty received it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7748970) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 6:29 PM Author: Fragrant juggernaut (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7749000) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 6:34 PM Author: rusted heaven that was a fucked up thing to do. Edit: I can understand your strong desire to distance yourself from the actions. Outing my location is beyond the pale, though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7749026) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 6:38 PM Author: racy old irish cottage casino so you flamed PW about being lonelyvirgin, then he outted your location, and now you're mad? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7749042) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 6:39 PM Author: rusted heaven not mad. offended by the breach of anonymity. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7749047) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 6:42 PM Author: Fragrant juggernaut (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7749060) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 6:43 PM Author: racy old irish cottage casino out of all the people to own with your skills, Pensive should be #1. #2 would of course he aznazn (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7749064) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 6:45 PM Author: rusted heaven you got identifying info from rach, which is bullshit. that's a totally different story than some random McCarthyite flaming that was already running its course (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7749073) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 6:57 PM Author: Salmon supple hall jewess #5 internet schtick of all time? Who are the other 4? You can 'get IP info' from rach? WTF are you talking about?
Could it be any more obvious that you are actually pensive? |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 7:01 PM Author: Fragrant juggernaut (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7749129) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 7:04 PM Author: Salmon supple hall jewess "Date: March 13th, 2007 7:01 PM Author: MrMiyagi
i'm quoting someone else, dood. FWIW, pensive came in at #19 and i forget where 174 rated (somewhere in between).
yes, i am a schtick because the info i've given is deficient in numerous respects and misleading in others--people will not be able to accurately track me without doing a lot of collateral damage to other people along the way.
i am not going to talk about whatever i do/don't get from Rach or GTO. since we did the deal for t14talent i've switched from being a pain to them to helping. i can't say a lot more, but suffice it to say, i didn't send that shit to YLS and i am not pensive.
GTO or Rach can confirm that i'm not pensive.
HTFH"
You're such a piece of trash. I can't believe anyone takes themself this seriously. |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 6:44 PM Author: excitant background story no one thinks it's fucked up that PAULIEWALNUTS can get posters' locations??? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7749070) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 6:46 PM Author: rusted heaven from rach, the owner of this website, no less? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7749078) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 6:53 PM Author: Fragrant juggernaut (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7749104) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 6:58 PM Author: Flirting disrespectful market There is ZERO other places you could've gotten the information necessary to pin down c00kie to as precise a location as UH. Since GTO is no longer in the picture, and since you earlier stated that you were just talking with rach, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to deduce that that rach gave you c00kie's IP address, or at least a portion of it significant enough to track him down to UH's server.
If anyone really believed that rach was not going to stop logging IP's on this forum, even for a second, they are retarded. Logging IP's is the only way to keep this board from getting externally sabotaged, and rach is smart to keep them. But he shouldn't be handing them out willy-nilly to any Tom, Dick or Harry that requests them. Especially someone who's partially responsible for getting this board in so much hot water lately.
There's something fishy going on here. |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 7:02 PM Author: thriller national (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7749134) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 7:04 PM Author: Flirting disrespectful market Quite an elaborate flame, no? What purpose would such flame serve? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7749141) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 7:06 PM Author: thriller national (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7749148) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 7:06 PM Author: excitant background story coughPENSIVEcough (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7749150) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 7:26 PM Author: Canary frisky electric furnace dude what is the point of xoxojava? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7749255) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 6:59 PM Author: thriller national (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7749123) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 7:02 PM Author: excitant background story why isn't his doing it once enough? this guy is the biggest motherfucker ever to grace this place, as in he actually just ruined the site single-handedly (assuming "he" is just 1 person). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7749132) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 7:04 PM Author: excitant background story interesting. that type of flame would only strengthen support for the pensive = pw theory. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7749140) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 7:03 PM Author: thriller national (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7749137) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 7:05 PM Author: Fragrant juggernaut (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7749144) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 7:08 PM Author: thriller national (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7749155) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 7:10 PM Author: Flirting disrespectful market I think PW is telling the truth, fwiw. Why else would he be deleting all his threads implicating some relationship with rach? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7749158) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 7:12 PM Author: thriller national (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7749166) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 7:13 PM Author: Fragrant juggernaut (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7749172) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 7:14 PM Author: excitant background story Date: March 13th, 2007 7:13 PM Author: MrMiyagi
i said c00kie was posting from ----.
earlier today i pointed out that someone was posting from Chicago.
Rachmiel also said the same thing in the same thread.
HTFH douchebag.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7749172) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 7:15 PM Author: Salmon supple hall jewess Date: March 13th, 2007 7:13 PM Author: MrMiyagi
i said c00kie was posting from U of Houston.
earlier today i pointed out that someone was posting from Chicago.
Rachmiel also said the same thing in the same thread.
HTFH douchebag.
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Date: March 13th, 2007 7:17 PM Author: Flirting disrespectful market Well I, for one, am not taking chances that our IP's are in the hands of PW.
Luckily I've never posted any inflammatory threads, but now I feel compelled to go back and make sure I haven't posted any identifying information and edit that shit out.
Whether or not PW is flaming, it sucks that recent events have made me feel this way. You trolls really suck. |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 7:11 PM Author: Fragrant juggernaut (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7749160) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 7:13 PM Author: thriller national (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7749175) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 7:15 PM Author: Fragrant juggernaut (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7749186) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 7:07 PM Author: Flirting disrespectful market Well we know that PW and rach/GTO had some kind of "agreement" after the taking down of the T14 contest. Perhaps PW was brought on board as some sort of de facto moderator after GTO jumped ship? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7749152) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 7:16 PM Author: Fragrant juggernaut your guess is inaccurate. there are no mods. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7749195) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 7:08 PM Author: Fragrant juggernaut (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7749154) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 7:10 PM Author: thriller national (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7749157) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 7:12 PM Author: Fragrant juggernaut (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7749167) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 7:12 PM Author: excitant background story Date: March 13th, 2007 7:12 PM Author: MrMiyagi
pls edit that first part out.
i cant post this stuff bc i am working with rach on something and i know if i post this shit, someone will copy it and repost it.
(http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=#) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 7:14 PM Author: thriller national (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7749181) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 7:11 PM Author: rough-skinned thirsty fortuitous meteor plaza (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7749163) |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 7:44 PM Author: thriller national I take it you cannot do what I asked?
EDIT: let it be known that PW could not prove he has the powers he claims to. I will edit the rest of my posts for you anyway though PW. |
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Date: March 13th, 2007 9:27 PM Author: Kink-friendly glittery milk weed whacker You are champion of XOXO, brother. No one dare fuck with XOXO ever again (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=594482&forum_id=2#7749751) |