Date: January 28th, 2008 7:23 PM Author: Doobsian Talented Persian
I think Madrid blows severely. Over-rated, nothing much of interest, and the Madrilenos are nowhere near as gregarious/out-going as I would have expected. Also, outside of a few streets in the city core, it's quite non-descript. Many Latin American capitals are better.
Frankfurt is about as ascetic and lacking in personality as any place I've ever been.
London is Brooklyn redux...but with far uglier people and worse weather.
Date: January 28th, 2008 7:30 PM Author: Doobsian Talented Persian
What rocks about it? I found it utterly dull and uninspired.
Now, Andalucia --places like Seville and Cadiz--rock. That's what Mediterranean culture is all about....but Madrilenos are almost ashamed to admit their Iberian roots and seem to want to be German.
Date: January 28th, 2008 7:36 PM Author: Misanthropic Field Stain
ashamed to admit their Iberian roots??? want to be german? wtf. thats a better way to describe barcelona. this makes me think you dont know madrid at all.
people in madrid completely enjoy their lives; there are tons of public squares and side streets tucked away with tapas places.
the clubs are better than in ny and most of europe. the booze volume is insane. madrilenos regularly stay out until 6 on a weeknight. people are well styled and attractive.
Date: January 28th, 2008 7:37 PM Author: Doobsian Talented Persian
No, no, and no. At least not in my opinion :)
I found them the least stylish, least gregarious, least cultured Mediterranean major city dwellers.
They saty out late, sure --but they are not particularly festive or boisterous. They're horribly quiet(for Meds, that is). To suggest that the nightlife surpasses NY's is laughable, really.
Date: January 28th, 2008 7:50 PM Author: Misanthropic Field Stain
I love italy and the people and the food, but thats right re nightlife.
srsly if you dont think madrid nights are the best in the world you probably werent at the right places. its roughly 10-12 pregaming with friends, 12 until 2 or 4 at some bars, and no one shows up at a club before 2.
Date: January 28th, 2008 9:49 PM Author: Sticky Navy Library Regret
just because tourists are too dumb to go anywhere other than campo dei fiori and, to a lesser extent, trastevere doesn't mean rome has a shitty nightlife. testaccio/ostiense are where it's at
Date: January 28th, 2008 7:28 PM Author: Doobsian Talented Persian
Yup. It makes most Mexican cities look clean and developed. However, the bay and mountains are beautiful --very reminiscent of SF...and the Amalfi Coast/Capri are right there.
Date: January 28th, 2008 7:39 PM Author: vigorous lay voyeur
Brno? What the hell? He said major cities in Europe, not in the Czech Republic. I'm pretty sure that most people don't even know that place exists, let alone would put it down as a possible destination for a Eurotrip.
Date: January 28th, 2008 8:01 PM Author: Cerebral base filthpig
Yes, it has a pretty downtown. But the people are surly, the women are overrated, the food is fucking awful and for all the hype the beer doesn't even compare to belgium, germany etc.
Date: January 28th, 2008 7:58 PM Author: Misanthropic Field Stain
I'm sure there are, but I didnt see any on any of my misfortunate trips into the underground. I do know they killed all the rabid dogs after one bit a japanaman.
I think its cleaned itself up quite a bit recently, although I'm sure the orphanages are abysmal.
Date: January 28th, 2008 8:13 PM Author: White Exciting Mood
London. the architecture is ugly and delapidated and the people are ugly and poor. it looks like brooklyn but everything costs 3x as much. also any modern city that embraces a monarchy is TTT. also "lady di" was a vapid arab-fucking whore.
Date: January 28th, 2008 9:00 PM Author: rose stirring church
Hey, come on.
London isn't the prettiest city, but it has some of the best architecture in the western world. The mix of Georgian, Victorian, and Edwardian buildings all throughout central London is very handsome and attractive, and I find London a much more pleasurable city on the eye than New York. The latter is decidedly more awe-inspiring, I will concede.
And no, London doesn't look like Brooklyn, not at all.
Want to rule out any Spanish, Dutch, Danish, Swedish, Norwegian, and Belgian cities?
I like the royal aspect to British culture. It provides an undeniable stamp of personality and history that's missing from many other cultures. London without the royals would be unthinkable.
Milan is one of the most TTT places on the planet. It is ugly, dirty and deserted after working hours. Also it is not that big and virtually devoid of anything worth seeing and pretty architecture. Unless you are there for a fashion event, it is killself territory. "See you at Just Cavali, bissous!" More like fucking killself, god I hate that city.
Date: January 28th, 2008 9:03 PM Author: rose stirring church
It's a good place to live.
It's good representative of a generic European city with all the bits there. The quaint historic square, a couple palaces, some baroque buildings, some Victorian monstrosities, and some modern towers.
Date: January 28th, 2008 9:10 PM Author: rose stirring church
Cold and dark. The sun doesn't exist between November and March. As a working person, the only time you will be outside while it's light are on the weekends.
As others have said, Naples and Milan are pretty crappy, but in completely different ways. Torino is also boring. Prague is overrated, Marseilles is a toilet, obviously
Date: January 28th, 2008 11:28 PM Author: wonderful ratface state
To all the TTTSEF: frankfurt is not a tourist city and it has no pretentions to be. Its a commerce city but it isn't fucking NY. It is what it is. It is def not the shittiest city in europe.