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Why are ALL of my NYC friends always single?
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Date: June 25th, 2008 10:04 PM Author: Bateful naked area patrolman I know lots of great people who moved to NYC after college, guys and girls. Great people, good looking, with great jobs. Yet EVERY single one of them are pretty much always single, even well into their 30s. Sure, going out and hooking up is fun for a while, but the game gets old eventually and it would seem that intelligent, good people would eventually want to settle down. Several of these friends have even lamented how they have pretty much lost hope of finding anyone to settle down with in NYC, because of the whole "there's always something better for me out there" mentality among everyone in the city. But they can't leave because they have good jobs.
Seriously, what is it about NYC that makes everyone perpetually single? |
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Date: June 25th, 2008 10:05 PM Author: up-to-no-good lay hissy fit ugliness and the new york accent (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9920832) |
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Date: June 25th, 2008 10:06 PM Author: lascivious awkward circlehead mother For many people, it is what you just said. There's so much variety out there, and things to do. If they want to trap someone, tell them to move to a boring midwestern city like Chicago. They can have their bland marriage, 2.4 kids and polish sausage 4 times a week (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9920836) |
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Date: June 25th, 2008 10:16 PM Author: Bateful naked area patrolman now, I like chasing tail the same as any other guy, but even for me it gets old sometimes. And if you want to talk about "prestige," prestigious people tend to want to pass on their seed, and it ain't prestigious to do that out of wedlock. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9920856) |
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Date: June 25th, 2008 10:25 PM Author: Sickened church building By 40 all of your friends will be married with a kid. Shit is just pushed out 5-10 years in NY.
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Date: June 25th, 2008 10:31 PM Author: Odious gay wizard water buffalo People are really ambitious and career-focused in New York, so relationships form more slowly. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9920875) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 3:31 AM Author: Well-lubricated Olive Feces Haunted Graveyard Just what you said, the "there's always something better for me out there" mentality. It's partly high population, partly that the city's reputation attracts a lot of strivers or artsy types who are less interested in marriage and children than the average person, and partly that people are surrounded by a lot of other people with the same mentality and don't feel any peer group pressure to settle down until they're well into their 30s. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9921293) |
Date: June 25th, 2008 10:38 PM Author: Sickened church building Let's break this down issue by issue.
First, why do people get married? Companionship and to raise families.
1. It's extremely expensive and difficult for most people to raise families in New York before their early thirties, especially given the high standards working professionals typically expect of themselves. Ask your typical 28 year old professional in NY if she wants to raise kids in her 1-BR apt or her share, chances are that's simply a non-starter. If she wants to be a stay at home mom, her husband typically won't be able to afford a suitable apartment until he is in his 30s. However, a lot of women her age are rearing children in the burbs. Most professionals in NY want to establish their careers, which means working til the early 30's without children. Then, they can afford all of the stuff NYers deem is necessary to raise children (the apartment, nannies, preschools, etc). I know some hardy folks who have kids at 29 or 30, but those are pioneers and few and far between. Even the people I know from college who are getting married at 25 or so don't plan on having kids in the near future in NY.
2. Given that its impractical to raise families until later, the other reason for marriage is companionship, love, sex, etc. In NY, there are hundreds of thousands of eligible people, and this pool of people change frequently. In addition, there are thousands of things to do on dates, new restaurants, new shows, etc. A lot of women in NY are simply date whores, and a lot of dudes in NY are simply variety whores. It takes a hearty couple that pays attention to and goes out to all of the new restaurants, attractions, etc if you are married. Falling into a routine in NY for a number of years doesn't make much sense.
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Date: June 25th, 2008 10:56 PM Author: flushed psychic dilemma your analysis makes sense. nyc is expensive, so it doesn't make sense from a cost-benefit perspective to have kids or get married at age 27. i've noticed that there's so many couples here in chicago. most attractive girls i've met or talked to are either engaged or in serious relationships. and they're all under 25!
what do you mean by the pool of eligible people changing frequently in nyc? |
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Date: June 25th, 2008 11:04 PM Author: Sickened church building There are always people moving into and moving out of the city. I have been here three years after college working in finance. I am noticing an influx of 1st year law associates and summer associates from my college class. A whole new set of women are moving in. Also, new MBA grads move in every year. Just a constant rotation of people which means there are new opportunities to date. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9920939) |
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Date: June 25th, 2008 11:49 PM Author: flushed psychic dilemma yeah, but are those women in finance and law even attractive? you think the weak economy will adversely affect the dating pool in nyc? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9921020) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 12:05 PM Author: Nudist stain stag film Never forget that New York has an enormous surplus of single women. There are 200,000 more single women in NYC than men. For men who are making decent money, there are a lot of eligible mates.
http://creativeclass.typepad.com/thecreativityexchange/2008/03/the-singles-map.html |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 9:11 PM Author: Milky address East = feminine. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9923483) |
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Date: June 27th, 2008 5:16 AM Author: apoplectic talented institution roommate yea, but 95% of them look like this
http://www.pryorcashman.com/attorneys-153.html |
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Date: June 27th, 2008 5:44 AM Author: Milky address That's a lot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9924707) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 9:54 AM Author: Electric House Voyeur Good points, but also realize that many people who marry and/or have kids simply move out of the city. One of the big draws of living in NYC is the social life/dating scene, which you pay for. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9921588) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 12:00 PM Author: Stimulating lilac generalized bond How much money (income and wealth) is sufficient for raising a family? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9921849) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 12:37 PM Author: Electric House Voyeur In NYC? A ton. Extra space + private schooling is ridiculously expensive, plus everything else costs more too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9921908) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 12:40 PM Author: Nudist stain stag film In Manhattan, 300k (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9921919) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 12:45 PM Author: Cordovan Scourge Upon The Earth What's funny is that I said something like "100K is not enough to raise of a family of 4 in NYC" or something a while back and everyone jumped on me for it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9921943) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 12:46 PM Author: Soggy headpube casino not in manhattan, but it could be done in parts of brooklyn/queens/the bronx (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9921946) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 1:00 PM Author: white arrogant cruise ship mad-dog skullcap It is easily enough to get by with a family of 4. But it wont give you the shit they are talking about.
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Date: June 27th, 2008 4:26 AM Author: Electric House Voyeur They were being douchetastic. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9924662) |
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Date: June 27th, 2008 5:18 AM Author: apoplectic talented institution roommate that's because you're blk and female. everybody assumes you're an idiot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9924690) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 8:55 AM Author: Violent Nowag Mediation since most NYC people are either unattractive, striverish, materialistic, or neurotic, it makes sense that most people are single. go to the south, chicago, or california, where people are attractive and pleasant, and you'll see that most are in relationships. HTMFH. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9921527) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 9:15 AM Author: hateful translucent home You are so fucking nuts. Get help. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9921547) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 9:20 AM Author: Violent Nowag Mediation i guess the truth hurts, you guido scum? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9921550) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 9:25 AM Author: hateful translucent home Yeah, and you Koreans are just at the top of the social pinnacle, right?
I don't have to date retarded retail bitches. You can marry that, if you want. |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 9:28 AM Author: disrespectful trip volcanic crater rehab it's probably because they are physically ugly, and thus have a complicated time attracting mates willing to stay after the drugs wear down. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9921556) |
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Date: June 27th, 2008 5:20 AM Author: apoplectic talented institution roommate nah, at least 98% of people in relationships are ugly too. most are also fat and dumb. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9924691) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 9:35 AM Author: mahogany magical striped hyena From what I've seen, people tend to be pickier than other cities. I'm guilty of it myself here.
I can find the smallest reason to reject someone because there's always someone else around the corner. Also, people don't tend to settle down here until their 30's and there isn't pressure to do so.
There's a stigma attached to being 30 and single in other cities that just doesn't attach in NYC. |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 9:46 AM Author: Violent Nowag Mediation you think there's a stigma to being 30 and single in a major world-city like Chicago? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9921574) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 9:48 AM Author: mahogany magical striped hyena "...major world-city like Chicago"
LULZ
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Date: June 26th, 2008 9:50 AM Author: Violent Nowag Mediation you've admitted in previous posts that you absolutely love Chicago and miss it. but every time i'm on the board, you deride Chicago as provincial and midwestern. contradict yourself much? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9921580) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 9:53 AM Author: mahogany magical striped hyena It doesn't have to be a major world city for me to enjoy it.
I also like Minneapolis, it doesn't make it a world class city, now does it?
I am going to stop responding to you altogether. I really don't feel like you are up to having rational conversations and you interject your opinions to the point that you come off as completely insane. No offfense.
Where did I call it provincial and midwester, for example? |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 9:54 AM Author: disrespectful trip volcanic crater rehab minneapolis is still a very large city.
how would you feel about living in, say, ft. wayne? |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 9:57 AM Author: mahogany magical striped hyena Minneapolis is surprisingly small. It's <400,000 people.
Never been to Ft. Wayne, but to be "world class", I would think it would at least attract a significant amount of tourism and have a good amount expats from other countries that reside there. |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 9:59 AM Author: Violent Nowag Mediation you've said absurd things like, how chicago feels "small" when you visit and how chicago fashion is WAY behind NYC.
ROFL! |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 10:01 AM Author: mahogany magical striped hyena I owned you in the fashion discussion, everyone posting on that thread agreed.
Chicago does feel small when I visit. That's my opinion. |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 10:11 AM Author: Violent Nowag Mediation WTF are you talking about? my entire contention was that 99% of people in Chicago and NYC dress the same, a point that even you agreed on.
How does Chicago feel "small" when manhattan is a tiny 23 square mile island? |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 10:31 AM Author: mahogany magical striped hyena Sigh. I never agreed on the 99% number. Like most things, you deal with the middle 50% and I am talking the high end.
NYC women are much more into the high end shopping and boutiques. I've pointed this out before.
There is a reason that I know more about the fashion scene in NYC than I care to admit, but I have been way too involved in it than is warranted by someone that isn't in the in the industry. |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 12:00 PM Author: Demanding Den i can't believe cfd is arguing with you on this point. when i visited chicago, it was really obvious that the people weren't as well-dressed as nyc people, and the fashion trends were about 1-2 years behind. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9921846) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 12:12 PM Author: Soggy headpube casino ROFL!
http://creativeclass.com/whos_your_city/maps/FIG_7.3_The_New_Geography_of_Work.gif
Chicagoans work as salespeople and flight attendants. Fashion designers flock to NYC |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 12:36 PM Author: Demanding Den EXCELLENT find! i wonder what cfd's response would be.
but i wonder why the map left out finance and corporate law for NYC. |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 12:47 PM Author: mahogany magical striped hyena It was a map of the "creative class". Don't ask me how that includes flight attendants.
Maybe it's their penchant for serving bud select on flights. |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 12:58 PM Author: Demanding Den how can Chicago be such a big city but still be so provincial and lacking in a major industry like finance, fashion, entertainment, or law? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922001) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 1:04 PM Author: Nudist stain stag film Let's not go overboard. Chicago is the derivatives and commodities capital of the world. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922021) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 1:06 PM Author: Demanding Den Chicago is the undisputed leader in trading of corn, soybean, pork belly, wheat, and other commodities.
but due to the rise in electronic trading and computer driven strategies, it's no longer essential to physically be in chicago to trade the various products offered by CME and CBOT.
aside from citadel, chicago just doesn't have that many high-end options in finance. |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 10:13 AM Author: cobalt aromatic church I must interject here, and no disrespect to anyone, but CFD, how could you argue with a gay man over fashion? That seems like one area where straight doods would almost never win. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9921627) |
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Date: June 27th, 2008 5:22 AM Author: apoplectic talented institution roommate generally true. but were talking about a fag who posts here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9924693) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 9:50 AM Author: disrespectful trip volcanic crater rehab in chicago in particular? yes, sort of. a lot of younger people in chicago are drawn from colleges in the Big Ten and similar schools, and a lot of them seem to marry and have kids relatively early. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9921581) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 9:58 AM Author: Violent Nowag Mediation aren't most young NYC people drawn from SUNY and other shitty schools? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9921597) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 11:56 AM Author: Demanding Den this is true. most chicago people are from the midwest, which is one reason why it's not a "world-class" city. and culturally, those people are predisposed to getting married at a much younger age. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9921842) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 12:12 PM Author: white arrogant cruise ship mad-dog skullcap Regardless of whether this is true or not, it is certainly not abnormal in any way for people to be single into their 30'sin Chicago. Of all the people I am friends with or work with, very, very few are married before 30. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9921859) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 12:22 PM Author: Cordovan Scourge Upon The Earth women: there's too much competition for desirable men (200,000 more single women than men... many men date "down"... younger or less educated women... women don't do the same... creates an even larger deficit at the top rungs
men: is there any reason for a young guy to settle down if he can get new pussy at will? - see above |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 1:05 PM Author: Demanding Den i used to live in L.A. and only did ok with women. every bar/club i went to had way more guys, and they were for the most part really good looking. after i moved to nyc, my success has gone up exponentially. i do make more money now than i did in L.A. but i think that only explains a part of it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922022) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 1:08 PM Author: Cordovan Scourge Upon The Earth Yes, there are far fewer single women in LA. LA has the largest deficit of single women in the country (it's hard to believe... I would expect it to be Anchorage or something, not a major city that has an entertainment industry that attracts lots of women). Also, I think people in LA are just better looking. Hot people go there to work in entertainment, people work out and tan more and plastic surgery is more prevalent. I also think people may be judged on their looks more there whereas people are judged by their money more in NY, since there aren't that many beautiful people here. Even if you're a guy with a decent salary in LA, it might be hard to compete with the 5 Brad Pitt lookalikes who are competing with you for women. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922033) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 1:12 PM Author: Demanding Den although i agree that L.A. is better for women than NYC due to the gender ratio, i do sense that you're bitter about your experience in nyc thus far. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922048) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 1:15 PM Author: Cordovan Scourge Upon The Earth I'm not silent about how much I dislike NYC. Dating isn't really the primary reason though.
Also, I'm not sure if LA is better for women exactly. There are more guys, but the women are also hotter. I don't think the average NYC woman would be very competitive if she were suddenly transferred to the LA dating market. |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 1:30 PM Author: Demanding Den what do you dislike about nyc? what makes you think you'll be that much happier in L.A.? they're very different cities, but it seems like you just have a lot of issues that go beyond what city you live in. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922126) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 1:32 PM Author: Cordovan Scourge Upon The Earth I never said I was moving to LA. I don't drive that well for one, so I think that city is out.
I don't like NYC because it's expensive and it's not worth it. Even people who have really good jobs and work really hard have shitty apartments. Nightlife is expensive and not worth it. People are annoying. Men are assholes. People are superficial about ridiculous things. Etc. etc. |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 1:33 PM Author: mahogany magical striped hyena We're definitely neurotic, as a whole. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922139) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 1:34 PM Author: Demanding Den "nightlife is shitty and not worth it."
you must be going to some terrible places with complete losers if you really believe this. |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 1:35 PM Author: Cordovan Scourge Upon The Earth I meant to say "Expensive and not worth it." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922147) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 1:40 PM Author: Demanding Den it must suck to be unattractive AND poor. if you were hot, you could enjoy the best of NYC since some guy will pay for you.
i know so many hotties in fashion, media, PR, etc., who don't make that much but go out to nice places like 5 times a week because they can always find a guy who will take them out. |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 1:42 PM Author: lascivious awkward circlehead mother BS is not into the fun nightlife scene. She goes to shitty places (which are still going to be expensive because it's NYC) and complains about "nightlife." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922185) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 1:43 PM Author: Cordovan Scourge Upon The Earth I don't think we have the same idea of a good time, no. I know you think I'd love NYC if I could go to Bungalow 8 five times a week, but I really wouldn't.
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Date: June 26th, 2008 1:45 PM Author: mahogany magical striped hyena There's always $7 pitchers at Rudy's. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922199) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 1:48 PM Author: Cordovan Scourge Upon The Earth I actually hate beer lol.
BTW, I didn't mean to say that NYC nightlife was "shitty." I misspoke. I meant to say that I didn't think it was worth how expensive it is. The amount of fun that I have in NYC is not astronomically greater than the amount of fun I've had in other random cities like Phoenix, Chicago, D.C. or Vegas and these other places are cheaper. |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 1:51 PM Author: mahogany magical striped hyena I tend to agree. I'm always shocked at how much cheaper it is in other cities. It's really about who you are with more than the venue.
I can have a shit time with certain friends because they are bitching about service at the Soho Grand when beer is $13 a pop and have a great time somewhere else with a different set of friends doing $1 beers on the LES. |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 1:47 PM Author: lascivious awkward circlehead mother I'm not saying you would like it. Different scenes, I like it because my friends are there, if you were an outsider it might not be fun to you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922206) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 1:48 PM Author: Well-lubricated Olive Feces Haunted Graveyard Oh, come on. I've been to Rose Bar. It's a nice place and I had a good time there, but it's not as if it was a vastly better time than nights I've spent at Gansevoort or even lame places like Whiskey Blue. I don't necessarily agree with her criticisms of New York, but I doubt she'd feel differently if she went to the same clubs as you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922213) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 1:54 PM Author: lascivious awkward circlehead mother Rowan, you haven't been to Rose Bar (or if you have you went before 9 when there's no doorman). In all liklihood you were at the Jade Bar which is right outside Rose. Damien turns away gaggles of models and we've all seen your picture, there is no chance you made it through that door, and I have never in my life seen a girl who was even close to your "league" at Rose (I go at least weekly). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922237) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 1:56 PM Author: Cordovan Scourge Upon The Earth When has Rowan ever lied about anything on the board? She's like one of the most reliable, stand-up posters around. I seriously doubt she would make that up (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922242) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 1:57 PM Author: lascivious awkward circlehead mother I'm not saying she is lying, I am saying she's mistaken, she may have been at Jade bar and thought it was Rose bar (they're both in the hotel and the door to Rose is right next to Jade). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922246) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 1:59 PM Author: Well-lubricated Olive Feces Haunted Graveyard I've been in Jade as well, I'm aware of which is which. You vastly overstimate how difficult it is to get into places. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922255) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:01 PM Author: lascivious awkward circlehead mother It's not difficult if you show up before they have anyone controlling the door. Rose is one of the toughest doors in the city, models and other assorted very hot girls are regularly turned away. There is less than a 0% chance you would ever get past Damian if you showed up at an hour that people actually go there (and there is actually a doorman). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922264) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:06 PM Author: Well-lubricated Olive Feces Haunted Graveyard Oh, I don't disagree. There's also a less than 0% chance that I'd want to bother.
All the same: I've been there, I've stayed there until quite late, and while the music and the atmosphere are of high quality, it is not vastly more entertaining than any number of other bars. |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 3:05 PM Author: up-to-no-good lay hissy fit LOL YOU JUST GOT PWN3D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHY BOTHER BRIBING HIM WITH 5K WHEN YOU CAN JUST GO THERE BEFORE 9????? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LULZ@NYC MODELS AND BROADWAY ACTRESSES. WEIRD-LOOKING WAIFS AND SPUNKY UNSINKABLE MOLLY BROWNS AREN'T EXACTLY LA PLAYMATES AND HOLLYWOOD ACTRESSES NOW ARE THEY????!!!! |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 3:09 PM Author: lascivious awkward circlehead mother I know you wouldn't get this concept but most people have more self-respect than resigning themselves to sitting in an empty bar for 4 hours hoping they will have fun later. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922545) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 3:10 PM Author: Cordovan Scourge Upon The Earth He was with his girlfriend! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922549) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 3:11 PM Author: lascivious awkward circlehead mother She said he did it regularly even when alone (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922557) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 3:21 PM Author: Well-lubricated Olive Feces Haunted Graveyard Regularly's kind of a stretch from what I said. He'd certainly been there before I met him, presumably with his friends. Who the hell goes to a bar alone? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922615) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 3:17 PM Author: up-to-no-good lay hissy fit you said NYC is full of ibanking strivers who would gladly plunk down 5k for the privilege of partying at Rose Bar but Damian wouldn't accept the bribe. These are the self-respecting people you think would never show up an hour or two early? They'd pay 5k but not show up an hour or two before it gets poppin'? Nice logic.
Btw, hoping they will have fun later? I thought this was the hottest place in town. How many contradictions are you going to make, friend? |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 3:21 PM Author: lascivious awkward circlehead mother That is exactly what i'm saying. I know you don't ever interact with people, so i'll explain. The type of douche who would spend 5k to get into a club is the kind of guy who thinks he is hot shit because he's a banker and would never deign to go at 8 o'clock and sit around with "losers." Yea, "hoping they will have fun," if they are clearly the type of people who don't belong, are worried about how much drinks cost and don't know anyone there, I don't know how much fun they will have sitting by themselves and nursing expensive beers. Try living IRL sometimes, you might learn things like this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922614) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 1:58 PM Author: Well-lubricated Olive Feces Haunted Graveyard I've been there a couple of times, and yes, we went in earlier in the evening. You can get in the vast majority of places if you go before 11 or so. The crowd in there didn't strike me as unusually good-looking. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922251) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:00 PM Author: lascivious awkward circlehead mother Because no one is there at 8pm. It's different than going other places "early," before a certain time there is no doorman and hence no face control. I still doubt highly you were in the right place, but sneaking in before they have a chance to control the door is pathetic and it's not the kind of place you show up to at 9:30 anyway. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922259) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:02 PM Author: Demanding Den rose bar on friday night from 11-1 pm is pretty crazy when it comes to quality of women. rowan is like those people who brag about going to harvard, and when you press them, they admit that they're at harvard graduate school of education. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922268) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:04 PM Author: lascivious awkward circlehead mother Exactly, and not just friday. Rose Bar has very high quality pretty much every night they are open. If Rowan has every been (unlikely) she snuck in at like 7, tried to wait it out for the normal crowd and was too drunk and went home at 10. Then 1-2 hours later people showed up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922278) |
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Date: June 27th, 2008 11:25 AM Author: up-to-no-good lay hissy fit walking through the front door at 9 is sneaking in? first you say it's impossible to get in and Rowan was lying and now she's just sneaking in through the front door? why are you such an insecure liar? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9925164) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:04 PM Author: Well-lubricated Olive Feces Haunted Graveyard We stayed there most of the night, it got quite crowded but it by no means became model central.
I don't know what that nonsense about a chance to control the door is about. Bars are grateful for the 9:30 business. If they weren't, they'd have consistent door policies throughout the evening. |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:06 PM Author: lascivious awkward circlehead mother It's a bar in the hotel, they allow the hotel guests unfettered access until 9ish (you snuck in based on this), after then people staying in the hotel need a reservation or they cannot go. You clearly don't understand bars like this and make it seem even less likely that you are telling the truth. Bars in this category would rather have no one inside than girls who look like you, because it is more beneficial to their lonevity, they certainly don't need to be grateful. Sorry to be harsh (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922287) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:12 PM Author: Well-lubricated Olive Feces Haunted Graveyard There are a number of ways a hotel bar can restrict its bar to its own guests, either entirely or during certain hours. As I remember, the people who were there when I arrived didn't look at all like hotel guests, just ordinary Manhattanites. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922317) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:17 PM Author: Demanding Den even most people who stay at the hotel are not guaranteed access to rose bar after 10 pm. it's a small venue, so it's not like they can let in everyone off the street. even the resident DJ is only allowed a maximum of 2 guests on a given night. Nur Khan, the director of rose bar (previously managed hiro, sway, wax) said he personally knows around 80% of the people at rose bar. from reading your posts, it seems like you went in before damien showed up and lounged around for an hour or two. whatever though. this is a pointless argument. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922330) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:23 PM Author: Well-lubricated Olive Feces Haunted Graveyard We did indeed go in before the doorman was there, and hung around until 1:30 or so the first time. I think we left around midnight the second. It probably is a pointless argument, but I do think that's sufficient to judge whether the bar is so superior to others that it would change a person's views on New York nightlife. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922355) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:32 PM Author: lascivious awkward circlehead mother The fact that you clearly didn't fit in or belong probably impacted how much fun you had. Also you cared enough to go early enough that you could sneak in, so you were obviously interested in being there. You misread my post, I said even hotel guests are not permitted without a reservation (which they are not guaranteed) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922391) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:36 PM Author: Well-lubricated Olive Feces Haunted Graveyard I went there when I was dating the banker, it's apparently a place he likes to go to. I didn't have anything to do with the planning, or thankfully, the paying.
I didn't think we were out of place, and as I said, I had a pretty good time and thought it was a nice place. But it was ultimately just a lounge, and if a person is dissatisfied with New York nightlife in general I don't think going there would change their minds. |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:37 PM Author: lascivious awkward circlehead mother You become less credible with every post. Rose bar is actually notably against attracting the banker set, and it is not the type of place where they let ugly I-Bankers buy their way in. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922410) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:40 PM Author: Free-loading Wonderful Associate so they ask for your W-2 when you get to the door so they can make sure you're not a banker? or is the bouncer some mythical creature who can just tell everyone's occupation on sight?
i'm not trying to be a dick but you're the one who's losing credibility. |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:42 PM Author: lascivious awkward circlehead mother The fact that she mentioned specifically he was a banker was meant to convey something. Often these are the douches who stay in their suits when they go out, this is not the element they want to attract. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922420) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:44 PM Author: Well-lubricated Olive Feces Haunted Graveyard It's how I've been referring to my most recent ex-boyfriend on the board. I call the one before that the ttteacher.
I don't remember what he wore. |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:45 PM Author: Cordovan Scourge Upon The Earth I think she was just trying to refer to him by a title that we on xoxo who have been following her love life would follow. She often talks about the teacher guy too.
If I were going to talk about guys I've dated I'd mention the loser musician from Washington Heights or the 36 year old, for example. |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:46 PM Author: Free-loading Wonderful Associate i'm pretty sure it was just a frame of reference. she's talked extensively here about "the banker" and "the teacher." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922444) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:41 PM Author: Well-lubricated Olive Feces Haunted Graveyard I didn't say he bought his way in, "paying" merely referred to the drinks, which were expensive even by New York standards ($18 or $20 I think?). I told you exactly how we entered: we went early in the evening. There was no bouncer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922417) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:42 PM Author: lascivious awkward circlehead mother So he "regularly" enjoys Rose Bar but has to sneak in like a criminal each time he goes. I think that'd the saddest thing i've ever heard. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922424) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:45 PM Author: Demanding Den 178! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922441) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:46 PM Author: Well-lubricated Olive Feces Haunted Graveyard He didn't seem to be particularly troubled by going there early, but whatever. I think you're a little too emotionally attached to that bar. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922446) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:48 PM Author: Cordovan Scourge Upon The Earth Dude, what is your problem?
Your big thing is that you can only get into RoseBar the "honorable" way if you're incredibly rich and beautiful, right? Most people aren't incredibly rich and beautiful. Rowan said it's a nice place, with good music and drinks. If someone likes the place, and knows they couldn't pass the door test, what is so dishonorable about going when they know they can get in?
Is it dishonorable to get tickets to an expensive broadway show that you can't afford at TKTS? Or to go to an expensive restaurant for lunch instead of dinner?
Your mentality is exactly what turns me off to a lot of NY'ers, ESPECIALLY the type of people my friends from Yale and Stuyvesant like to date/associate themselves with.. |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:50 PM Author: lascivious awkward circlehead mother I'm saying I feel bad for a guy who so desperately wants to be part of something that he clearly isn't that he would regularly show up at 8pm just to beat the doorman there and sit and wait around for 4 hours for people to come so he can think he belongs. You don't think that's sad? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922461) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:55 PM Author: Free-loading Wonderful Associate it never occurred to you that maybe some people just prefer to go out earlier? say, people who actually work for a living? oh wait, lemme guess, working for a living isn't honorable either?
i have no problem kicking it until 4 am on a friday or saturday, but during the week a night out usually ends around 1. which means i'm out drinking around 8. so if dude likes rose bar what's wrong with him going early, if that's when he's out anyway? because you say it's not cool? or because he wouldn't be able to get in later, when he's not trying to anyway? |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:57 PM Author: lascivious awkward circlehead mother Because he is still staying out late, it is pretty clear that he is only going there that early because he knows it's the only way he can get in there, and he is willing to spend 3-4 hours sitting around alone for that. Even you can see that's sad. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922494) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 3:00 PM Author: Free-loading Wonderful Associate what's sad is how much you're reading into all of this. it sounds to me like he went to a bar he likes with his girlfriend at a reasonable hour. the fact that you think everyone else only goes places because it's the hot scene this week or has a reputation for being particularly exclusive reveals a lot about what's important to you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922511) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 3:02 PM Author: lascivious awkward circlehead mother Do you see the contradictions in your post? He likes the bar, indicating he has been multiple times, what do you normally like about a bar? The crowd and scene is usually a component. So he clearly want's to be a part of that, realizes the only way is to go at 8pm and is willing to sit around for hours to do so. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922518) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 3:06 PM Author: Cordovan Scourge Upon The Earth I think it's sad if the best things for you about a bar are the *other* people who are there. Most people enjoy going out to be with their friends (or get pussy if they're a guy, but Rowans ex was with his girlfriend so that's not an option).
For me, the most important things are:
not being too crowded *good music* creative/unusual cocktails
I couldn't care less about who the people at the other table are or what they're doing. |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 3:10 PM Author: lascivious awkward circlehead mother How could the crowd not impact your enjoyment of a bar. You're lying to yourself (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922553) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 3:13 PM Author: Cordovan Scourge Upon The Earth Honestly, man, if I'm drunk, I can have fun with anyone, from my friends from Yale who are ibankers to people from my neighborhood who never finished high school. I really just don't give a fuck. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922567) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 3:07 PM Author: Well-lubricated Olive Feces Haunted Graveyard Perhaps he enjoys the 9 to 11 scene? Or wants to hang out with his date or his own friends? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922535) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 3:12 PM Author: Fragrant Amber Ticket Booth he will tell you that it's your problem and that he obviously doesnt care that it's exclusive
lol
that's why he's pitching a baby fit that some guy took a girlfriend to a bar at a time he disapproves of |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 3:15 PM Author: lascivious awkward circlehead mother For as much as everyone on this board doesn't care about these bars, thinks they are stupid as are people like me, you sure talk about it an awful lot. You don't see me startin threads about Joshua Tree. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922588) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 3:22 PM Author: Fragrant Amber Ticket Booth its impossible not to talk about them because you and jjc are constantly on the board. this thread isn't even about rose bar, it just became an issue when you started your hissy fit. nobody starts threads about joshua tree because they don't have a personal investment in it like you apparently do in rose bar. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922621) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 3:30 PM Author: lascivious awkward circlehead mother Link to me making this discussion about Rose Bar? Other people always start this shit, then when they don't like my opinion (which is an informed opinion) they decide to tell me what they think even though they have no ground to stand on. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922646) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 3:33 PM Author: Well-lubricated Olive Feces Haunted Graveyard I think you were the one who introduced the argument that Blue Smoke just wasn't going to the right bars. Other people brought up specific names. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922659) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 3:34 PM Author: Cordovan Scourge Upon The Earth The thread was about NYC people being single. I gave my opinion, alice in chains asked me why I don't like NYC, I told him, and you started in on a tirade about how I don't like NYC because I'm not cool enough to go to the elite places.
As you can see, there is nothing about RoseBar in the title of this thread. |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 3:36 PM Author: lascivious awkward circlehead mother I didn't say that at all, re-read my post. I said you are not into the same scene (in less delicate terms), so Alice in Chains would understand your choices. However, I also noted it's not fair for you to bash "nightlife" in general when you are only familiar with a particular segment of it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922678) |
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Date: June 27th, 2008 11:35 AM Author: up-to-no-good lay hissy fit yeah you're into the real Rose Bar scene. The 11-3 scene. All we know about is the 8-2 scene. It's vastly different. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9925185) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 3:01 PM Author: Cordovan Scourge Upon The Earth Dude he went with his girlfriend! When you go to a bar with your friends, is the main draw that you're around beautiful rich people or that you're having fun with people you like? It seems kinda sad if places can only have utility for you if they're filled with the "in" people. Having drinks with your gf in a nice spot isn't exactly sitting around alone. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922513) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:55 PM Author: Well-lubricated Olive Feces Haunted Graveyard It's not empty until midnight, and then suddenly full of models and trust fund kids. There were plenty of people there when I walked in, though it wasn't late night crowded, and it was a good time throughout the evening. What's wrong with enjoying that? Or, and this may have been a motive, trying to impress a girl by taking her somewhere new? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922484) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:58 PM Author: lascivious awkward circlehead mother It is pretty empty until 11:30 or 12 most nights actually. You don't know what you're talking about, so please, don't. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922501) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 3:05 PM Author: Well-lubricated Olive Feces Haunted Graveyard I don't claim to go there most nights. I'm speaking of the two evenings I went there. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922531) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:55 PM Author: Cordovan Scourge Upon The Earth I don't know Rowan's ex, so I can't speak to his motives, but it sounded like they went as a couple. When you bring your gf to a bar/lounge you're usually more interested in spending time with/talking to her than observing the other people around you.
It didn't sound like they were waiting around trying to be part of the "in crowd." I think they went early because he likes the place and knew that was when they could get in. There are worse things than going to a bar at 9:30 and drinking for a few hours. |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 3:01 PM Author: Fragrant Amber Ticket Booth apparently not. apparently going to a bar at 9:30 is the most pathetic thing on earth. but you are a real stud if you go at 11:00 to the exact same bar. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922516) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:51 PM Author: Free-loading Wonderful Associate "Your mentality is exactly what turns me off to a lot of NY'ers"
you know it just clicked for me why sorry fag rubs me the wrong way. whenever my friends hate on nyc, he's exactly the kind of guy they're talking about. and how can you defend that? |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:52 PM Author: lascivious awkward circlehead mother You're welcome to go back to Philly then (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922470) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:57 PM Author: Free-loading Wonderful Associate i don't have to. despite what my peoples may think, there are plenty of cool people in NYC. i love it here, even if i haven't been to the fabled rose bar. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922493) |
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Date: June 27th, 2008 11:41 AM Author: up-to-no-good lay hissy fit just walk in through the front door at 9 bro. Say wassup to our buddy when you get in. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9925199) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:58 PM Author: Cordovan Scourge Upon The Earth Ugh yes. I go to the Yale Club almost every Thursday night during the summer (they have their young alumni crap then) and I am considering not going tonight just to avoid all the nauseating rsf clones who want to brag about whatever hot club they're headed to after happy hours over. But on the other hand, it's the only way I get to regularly catch up with my college friends who I'm not close enough to go out of my way to make plans with. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922502) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 3:11 PM Author: Demanding Den i go to my alumni club once a week for happy hour but have encountered only a few people who fit your description. maybe yale just has more insecure douchebags? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922558) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 3:15 PM Author: Cordovan Scourge Upon The Earth What is your school?
I am possibly going with a date on this guy who went to Harvard... I want to ask him to take me to the Harvard Club just to see what it's like, scope out enemy secrets etc. lol
What other schools have clubs in NYC? UVA/Dartmouth are combined with Yale (note: A *ton* of the douchebags are from Dartmouth). And it seems like every guy I meet from UVA works at Legg Mason or a similar place and wears a striped button down shirt with jeans and loafers. |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 3:25 PM Author: Demanding Den Ugh. i hate divulging personal information but i went to harvard. if your date is a regular at the harvard club happy hour, i most likely know him. don't worry though. if i do see you, i'm not going to freak you out by asking if you're blue smoke.
i have a lot of friends from yale as well as other ivies. i never thought they were particularly more pretentious than kids from other ivies. (although most wharton kids i've met have been unbearable).
all the ivies do have clubs, but i think harvard and penn are the only ones with their own separate buildings that they don't share with other schools.
your observation of uva alums is correct. but that's the fashion in the south. my ex-gf went there. |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 3:37 PM Author: Cordovan Scourge Upon The Earth This guy isn't a regular. He's older... 33ish... I really only like older guys and most of the guys I date are older than me. I guess I have daddy issues or something. But all my friends tease me about this. They just tend to be more settled, experienced and worldly than most of the 25 year old guys I meet.
If you see me at the HC, just come up to me, whisper "White girls with asian guys" in my ear and slip away quietly. |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 3:03 PM Author: Demanding Den i've met pretentious and annoying people from every city and town imaginable, even fucking small towns in texas. link to an empirical study which shows that NYC people are more pretentious? i grew up in L.A. and there are a lot of douchebags there as well.
the reason why reality and i got into this debate is because rowan sounded like she was an authority on rose bar and when pressed for details, certain inconsistencies came out. i personally could give a rat's ass about her social life or where she goes out. but if she's gonna make assessments on nyc nightlife, i'm going to ask for details. |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 3:18 PM Author: Well-lubricated Olive Feces Haunted Graveyard I certainly didn't intend to pass myself off as an authority, more as a dissenting voice to Reality's assumption that he's the only person on the board who's set foot in any of the venues that are supposedly so different than the rest of New York bars. I think I stated pretty much immediately that I've been there twice. That being said, I think visiting the venue in question is sufficient to judge whether it's leaps and bounds different than other bars. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922602) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 3:25 PM Author: Fragrant Amber Ticket Booth apparently anybody else saying anything about one of the 4 or 5 exclusive bars reality goes to, oh sorry i don't mean exclusive bars i mean "places where reality's friends happen to be", sends reality into a blind rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922630) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 3:33 PM Author: lascivious awkward circlehead mother There's a much wider set of bars, a lot more than 5. Apparently people telling you the truth sends you into a stalkerific rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922661) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:54 PM Author: Fragrant Amber Ticket Booth yes, much better the ugly law student set (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922479) |
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Date: June 27th, 2008 11:31 AM Author: up-to-no-good lay hissy fit how many times are you going to change your story?
you've said:
1) it's impossible to get in.
2) it's possible to get in if you sneak in through the front door.
3) only hot people are allowed in.
4) ugly hotel guests have a chance of getting in.
5) Rowan was lying about getting in
6) Rowan was mistaken about getting in.
7) Rowan snuck in (through the front door)
8) Rowan can't judge the quality of people there because she went there early.
9) Rowan can't judge teh quality of people there because even though she stayed late, she didn't fit in so it impacted her judgment.
10) It's pathetic that Bankers would try to bribe Damien with 5k would be turned away
11) Bankers have too much self-respect to go to Rose bar an hour or two earlier than peak hours.
You're a sad sad sad little troll. |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:05 PM Author: Cordovan Scourge Upon The Earth If you "sneak in" before 9, can you just stay in or do they go around throwing out all the undesirables before all the cool, beautiful people such as yourself and alice in chains come in? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922283) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:07 PM Author: mahogany magical striped hyena Picturing this scenario is just hilarious. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922292) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:09 PM Author: lascivious awkward circlehead mother They let them stay, which is why it is such a reprehensible backdoor. It's like PT'ing your way into LS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922301) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:19 PM Author: Free-loading Wonderful Associate haha, now *that* would be an exclusive bar! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922337) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:41 PM Author: Fragrant Amber Ticket Booth LOL. you derive so much of your self worth based on whether or not you show up to some fucking bar at 10:30 versus showing up at 9:30 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922416) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:44 PM Author: lascivious awkward circlehead mother It's not about deriving self worth you simple moron, it's about not having your life and eveningf dictated to you by a bar. I don't go out at 9:30, because it's way too early. I like going to a bar when I want to be there, not being forced to scurry in 3 hours before I want to be there. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922435) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:49 PM Author: Well-lubricated Olive Feces Haunted Graveyard If you've been out to dinner beforehand, 9:30 is a pretty natural time to go drinking. It's an uncomfortable hour for clubbing, of course, but we're talking about a lounge. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922457) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:51 PM Author: lascivious awkward circlehead mother 9 or 9:30 is the prefered time to go to dinner, i'm not 65 years old. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922465) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:57 PM Author: Fragrant Amber Ticket Booth why do you care so much what time other people go to dinner or go drinking (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922497) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 3:00 PM Author: lascivious awkward circlehead mother It's not "caring" it's explaining why bars are not fun at 9:30, you aren't very bright. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922512) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 3:13 PM Author: Fragrant Amber Ticket Booth i've had fun at bars at 9:30
this is obviously not an objective thing
why does this matter to you at all? |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 3:17 PM Author: lascivious awkward circlehead mother It doesn't matter to me, it's a discussion, I thought I was entitled to my opinions? Why are you so obsessed with me? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922594) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:58 PM Author: Well-lubricated Olive Feces Haunted Graveyard But some people also eat at 7:30, especially if they work and that's when they get off. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922499) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 3:02 PM Author: Cordovan Scourge Upon The Earth See... to me, 9 or 9:30 is the "couldn't get a 7pm reservation" slot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922519) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 3:03 PM Author: mahogany magical striped hyena Wait until you work for the paycheck. An 8:00 dinner and going out at 9:30 or so isn't that big of a deal. You can't be out until 4:00 AM on most weeknights and not look worse for wear.
I have gotten the evil eye a few times for trying to pull it off. |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 3:04 PM Author: lascivious awkward circlehead mother I do not look forward to this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922526) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:51 PM Author: Cordovan Scourge Upon The Earth Maybe I'm an alcoholic or something, but I tend to go out drinking around 9 and stay until 4 or so. Weekends are rare... why not spend as much time drinking as possible? Then again, I do get left at McDonalds so... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922463) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:53 PM Author: lascivious awkward circlehead mother I didn't say don't start drinking at 9, we usually have a pre-party at someones apt from 9 or 10 until 11 or midnight. No bars have a good crowd that early, so it's more fun to be with your friends and pick the songs you're hearing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922476) |
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Date: June 27th, 2008 11:46 AM Author: up-to-no-good lay hissy fit yeah it's better to have your life and evening dictated to you by an internet psycho who tells you what time you should go. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9925209) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:04 PM Author: Cordovan Scourge Upon The Earth Needless to say, I've never been to any of these places, but I have a hard time believing that there could be so many stunningly beautiful women to fill all of these clubs that reality talks about. I just don't see many very beautiful people in NYC period. Maybe they're all hanging out in a different part of town or something, but I've felt much more out of place in terms of looks in places like Phoenix, Las Vegas, L.A. and San Diego. Or maybe the stunningly beautiful women in NY just don't come out during the daytime. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922274) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 1:42 PM Author: Cordovan Scourge Upon The Earth I think you are misunderstanding my grievance with NYC. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922186) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 1:42 PM Author: Soggy headpube casino i also know a lot of gay guys in that lucky situation as well. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922187) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 1:42 PM Author: Free-loading Wonderful Associate "i know so many hotties in fashion, media, PR, etc., who don't make that much but go out to nice places like 5 times a week because they can always find a guy who will take them out."
i guess that's what you call "the life"? i know their parents must be proud of what these "hotties" have made of themselves.
lay off smoke, she's good people. and certainly not unattractive. |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 1:43 PM Author: lascivious awkward circlehead mother Why would their parents be ashamed that their daughters are attractive and people enjoy hanging out with them? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922194) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 1:44 PM Author: Free-loading Wonderful Associate i think most people want their children to get more out of life than that.
we've established that you and i have very different priorities, so i'm not offended (or surprised) if you disagree with me on this. |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 1:47 PM Author: lascivious awkward circlehead mother "Get more out of life," what does how they spend their time socially have to do with what they're getting out of life? Should they be saving the world between 11pm-4am on Thursday nights? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922211) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 1:46 PM Author: Cordovan Scourge Upon The Earth The guy's post kinda suggested that these women aren't doing much with their lives... just have sort of fluffy jobs and spend most of their time leeching off of guys for dinner and drinks. I'm not sure that there is something dishonorable about this, but I don't see it as something that would make me very happy for a long time, even if I were beautiful enough to do it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922202) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 1:48 PM Author: Demanding Den lol! your last sentence reminds me of those guys who say that sleeping with numerous hot girls would not satisfy them even if they were good looking and cool enough to do it. nice defense mechanism you got going there, girl! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922215) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 1:51 PM Author: Cordovan Scourge Upon The Earth I think you've never read any of my posts if you think I would enjoy working in PR and going to Bungalow 8 every night. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922224) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 1:56 PM Author: lascivious awkward circlehead mother You can say that, and it might be true, but how can you say definitively you don't like something you've never experienced? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922244) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:00 PM Author: Cordovan Scourge Upon The Earth Do you need to experience everything in life to know what would make you happy?
Perhaps my tastes would have been different if I grew up a beautiful social butterfly and developed a liking for having to attend tons of social events, having to shoot the shit with people all the time, girlier things like fashion and media, being around "trendy" people and the like, but now I'm pretty introverted, I'm pretty analytical and like to read and write a lot and I don't think I'd enjoy having to meet and socialize with new people all the time (as I would have to do in PR or fashion). Even if I woke up tomorrow looking like Angelina Jolie, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be happy with that sort of job or lifestyle. |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:03 PM Author: lascivious awkward circlehead mother Not everything, but bars. I am pleasantly surprised by bars I didn't think I would like all the time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922270) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:00 PM Author: Demanding Den perhaps not. but you don't even have credibility because you're not attractive and don't have the option of going to those places. if you were a model with elite who did everything and decides that such a lifestyle is not right for her, i would instantly shut the fuck up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922262) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:08 PM Author: Cordovan Scourge Upon The Earth Wait, so only elite models can decide that NYC isn't right for them? That sounds like a very small pool of people. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922298) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:14 PM Author: Demanding Den that's not what i said. god, you're dense.
you said that you wouldn't enjoy the lifestyle of going to nice restaurants and upscale clubs, and my broad point was that you don't have much credibility because you don't even have the option of doing so. |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:23 PM Author: Cordovan Scourge Upon The Earth Me: I don't think NYC's nightlife is worth the $.
You: only because you can't go to good places. If you were rich and hot you would like it.
Me: uh, no, I've had enough life experiences to know what's enjoyable to me.
You: You don't have credibility because you're not an elite model who has access to these things.
Me: So... only the hottest and richest people can decide that they don't like NYC?
BTW, I've eaten at a number of restaurants that you'd call "nice." They're restaurants... anyone who can pay can eat there. I've gone to a number of places that even reality would agree are "nice" through work, school-related things, organizations, dates, family and (gasp) even paying for myself on occasion.
As Rowan said, I really don't think RoseBar and 1OAK have such revolutionary drinks and music that they provide an unimaginable experience. |
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Date: June 27th, 2008 11:51 AM Author: up-to-no-good lay hissy fit have you ever lived in a trailer? have you ever been a farmer in wichita? I guess you can't know you wouldn't enjoy that lifestyle either. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9925222) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 1:47 PM Author: Demanding Den i'm not exactly defending their choices, nor am i judging them. look, if i were a girl who makes shitty salary in nyc, i wouldn't mind using my looks to check out nice restaurants and clubs.
i've seen blue smoke's pics, and she's not attractive, just average. i don't know her, so i'm not going to engage in psychoanalysis, but from reading her posts, she does come across as bitter about her current circumstances in nyc. maybe she should move to atlanta, where you can live like a king on $40K/year. |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 1:53 PM Author: Cordovan Scourge Upon The Earth I don't drive well so I don't think I can go to Atlanta. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922234) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 1:14 PM Author: Demanding Den i'm not quite sure that people are judged more by their money in nyc than LA. there are plenty of blatant gold diggers in L.A. as well. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922057) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 1:42 PM Author: lascivious awkward circlehead mother L.A. is more about tacky new money and fame, but there are plenty of tramps looking for $ and a chance to sleep their way into a movie/tv role. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922191) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 1:47 PM Author: up-to-no-good lay hissy fit why do you talk about stuff you know absolutely nothing about? you think going to 5 hollywood clubs a year gives you room to talk? LOL. btw, why don't you take up my challenge and refute my points as to why LA is ten times better than NYC in almost every conceivable way.
Never forget there are hotter girls in the playboy mansion's grotto on a Tuesday than all the girls who have ever been in Manhattan.
btw, hmm.....rich hollywood movie stars who make movies seen by millions of people around the world versus ugly inbred "bluebloods" who own lumber/oil/railroad companies their great great great grandfathers founded during the Gilded Age of robber barons. Gee, I wonder what most people prefer. |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 1:49 PM Author: lascivious awkward circlehead mother Because L.A is spread out, fake, tacky and not a place I particularly enjoy. Also, enjoy that 2AM last call, or rather I would encourage you to enjoy that 2am last call if you had friends or ever went out in public you pathetic friendless shutin. I suggest you take your own advice and refrain from talking about anything other than being an insane, mentally distrubed shut in megaposter loser, it's clearly all you know. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922219) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 1:54 PM Author: up-to-no-good lay hissy fit funny considering you said LA and NYC are the only two places in the U.S. with a decent nightlife. More contradictions. Please tell us more about your 16k monthly tabs from vacations and clubs in February when you spend $60 a night at rundown clubs and are a full time law student.
LA is fake and tacky? this coming from the guy who lives in a city best known for sex and the city? even if what you say is true, at least the girls in LA are young and hot whereas the fake and tacky girls in NYC are ugly old spinsters in their 30s. BUT AT LEAST THEY WEAR JIMMY CHOOS AND PRADA!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 1:58 PM Author: lascivious awkward circlehead mother NYC is best known for SATC, lulz. Get back to megaposting you pathetic loser. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922253) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:00 PM Author: up-to-no-good lay hissy fit way to refute my points with your ad hominem attacks. that doesn't make you look pathetic, bitter, and insecure at all. why don't you go spend another 8 hours battling with JJC over chicago and not spend 8 seconds about why LA is ten times better than NYC; i'd do the same if I had 0 arguments. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922258) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:08 PM Author: Demanding Den the only really awesome thing about L.A. is the summer weather and the beaches. sure, there are plenty of hot girls, but it doesn't justify picking it over nyc.
i've been to the "hot" L.A. spots like les deux, area, winston's, harry's, ivar. they were good but not amazing. really sucks when lights come on at 1:30 and you're forced to leave the club. |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:10 PM Author: Cordovan Scourge Upon The Earth I think if you're a celebrity in LA, you just take your entourage and move to someone's mansion. The partying doesn't have to stop because the clubs close. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922313) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 8:43 PM Author: up-to-no-good lay hissy fit you guys have no clue what goes on in la. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9923426) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:10 PM Author: lascivious awkward circlehead mother "way to refute my points with your ad hominem attacks"
Have you ever made a post that wasn't composed wholly of those? |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:13 PM Author: up-to-no-good lay hissy fit sure. like my post above. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922319) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 1:10 PM Author: Soggy headpube casino you are also competing with the perceived glamour of the entertainment industry along with the pathological liars/talentless losers taking advantage of that fact. who would want to date a lawyer or accountant when they could get a piece of the next up and coming screenwriter and a shot at the red carpet? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922040) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 1:11 PM Author: Cordovan Scourge Upon The Earth haha reminds me of that Sex and the City episode where they go to LA and Charlotte sleeps with that guy who pretends to be a producer or something and turns out to be a personal assistant to a celeb. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922045) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 1:57 PM Author: up-to-no-good lay hissy fit let's be honest here, you haven't actually been to many, if any, hollywood clubs have you? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922248) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 9:12 PM Author: Soggy headpube casino let me know when the "hotspots" you hit up are putting on the tourettes dance-offs you unironically enter into. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9923485) |
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Date: June 27th, 2008 11:53 AM Author: up-to-no-good lay hissy fit let's be honest here, you haven't actually been to many, if any, hollywood clubs have you?
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Date: June 26th, 2008 12:44 PM Author: bright swollen french chef mood it's the niggers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9921938) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 1:53 PM Author: hairraiser bat-shit-crazy potus business firm people in NYC are type-A individuals, especially the yuppies, which means they're often a) ridiculously picky, b) not willing to admit they aren't as special as they think they are, and c) don't have a very balanced outlook on life (ie, obsessed with, for lack of a better phrase, keeping up with the joneses). when you have a city full of ivy league students etc. (of course these aren't the majority, but the mindset often is) because they feel no other city is "good" enough for them, of course you're not going to have the greatest dating scene (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922233) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 1:59 PM Author: Contagious parlour sup dood? How is Brown? Why MBA troll? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922256) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:00 PM Author: hairraiser bat-shit-crazy potus business firm cold :( (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922260) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:00 PM Author: Contagious parlour you didn't go home for the summer? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922263) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:02 PM Author: hairraiser bat-shit-crazy potus business firm nah bra, I'm doing research this summer. I went home for a month though (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922265) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:03 PM Author: Contagious parlour still planning on med school dood? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922272) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:04 PM Author: hairraiser bat-shit-crazy potus business firm nope, BIGGEOLOGY has been the plan for the past year. Sometimes I kinda wish I had stuck with premed though, because my GPA was a lot higher (premeds should be shot for whining about how "hard" their classes are) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922279) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:06 PM Author: Contagious parlour woah you and CBomo are like twins (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922284) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:08 PM Author: hairraiser bat-shit-crazy potus business firm nah, chomo did worse in his premed classes than I did, although he's taken more (he took Orgo II and physics, the latter of which you need for geology anyway; the difference is he took real physics instead of the faggot non-calc premed version) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922295) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 8:28 PM Author: Coral messiness yeah i know. seriously (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9923398) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 9:08 PM Author: Milky address "BIGGEOLOGY"
Oil? |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:04 PM Author: hairraiser bat-shit-crazy potus business firm mba troll because if I just get a masters and not a PhD (ie, go to work in industry), I'll probably get an MBA eventually (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922273) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:04 PM Author: Contagious parlour cool. what do you want to study in grad school? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922275) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:07 PM Author: hairraiser bat-shit-crazy potus business firm if I go for the PhD it'll be in Earth Systems History (ie analyzing really old dirt, etc.) kind of stuff, if I decide to go the masters/industry route I'm not really sure what I should study. I haven't really asked around re: what programs I should apply for because it's still pretty early (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922290) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:09 PM Author: Contagious parlour sounds cool. What does geology entail? A lot of chem or physics? The intro courses at my school were "rocks and jocks type" classes but that was the same for astronomy, and actual astronomy is actually pretty hard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922302) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 2:17 PM Author: hairraiser bat-shit-crazy potus business firm a lot of stuff. Industry/government is more of what the standard Randy Marsh view of a geologist is (going out in the field and looking at shit, taking measurements), although it can also encompass environmental consulting (telling companies not to do X because Y will happen to the surroundings). You can take as much or little chem or physics as you would like; biogeochemistry (studying chemistry of, say, rivers) borders on environmental science more than geological science so it's pretty hard to define what geological sciences actually are. Geophysicists can do anything from highly theoretical work on the core to analyzing earthquake data. Physical geochemists can look at a rock outcrop and analyze why you would get, say, iron here and titanium there (some of the most useful stuff for industry, but also hard as crap). Geo-biologists are typically people who do fossil stuff, or analyze deep sediments to find out shit about ancient environment conditions etc. I could go into even more detail but you get the point
Don't be fooled though; pure structural geology needs very little chem or physics, but it's still pretty hard to wrap your mind around the 3-D concepts. Intro geo classes at most schools are a joke, and ironically enough Brown has one of the more "real" intro geo classes. Usually our intro classes are a fucking joke |
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Date: June 27th, 2008 4:28 AM Author: Electric House Voyeur Definite truth in that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9924665) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 3:58 PM Author: Saffron kitchen coldplay fan ROFL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9922746) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 9:35 PM Author: Copper preventive strike dragon Rose Bar FTW! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9923550) |
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Date: June 26th, 2008 9:35 PM Author: 180 dingle berry funny thread. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9923551) |
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Date: June 27th, 2008 4:50 AM Author: disturbing primrose friendly grandma i'm glad i'm a lesbian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9924677) |
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Date: June 27th, 2008 6:42 AM Author: Electric House Voyeur Your parents aren't. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9924742) |
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Date: June 27th, 2008 6:48 AM Author: disturbing primrose friendly grandma what matters is how i feel you stupid fuck. it's not my fault they were raised in the olden days when people were indoctrinated with all sorts of arbitrary, confining gender norms. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9924752) |
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Date: June 27th, 2008 6:53 AM Author: Electric House Voyeur Hey, if you're fine with being an embarrassment to your family then its cool with me. I mainly feel for your parents. Like when they're with their friends and everyone is talking about their kids, you know? Like "little Ashley just got married! The wedding was so beautiful, and she's married to a great guy." And your parents look down. And then the proud father asks: "so, don't you guys have a daughter too? [ Ball Crushing Dyke], right?" And your parents do their best to deflect their shame, but everyone knows its epic fail, much like their attempt at reproduction and breeding. That night, your father commends your mother for not crying that night. She responds, defeated, that she's all out of tears.
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Date: June 27th, 2008 6:56 AM Author: disturbing primrose friendly grandma you have dumb, arbitrary standards for judging people. intelligent people don't have a problem with my lesbianism. if you were smarter, you'd get that my being female doesn't mean i have to date a male. but you've drank the 1950s kool aid.
having a dumb, short son must be pretty embarrassing for your parents. in fact, i bet your parent would prefer a lesbian daughter over dumb, short you. |
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Date: June 27th, 2008 7:02 AM Author: Electric House Voyeur "you have dumb, arbitrary standards for judging people"
I'm not talking about how I judge people. I'm just describing a scene that happens to parents like yours.
"intelligent people don't have a problem with my lesbianism."
Theoretically, yes. Much like you don't "have a problem" with people working at McDonalds until it happens to your kids.
"if you were smarter, you'd get that my being female doesn't mean i have to date a male."
I'll take strawmen for $100, Alex.
"but you've drank the 1950s kool aid."
Wasn't born nor was my family here in the 1950s. But every parent wants to see their kids in a good, happy relationship. Every father beems when his daughter marries that great guy she's been dating. I mean, not those who are fathers of lesbians, but you get the idea.
"having a dumb, short son must be pretty embarrassing for your parents."
No, my parents aren't retards, and we come from a background where being successful is much more important than being tall. |
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Date: June 27th, 2008 7:11 AM Author: mahogany magical striped hyena "No, my parents aren't retards, and we come from a background where being successful is much more important than being tall."
So do my parents, as a matter of fact. My parents do not judge my success by my ability to happily stick my penis in a female who will then squirt out some kids. They judge my "success" by my ability to take care of myself, have a job that I like and the ability to contribute to society in a meaningful way. |
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Date: June 27th, 2008 7:12 AM Author: Electric House Voyeur Right, because you're male.
But she isn't. |
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Date: June 27th, 2008 7:15 AM Author: disturbing primrose friendly grandma no, my parents didn't come from some filthy, 3rd world eastern european country like your's did. don't assume that normal americans share your toilet country values. they're quite happy with my career success.
russians aren't capable of rational thought, that's why people in the us are comparatively wealthy, while russia is the toilet of the world. you people are dumb enough to, in spite of your poverty, value shitting out kids over producing. really, really smart. |
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Date: June 27th, 2008 7:19 AM Author: Electric House Voyeur LOL. You keep telling yourself that. Being from E. Europe is great. Being a dyke isn't. Sorry bitchcakes.
[Previous convo re: their little Ashley getting married] Cue your parents: "Well, my little [Ball Crushing Dyke] has a great career!" Everyone smiles politely, says "that's great!" *silence* "So, is there a wedding date?"
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Date: June 27th, 2008 7:20 AM Author: disturbing primrose friendly grandma i know it seems weird to you, but this isn't russia, where despite your toilet country's high poverty rates, you value shitting out endless numbers of kids over producing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9924778) |
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Date: June 27th, 2008 7:24 AM Author: Electric House Voyeur Hate too break it to you little girl, but you're embarrassing yourself again. But please, keep doing so and continue to tell us all about how many kids people in Russia have. Anything else you want to tell us about life in Russia? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9924784) |
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Date: June 27th, 2008 7:26 AM Author: disturbing primrose friendly grandma lol at the little russian calling someone little. i'm taller than you. that must be embarrassing for you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9924786) |
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Date: June 27th, 2008 7:31 AM Author: Electric House Voyeur You're a dyke and a stupid one at that and you think I'm embarrassed because I'm short? Alrighty then. Lets just say that I'd take on a lot of debt not to switch places with you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9924793) |
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Date: June 27th, 2008 7:37 AM Author: disturbing primrose friendly grandma that's because you're an idiot, like i explained above. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9924795) |
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Date: June 27th, 2008 7:56 AM Author: Electric House Voyeur I think its pretty clear who the knuckle dragger among us two is, cunt. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9924803) |
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Date: June 27th, 2008 9:10 AM Author: zippy chocolate party of the first part Idiot. There's more stigma against male gays than lesbians. Much more. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9924871) |
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Date: June 27th, 2008 7:13 AM Author: disturbing primrose friendly grandma i can imagine it now. your dad, an avid basketball fan, setup a mini-court out in the yard, and bought all the basketball gear so his little boy play. i bet you two watched the game together every week.
then, to his horror, at 4th grade tryouts it became apparent that all the normal little boys towered over you. a single tear rolled down his eye as he watched you get thrown about by all the normal 4th graders, and upon hearing that you were the only boy who didn't make the team.
poor, short, dumb little fish. i understand that you rage on xo in the night because of your misery and failure. |
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Date: June 27th, 2008 7:22 AM Author: Electric House Voyeur "i can imagine it now. your dad, an avid basketball fan,"
He isn't. PWN3D.
"then, to his horror, at 4th grade tryouts it became apparent that all the normal little boys towered over you."
Actually, I played b-ball in grade school and wasn't bad. My dad never cared and thought it distracted me from my math homework.
"i understand that you rage on xo in the night because of your misery and failure."
Your stupidity is amazing. First, where I am it isn't night, its the middle of the day. Second, why would you think my Russian mathematician dad would give a shit about basketball? |
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Date: June 27th, 2008 7:25 AM Author: disturbing primrose friendly grandma inventorying the custodial cleaning supplies and toilet scrubbers doesn't make your dad a mathematician (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9924785) |
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Date: June 27th, 2008 7:28 AM Author: Electric House Voyeur Russians don't clean toilets. You apparently don't know about people who aren't American, which indicates that you're also of poor breeding. If your parents were Japanese they would realize that suicide is the only way out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9924791) |
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Date: June 27th, 2008 7:38 AM Author: disturbing primrose friendly grandma sorry, but russia is a ghetto sewer, and no one from that country is fit to do more than scrub toilets and clean up after americans (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9924796) |
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Date: June 27th, 2008 7:55 AM Author: Electric House Voyeur LOL @ a dyke talking shit about other groups. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9924802) |
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Date: June 27th, 2008 7:58 AM Author: disturbing primrose friendly grandma Russia is the joke of the world. you're second only to one other region that can't get its shit together and pull itself out of poverty. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9924805) |
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Date: June 27th, 2008 7:59 AM Author: Electric House Voyeur I suspect you couldn't find either of these places on a world map. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9924806) |
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Date: June 27th, 2008 11:15 AM Author: Well-lubricated Olive Feces Haunted Graveyard Wait. I mean, I know that poster is schtick, but aren't you barely on speaking terms with your parents? Seems funny that you'd use the parental approval angle to make someone else feel bad. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9925139) |
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Date: June 27th, 2008 11:29 AM Author: Cordovan Scourge Upon The Earth Also, hasn't he said that he and mandy don't expect to have kids? The main reason that parents want their kids involved in stable heterosexual relationships is so that they can have grandkids and continue the family. I don't think a childless married son is most parents' ideal either. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9925172) |
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Date: June 27th, 2008 11:39 AM Author: Free-loading Wonderful Associate "I don't think a childless married son is most parents' ideal either"
Fuck you |
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Date: June 27th, 2008 11:44 AM Author: Cordovan Scourge Upon The Earth lol I'm certainly no parents's ideal either. How about childless, unmarried daughter? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9925203) |
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Date: June 27th, 2008 11:48 AM Author: Free-loading Wonderful Associate Ha, well you've still got plenty of time for all that, if that's what you want.
I do think you were being a little presumptuous with your post though. Maybe your folks care about these things, but I doubt my parents care either way whether or not I have kids. They're just thrilled my brother and I are out of the house, they get along much better now and take trips and party and stuff. I don't think grandkids are even on their radar, and I know they wouldn't want me to have kids I don't really want just so that they can keep the family growing or whatever. |
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Date: June 27th, 2008 11:56 AM Author: Cordovan Scourge Upon The Earth My parents don't really care about that stuff either. I was just following Fish's really stereotypical line of thinking about what parents want. He said parents are ashamed by homosexual kids because they can't get married and have "normal" lives, but my point was that part of that normal life that traditional parents envisioned for their kids involved grandchildren. Fish doesn't want to have kids. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9925230) |
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Date: June 27th, 2008 12:00 PM Author: Well-lubricated Olive Feces Haunted Graveyard I think she has a fair point insofar as Fish was talking about stereotypical parents rather than particular ones, and dismissed gay posters when they said that their own parents were happy with their accomplishments. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9925241) |
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Date: June 27th, 2008 12:02 PM Author: Free-loading Wonderful Associate yeah i didn't read the whole thread, just smoke's post. in context i can see what she was saying. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9925244) |
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Date: June 27th, 2008 7:45 AM Author: Aqua seedy persian electric furnace "all sorts of arbitrary, confining gender norms."
Yeah, following nature is so arbitrary. The round peg fits in the round hole, fatty! |
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Date: June 27th, 2008 7:49 AM Author: disturbing primrose friendly grandma and YOU get to say what's "natural" right? never mind that homosexuality is rampant in the animal kingdom, and that if it weren't natural in humans, you wouldn't have millions of people wanting to have same sex relations.
you sound like some fat, stupid christian hollering about "god's will" |
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Date: June 27th, 2008 6:59 AM Author: disturbing primrose friendly grandma (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9924763) |
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Date: June 27th, 2008 7:01 AM Author: disturbing primrose friendly grandma (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9924764) |
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Date: June 27th, 2008 7:20 AM Author: disturbing primrose friendly grandma (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9924780) |
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Date: June 27th, 2008 9:09 AM Author: mahogany magical striped hyena Are you schtick? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=829177&forum_id=2#9924869) |
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Date: June 27th, 2008 12:07 PM Author: Spectacular Sapphire Crackhouse SHUT UP PEOPLE!
PLEASE. The first hundred posts were amusing enough. BUT NO MORE. |