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Help NYU 2.9 pick firms to bid on for eiw (list inside)
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Date: May 17th, 2008 2:32 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster Ok, here's the list of firms coming to see 3Ls. As you can see, most of these are either way out of my league or patent firms. Which of these could I get a callback at? I have a little over a 3.0 now. I had a 3.2 last semester. I expect about a 3.0 this semester.
Arnold & Porter LLP (Los Angeles, CA) Arnold & Porter LLP (Washington, DC) Baker & McKenzie, LLP (Palo Alto, California) Beveridge & Diamond, P.C. (San Francisco, CA) Beveridge & Diamond, P.C. (Washington, DC) Boies, Schiller & Flexner LLP (Albany, NY) Boies, Schiller & Flexner LLP (Armonk, NY) Boies, Schiller & Flexner LLP (Corporate Department, NYC) Boies, Schiller & Flexner LLP (Ft. Lauderdale, FL) Boies, Schiller & Flexner LLP (Hanover, NH) Boies, Schiller & Flexner LLP (Hollywood, FL) Boies, Schiller & Flexner LLP (Miami, FL) Boies, Schiller & Flexner LLP (New York, NY) Boies, Schiller & Flexner LLP (Oakland, CA) Boies, Schiller & Flexner LLP (Orlando, FL) Boies, Schiller & Flexner LLP (Washington, DC) Cahill Gordon & Reindel LLP (New York, NY) Cleary Gottlieb Steen & Hamilton LLP (International Offices) Cleary Gottlieb Steen & Hamilton LLP (New York, NY) Cleary Gottlieb Steen & Hamilton LLP (Washington, DC) Clifford Chance US LLP (New York, NY) Cooley Godward LLP (New York, NY) Cooley Godward LLP (Palo Alto, CA) Covington & Burling (New York, NY) Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP (New York, NY) Curtis, Mallet-Prevost, Colt & Mosle LLP (New York, NY) Darby & Darby (New York, NY) Davis Polk & Wardwell (Menlo Park, CA) Davis Polk & Wardwell (New York, NY) Debevoise & Plimpton LLP (London UNITED KINGDOM) Debevoise & Plimpton LLP (New York, NY) Debevoise & Plimpton LLP (Washington, DC) Dechert LLP (Austin, TX) Dechert LLP (Boston, MA) Dechert LLP (London, UNITED KINGDOM) Dechert LLP (New York, NY) Dechert LLP (Philadelphia, PA) Dechert LLP (Silicon Valley, CA) Dechert LLP (Washington, DC) Deloitte (New York) DLA Piper Singapore Pte Ltd Ernst & Young (New York, NY) Faegre & Benson LLP (Boulder, CO) Faegre & Benson LLP (Denver, CO) Faegre & Benson LLP (Des Moines, IA) Faegre & Benson LLP (Minneapolis, MN) Federal Reserve Board (Washington, DC) Fenwick & West LLP (Mountain View, CA) Finnegan, Henderson, Farabow, Garrett & Dunner, L.L.P. (Washington, DC) Fitzpatrick, Cella, Harper & Scinto (New York, NY) Foley & Lardner LLP (New York, NY) Foley Hoag LLP (Boston, MA) Fried, Frank, Harris, Shriver & Jacobson LLP (Washington, DC) Frommer, Lawrence & Haug, L.L.P. (New York, NY) Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher LLP (Dallas, TX) Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher LLP (Denver, CO) Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher LLP (Los Angeles, CA) Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher LLP (New York, NY) Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher LLP (Orange County, CA) Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher LLP (San Francisco, CA) Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher LLP (Washington, DC) Gide Loyrette Nouel (New York, NY) Goodwin Procter LLP (Washington, DC) Goodwin Procter LLP - IP Department (New York, NY) Goulston & Storrs, P.C. (Boston, MA) Greenbaum, Rowe, Smith & Davis LLP (Iselin, NJ) Gunderson Dettmer Stough Villeneuve Franklin & Hachigian, LLP (Menlo Park, CA) Hodgson Russ LLP (Buffalo, NY) Howard Rice Nemerovski Canady Falk & Rabkin, PC (San Francisco, CA) Irell & Manella LLP (Newport Beach, CA) Ivins, Phillips & Barker (Washington, DC) Kasowitz, Benson, Torres & Friedman LLP (New York, NY) Kirkland & Ellis LLP (San Francisco, CA) Kirkland & Ellis LLP (Washington, DC) Knobbe, Martens, Olson & Bear, LLP (Irvine, CA) Kostelanetz & Fink LLP (New York, New York) Latham & Watkins LLP (Chicago, IL) Latham & Watkins LLP (Costa Mesa, CA) Latham & Watkins LLP (London UNITED KINGDOM) Latham & Watkins LLP (Los Angeles, CA) Latham & Watkins LLP (Menlo Park, CA) Latham & Watkins LLP (New York, NY) Latham & Watkins LLP (Newark, NJ) Latham & Watkins LLP (San Diego, CA) Latham & Watkins LLP (San Francisco, CA) Latham & Watkins LLP (Washington, DC) Linklaters (New York, NY) Littler Mendelson, P.C. (San Francisco, CA) Loeb & Loeb LLP (New York, NY) Lowenstein Sandler PC (Roseland, NJ) McKee Nelson LLP (New York, NY) McKinsey & Company, Inc. (New York, NY) Morgan, Lewis & Bockius LLP (New York, NY) Morvillo, Abramowitz, Grand, Iason, Anello & Bohrer, PC (New York, NY) Norton Rose (London UNITED KINGDOM) Orrick, Herrington & Sutcliffe LLP (New York, NY) Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP (Hong Kong HONG KONG) Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP (New York, NY) Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP (Washington, DC) Perkins Coie LLP (Menlo Park, CA) Perkins Coie LLP (Phoenix, AZ) Quinn Emanuel Urquhart Oliver & Hedges, LLP (Los Angeles, CA) Quinn Emanuel Urquhart Oliver & Hedges, LLP (New York, NY) Quinn Emanuel Urquhart Oliver & Hedges, LLP (San Francisco, CA) Quinn Emanuel Urquhart Oliver & Hedges, LLP (Silicon Valley, CA) Roberts & Holland LLP (New York, NY) Ropes & Gray LLP (Boston, MA) Ropes & Gray LLP (New York) Ropes & Gray LLP (Palo Alto, CA) Ropes & Gray LLP (San Francisco, CA) Ropes & Gray LLP (Washington, DC) Satterlee Stephens Burke & Burke LLP (New York, NY) Shartsis Friese LLP (San Francisco, CA) Shipman & Goodwin LLP (Hartford, CT) Sidley Austin LLP (Los Angeles, CA) Sills Cummis Epstein & Gross P.C. (Newark, NJ) Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLP (Los Angeles, CA) Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLP (New York, NY) Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLP (Palo Alto, CA) Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom LLP (Bay Area, CA ) Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom LLP (Boston, MA) Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom LLP (Hong Kong HONG KONG) Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom LLP (Los Angeles, CA) Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom LLP (New York, NY) Steptoe & Johnson LLP (Washington, DC) Sullivan & Cromwell LLP (Asia Offices) Sullivan & Cromwell LLP (London UNITED KINGDOM) Sullivan & Cromwell LLP (Los Angeles, CA) Sullivan & Cromwell LLP (New York, NY) Sullivan & Cromwell LLP (Palo Alto, CA) Sullivan & Cromwell LLP (Washington, DC) Susman Godfrey LLP (Houston, TX) Sutherland (Washington, DC) Sutherland Asbill & Brennan LLP (New York, NY) Thompson Hine LLP (Cleveland, OH) U.S. Department of State, Office of the Legal Adviser (Washington, DC) U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (Washington, DC) Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz (New York, NY) Weil, Gotshal & Manges LLP (Redwood Shores, CA) Wiggin and Dana LLP (New Haven, CT) Williams & Connolly (Washington, DC) Willkie Farr & Gallagher LLP (Washington, DC) WilmerHale LLP (Boston, MA) Wilson Sonsini Goodrich & Rosati (New York, NY) Wilson Sonsini Goodrich & Rosati (Palo Alto, CA) Woodcock Washburn LLP (Philadelphia, PA) Young Conaway Stargatt & Taylor, LLP (Wilmington, DE) |
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Date: May 17th, 2008 3:22 PM Author: Mischievous swashbuckling doctorate dilemma gross old man (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9796561) |
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Date: May 17th, 2008 3:22 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster suggestions? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9796565) |
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Date: May 17th, 2008 3:27 PM Author: Mischievous swashbuckling doctorate dilemma bid on a job with gross old man (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9796578) |
Date: May 17th, 2008 3:13 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster Here's the list when I take out firms I have no shot at, everything in DC, non law firms and IP firms that I know of
Baker & McKenzie, LLP (Palo Alto, California) Beveridge & Diamond, P.C. (San Francisco, CA)
Cahill Gordon & Reindel LLP (New York, NY)
Clifford Chance US LLP (New York, NY) Cooley Godward LLP (New York, NY) Cooley Godward LLP (Palo Alto, CA)
Curtis, Mallet-Prevost, Colt & Mosle LLP (New York, NY)
Dechert LLP (Austin, TX) Dechert LLP (Boston, MA) Dechert LLP (London, UNITED KINGDOM) Dechert LLP (New York, NY) Dechert LLP (Philadelphia, PA) Dechert LLP (Silicon Valley, CA) Dechert LLP (Washington, DC) Faegre & Benson LLP (Boulder, CO) Faegre & Benson LLP (Denver, CO) Faegre & Benson LLP (Des Moines, IA) Faegre & Benson LLP (Minneapolis, MN) Fenwick & West LLP (Mountain View, CA)
Foley & Lardner LLP (New York, NY) Foley Hoag LLP (Boston, MA)
Gide Loyrette Nouel (New York, NY) Goulston & Storrs, P.C. (Boston, MA) Greenbaum, Rowe, Smith & Davis LLP (Iselin, NJ) Gunderson Dettmer Stough Villeneuve Franklin & Hachigian, LLP (Menlo Park, CA) Hodgson Russ LLP (Buffalo, NY)
Kasowitz, Benson, Torres & Friedman LLP (New York, NY)
Kostelanetz & Fink LLP (New York, New York)
Linklaters (New York, NY) Loeb & Loeb LLP (New York, NY) Lowenstein Sandler PC (Roseland, NJ) McKee Nelson LLP (New York, NY) Morgan, Lewis & Bockius LLP (New York, NY) Morvillo, Abramowitz, Grand, Iason, Anello & Bohrer, PC (New York, NY) Norton Rose (London UNITED KINGDOM) Orrick, Herrington & Sutcliffe LLP (New York, NY)
Perkins Coie LLP (Menlo Park, CA) Perkins Coie LLP (Phoenix, AZ)
Roberts & Holland LLP (New York, NY) Ropes & Gray LLP (Boston, MA)
Ropes & Gray LLP (New York)
Ropes & Gray LLP (Palo Alto, CA)
Ropes & Gray LLP (San Francisco, CA) Satterlee Stephens Burke & Burke LLP (New York, NY) Shartsis Friese LLP (San Francisco, CA) Shipman & Goodwin LLP (Hartford, CT) Sidley Austin LLP (Los Angeles, CA) Sills Cummis Epstein & Gross P.C. (Newark, NJ)
Sutherland Asbill & Brennan LLP (New York, NY) Thompson Hine LLP (Cleveland, OH)
Wiggin and Dana LLP (New Haven, CT) WilmerHale LLP (Boston, MA) Wilson Sonsini Goodrich & Rosati (New York, NY) Wilson Sonsini Goodrich & Rosati (Palo Alto, CA) Young Conaway Stargatt & Taylor, LLP (Wilmington, DE) |
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Date: May 17th, 2008 3:32 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster Here's the list when I take out firms I have no shot at, everything in DC, non law firms and IP firms that I know of AND firms that plan on interviewing only 5 or fewer 3Ls
Baker & McKenzie, LLP (Palo Alto, California) Beveridge & Diamond, P.C. (San Francisco, CA)
Cahill Gordon & Reindel LLP (New York, NY)
Cooley Godward LLP (New York, NY) Cooley Godward LLP (Palo Alto, CA)
Curtis, Mallet-Prevost, Colt & Mosle LLP (New York, NY)
Dechert LLP (Austin, TX) Dechert LLP (Boston, MA) Dechert LLP (London, UNITED KINGDOM) Dechert LLP (New York, NY)
Foley & Lardner LLP (New York, NY)
Gide Loyrette Nouel (New York, NY)
Kostelanetz & Fink LLP (New York, New York) Loeb & Loeb LLP (New York, NY)
McKee Nelson LLP (New York, NY) Morgan, Lewis & Bockius LLP (New York, NY)
Orrick, Herrington & Sutcliffe LLP (New York, NY)
Roberts & Holland LLP (New York, NY)
Satterlee Stephens Burke & Burke LLP (New York, NY) Sutherland Asbill & Brennan LLP (New York, NY) Wilson Sonsini Goodrich & Rosati (New York, NY) WilmerHale LLP (Boston, MA)
Young Conaway Stargatt & Taylor, LLP (Wilmington, DE) |
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Date: May 17th, 2008 3:45 PM Author: razzle-dazzle mental disorder i don't think you have a real shot at: wilson sonsini - palo alto susman godfrey norton rose linklaters fenwick west clifford chance
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Date: May 17th, 2008 3:51 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster alright, edited (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9796654) |
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Date: May 18th, 2008 2:47 PM Author: Cyan aromatic site ceo i think wilson - palo alto should go back in (especially if you have a remotely technical UG major). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9799483) |
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Date: May 18th, 2008 2:48 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster It's remotely technical but doesn't qualify me for the patent bar (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9799487) |
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Date: May 18th, 2008 2:50 PM Author: Cyan aromatic site ceo that's fine. i know people working there with very mediocre grades who aren't going to do patent prosecution.
the patent bar is only relevant for patent prosecution, and that doesn't make any money at most big firms (exceptions are fish & richardson, finnegan henderson) so don't overestimate its importance.
EDIT: i don't know much about fenwick, but i don't think it's particularly selective. |
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Date: May 18th, 2008 2:53 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster So I just need to express an interest in patent lit? I'll give it a shot. I'm pretty close to being able to qualify for the patent bar. My megaback up would be to qualify for it after law school. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9799500) |
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Date: May 18th, 2008 2:54 PM Author: Cyan aromatic site ceo patent lit, or just corporate work. they work with technology companies and like people who might plausibly understand something about technology. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9799503) |
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Date: May 18th, 2008 3:13 PM Author: Cyan aromatic site ceo how many classes do you need for the patent bar? if there's any way to qualify before graduating law school you should try to do it (working off the assumption that you strike out at 3l eiw).
i'm not sure what you ended up deciding to do this summer, but if you could work out a way to take some of the classes you need i would definitely do it. |
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Date: May 18th, 2008 3:17 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster 3
I don't think I can take any classes this summer. I've looked at the local universities and their offerings in this area are not advanced enough for me to get credit for them. |
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Date: May 18th, 2008 3:19 PM Author: Cyan aromatic site ceo well i'd still see if you could work something out when you're a 3l. e.g., you could do directed research for a couple of credits this summer to free up some schedule space, there's a "winter term" that might have something? i'm just saying, it might be worth getting creative. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9799542) |
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Date: May 18th, 2008 3:21 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster hmmm
well i'm not in new york this summer. But the UG credits dont count toward my limit, so technically I could take them. A full law school load with a half load of science sounds really tough though |
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Date: May 18th, 2008 3:25 PM Author: Cyan aromatic site ceo as far as directed research, it wouldn't necessarily matter where you are as long as you could get it set up in time.
agree that you don't want to over-burden yourself since you struggle with the law school classes as it is. still, it seems reasonable to assume that you won't get a job through eiw and it'd still be better, e.g., to be 1 course short at graduation than 3. |
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Date: May 18th, 2008 3:34 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster yeah. It would be great if I could tell firms that I could qualify for the patent bar by graduation. the only other problem is that while my college grades are pretty good, I have like 10 Ws, mostly from the last two semesters I was there (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9799600) |
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Date: May 18th, 2008 3:36 PM Author: Cyan aromatic site ceo mmm yeah that won't help. whatever else you decide to do, definitely bid all 50 of your spots (and pick up extra interviews during EIW if you can). good luck. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9799609) |
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Date: May 18th, 2008 3:36 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster ok thanks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9799617) |
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Date: May 18th, 2008 2:37 PM Author: Cyan aromatic site ceo no shot at Howard Rice.
i think Roberts & Holland is a tax boutique so you probably shouldn't bother with them either.
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Date: May 18th, 2008 2:45 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster ok. i'll leave r&h on there since I have some tax classes, unless you know that they are selective (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9799480) |
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Date: May 18th, 2008 2:48 PM Author: Cyan aromatic site ceo i looked at a smattering of their associate bios and they all seemed pretty good. (or they had tax llms).
not saying you should necessarily take them off, but i wouldn't bid them high. |
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Date: May 18th, 2008 2:50 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster ok (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9799494) |
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Date: May 18th, 2008 2:56 PM Author: Cyan aromatic site ceo you should put gunderson back on your list. they're no longer in a position to be selective. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9799506) |
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Date: May 18th, 2008 2:58 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster what's the story with them? I'll put them back, although they are only interviewing 2 or 3 3Ls (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9799512) |
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Date: May 18th, 2008 3:01 PM Author: Cyan aromatic site ceo they do primarily venture capital work and were high-flying during the internet boom (first to raise to 125k). they ended up laying off like half their attorneys but they keep plodding along.
what's important, though, is that VC funding work is even more repetitive and stupid than other corporate stuff and they know it. so i think it's a place where the nyu counts more than the 2.9. |
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Date: May 18th, 2008 3:04 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster ok (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9799521) |
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Date: May 17th, 2008 5:56 PM Author: mind-boggling soggy partner plaza LOL @ SUSMAN GODFREY on ur list! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9797050) |
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Date: May 17th, 2008 6:09 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster calm down champ. I was just deleting off the master list (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9797102) |
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Date: May 18th, 2008 2:53 PM Author: Cyan aromatic site ceo why'd you take off Ropes & Gray? i think they're less selective than some others on your list (e.g., WilmerHale). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9799501) |
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Date: May 18th, 2008 2:56 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster I dont know. I thought they were selective. I dont have a good idea of who is selective and who isn't beyond the obvious candidates. Do you think I have a shot at any of their offices? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9799505) |
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Date: May 18th, 2008 2:58 PM Author: Cyan aromatic site ceo i don't have a great feel for them, but i don't think they're super-selective at least. they've got really big offices in boston and nyc so i'd bid those. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9799513) |
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Date: May 17th, 2008 3:24 PM Author: pearly bearded bawdyhouse jap you might have a shot at one of the unselective litigation sweatshops like skadden or PW. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9796569) |
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Date: May 17th, 2008 3:27 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster I don't think so
You gotta have at least a 3.3 for those firms as a 2L I think |
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Date: May 17th, 2008 3:29 PM Author: pearly bearded bawdyhouse jap i know people with 3.1s and 3.2s at pw. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9796583) |
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Date: May 17th, 2008 3:34 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster so I should bid them?
I have less than a 3.1, under 3.0 1L, no 2L firm job, and I'm interviewing as a 3L |
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Date: May 17th, 2008 3:46 PM Author: razzle-dazzle mental disorder no, obviously don't waste a bid on 3L skadden/PW. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9796643) |
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Date: May 17th, 2008 3:47 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster yeah I wasn't going to. the least selective firms at 2L eiw do not come to 3L eiw. there is no cadwalader, stroock, hughes hubbard, and so forth. like over half the firms are pretty selective (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9796647) |
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Date: May 17th, 2008 4:07 PM Author: razzle-dazzle mental disorder call ("my name is nyu 2.9, student from NYU law. is CWT accepting resumes for full time positions, despite not being on EIW") and then send resumes to these firms regardless. also hit up jones day nyc, chadborne park nyc, baker mck nyc, DLA nyc, etc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9796698) |
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Date: May 17th, 2008 4:10 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster Thanks. I'm going to do a resume spam. I improved a lot over first year, and I even got one A. Hopefully I can get something. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9796708) |
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Date: May 18th, 2008 2:39 PM Author: Cyan aromatic site ceo was the A in a curved class?
also, definitely spam the amlaw200 in nyc |
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Date: May 18th, 2008 2:44 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster no (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9799477) |
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Date: May 17th, 2008 3:31 PM Author: Mahogany Rigpig Woodcock Washburn is an IP boutique, so cross that off. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9796589) |
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Date: May 17th, 2008 3:32 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster ok, thanks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9796595) |
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Date: May 17th, 2008 3:44 PM Author: Mahogany Rigpig Why did you take Dechert - Philly off your list? It may be your best shot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9796635) |
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Date: May 17th, 2008 3:46 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster I went through on the most recent list and removed every firm planning on interviewing 5 or fewer 3Ls.
The theory being that if they only want to interview 5 3Ls or fewer they're going to be somewhat selective |
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Date: May 17th, 2008 3:48 PM Author: Mahogany Rigpig Gotcha, in general they aren't that selective. It is usually populated with top students at Temple/Villanova, bad students from Penn, and a spattering of good T14 students who want to work in Philly. Take that for what it is worth. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9796648) |
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Date: May 17th, 2008 3:50 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster Yeah, but as a 3L they have to be looking for people who are decent students and want to live in philly. they aren't looking to add much to their class if they are only interviewing 5 people.
as a 2L I had an impossible time getting interviews with pretty crappy firms in markets where I had lived my whole life. |
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Date: May 17th, 2008 3:54 PM Author: Mahogany Rigpig You might want to give McKee Nelson a shot and say you want to do securities litigation. Even though they laid some people off in structured finance, they've been hiring a bunch of 1L's because they need help in litigation badly. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9796659) |
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Date: May 17th, 2008 3:55 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster ok, thats good to know. thanks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9796667) |
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Date: May 18th, 2008 2:42 PM Author: Cyan aromatic site ceo you may be right that they'd like to be selective, but i would add these back in if you still have slots since they might not be able to be selective. or maybe you'll get super lucky and they'll have a bunch of SAs not accept offers and they'll need a lot of people and won't have a big pool to select from. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9799476) |
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Date: May 18th, 2008 2:47 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster ok (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9799482) |
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Date: May 17th, 2008 3:55 PM Author: Thriller reading party Why waste time dude? Not gonna happen. Not IN THIS ECONOMY. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9796666) |
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Date: May 17th, 2008 3:56 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster gotta do something (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9796668) |
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Date: May 17th, 2008 3:57 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster I'm definitely not going to bother with the big 4, but I might bid McKinsey and see if I can impress them with my manhole counting skills. they have a lot of spots (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9796673) |
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Date: May 17th, 2008 4:09 PM Author: razzle-dazzle mental disorder i assume big 4 refers to accounting? i would suspect that you have absolutely 0 chance at mckinsey with anything sub 3.5 from NYU (as in, if you can't get sullcrom, let alone weil, you won't get mckinsey). if your undergraduate GPA is decent, then maybe the consulting firms could panout. also look at bain, booz, BCG, and other consulting firms. they might also be more willing to look past your 2L summer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9796704) |
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Date: May 17th, 2008 4:14 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster Yeah, accounting firms totally blow. I can get something starting at 50-60k through martindale.
My UG gpa is decent in a major everyone respects.
If I bid McKinsey, it would be like 50th out of 50. they are going to interview like 30 3Ls so I would still probably get an interview...I don't think there's any law firm or government legal job I can bid at 50 and get an interview, so there's no loss
Those other firms don't come to NYU, but it wouldn't hurt to send them a cover letter/resume |
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Date: May 17th, 2008 5:27 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster Good input so far, thanks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9796939) |
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Date: May 18th, 2008 2:33 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9799462) |
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Date: May 18th, 2008 2:58 PM Author: Rose out-of-control prole What is the median at NYU? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9799511) |
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Date: May 18th, 2008 2:58 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster around a 3.1, a little higher I think. (after 1l) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9799514) |
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Date: May 19th, 2008 6:28 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9805737) |
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Date: May 19th, 2008 8:33 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9806440) |
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Date: May 19th, 2008 9:24 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9806658) |
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Date: May 19th, 2008 10:21 PM Author: mauve messiness windowlicker Talk to OCS and have them map out a plan for you! You can get a biglaw job if you want one. Many NYU people with lower grades than yours are working at V100 firms. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9806935) |
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Date: May 20th, 2008 5:24 AM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster I talked to ocs.
Their plan: Do exactly what I did last year, except this time send out fewer resumes, and send some to small law firms through martindale.
Like last year when they told me it was fine to skip 2L eiw, they didn't even suggest 3L eiw, and when I brought it up their attitude was basically that it wouldn't matter much if I went or not. So I guess I'm a little disappointed that they haven't really had more advice for me. |
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Date: May 20th, 2008 9:08 PM Author: clear kitty That advice is terrible. Take it from me; I'm basically your CLS counterpart. I have 3 B-'s, which I think is approaching some sort of record. The only difference is that after 50 fucking screening interviews, I managed to get a single offer from a Vault firm.
Send out as many resumes as you can. You can try small firms, but they are almost invariably a waste of time. They are looking to hire maybe one person, and aren't likely to bother with somebody from the bottom of the class. They might seem less selective, but really, they aren't. It's easier to be the *last* NYU student Cadwallader takes than the *only* NYU student some tiny firm takes.
Apply to every big firm out there. If they're not at EIW, send a resume anyway. Who fucking cares? What do you have to lose? You don't need a "strategy," you need a shotgun. GL, friend. |
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Date: May 20th, 2008 9:13 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster thanks man. last time I sent out almost 400 resumes. Hope I have better luck this time. OCS tells us to expect around 10 screening interviews from 50 bids as a 3L.
3 B-s at cls is worse than 1 from nyu I think, what are the rest of your grades like? |
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Date: May 20th, 2008 9:29 PM Author: clear kitty Most of my other grades are Bs and B+s. I probably have around a 3.15 overall now (I'm graduating this week). As a 1L, though, I had about a 2.85. I knew two people whose grades were almost as bad as mine (including someone who actually got a C) and neither of them got a biglaw job because they weren't willing to do every goddamn interview they could. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9811024) |
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Date: May 20th, 2008 9:38 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster I'm probably fucked because I didn't interview as a 2L. What happened to those people? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9811041) |
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Date: May 20th, 2008 9:45 PM Author: clear kitty One of them is still looking. She had some PI job last summer. The other one got a job with a midlaw firm in Seattle (where he's from). I think he's going to stay there.
I really can't believe they told you it was fine to skip EIW. That's staggering incompetence on their part. |
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Date: May 20th, 2008 9:55 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster Yeah, at least I know better this time. But there's a huge difference this time around. Only 140 firms come for the 3Ls, and the bulk of them are either like cravath, patent firms, or are interviewing only like 3 3Ls. Other than Dechert NY I don't think there is a single reasonable firm for me that is interviewing more than 20 3Ls.
With only about 10 screening interviews, it's going to be a real stretch to get anything. |
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Date: May 20th, 2008 10:14 PM Author: clear kitty You should still contact the firms you bid on but don't get to see if you can arrange an interview. And stop by their hospitality suites or whatever. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9811181) |
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Date: May 21st, 2008 12:03 AM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster Yeah, I'll be doing a lot of resume drops and visiting hospitality suites as well as sending resumes to nyu grads and asking for an interview (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9811358) |
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Date: May 20th, 2008 10:02 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster I was very, very close to taking a leave of absence 2nd semester just so I could do 2L eiw (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9811140) |
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Date: May 20th, 2008 1:30 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9809660) |
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Date: May 20th, 2008 6:19 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9810618) |
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Date: May 20th, 2008 8:26 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9810887) |
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Date: May 21st, 2008 2:01 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9813004) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2008 3:10 AM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9815634) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2008 2:30 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9817306) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2008 1:59 AM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster Which firms do you guys think I have the greatest chance at and should bid the highest? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9819230) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2008 2:00 AM Author: spectacular nighttime box office obsessing over this isn't going to help...make a reasonable list, do your fucking research before going in, make sure you are well dressed and well coiffed, and try to come up with a good explanation should a firm ask you about x grade in x class (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9819239) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2008 2:08 AM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster I'm not obsessing, I just want to get as many opinions as possible. No one really knows about all these firms (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9819264) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2008 2:23 AM Author: spectacular nighttime box office vault+nalp+chambers+infirmation.com+xoxo searches for past threads will generally give you enough info about the kind of things you should emphasize during your interviews. since you are an nyu dude you can also use the packet OCS has on its website (I believe) with all of the reports from past SAs--there are often details in there about particular training programs, practice areas, firm culture, etc that can help. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9819305) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2008 2:26 AM Author: spectacular nighttime box office also, wilmerhale boston and foley hoag boston are probably no go's---roberts and holland is going to be tough as well. VERY small firm--i know you have taken some tax courses, but, to repeat what a previous poster said, bid them low--those kinds of boutiques are very particular about what they are looking for (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9819316) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2008 2:45 AM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster as is I don't even have 50 firms to bid (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9819383) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2008 2:39 PM Author: Cyan aromatic site ceo you should fill in your 50 with really big firms that are reaches (even if big reaches) like debevoise, cleary, etc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9820726) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2008 3:43 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster Wouldn't it be better to spend the bids on like faegre des moines or whatever? like cleary and debevoise wont even look at people with less than a 3.3 (or whatever it is) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9820856) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2008 2:44 AM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster Yeah, all of that is good, but since OCS wont give me any guidance on the relative selectivity and neither do any of those sources I am forced to ask. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9819380) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2008 1:06 PM Author: spectacular nighttime box office OCS really sucks...its a good thing their job is done for them by virtue of the fact that they work at NYU (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9820422) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2008 2:06 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster They are fine for the average student. If you notice, 90% of what they do is just standardizing things. They want everyone's resume to look exactly the same. They give everyone pretty much the same advice.
They are horrible if you have bad grades, or if you want to do something other than work for a big firm. |
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Date: May 23rd, 2008 1:45 PM Author: charismatic theater stage pervert The problem with your edited list is that it is filled only with either very very small firms or NY branch offices of mid-ranged Vault firms in the V40-50 range that I am guessing only take on 20-30 summers. I assume that the list is of only firms visiting NYU for 3L's.
If I were you, I would instead mass mail vault firms in NY that take on TONS of summers. Who knows, some random large vault firm may need a new associate to help with some God-awful doc review project or something. Luckily you go to NYU and the firm can at leats justify their decision given your school's ranking. |
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Date: May 23rd, 2008 2:03 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster Yeah, these are only firms coming to NYU. I am going to do a mass mailing of every nalp firm in new york, chicago, and half a dozen other cities at least.
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Date: June 2nd, 2008 1:46 AM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster hello (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9850830) |
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Date: June 14th, 2008 7:02 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster hello world (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9891305) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2008 6:30 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster Bump for impending deadline (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9939338) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2008 6:31 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster Bump for impending deadline (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9939341) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2008 6:36 PM Author: Cyan aromatic site ceo what more do you want? post your current bid order. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9939352) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2008 6:41 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster I dont have a bid order.
I'm looking for suggestions. |
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Date: July 2nd, 2008 6:44 PM Author: Cyan aromatic site ceo you've gotten plenty. if you come up with a ranking and post it, i'll review it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9939381) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2008 6:44 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster Baker & McKenzie, LLP (Palo Alto, California)
Beveridge & Diamond, P.C. (San Francisco, CA)
Cahill Gordon & Reindel LLP (New York, NY)
Cooley Godward LLP (New York, NY)
Cooley Godward LLP (Palo Alto, CA)
Curtis, Mallet-Prevost, Colt & Mosle LLP (New York, NY)
Dechert LLP (Austin, TX)
Dechert LLP (Boston, MA)
Dechert LLP (London, UNITED KINGDOM)
Dechert LLP (New York, NY)
Foley & Lardner LLP (New York, NY)
Gide Loyrette Nouel (New York, NY)
Kostelanetz & Fink LLP (New York, New York)
Loeb & Loeb LLP (New York, NY)
McKee Nelson LLP (New York, NY)
Morgan, Lewis & Bockius LLP (New York, NY)
Orrick, Herrington & Sutcliffe LLP (New York, NY)
Roberts & Holland LLP (New York, NY)
Satterlee Stephens Burke & Burke LLP (New York, NY)
Sutherland Asbill & Brennan LLP (New York, NY)
Wilson Sonsini Goodrich & Rosati (New York, NY)
WilmerHale LLP (Boston, MA)
Young Conaway Stargatt & Taylor, LLP (Wilmington, DE)
probably these firms in some order. I'm looking for suggestions on the order |
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Date: July 2nd, 2008 6:58 PM Author: Cyan aromatic site ceo don't you have 40 or 50 slots? fill them all. i don't care if you have to put wachtell in there to do it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9939431) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2008 7:02 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster Yeah, I know, it's the order I'm concerned about. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9939455) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2008 7:04 PM Author: Cyan aromatic site ceo ok. well if you come up with an ordered list from 1-40 i will critique it. i'm not going to do it for you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9939461) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2008 7:05 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster Are you going to be here tomorrow? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9939466) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2008 7:12 PM Author: Cyan aromatic site ceo probably at some point
EDIT: when you post your list, please include the total number of 3l interview spots for each firm, since ranking is a combination of fit (i.e., shitty firms ranked high) and just plain gaming (you can rank firms with a ton of spots lower).
it's apparent that this is going to be an ugly fucking interview season. i bet it'll be much worse than last year. |
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Date: July 2nd, 2008 7:16 PM Author: Chestnut frisky abode "more like 2003-4"
firms are lowering their schedules at various schools as days go by |
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Date: July 2nd, 2008 7:18 PM Author: Cyan aromatic site ceo really? i believe this i just wonder if you have data you can link to. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9939517) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2008 7:22 PM Author: Chestnut frisky abode verbatim from career services @ my TTT17, today. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9939532) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2008 7:18 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster *prepares to spend a year after law school finishing technical degree and qualifying for the patent bar* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9939519) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2008 7:25 PM Author: Cyan aromatic site ceo i can't remember all of your circumstances, but are you going to apply for government stuff, too? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9939540) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2008 7:39 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster Sure, why not
although you can defer loans so long as you are in school, so it's not that big of deal for me to go back and take the 6 classes I need for the degree or whatever. People seem to think that makes it a lot easier to get a firm job |
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Date: July 2nd, 2008 7:41 PM Author: Cyan aromatic site ceo true, but you'd be doing it differently than most people. i think it's not a bad idea, but still one with lots of risk. presumably you could go somewhere super cheap? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9939606) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2008 7:43 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster Yeah. So cheap I wouldn't even be taking extra loans. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9939610) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2008 7:16 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster ok (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9939513) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2008 7:25 PM Author: Doobsian supple shitlib tank Thought about bidding on FL, TX, or DE? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9939542) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2008 7:40 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster No florida firms, I think susman is the only tx firm, and only 1 DE firm and they are only interviewing like 6 people (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9939601) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2008 7:42 PM Author: Doobsian supple shitlib tank hmmm might also push for CA secondaries? Menlo park would be pretty baller?
what are you up to this summer? |
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Date: July 2nd, 2008 7:43 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster state government (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9939613) |
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Date: July 7th, 2008 8:05 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster What flavor of Dechert is the least selective? The NY office? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9952482) |
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Date: July 7th, 2008 8:36 PM Author: Cyan aromatic site ceo without knowing anything else, i think the usual rule of thumb is that offices in really shitty places (e.g., DE) are the least selective, followed by the offices in declining order of size. Exception: DC offices are almost always the most selective. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9952561) |
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Date: July 7th, 2008 9:07 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster I can only bid 1 of the Decherts, and the NY office has 20 slots vs. 4 for each of the other offices, so I think I'll bid the NY office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9952664) |
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Date: July 7th, 2008 9:12 PM Author: Cyan aromatic site ceo this sounds like a good choice. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9952684) |
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Date: July 7th, 2008 9:48 PM Author: ocher flirting becky Dechert Austin is a waste. It's an IP-heavy office, and, Austin offices are generally the most competitive in Texas (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9952792) |
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Date: July 7th, 2008 9:53 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster I am bidding it dead last. You get extra bids when you bid multiple offices for firms that allow only 1 interview, so it makes no sense not to bid all of the Decherts (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9952808) |
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Date: July 7th, 2008 10:01 PM Author: ocher flirting becky Why not on Beveridge & Diamond DC? Their other offices are small satellites, and they are pretty uncompetitive. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9952830) |
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Date: July 7th, 2008 10:09 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster I've got them on there already
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Date: July 7th, 2008 9:16 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster sutherland NY or atlanta? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9952700) |
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Date: July 7th, 2008 9:26 PM Author: charismatic theater stage pervert Unless you have a strong tie to ATL or other smaller markets, I would strongly suggest focusing all or almost all of your attention on NY (or any market you have a strong tie to). An atlanta firm is not going to give you the light of day unless you are from there, as absurd that may be and sound. Those firms are suspcious of outsiders -I would steer clear. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9952722) |
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Date: July 7th, 2008 9:30 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster alright. I'm guessing "I grew up only 300 miles away" doesn't cut it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9952736) |
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Date: July 7th, 2008 9:33 PM Author: charismatic theater stage pervert It may. If you are from, for example, South Carolina you can say "I want ATL because its in the south." - that could work. But if you are from suburban PA, for example, you are limited to Philly, NYC, DC.
I should have said have a tie to the greater region, unless you are in the northeast or California, where I would say have a tie to the city. |
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Date: July 7th, 2008 9:37 PM Author: Cyan aromatic site ceo i'd say lie as much as you want about that stuff.
also, i bet the paranoia is probably more focused on 2Ls. firms are worried you'll spend a summer there and not go back. since this would be a full-time thing, i bet they'd be less worried... |
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Date: July 7th, 2008 9:34 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster Is littler mendelson selective? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9952751) |
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Date: July 7th, 2008 10:14 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster filling up the last 4 or 5 spots:
which of these # = 3l slots
latham 23 norton rose 20 paul weiss 55 federal reserve board DC 7 Quinn NYC 34 skadden 20
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Date: July 7th, 2008 10:17 PM Author: Cyan aromatic site ceo you're only going to leave one of them off, right? i'd kill quinn or skadden. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9952871) |
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Date: July 7th, 2008 10:21 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster well, actually now I'm down to the last 3.
plus Clifford Chance 9 and Foley Hoag 2 I don't have on there yet
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Date: July 7th, 2008 10:30 PM Author: Cyan aromatic site ceo coin-flipping might make sense at this point.
the FRB, in particular, is tough. i think the feds tend to be less school-conscious and more grade-conscious, in general. but there are probably relatively few people bidding. |
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Date: July 7th, 2008 10:32 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster it's dc only. state dept also has 9 spots. I already bid the sec because they are hiring in a number of non-dc cities (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9952924) |
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Date: July 7th, 2008 10:33 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster ok, I'm cutting off Faegre Denver 2 and Faegre Boulder 2. I dont have any connections to CO and those seem pretty desirable (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9952927) |
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Date: July 7th, 2008 11:54 PM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster Ranking version 1. 60 of 60 slots. You get an extra slot if you bid on 2 offices of one firm that will only allow a single interview
1. Thompson Hine Cleveland 2 2. Faegre Benson Mpls 2 3. SEC DC, Chicago, blah blah blah 4 4. Foley Lardner all 5 5. Littler Mendelson all 6 6. Faegre des moines 2 *shares slots with mpls, denver, boulder 7. Baker palo alto tax only 8 8. cooley godward ny 4 9. cooley godward all else 4 *can only interview with cooley godward once 10. goodwin proctor ny IP only 3 11. hodgson russ nyc and buffalo 2 12. sutherland ny 2 13. kasowitz benson torres friedman nyc 3 14. darby & darby nyc/seatlle 2 15. Movillo, abramowitz, grand, iason... nyc 2 16. curtis mallet nyc 4 17. cahill nyc 6 18. wilson sonsini nyc 5 *more slots may be available 19. sills cummis epstein newark 2 *more slots 20. morgan lewis nyc 8 21. gide loyrette nouel nyc 3 22. mckee nelson nyc 20 23. dechert nyc 20 24. gunderson dettmer nyc, menlo park, san diego boston 4 25. orrick nyc 21 26. perkins coie menlo park 2 *shares slots with phoenix 27. beveridge diamond san fran 6 *shares slots with DC 28. farella braun SF 5 29. beveridge diamond DC 6 *shares with SF 30. wilson sonsini palo alto seattle SF San Diego Austin DC 9 31. shartsis friese SF 4 32. goulston storrs boston 2 33. ropes nyc 10 *shares with all other offices 34. ropes boston 10 *shares with all offices 35. kostelanetz fink nyc 20 36. roberts holland 15 37. satterlee stephens nyc 20 38. young conway stargatt taylor DE 7 *more slots may be avail. 39. wiggin and dana new haven ct 2 40. wilmer hale boston 5 41. greenbaum rowe smith and davis iselin nj 2 42. fenwick west mountain view, ca,seattle, SF 6 43. lowenstein sandler roseland nj 4 44. perkins coie phoenix 2 45. shipman goodwin stamford 3 46. state dept. DC 9 47. norton rose hong kong 20 48. sutherland DC/atlanta 2 49. dechert Philly 4 *can only interview w/1 dechert 50. fed reserve board DC 7 51. dechert UK 2 52. dechert silicon valley 4 53. dechert DC 4 54. dechert austin 4 55. dechert boston 4 56. latham NYC 23 57. latham chicago 4 58. latham newark 4 *can interview only w/1 latham 59. clifford chance 9
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Date: July 8th, 2008 12:09 AM Author: Cyan aromatic site ceo i'd move morvillo way down -- they're tiny and tend to hire clerks. i'd also consider moving ropes up a little, but i may be off on that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9953209) |
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Date: July 8th, 2008 1:23 AM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster I dont know anything about these little new york firms. Should I cut them out altogether, move everything up and bid paul weiss or something at 60? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9953468) |
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Date: July 9th, 2008 1:48 AM Author: Cyan aromatic site ceo i'd do some research. the odds of you finding out anything real about them here are close to nil. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9956525) |
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Date: July 9th, 2008 1:51 AM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster I don't really have the time to do that before 6 tomorrow. What do you suggest? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9956538) |
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Date: July 9th, 2008 1:53 AM Author: Cyan aromatic site ceo well, once again, that's a problem you created.
still, it wouldn't hurt to go to their web sites and look at a few random attorney profiles. if they're all HLR types, rank 'em low. |
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Date: July 9th, 2008 1:55 AM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster I've done that level of research. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9956551) |
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Date: July 9th, 2008 2:02 AM Author: Cyan aromatic site ceo well it's hard to do a lot better than that, dood. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9956586) |
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Date: July 9th, 2008 1:13 AM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9956415) |
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Date: July 9th, 2008 1:37 AM Author: orange adventurous theatre toaster (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=815198&forum_id=2#9956490) |