800 for brooks brothers suit, overpriced?
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Date: December 2nd, 2007 3:43 PM Author: Nudist dopamine step-uncle's house
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Date: December 2nd, 2007 3:59 PM Author: domesticated copper laser beams
not comparable. jos a banks is true TTT.
BB is a decent value for money (though even more valuable if you get it on summer sale).
biggest value of BB is having THEM do the tailoring, and be an anal fuck until it comes out perfect (usually have them send my rack suits in at least twice for tailoring.. any good tailor will admit that even for them it takes two fittings to get it right. as such, with BB doing measurements, but then sending it out to a factory tailor, it definitely takes two fittings to get it right. seriously. insist when you go in to try on after one fitting, and they will do it. if they don't threaten to walk, pissed off.
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Date: December 2nd, 2007 4:09 PM Author: domesticated copper laser beams
i disagree, but even if you're right, that's not much of a value if you have to throw it out after two weeks of use because it's unfit for biglaw.
i agree that cheap suits at the jos banks level that are well-fitted can be gotten away with for interviews (at least screening interviews) because it takes a whole day for them to become a huge wrinkled mess (unlike mens wearhouse which get that way after an hour or two). but you don't want that jos a. banks shit as a summer. so why throw out $300. put that $300 towards the $800 suit. then, next summer, buy another one at BB summer sale for $500. (if this one you buy is navy, buy the other one in charcoal, or vise versa... wear black shoes with both, along with a NICE i.e. $50+ leather belt, and a good cotton dress shirt (BB non-iron a decent choice at $65 a piece).
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Date: December 2nd, 2007 11:27 PM Author: Naked avocado useless brakes menage
In LS I had two men's wearhouse suits. Now in BIGLAW I have some Jos Banks suits. Maybe they all sucks compared to BB but I can't tell worth shit. The only difference I notice is that at men's wearhouse you're serviced by a dude who probably was working at McDonalds the prior week who has no idea about suits, at Jos Banks your services by a dude who probably was working at HR Block last week and knows not much about suits. I've never been to BB.
The only time I notice shitty suits is if they haven't been ironed or if they are obviously not wool. Sadly I see this in court all the time. Plaintiff's lawyers are fucking ghetto as fuck.
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Date: December 2nd, 2007 11:43 PM Author: Grizzly razzle milk
I was buying a new winter coat last year and decided that I'd at least see what styles looked good from some of the better stores or perhaps find a great deal. I went to a mall not too far from my house with a lot of nice stores, like BB, Saks, Bloomingdales, Armani Exchange, and so on. I went into Brooks Brothers and looked at few things. The clothes were certainly nice, but I didn't notice a whole lot of difference from what I saw in there and what I saw in JCrew, or what I saw in Saks. The main difference was price. I didn't really notice the sales people, except I now realized they probably looked at me like I was wasting their time. I can't imagine caring a whole lot about who is selling me the clothes right now, because even though I'm trying to go for a more mature look, I still don't need to worry about professional clothes right now.
What are most suits made of?
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Date: December 2nd, 2007 11:55 PM Author: Grizzly razzle milk
It is a nice store. I wouldn't buy that much in the store, but it seems to fulfill its role as the younger, trendier version of Armani. It's not the most expensive store on the planet, but it's certainly more upscale than a lot of others.
"lso do you not realize that the majority of what you would find in Saks >>>>> BB"
When I said the main difference was price, exactly what did you think I meant? Brooks Brothers is considered to be a little below Burberry, which is in Saks. I know this, even though I never shop at those stores.
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Date: December 3rd, 2007 12:29 AM Author: Grizzly razzle milk
"A/X is well known to be the domain of FOB asians and guidos..."
As opposed to what?
"Now you're bringing Burberry (the domain of blacks and chavs) into the discussion so it's clearly flame."
I was just using that as an example of a line of clothing that Saks carries that indicates, by nothing other than price, why it's considered a better store than a lot of others. Would Cole Haan, D&G, Diesel, or Gucci work better?
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Date: December 3rd, 2007 12:36 AM Author: domesticated copper laser beams
if you don't know what to look for you can't tell difference.
difference between a cheap suit and a good suit is not how it looks when you put it on, but rather, how it looks when you move (how fabric hangs) and how it looks after 5 or 6 hours of wear (wrinkles and such).
as for ironing your suit - i hope to fuck you meant "steam" you fucking TTT.
if the suit isn't wool don't even consider it. but even TTT suits are wool. the key is how good the wool is.
the SOLE deciding factor in a cheap vs. good suit often comes down to the fabric. higher end suits help defray their costs because you dry clean them much less often and they last longer (They dont wrinkle - esp if you hang them after wear).
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Date: December 3rd, 2007 12:39 AM Author: Slap-happy Curious Dingle Berry
i think an accurate statement is "no one will tell." but i think you "can" tell. go look at and feel the expensive plain black belts at sak's, then do the same at sears.
the way i look at it, why not go ahead and spend $60 for a belt made of high-quality black leather that will last you most of your life probably? as i get older, it's annoying to have lots of shit clothes around. today i decided i was going to donate a ton to charity.
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Date: December 2nd, 2007 11:34 PM Author: Slap-happy Curious Dingle Berry
those suits are kind of boxy.
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Date: December 3rd, 2007 12:43 AM Author: Spectacular alcoholic spot
lol @ people who buy expensive suits thinking someone's going to notice and/or care.
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Date: December 3rd, 2007 12:45 AM Author: domesticated copper laser beams
i've heard comments from partners that tell me otherwise.
people don't notice or care if you're wearing a nice suit. they do if you're wearing a shitty one. it's about not being noticed, in this case.
fyi - $500 - 800 isn't expensive -- it's entry-level for a professional. htfh
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Date: December 3rd, 2007 12:49 AM Author: domesticated copper laser beams
CAN YOU READ?
NO - partner never said nice suit. however i have heard them make digs at the menswearhouse fucks and say shit like "don't we pay these kids enough to get some class?" or "remind me to leave him at the office when i meet with _____". the point is that a good suit won't get any compliments, as it's expected, but a shitty one will get noticed.
i agree if you argued that a 2K suit might actually be a bad idea. the key is to shoot down the middle, in the $800-1000 range ($500 lowend if you go to BB summmer sale). i do think that an armani custom suit stands out in a bad way too (who the fuck he think he is?).
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Date: December 3rd, 2007 12:53 AM Author: Spectacular alcoholic spot
why do you make things up? does it really make you feel better about buying worthless shit and hoping you'll get noticed?
obviously, if you wear something that's ill-fitting, dirty, inappropriate or completely out of style (think double-breasted), then yes, people may comment. but if you're wearing a clean, pressed suit made by ralph lauren and bought at macy's for $175 no one's going to fucking notice it and not take you to a client meeting. give me a fucking break.
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Date: December 3rd, 2007 12:55 AM Author: domesticated copper laser beams
it's a wrinkled mess by 5:00. i'd be embarrassed to take you to the important dinner afterwards.
enjoy being a bitch-drone you cheap fuck. $175 suit is pathetic. i don't know where to begin. fabric. seams. construction. ugh. seriously, you ARE a TTT.
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Date: December 3rd, 2007 1:00 AM Author: Spectacular alcoholic spot
all suits wrinkle, buddy. i'm sorry if you think yours don't. you think BB has some fucking super duper factory that produces their suits? lol. good luck with life. i wish you all the best in your finest attire.
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Date: December 3rd, 2007 1:03 AM Author: domesticated copper laser beams
lol at your stupidity. you have no clue what the fuck you're talking about. and you have admitted that with the fact that your "nice" suits are $175 a piece. you have nothing to compare it to. stfu and stop pwning yourself.
actually, a fine wool suit doesn't wrinkle nearly as much. most of mine can go up to 8 wears without going ot the cleaners provided i hang the jacket when i take it off (i do own a $500 pants press for emergencies though).
i see guys all the time covered in wrinkles. it's an embarrassment. i am wrinkle free at the end of a day.
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Date: December 3rd, 2007 1:19 AM Author: domesticated copper laser beams
ABSORB = stays in the cotton you fucking moron. anyone who also wears halfway decent clothes will agree with me. this seriously has got to be flame.
read BB trolls post below about how often high-end suits get drycleaned. that is fact, not made up fantasy.
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Date: December 3rd, 2007 1:15 AM Author: Mentally Impaired Crusty Hunting Ground
If you meet with some of the Savile Row tailors, some of them will be wearing 10-20+ years old suits that have never been dry-cleaned, just sponged and pressed.
If you air it out for at least a week and steam occasionally, high-quality wool does not retain odors (like sweat), unless you are a smoker or spill food on it.
(N.B. Spilling food or getting grease/oil on it is probably the only time you should get the suit professionally dry cleaned. The reason for this is that in addition to staining the fabric, the residue of dried food attracts moths. Reweaving even a small moth hole costs more than a $99 Men's Wearhouse special.)
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Date: December 3rd, 2007 1:12 AM Author: twinkling medicated fanboi marketing idea
If they wrinkle less (I'll take your word for it) it's probably because they spray them with some new lacquer developed by Firestone that imparts static resistance on synthetic materials.
They still look like cheaply made shit tho.
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Date: December 3rd, 2007 12:57 AM Author: domesticated copper laser beams
you are such a lower-middle class poor. DUDE, a ralph lauren or nautica from macy's are no better than the 2 for $99 suit. that's the joke. the suits you're talking about are the ones on perennial sale, always "marked down from $450" or some bullshit. no way. that shit is garbage. seriously - it's a huge profit center for them. the target is the poor who wants a "name brand suit" and will wear it once a year to funerals.
seriously, you need a crash course in how to dress like a professional.
i'm guessing you wear rubber soled dress shoes too? hahahaha.
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Date: December 3rd, 2007 1:03 AM Author: Spectacular alcoholic spot
i'd explain how pathetic you sound but i guess it'd be worthless. some day you'll realize that that BB suit is made at the same factory as the lauren or nautica.
marked down from $450? hmm... yeah... seems familiar... oh, wait, "buy 1 suit get $400 off another"? lol. bwahahahahahaha.
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Date: December 3rd, 2007 1:11 AM Author: domesticated copper laser beams
leather soles or rubber soles?
another place people are stupid. spend $150 on sale for a pair of good shoes and you can have them re-soled for $50 when you wear them out. cheap shoes you can't do that with.
also, rubber soled shoes are TTT and not to be worn with suits. (ok for biz casual).
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Date: December 3rd, 2007 1:23 AM Author: Spectacular alcoholic spot
lol. i'm not at that point yet. but if i dont make partner in a few years, i'll be sure to recall this conversation and lament the fact that i never bought a BB suit.
lol.
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Date: December 3rd, 2007 1:10 AM Author: Mentally Impaired Crusty Hunting Ground
"some day you'll realize that that BB suit is made at the same factory as the lauren or nautica."
Lauren Ralph Lauren and Nautica are made in the 3rd World.
Compare:
the Brookease are made in Massachusetts I believe.
1818 is made in Italy.
BB sportcoats are made in Italy or the U.S.
Golden Fleece is made in Italy or the Martin Greenfield factory in Brooklyn.
Made-to-Measure (to Golden Fleece standards)is made by Martin Greenfield in Brooklyn.
Black Fleece (designed by Thom Browne) is made in Italy.
Only the 346 line (sold only at the outlets) has been made in countries other than the US and Italy. 346 has been made in Asia and the Middle East.
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Date: December 3rd, 2007 1:01 AM Author: Grizzly razzle milk
I'm not saying you go out and buy $2500 suits, ten at a time. I'm merely saying that, as frustrating as paying a lot of money for clothes can be, if you're making a decent amount and there's a certain look you're expected you have, suck it up and dress the way they want.
"there's a difference between buying a cheap suit from some mall in the store that sells 2 for $99.99 and a ralph lauren or nautica from macy's."
Well, yes. Assuming it's not on sale, even the cheapest ones there are $400-500.
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Date: December 3rd, 2007 12:48 AM Author: Turquoise Station
BB always has sales. Wait for one of half yearly sales.
Otherwise, there are other deals that occur during the year. They just finished a buy one suit, get a second for $400 off deal. You can open a credit card, buy two suits, and you don't pay that much.
I assume you're talking about the 1818, and I don't think these are overpriced, even if you are buying them at retail, but seriously just wait for the sales.
BBs suits are way better, but don't get anything less than the 1818, such as a Brookease.
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Date: December 3rd, 2007 1:00 AM Author: Mentally Impaired Crusty Hunting Ground
BB is regularly 25 % off.
So for me $600 is what I would pay for the 1818 ($800 retail).
If it were an after-Xmas sale and I could get a Golden Fleece for $800 (vs. $1600-1800 retail), that would be even better.
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Date: December 3rd, 2007 1:05 AM Author: twinkling medicated fanboi marketing idea
800 for brooks brothers? WTF????
There used to be a Brooks Brothers and they made suits that were high end. It no longer exists.
There is now a Brooks Brothers that makes shit suits and sells them at exorbitant prices. It exists by ripping off people who think they still make high end suits.
Even so, 800 seems really high for them.
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Date: December 3rd, 2007 1:07 AM Author: domesticated copper laser beams
WARNING - STAY THE FUCK AWAY FROM BB OUTLET STORES.
i made mistake of buying shirts here, and occasional other stuff. quickly realized ITS AN ENTIRELY OTHER LINE OF CLOTHES. the outlet shit is made specifically for the outlet by other suppliers. it is literally tjmaxx grade, or no-name macy's dress shirt grade.
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Date: December 3rd, 2007 1:10 AM Author: twinkling medicated fanboi marketing idea
I had to google golden fleece because I had no idea what it is.
Now that I know, my question is this:
What possible explanation could there be for someone with 1500 bucks to blow on a suit to blow it on a BB suit?
My theories:
retarded with family money
recent lotttery winner
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Date: December 3rd, 2007 1:09 AM Author: burgundy vibrant hospital haunted graveyard
dear poors: $800 is NOT EXPENSIVE FOR A SUIT.
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Date: December 3rd, 2007 1:26 AM Author: twinkling medicated fanboi marketing idea
Depends. It isn't an expensive if it is a suit you wear on occasions/interviews.
If you are a first year associate and it is one of a few suits that you will wear at work, then it is somewhat expensive.
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Date: December 3rd, 2007 2:28 AM Author: well-lubricated lascivious theatre
I love the people on here who (correctly) trash Men's Warehouse and JosABank for being shitty, but think that BB is the gold standard for a junior biglawyer.
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Date: December 3rd, 2007 9:37 AM Author: hideous idiotic theater wagecucks
You fucking people care way too much about stupid shit. The term "poor" is thrown around on this board constantly as if it is the be all and end all of insults for all you blue blooded millionaires posting here, but seriously, I would MUCH rather be a poor than care so much about such trivialities.
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Date: December 6th, 2007 10:57 AM Author: effete gas station
The only thing better than these suit threads are the workout threads... Some of you people crack my shit up.
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