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Men are happier than Women??
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Date: September 26th, 2007 1:59 PM Author: histrionic nudist sound barrier http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/26/business/26leonhardt.html?_r=1&ref=business&oref=slogin
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Date: September 26th, 2007 1:59 PM Author: Dashing box office party of the first part Women also hate their parents. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=692407&forum_id=2#8692099) |
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Date: September 26th, 2007 2:03 PM Author: histrionic nudist sound barrier guess the pressure to work, take care of kids/mom/dad, and be HOT is just too much. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=692407&forum_id=2#8692120) |
Date: September 26th, 2007 2:02 PM Author: Dashing box office party of the first part "Since the 1960s, men have gradually cut back on activities they find unpleasant."
Brilliant! |
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Date: September 26th, 2007 5:35 PM Author: shaky aromatic point Underrated post (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=692407&forum_id=2#8693075) |
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Date: September 26th, 2007 7:29 PM Author: Dashing box office party of the first part Correct. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=692407&forum_id=2#8693498) |
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Date: September 26th, 2007 2:16 PM Author: Grizzly curious degenerate fortuitous meteor It could be that men are less likely to complain and express displeasure, and thus would be more likely to subconsciously inflate their happiness score. I'd suspect the opposite is true for women. It's impossible to know which gender really is happier.
This result also flies in the face of the whole "angry white male" stereotype. |
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Date: September 26th, 2007 2:21 PM Author: Canary philosopher-king Impossible? God, you sound like a fucking 15-year-old whining, "that's just your opinion!" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=692407&forum_id=2#8692209) |
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Date: September 26th, 2007 2:24 PM Author: Grizzly curious degenerate fortuitous meteor All we're asking these people to do is give opinions as to their happiness level. As in all personality tests and surveys, people can "mistype". We don't have psychics who can objectively and independently evaluate the happiness levels of different demographics. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=692407&forum_id=2#8692220) |
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Date: September 26th, 2007 2:36 PM Author: Canary philosopher-king Jesus Christ. Typos explain it? You're an imbecile.
You deny people knowledge of their own inner states and attribute any sex differentials to mistakes.
God, you're stupid.
"We don't have psychics who can objectively and independently evaluate the happiness levels of different demographics."
Yeah, it's too bad we're stuck with the people who actually live their lives. One's EXPERIENCE is NECESSARILY SUBJECTIVE. How fucking stupid are you? There's no such thing as objectively evaluating another's experiences becuase experience in inherently subjective. The objective facts and situations don't become experiences until their filtered through a mind.
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Date: September 26th, 2007 2:41 PM Author: Grizzly curious degenerate fortuitous meteor Mistype =/= typos. It means that a person may misidentify themselves as having more of one trait than they actually have when filling out a personality test. Wishful thinking, mainly.
Using the F-word and repeatedly calling me stupid doesn't make you sound any smarter. |
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Date: September 26th, 2007 2:44 PM Author: Canary philosopher-king You ARE stupid. Just look at your bullshit claim about psychics and objectivity. You don't even know what experience is. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=692407&forum_id=2#8692332) |
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Date: September 26th, 2007 2:50 PM Author: Grizzly curious degenerate fortuitous meteor I'm just offering some alternate explanation for the statistical results. If it's wrong, who cares. I tend to be skeptical of any result if it's prefaced with the phrase "studies show...".
I wouldn't be surprised if women really were unhappier now than they were back then; if my day solely consisted of dusting, cooking, power yoga, three-martini brunches with other stay-at-home types, and sex I'd be much happier. |
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Date: September 26th, 2007 2:27 PM Author: histrionic nudist sound barrier so women like to whine? Tell me something new (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=692407&forum_id=2#8692238) |
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Date: September 26th, 2007 2:32 PM Author: Grizzly curious degenerate fortuitous meteor Women whine, men stay stoic. The man could be going through as much unhappiness as the woman but isn't going to admit it, especially to himself (e.g. in the context of a questionnaire). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=692407&forum_id=2#8692267) |
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Date: September 26th, 2007 2:39 PM Author: histrionic nudist sound barrier Well as another poster already said, this has not always been the case. Women used to survey "happier" and now they don't (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=692407&forum_id=2#8692309) |
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Date: September 26th, 2007 2:43 PM Author: Grizzly curious degenerate fortuitous meteor Then be happy you're a man, then.
At least we get multiple orgasms. |
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Date: September 26th, 2007 3:06 PM Author: flushed tantric chad Whore! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=692407&forum_id=2#8692417) |
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Date: September 26th, 2007 3:26 PM Author: Yellow Nursing Home Admit it though, you'd trade that in a second to pee standing up.
Besides, the only reason you would have multiple orgasms during sex is because the encounter continues until we orgasm once, firmly establishing females as the second sex. Unless you're doing it with another chick. Which would be kinda hot. |
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Date: September 26th, 2007 2:33 PM Author: bonkers antidepressant drug the article did say that it wasn't always like this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=692407&forum_id=2#8692270) |
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Date: September 26th, 2007 2:39 PM Author: Canary philosopher-king GraceKelly is a mouth-breathing retard. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=692407&forum_id=2#8692310) |
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Date: September 26th, 2007 3:21 PM Author: buff dead love of her life Shut the fuck up you stupid whore. Women are insecure. The perfect example proof of women being unhappier is when you are in a shitty situation that you cannot get out of. Men will accept or make the most of it while women will insist on being miserable and taking other with them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=692407&forum_id=2#8692477) |
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Date: September 26th, 2007 3:23 PM Author: Mind-boggling indigo dog poop men don't whine?
are you kidding? |
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Date: September 26th, 2007 2:21 PM Author: Canary philosopher-king "There haven’t been any dust-related technological breakthroughs, so houses are probably just dirtier than they used to be. I imagine that the new American dustiness affects women’s happiness more than men’s."
Women are so silly. |
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Date: September 26th, 2007 2:28 PM Author: bonkers antidepressant drug I think the parents thing is that they tend to be more protective of their daughters than sons. Kids tend to withdraw and want to keep their distance when a parent is overprotective. They associate their parents with an authority figure. Nobody likes to hang around with authority figures. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=692407&forum_id=2#8692248) |
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Date: September 26th, 2007 2:51 PM Author: Swollen trailer park I think the difference is that women feel an obligation to help others more than men. Look at the friends' number. If men don't like being around certain people, they just don't do it, no matter the circumstances. Likewise, if a guy doesn't like his parents, he's probably just not going to do anything with them. Women feel an obligation to them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=692407&forum_id=2#8692356) |
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Date: September 26th, 2007 2:53 PM Author: Grizzly curious degenerate fortuitous meteor This doesn't explain why women tested happier 30 years ago. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=692407&forum_id=2#8692365) |
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Date: September 26th, 2007 4:00 PM Author: Azure elastic band crackhouse Women juggling career and children would completely explain this. This didn't happen 30 years ago. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=692407&forum_id=2#8692643) |
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Date: September 26th, 2007 4:03 PM Author: Mind-boggling indigo dog poop hi Medea! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=692407&forum_id=2#8692656) |
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Date: September 26th, 2007 4:08 PM Author: Azure elastic band crackhouse Hi! Do you agree with me? I think it's unfortunate, yet true. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=692407&forum_id=2#8692683) |
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Date: September 26th, 2007 4:13 PM Author: Mind-boggling indigo dog poop I do.
I don't plan to be a part of it, though. If I settle down, it will be with a guy who really cares about being an involved with family, like the men in my family. In fact, most of the men in my family are more family oriented than the women. As far as housework . . . meh, I've always been a slob :) I believe evrey couple should work out what the jobs are by their individual personalities and values, not their gender.
My dating pool is small enough as it is, so adding that criteria doesn't make much of a difference, anyway.
But it sucks. I always thought that society has as many limits on men as it does on women - the pressures are just different. Women used to complain about being kept out of the workforce - however, if you hate your job, like many people do, women actually luck out with that system. Men were expected to work even if they hated their jobs. And the kids would still love mom more, since she was around all the time.
So it makes sense that more women in the workforce makes life easier for men. |
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Date: September 26th, 2007 4:54 PM Author: Grizzly curious degenerate fortuitous meteor I think a lot of it is true, but I'm skeptical as to whether it's the only cause of the apparent happiness disparity. There are still a lot of traditional family units out there where the woman doesn't work.
I would be interested in breaking the stats down demographically, especially between single "career women", working married mothers, working single mothers, stay-at-home wives without kids, and stay-at-home wives with kids.
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Date: September 26th, 2007 4:59 PM Author: Mind-boggling indigo dog poop can we agree that people in general suck? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=692407&forum_id=2#8692936) |
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Date: September 26th, 2007 5:16 PM Author: razzle affirmative action immigrant Yes. Chicks are hard on themselves too. They want to be perfect at work, just like guys do, but they also still have a Martha Stewart complex about their houses and kids while guys are more relaxed.
Plus it seems like a lot of women are constantly questioning the choices they made about having kids or not, staying home or working, and carping at ones who picked differently. I can't imagine that leads to satisfaction. |
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Date: September 26th, 2007 5:25 PM Author: Grizzly curious degenerate fortuitous meteor I think a lot of it has to do with options. People who have a lot of options tend to be more confused and perhaps less "happy" than those who have less options. Women have the option to devote time to career, family, themselves, or a combination of any or all of the above. There's more societal pressure on men to be the breadwinner than there is on women to be the caregiver. Society gives men less choice to break out of their traditional role, and since society is largely patriarchal, what do they have to complain about? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=692407&forum_id=2#8693034) |
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Date: September 26th, 2007 3:18 PM Author: buff dead love of her life That made no sense and you are completely wrong. Men enjoy being around their parents because the mother-son relationship is the most prestigious, and drinking beer with dad talking about fucking bitches is enjoyable. Whereas, daughter-mom is horrible because of daddy issues/competition, and daughter-father she has to guilt self about being a whore. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=692407&forum_id=2#8692466) |
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Date: September 26th, 2007 5:05 PM Author: Grizzly curious degenerate fortuitous meteor All broad generalizations. I have a wonderful relationship with my father. Relationship with mother is a bit strained at times, admittedly, but I know plenty of females who are very close to their mothers.
I can see how men might have more fun with their parents for the reasons you mentioned, although I know girls whose mothers talk to them about masturbation and whatnot. |
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Date: September 26th, 2007 3:30 PM Author: Mind-boggling indigo dog poop I don't know if women feel the obligation, but in most families I see, the parents develop a closer relationship to the daughters. Closer relationships ->>>>>> more responsibility and expectations. I know that in my family all the sick gradparents and great gradnparents were nursed by their daughters more than their sons. And if you walk into any hospital or nursing home you see firsthand that daughters visit more than sons. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=692407&forum_id=2#8692516) |
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Date: September 26th, 2007 2:39 PM Author: rusted concupiscible area The sooner women realize they can't have kids as well as careers, the happier we'll all be. This is what happens when we try to break with basic biology. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=692407&forum_id=2#8692316) |
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Date: September 26th, 2007 3:27 PM Author: Mind-boggling indigo dog poop This is a good summary.
"Her mother’s goals in life, the student said, were to have a beautiful garden, a well-kept house and well-adjusted children who did well in school. “I sort of want all those things, too,” the student said, as Ms. Stevenson recalled, “but I also want to have a great career and have an impact on the broader world.”"
I think one of the problems with American culture, too, is that men don't seem to care about family as much as women. It's something I never understood. |
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Date: September 26th, 2007 3:28 PM Author: buff dead love of her life "I think one of the problems with American culture, too, is that men don't seem to care about family as much as women. It's something I never understood." Basic evolutionary biology flies over your head, cunt? |
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Date: September 26th, 2007 3:31 PM Author: Mind-boggling indigo dog poop I guess the world outside of America doesn't count, huh? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=692407&forum_id=2#8692521) |
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Date: September 26th, 2007 3:33 PM Author: buff dead love of her life Men don't care about their kids anywhere dumbfuck. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=692407&forum_id=2#8692527) |
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Date: September 26th, 2007 3:41 PM Author: Mind-boggling indigo dog poop keep telling yourself that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=692407&forum_id=2#8692558) |
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Date: September 26th, 2007 3:54 PM Author: Lake heady rehab new version http://www.religionnewsblog.com/13832/indian-cult-kills-children-for-goddess
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Date: September 26th, 2007 7:09 PM Author: Canary philosopher-king Tell us about the Land of Super Caring Fathers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=692407&forum_id=2#8693430) |
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Date: September 26th, 2007 4:51 PM Author: Grizzly curious degenerate fortuitous meteor Absentee father issues, much? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=692407&forum_id=2#8692914) |
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Date: September 26th, 2007 5:31 PM Author: scarlet overrated haunted graveyard you're talking to rasquach, right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=692407&forum_id=2#8693062) |
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Date: September 26th, 2007 8:10 PM Author: supple bat-shit-crazy indian lodge All of his issues are coming out on this thread. It's quite amusing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=692407&forum_id=2#8693660) |
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Date: September 26th, 2007 4:11 PM Author: up-to-no-good church lettuce This is not uniquely American. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=692407&forum_id=2#8692705) |
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Date: September 26th, 2007 6:39 PM Author: Chrome School Cafeteria They just need to stop having kids, that's all. Look better, career success, you can have it all. Plus they need to stop pretending they are just like men. It's not healthy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=692407&forum_id=2#8693299) |
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Date: September 26th, 2007 7:02 PM Author: Azure elastic band crackhouse Or pick one or the other. It's nearly impossible to do both without going insane. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=692407&forum_id=2#8693398) |
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Date: September 26th, 2007 7:05 PM Author: Chrome School Cafeteria That's true. I can see how all of us not having kids could have some negative consequences... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=692407&forum_id=2#8693415) |
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Date: September 26th, 2007 8:56 PM Author: unholy plum temple Why is it that women have to choose while men simply expect to work and have everything else taken care of. I wish I had that easy of a choice. In some ways, it's unfair to men who want to be primary caretakers of the house and children, as well -- those men are just as constricted by gender roles as women.
And I don't buy the evolution argument. Even if it's true that women generally gravitate toward being the primary caretaker, there's no evidence that's biological as opposed to cultural. Either way, the "exceptional" woman who doesn't want give up her career but does want to have kids should be allowed to, just as men are, and do.
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Date: September 26th, 2007 9:05 PM Author: naked fragrant theatre wrinkle "Even if it's true that women generally gravitate toward being the primary caretaker, there's no evidence that's biological as opposed to cultural."
Have you ever heard of other cultures? A cross-cultural study might be helpful--oh wait THEY'VE BEEN DOING THOSE FOR DECADES.
Bushwomen are primary caretakers. So are rainforest mothers. blah blah blah. |
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Date: September 26th, 2007 9:11 PM Author: unholy plum temple I thought the goal was to progress as a society -- I didn't realize we were confined to the gender roles of our evolutionary ancestors and drastically isolated societies. I know plenty of exceptions to the "rule," and they shouldn't be constrained bc they're women. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=692407&forum_id=2#8693868) |
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Date: September 26th, 2007 10:51 PM Author: violent cracking kitchen weed whacker when they talk about "happy" men and women content with their lot, with actual friends and family who love and care about them, not striving/wanting to killself daily, it excluded 90% of xo posters. this discussion is way off topic for the board
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