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Date: October 3rd, 2008 4:56 PM Author: Floppy Khaki Stage Giraffe If any of you are wondering whether to start on Bill Starr's...fucking do it. I've been seeing increases across the board (bench/dead/squat).
ANYWAYS, the good part. I'm doing squats. I follow a standard set of weights that increase linearly. These are kept in a log that I bring with me whenever I workout.
As I finish one of my sets and begin to change the weights, a girl who was near me says, "Are you doing your homework while you're working out?"
"What are you talking about?"
"You're writing."
"Oh, I'm just recording my reps on my log so I can keep track of my lifts."
"I was about to say, you're a machine!"
"Yeah, at a certain point you have to keep track of all your lifts if you want to keep on progressing."
"Cool."
Yeah...couldn't close guise. :( |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 4:58 PM Author: laughsome crusty cuckoldry wow; doesn't get much better than that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=864473&forum_id=2#10225537) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 5:02 PM Author: Floppy Khaki Stage Giraffe I could not for the LIFE OF ME think of anything to say afterward. UGH (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=864473&forum_id=2#10225543) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 5:05 PM Author: scarlet supple clown "well, you're just in time for my penis thrusts", etc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=864473&forum_id=2#10225547) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 5:02 PM Author: talented primrose faggot firefighter What workout do you suggest for a beginner? I am very skinny and weak, and I don't think I'd be able to do squats properly.
Also, have chicks been approaching you often your whole life? Or is this new? At this rate you should get laid in a few months... |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 5:07 PM Author: Floppy Khaki Stage Giraffe I'd start on rippetoes. I made the mistake of starting directly with split routines. Looking back I should've started on 5x5s then switched to splits. (earl probably had a few laughs at my expense from this)
You definitely need to do squats. Just do it with a bar first and work your way up. If you don't know the form, ask a friend.
I've never really been approached until recently. Like, this time sophomore year I didn't get diddly squat. Chicks are talking to me now though, which is good. |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 5:10 PM Author: Clear Menage buy this book and read it:
http://www.amazon.com/Starting-Strength-2nd-Mark-Rippetoe/dp/0976805421
it's a simple program that focuses on making linear progression on heavy, compound lifts. it's completely scalable so you don't need to worry about squatting 315 right off the bat. really, it's an incredibly the fastest way to get strong and put on size. you'll also need to commit to massively boosting your caloric intake. rip recommends drinking a gallon of whole milk every day for the first several months of the program, and at least 5000 calories or so a day in general.
dont waste your time with faggy bodybuilding "split" programs. |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 5:12 PM Author: talented primrose faggot firefighter I can't do squats properly. I'm just too weak and out of shape. I need to start with machines to build tone first. Also, I was told that I should spend 2 months on a full body machine workout to get my ligaments and tendons or whatever into shape. I've been doing it for 1 week so far, and I do feel a bit more toned. It seems to be working... I don't necessarily want to put on size. I just want to be normal size and shape but all muscle.
Also - my body is kinda misaligned... When I do shoulder presses I can feel that things aren't working perfectly. |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 5:17 PM Author: Floppy Khaki Stage Giraffe ...wtf? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=864473&forum_id=2#10225585) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 5:18 PM Author: insanely creepy chrome regret can't even do bodyweight squats (w/o weights)? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=864473&forum_id=2#10225588) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 5:22 PM Author: talented primrose faggot firefighter I can. Actually, my legs are pretty strong (hiking/biking) but they aren't flexible so my form always sucks. I've tried to do a squat workout before (on one of those guided vertical bar things) and I only gain like 20 lbs, after which I get back pain and my form goes to complete shit. I think I'd benefit from more controlled exercises. |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 5:40 PM Author: Clear Menage get the idea out of your head that you can get strong or in shape from machines.
you can do squats properly. study the technique and consider getting a single session with a personal trainer (or even just a friend who knows the lifts well). |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 5:22 PM Author: Clear Menage you can start doing squats with just the bar. the movement is very natural. if you can't even do a bodyweight squat, then i'd recommend spending a couple of weeks doing pushups, pullups/chinups, leg presses and some weighted core work.
you should not have any use for machines (except for remedial leg press shit). do not listen to people who tell you otherwise. the idea of spending 2 months on a body machine to condition your ligaments is lulzy.
if you want to be "normal" sized but all muscle, you're giong to have to work hard and probably for a period of time put on weight. this means EATING (which helps you recover from previous workouts more quickly and puts on size) and possibly later cutting fat (which you'll find to be much easier than adding muscle). |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 5:25 PM Author: talented primrose faggot firefighter I can't do pushups, pullups or situps in proper form. I'm pretty tall and skinny so these exercises are tough for me. Also, did you see my comment about the imbalance? |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 5:26 PM Author: high-end boltzmann you seriously can't do a situp? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=864473&forum_id=2#10225619) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 5:27 PM Author: talented primrose faggot firefighter I can. But my form is all fucked up. Wont I only work the front muscle if I do them incorrectly, leading to later problems...? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=864473&forum_id=2#10225622) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 5:29 PM Author: Floppy Khaki Stage Giraffe you can't fuck up a sit up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=864473&forum_id=2#10225628) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 5:31 PM Author: talented primrose faggot firefighter Doing sit-ups is a quick way to get stronger abdominal muscles. However, they must be done properly to avoid any possibility of injury to your spine and the neck and head muscles. In addition, sit-ups are about using the abdominal region (the abs). Therefore, close attention must be paid to ensuring that you are not compensating by using other parts of your body to perform as sit-up, as this will diminish the effectiveness of the sit-up and may cause injury to your body. It is not as harsh as it sounds - always, always focus on the abs and you are most of the way there. http://www.wikihow.com/Do-Sit-Ups |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 5:38 PM Author: Clear Menage then you need to work at it. believe me, dude, if you eat a lot (start drinking a gallon of whole milk a day) and WORK hard, you will make progress. it happens. don't tell yourself you can't.
if flexibility is an issue, then work on it. if you can't do proper pushups, then work on them. but make sure you give your body rest and food for proper and optimal recovery.
interestingly, my flexibility has drastically improved from lifting.
buy rippetoe's book and read it. |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 5:41 PM Author: talented primrose faggot firefighter Maybe I'll start on some remedial situps and pushups, then find a better workout. I wont be able to do pullups until I am diesel, so I'm not even going to try.
I can't drink milk. Should I drink whey? I bought it once but it had like 50g of sugar per serving and I threw that shit out. |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 5:44 PM Author: Clear Menage this must be flame. honestly, i'd love to help you here, but you are making things too hard.
you can't drink milk? lolwut?
80% of the protein in milk comes in the form of whey. the other 20% is from casein. coincidentally, this is the breakdown recommended by many of nutritionalists and exercise physiologists.
there's nothing really wrong with whey, but you can get plenty of protein from food sources and milk.
what's wrong with sugar? you need calories man. |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 5:46 PM Author: talented primrose faggot firefighter I'm allergic to milk. Is that uncommon? I don't like to eat refined sugar because it's nasty. I wish there was a how-to book that explains everything from start to finish for a beginner. Maybe I'll just start running and swimming. Weightlifting is too unnecessarily complex. |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 6:54 PM Author: Clear Menage dood.
the "program" i've been telling you about is NOT complex. it consists of three compound exercises for several sets, three times a week. that's it. you work hard, eat hard, and you see results.
read the fucking book i linked in this thread. it explains everything you'll need to be as strong as you want to be.
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 7:47 PM Author: fishy factory reset button gas station i think i may buy this book, i am also sort of weak and lame
ty dood |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 10:50 PM Author: Clear Menage do it and come back to update me or ask questions
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 4:56 PM Author: scarlet supple clown you're just like me, when i was 12. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=864473&forum_id=2#10225534) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 5:00 PM Author: Clear Menage what are you squatting?
and yes, following a legitimate strength program will pay huge dividends |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 5:11 PM Author: Floppy Khaki Stage Giraffe 180. but they're honest to god ass to ground squats. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=864473&forum_id=2#10225562) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 5:12 PM Author: scarlet supple clown his post wasn't that good. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=864473&forum_id=2#10225569) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 5:18 PM Author: Clear Menage dude you really should read rip's book. it goes much further than just outlining a workout routine (which it actually barely does). it give a very detailed and well-reasoned analysis of the major lifts and how/why we do them. the technique instruction is absolutely superb. i'd give you my copy if i were in nyc, but oh well.
anyway, you don't absolutely have to do olympic style ATG squats. going to just below parallel is more than sufficient for building strength and mass. |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 5:22 PM Author: Floppy Khaki Stage Giraffe I don't know...I like doing them atg now. I'm gonna stick with it and see if I can get to 225 this way. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=864473&forum_id=2#10225599) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 5:23 PM Author: Clear Menage if you like it, then fine. but be advised that it's not necessary and you can progress more quickly doing low-bar squats to parallel.
plz buy rip's book and read it. please? have you read the wikia site? or his board on strengthmill? |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 5:26 PM Author: Floppy Khaki Stage Giraffe If I had cash to burn, I would. But I'm spending too much already. Link@ to the other stuff? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=864473&forum_id=2#10225618) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 5:34 PM Author: Clear Menage starting strength wiki:
http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/Starting_Strength_Wiki
rip's q&a board:
http://www.strengthmill.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=36
Starr's strength program is excellent for getting big and strong, but is very much an intermediate program. i'm not sure that you're an intermediate yet.
are you drinking a gallon of milk a day? |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 5:35 PM Author: Floppy Khaki Stage Giraffe half a gal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=864473&forum_id=2#10225642) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 5:38 PM Author: Clear Menage whole milk? you need the calories. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=864473&forum_id=2#10225654) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 5:39 PM Author: Floppy Khaki Stage Giraffe Of course. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=864473&forum_id=2#10225658) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 5:44 PM Author: Clear Menage ty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=864473&forum_id=2#10225679) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 5:07 PM Author: insanely creepy chrome regret bill starr's is the 5x5 workout, right? I got my bench up to 5 reps of 200 when i did that. benched yesterday for the first time in 2 months, and only got 185 up 3 times (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=864473&forum_id=2#10225549) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 5:12 PM Author: Floppy Khaki Stage Giraffe Yep. I fucking love it.
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 5:15 PM Author: insanely creepy chrome regret i feel like getting enough food everyday is the most annoying part about lifting. thats the only thing keeping me from getting back into a hardcore program right now, i'm lazy about eating, and it just fucks up my stomache and makes me sluggish when i try. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=864473&forum_id=2#10225580) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 5:25 PM Author: Floppy Khaki Stage Giraffe NO excuses. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=864473&forum_id=2#10225615) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 5:28 PM Author: high-end boltzmann make your flip cook for you brah. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=864473&forum_id=2#10225625) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 5:07 PM Author: Translucent Out-of-control Dingle Berry Ticket Booth damn it nyuug.
i ran here, because i thought someone spread her vag for you.
ugh |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 5:12 PM Author: Floppy Khaki Stage Giraffe Got 3 months to make it happen. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=864473&forum_id=2#10225570) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 5:12 PM Author: slap-happy internet-worthy nursing home This is heading towards a barziniesque disaster. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=864473&forum_id=2#10225572) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 5:27 PM Author: high-end boltzmann i get that feeling too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=864473&forum_id=2#10225621) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 5:40 PM Author: carmine multi-billionaire abode I'm going to the gym now.
I need to NOT DEADLIFT and hurt my back more.
Are you gymming it tomorrow? |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 5:46 PM Author: Floppy Khaki Stage Giraffe nah man, i go mon-wed-fri (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=864473&forum_id=2#10225688) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 6:25 PM Author: poppy exciting hell affirmative action how many reps? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=864473&forum_id=2#10225774) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 7:32 PM Author: carmine multi-billionaire abode so apparently lots of dead lift strength does not translate into strength using the back extension raise thingy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=864473&forum_id=2#10225889) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 7:37 PM Author: Floppy Khaki Stage Giraffe the hyperextension thing, you mean? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=864473&forum_id=2#10225899) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 7:38 PM Author: carmine multi-billionaire abode yeah the thing by the window. I was doing that with a 35 pound weight and my back was prety sore (in a good way) after 10 reps and felt all swole after. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=864473&forum_id=2#10225903) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 7:43 PM Author: Floppy Khaki Stage Giraffe bah
EDIT - when you resuming deading? |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 7:44 PM Author: carmine multi-billionaire abode i promised myself I would take off two weeks totally. So next week I will see if I can get 225 okay and do that for two weeks. then maybe try 275 or 315 again.
I have to remember that, even though I feel fine now, I fucked up my back horribly on September 1 and couldnt walk for a week. Need to go slow. |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 7:49 PM Author: Floppy Khaki Stage Giraffe if you tweak your back again im fucking forcing you to see a chiropractor or some shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=864473&forum_id=2#10225947) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 7:51 PM Author: carmine multi-billionaire abode 1) I saw 3 doctors, its a strained muscle.
2) chiropractors are fucking quacks. |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 7:54 PM Author: Floppy Khaki Stage Giraffe Say sorry. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=864473&forum_id=2#10225959) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 11:10 PM Author: Clear Menage i'm starting to wonder if there's something wrong with your general approach to heavy spinal loaded lifts in general. how frequently do you deadlift/squat? for how many sets/reps? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=864473&forum_id=2#10226499) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 7:40 PM Author: Translucent Out-of-control Dingle Berry Ticket Booth a few more pounds and you'll be able to life 147 lbs of fat chick (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=864473&forum_id=2#10225906) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 8:15 PM Author: avocado shrine I can hook you up with a hot girl who puts out for $200. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=864473&forum_id=2#10226024) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 8:17 PM Author: Floppy Khaki Stage Giraffe pics? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=864473&forum_id=2#10226027) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 8:21 PM Author: avocado shrine Obviously can't do it. But I'm very serious. She is very attractive, fucks like a pornstar, is very sweet.
Also a whore. |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 8:22 PM Author: Floppy Khaki Stage Giraffe Sounds good. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=864473&forum_id=2#10226042) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 8:26 PM Author: avocado shrine Post a disposable e-mail. I will send you info when I get home.
She is Asian, though. I know you want a white girl, but... |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 8:32 PM Author: Floppy Khaki Stage Giraffe *** (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=864473&forum_id=2#10226063) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 10:45 PM Author: soul-stirring cocky school cafeteria http://www.crossfit.com/
You are all pussies. |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 10:52 PM Author: Clear Menage a strength program like the one rippetoe or starr have outlined is a superb precurson to xfit WOD type stuff. in fact, it's frequently recommended.
xfit really is great for overall fitness though |
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Date: October 3rd, 2008 10:52 PM Author: Floppy Khaki Stage Giraffe Bah. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=864473&forum_id=2#10226447) |