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Date: April 27th, 2007 8:47 PM Author: Flesh Principal's Office e4300 (I will overclock this badboy with stock cooling and it will beat the shit out of $500 processors wgwag) 2 GB 800 Mhz DDR2 RAM 8800 GTS 320 MB MSI P6N nVidia 650i motherboard
It came out to $592 with shipping and taxes.
WGWAG WGWAG
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Date: April 27th, 2007 8:48 PM Author: Federal house overclocking is so unnecesaary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=622115&forum_id=2#8019921) |
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Date: April 27th, 2007 8:50 PM Author: Flesh Principal's Office Not with the Core 2 Duo processors. Intel has purposefully underclocked them by 20%-50% because the architecture is that much better than AMD's offerings. The underclocking is so severe a $115 e4300 can be overclocked to the speeds of a $1000 C2D processor at stock speed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=622115&forum_id=2#8019931) |
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Date: April 27th, 2007 8:54 PM Author: Federal house Damn that's pretty prestigious. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=622115&forum_id=2#8019955) |
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Date: April 27th, 2007 11:23 PM Author: razzle abode ladyboy Dude, you fucked up if you plan on overclocking it. $50 more and you could have had a shiny new E6320, with a 33% faster FSB, and twice the cache. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=622115&forum_id=2#8020810) |
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Date: April 27th, 2007 11:29 PM Author: Flesh Principal's Office I don't think so, dawg. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=622115&forum_id=2#8020855) |
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Date: April 27th, 2007 8:50 PM Author: Fear-inspiring beady-eyed fat ankles market So in addition to foreign policy, financial planning, bioethics, Austrian literature between 1260 and 1270, and sports trivia, you're also the board's resident expert in computing?
You're like SUPERMAN!
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Date: April 27th, 2007 9:09 PM Author: talking dilemma nice. onboard sound and network? reusing existing case/powersupply?
overclocking the core duos is tcr. |
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Date: April 27th, 2007 10:51 PM Author: Flesh Principal's Office Yes. Reusing my case, bought a new PSU a while back. It's a nice Silverstone Element Plus. 500 watts, which is overkill for my needs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=622115&forum_id=2#8020566) |
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Date: April 28th, 2007 4:35 PM Author: talking dilemma what about disks? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=622115&forum_id=2#8024639) |
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Date: April 28th, 2007 4:38 PM Author: Flesh Principal's Office Reusing them. I have two hard drives that have a total capacity of around 450 GB. I've seen some sweet deals for 500 GB hard drives for $100; I might jump for one of those because I'm always running out of space. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=622115&forum_id=2#8024661) |
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Date: April 28th, 2007 4:05 PM Author: iridescent razzle-dazzle old irish cottage trailer park Pretty similar to the computer I'm building next weekend. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=622115&forum_id=2#8024431) |
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Date: April 28th, 2007 4:07 PM Author: Flesh Principal's Office What's your build? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=622115&forum_id=2#8024441) |
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Date: April 28th, 2007 4:10 PM Author: iridescent razzle-dazzle old irish cottage trailer park It is for a friend. Same graphics card, same RAM, but E6600 processor and an ASUS P5B mobo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=622115&forum_id=2#8024461) |
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Date: April 28th, 2007 4:15 PM Author: Flesh Principal's Office I will give you a hot tip on how to score a 8800 GTS for $235:
Go to www.fatwallet.com.
Click on buy.com through its affiliate link with the 15 off 200 coupon.
At buy.com get the $260 PNY 8800 GTS. Use Google Checkout to get $10 off. There, that's an instant $25 off, for 235 bux total. And there's a mail-in rebate for $20, so you can go as low as $215 wgwag. |
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Date: April 28th, 2007 4:20 PM Author: iridescent razzle-dazzle old irish cottage trailer park My friend already ordered his card. I know he looked at some Buy.com deal and had a problem getting the google checkout to apply to the card. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=622115&forum_id=2#8024538) |
Date: April 27th, 2007 8:49 PM Author: emerald exhilarant incel box office I have no idea what this means other than that you don't often touch vaginas. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=622115&forum_id=2#8019927) |
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Date: April 27th, 2007 8:51 PM Author: Flesh Principal's Office Who needs vaginas when I will be playing Oblivion on MAX SETTINGS HOLY SHIT. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=622115&forum_id=2#8019938) |
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Date: April 27th, 2007 8:51 PM Author: emerald exhilarant incel box office I'm sure that's about as much fun as P3Wning a cunnus. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=622115&forum_id=2#8019944) |
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Date: April 27th, 2007 9:13 PM Author: flatulent buff hominid he wouldn't know. leaf has never fucked one. btw, he's 20. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=622115&forum_id=2#8020026) |
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Date: April 27th, 2007 10:52 PM Author: Flesh Principal's Office Also, I have never been on a date or been in a relationship. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=622115&forum_id=2#8020571) |
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Date: April 28th, 2007 4:07 PM Author: Misanthropic anal cumskin why play Oblivion? Not even an MMORPG, right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=622115&forum_id=2#8024445) |
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Date: April 28th, 2007 4:09 PM Author: Flesh Principal's Office Because
1) It's free (I haven't paid for a game in years LOLOLOl omg)
2) It has sick graphics that will stretch the abilities of my new computer.
3) It's a fun game.
4) wgwag |
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Date: April 27th, 2007 8:51 PM Author: Flesh Principal's Office btw, this thread is dedicated to rasquach (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=622115&forum_id=2#8019943) |
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Date: April 27th, 2007 8:55 PM Author: canary wonderful private investor Folding@Dinner thread. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=622115&forum_id=2#8019963) |
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Date: April 28th, 2007 3:57 PM Author: Flesh Principal's Office omg they're all shipping. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=622115&forum_id=2#8024392) |
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Date: April 28th, 2007 4:01 PM Author: domesticated pervert What's e4300? How superior is it to P4? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=622115&forum_id=2#8024416) |
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Date: April 28th, 2007 4:04 PM Author: Flesh Principal's Office The e4300 is the cheapest model of Intel's Core 2 Duo line. It is probably the best processor for the money by far if overclocked. The P4 has a reputation of being slow and hot, while the C2D is seen as its opposite. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=622115&forum_id=2#8024424) |
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Date: April 28th, 2007 4:07 PM Author: domesticated pervert My P4 is really slow. I'm using it exclusively now to download stuff. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=622115&forum_id=2#8024446) |
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Date: April 28th, 2007 4:12 PM Author: Indecent station if I already have an older custom made computer, with all of the drives, power supply, harddrives, and soundcard that I need, how much would it cost to replace the motherboard/RAM and video card to what you have? Is there anything else that I would need to add in addition to what I listed here? And would changing the motherboard out fuck up stuff already saved onto my computer? When I have a little more money this august, I want to upgrade my old computer to a wicked gaming system. Would it be cheaper/easier just to buy a whole new computer? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=622115&forum_id=2#8024475) |
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Date: April 28th, 2007 4:17 PM Author: Flesh Principal's Office I paid $592 for my upgrade. You could probably go as low as $570, including shipping and taxes. If your PSU is crappy, you may have to shell out another $50 or more for a new one. You can probably reuse your old drives and case.
What's your current configuration? |
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Date: April 28th, 2007 4:28 PM Author: Indecent station will the computer you bought be able to run shit like crysis on high settings? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=622115&forum_id=2#8024594) |
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Date: April 28th, 2007 4:31 PM Author: Flesh Principal's Office I have no idea. Crysis not even out. It will be able to run pretty much every game currently out (e.g., S.T.A.L.K.E.R.) at high settings. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=622115&forum_id=2#8024612) |
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Date: April 28th, 2007 4:19 PM Author: pale orchestra pit kitty cat "how much would it cost to replace the motherboard/RAM and video card to what you have?"
Depends on what you want. Could be as little as a couple hundred.
"would changing the motherboard out fuck up stuff already saved onto my computer?"
It would still be on your hard drive, but Windows wouldn't be happy at all. You'd need to reinstall Windows if you want to avoid serious amounts of tinkering time.
"Would it be cheaper/easier just to buy a whole new computer?"
Maybe. If you're running lots of IDE drives, you'll have a hard time finding a shiny new motherboard that can run them all. Things are shifting to SATA. |
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Date: April 28th, 2007 4:22 PM Author: Flesh Principal's Office He'll have to revalidate Windows. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=622115&forum_id=2#8024549) |
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Date: April 28th, 2007 4:25 PM Author: iridescent razzle-dazzle old irish cottage trailer park That's not a problem. He may have to call them up and say he built a new system, but I've done it before. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=622115&forum_id=2#8024576) |
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Date: April 28th, 2007 4:25 PM Author: iridescent razzle-dazzle old irish cottage trailer park As others have said, you may need a new PSU. The new high end graphics cards are pretty power-hungry, and you'll probably need 500W.
Your old system will work fine once you do a reinstall of Windows. You don't have to reformat, just do a repair installation (which can be tricky if you've applied Windows XP SP2; you'll need to look into slipstreaming). |
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Date: April 28th, 2007 4:29 PM Author: Indecent station thanks dood (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=622115&forum_id=2#8024600) |
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Date: April 28th, 2007 4:32 PM Author: Flesh Principal's Office Don't perpetuate the evil myth of watts. If his PSU is 450ish watts and has enough amps on its rails, it'll be good. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=622115&forum_id=2#8024618) |
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Date: April 28th, 2007 4:37 PM Author: iridescent razzle-dazzle old irish cottage trailer park Yeah, absolutely correct. But the newest graphics cards require 26A on the 12V rail, which is 312W right there. It is pretty hard to find a 400W power supply that will work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=622115&forum_id=2#8024653) |
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Date: April 28th, 2007 4:38 PM Author: Flesh Principal's Office Most graphics cards will never pull that many watts.
http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/bfg8800gts/10.html
And the Core 2 Duo processors are very efficient. They'll pull maybe 60 watts under load. |
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Date: April 28th, 2007 4:43 PM Author: iridescent razzle-dazzle old irish cottage trailer park Probably, but better safe than sorry. When I built my last computer, I just went with a REALLY nice Antec Neo HE 500W supply:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817103940
Figure it will last me for at least the next build I do, if not the next two. |
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Date: April 28th, 2007 4:45 PM Author: Flesh Principal's Office Nice. Are you overclocking? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=622115&forum_id=2#8024711) |
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Date: April 28th, 2007 4:57 PM Author: iridescent razzle-dazzle old irish cottage trailer park No. I'm too risk averse, and haven't really seen any need for the extra performance (I can already run Oblivion at max settings).
EDIT: Here is my current system.
CPU: Athlon 64 3500+ Memory: 2 gigs of DDR Hard Drive: 2 250GB SATA II drives running in RAID Video Card: Radeon X1800XT 512MB Sound Card: SB X-Fi Platinum |
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Date: April 28th, 2007 4:40 PM Author: domesticated pervert What's rail? I'm almost completely ignorant about hardware. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=622115&forum_id=2#8024674) |
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Date: April 28th, 2007 4:43 PM Author: Flesh Principal's Office http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_supply_rail (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=622115&forum_id=2#8024698) |
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Date: April 28th, 2007 4:46 PM Author: domesticated pervert ty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=622115&forum_id=2#8024718) |
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Date: April 28th, 2007 4:48 PM Author: Flesh Principal's Office I don't know much about rails myself other than how many watts and amps they have to deliver to make certain computer parts work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=622115&forum_id=2#8024730) |
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Date: April 28th, 2007 4:48 PM Author: iridescent razzle-dazzle old irish cottage trailer park http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_supply_rail
When you look at the back of a power supply, you will see a list of voltages and amps. These refer to the lines of power (or "rails") that the supply delivers to the computer. Different peripherals use different voltages.
The mistake many people make is assuming that the higher number of watts in a power supply the better. This is the incorrect way to calculate your power needs. All that really matters is that you have enough power on each rail. A ton of extra power on a 3V rail (which boosts up a PSU's overall wattage) does you no good when the power-sucking devices (CPU/Graphics Card/etc.) almost all use the 12V rail.
So, as an example, the latest line of graphics cards all suggest 26A on the 12V rail. So when you look at power supplies, it is more important to look at the 12V rail than the overall wattage. A 500W power supply with only 15A on the 12V rail is probably inadequate; a 450W power supply with 26A on the 12V rail is fine. |
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Date: April 28th, 2007 4:54 PM Author: domesticated pervert Subtle Chicago trolling (the city, not the school). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=622115&forum_id=2#8024786) |
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Date: April 28th, 2007 4:34 PM Author: cowardly wild business firm I went to get IE 7 for something b/c firefox wasn't recognized and my "genuine check" or whetever couldn't find my microsoft reg so I'm left without IE and I can't get it emailed since it's an .exe file.
What's the thing on firefox that makes websites think you're using IE? |
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Date: April 28th, 2007 4:37 PM Author: iridescent razzle-dazzle old irish cottage trailer park https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1419 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=622115&forum_id=2#8024658) |
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Date: April 28th, 2007 4:45 PM Author: cowardly wild business firm thanks. i hate when websites don't tell you 1) that's why the site isn't working for you or 2) recognize everyone cool uses firefix and they need to adapt to the times. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=622115&forum_id=2#8024714) |
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Date: July 16th, 2007 4:26 PM Author: Flesh Principal's Office I love my computer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=622115&forum_id=2#8392716) |
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Date: July 16th, 2007 4:41 PM Author: canary wonderful private investor I'm going to get one or both of the SPCR systems in a month or so: http://www.silentpcreview.com/article698-page1.html (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=622115&forum_id=2#8392789) |
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Date: July 16th, 2007 4:45 PM Author: Flesh Principal's Office Why don't you buy all the parts yourself? You'll save a ton of money that way. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=622115&forum_id=2#8392802) |
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Date: July 16th, 2007 4:58 PM Author: canary wonderful private investor It's more fun when you're in school and have more time than money. Soon I'll be working and have more money than time.
Putting parts together is simple enough if you just want a computer that runs really fast. If you have some other criteria, like appearance, size, and/or noise then it gets exponentially more complicated. My current computer is an SFF that looks and sounds great but I cycled through a lot of video cards, fans, etc. before I found ones that would work well together in the space that I had.
From a purely cost perspective I've also found it hard to beat Dell in pricing. They get such bulk discount pricing on their parts and the desktops are actually pretty well designed. My computer was cost-effective only because I bought almost all used parts off Anandtech or eBay. |
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Date: July 16th, 2007 4:55 PM Author: Supple tattoo doctorate When I bought my processor the E6300 was the cheapest available. I got it for around $180-190 shipped. I'm currently overclocking it to around 3 GHz (1.8 original) but I'm hesitant to go farther because of how hot it is this summer. I'm using a Scythe Ninja cooler. It's a good cooler and I shouldn't have heat problems, but it looks like the processor's IHS is NOT flat (THANKS INTEL). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=622115&forum_id=2#8392839) |
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Date: July 16th, 2007 5:01 PM Author: irradiated church ceo My iMac is way cooler. HTH (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=622115&forum_id=2#8392860) |
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Date: July 16th, 2007 5:19 PM Author: Flesh Principal's Office Your iMac is shit. HTH (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=622115&forum_id=2#8392928) |
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Date: July 16th, 2007 5:24 PM Author: irradiated church ceo It doesn't help. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=622115&forum_id=2#8392945) |