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you are...my fire. the one...desire, believe.

when i say iiiii want it that way
marvelous bbw
  04/05/09
*ejaculates*
claret cruise ship
  04/05/09
die, chink
Navy Den Party Of The First Part
  04/05/09
You've changed.
marvelous bbw
  04/05/09
impostor
Violet preventive strike
  04/05/09
boobpolice
Zombie-like School Cafeteria Yarmulke
  04/05/09
i have a stalker :(
marvelous bbw
  04/05/09
pardon?
Zombie-like School Cafeteria Yarmulke
  04/05/09
girl i met last night.
marvelous bbw
  04/05/09
niiiiice
Zombie-like School Cafeteria Yarmulke
  04/05/09
she wants to do this boyfriend girlfriend shit but i just wa...
marvelous bbw
  04/05/09
don't fuck with me right now. also, even if she sucks i woul...
Zombie-like School Cafeteria Yarmulke
  04/05/09
she told me at the party that she doesnt drink or have sex.
marvelous bbw
  04/05/09
ugh
Zombie-like School Cafeteria Yarmulke
  04/05/09
im going to try regardless.
marvelous bbw
  04/05/09
yeah, you certainly should, this just makes me unhappy. good...
Zombie-like School Cafeteria Yarmulke
  04/05/09
i wish i could meet women who actually have sex. :(
marvelous bbw
  04/05/09
You need to have a bit more patience with things.
cyan national indirect expression
  04/05/09
well, fortunately sex isn't the only thing you currently nee...
Zombie-like School Cafeteria Yarmulke
  04/05/09
no, it pretty much is.
marvelous bbw
  04/05/09
no, understanding women means more future sex.
Zombie-like School Cafeteria Yarmulke
  04/05/09
lol that doesn't mean anything
sexy beady-eyed temple
  04/05/09
who says that? what a weird thing to say.
Zombie-like School Cafeteria Yarmulke
  04/05/09
Why is that a weird thing to say? A lot of women claim "...
sexy beady-eyed temple
  04/05/09
True. He needs to get in good with her and in a couple of m...
cyan national indirect expression
  04/05/09
I might fuck her this afternoon.
marvelous bbw
  04/05/09
Don't try anything crazy now!
balding razzle-dazzle round eye pisswyrm
  04/05/09
She just IMed me and said she wants to take a nap in my bed.
marvelous bbw
  04/05/09
You gotta at least finger her then, dude. edit - need the...
magenta selfie kitchen
  04/05/09
IMed me randomly like 5 minutes ago.
marvelous bbw
  04/05/09
I got that bro, I mean what did she say that in response to?...
magenta selfie kitchen
  04/05/09
Nothing. My last conversation with her was like 30 minutes ...
marvelous bbw
  04/05/09
Ok... then it's in the phenomenal sign category. Just be fl...
magenta selfie kitchen
  04/05/09
I'll keep you posted.
marvelous bbw
  04/05/09
def do it... and awesome job with this, buddy. Congrats, ma...
magenta selfie kitchen
  04/05/09
Does it matter? At the very least, she wants to make-out wit...
sexy beady-eyed temple
  04/05/09
lol, it does dude... and yeah, obviously, but beyond that it...
magenta selfie kitchen
  04/05/09
I'm female. If I told a guy I want to take a nap in their be...
sexy beady-eyed temple
  04/05/09
I know... I'm saying if she's saying it out of the blue, tot...
magenta selfie kitchen
  04/05/09
LOL I spoke to soon then. Can I assume correctly that she...
sexy beady-eyed temple
  04/05/09
She's going to call me at 3, presumably when she's about to ...
marvelous bbw
  04/05/09
please don't fuck this up. But Good Luck!
sexy beady-eyed temple
  04/05/09
Awesome. act like you've been there. no big deal.
Zombie-like School Cafeteria Yarmulke
  04/05/09
lol, this will not be the case. But keep thinking positi...
sexy beady-eyed temple
  04/05/09
wtf. Has she called you yet?
sexy beady-eyed temple
  04/05/09
she facebook friended me overnight facebook IMed me AIM...
marvelous bbw
  04/05/09
and you have a problem with this BECAUSE?
sexy beady-eyed temple
  04/05/09
i dont have a problem. im just saying that im not going to ...
marvelous bbw
  04/05/09
wtf dude. This is the first girl who's actually interested i...
sexy beady-eyed temple
  04/05/09
im going to work her, don't worry.
marvelous bbw
  04/05/09
I wish I had faith in you... Btw, don't be too nice to he...
sexy beady-eyed temple
  04/05/09
yes, you fucking are. obviously be a man and don't go to som...
Zombie-like School Cafeteria Yarmulke
  04/05/09
i approve
Burgundy nighttime step-uncle's house
  04/05/09
this is better: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm1ibHUyJj...
sexy beady-eyed temple
  04/05/09
IM RICK JAMES BITCH
marvelous bbw
  04/05/09
oh junior year of HS..don't miss you at all.
sexy beady-eyed temple
  04/05/09
FUCK YO COUCH
marvelous bbw
  04/05/09
ITT A NYUUG BREAKTHROUGH!!!
balding razzle-dazzle round eye pisswyrm
  04/05/09
I'm so proud of him.
sexy beady-eyed temple
  04/05/09
siiiick
Zombie-like School Cafeteria Yarmulke
  04/05/09
I personally was just coming here to post Backstreet Boys so...
magenta selfie kitchen
  04/05/09
guys. nyuug is now *this close* to getting some at this very...
sexy beady-eyed temple
  04/05/09
i wonder how he'll screw it up. thoughts?
aromatic antidepressant drug cuckoldry
  04/05/09
accidentally call her Rowan
sexy beady-eyed temple
  04/05/09
rofl
aromatic antidepressant drug cuckoldry
  04/05/09
he'll wake up
trip lake gay wizard
  04/05/09
i'm so apprehensive. this is weird.
Zombie-like School Cafeteria Yarmulke
  04/05/09
i want this to finally fucking happen so bad, i'm half-incli...
Violet preventive strike
  04/05/09
i know, i didn't realize how emotionally invested in this i ...
Zombie-like School Cafeteria Yarmulke
  04/05/09
later this evening: gf: "why do you keep checking y...
Violet preventive strike
  04/05/09
*nods* *shakes head*
Zombie-like School Cafeteria Yarmulke
  04/05/09
bump
magenta selfie kitchen
  04/05/09
nyuug just outs himself. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N...
Purple Histrionic Rehab
  04/05/09


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Date: April 5th, 2009 12:44 PM
Author: marvelous bbw

when i say iiiii want it that way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11338386)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 1:06 PM
Author: claret cruise ship

*ejaculates*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11338512)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 12:44 PM
Author: Navy Den Party Of The First Part

die, chink

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11338392)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 12:45 PM
Author: marvelous bbw

You've changed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11338397)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 3:54 PM
Author: Violet preventive strike

impostor

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11339821)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 12:46 PM
Author: Zombie-like School Cafeteria Yarmulke

boobpolice

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11338401)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 12:46 PM
Author: marvelous bbw

i have a stalker :(

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11338402)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 12:47 PM
Author: Zombie-like School Cafeteria Yarmulke

pardon?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11338404)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 12:48 PM
Author: marvelous bbw

girl i met last night.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11338412)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 12:48 PM
Author: Zombie-like School Cafeteria Yarmulke

niiiiice

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11338413)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 12:49 PM
Author: marvelous bbw

she wants to do this boyfriend girlfriend shit but i just want to anal then dump

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11338422)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 12:52 PM
Author: Zombie-like School Cafeteria Yarmulke

don't fuck with me right now. also, even if she sucks i would recommend sleeping with her SEVERAL times at the very least so you can potentially become unsucky in bed and have a better chance of not waiting 21 years for the next one.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11338442)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 12:52 PM
Author: marvelous bbw

she told me at the party that she doesnt drink or have sex.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11338445)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 12:53 PM
Author: Zombie-like School Cafeteria Yarmulke

ugh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11338449)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 12:54 PM
Author: marvelous bbw

im going to try regardless.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11338452)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 12:55 PM
Author: Zombie-like School Cafeteria Yarmulke

yeah, you certainly should, this just makes me unhappy. good luck bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11338461)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 12:55 PM
Author: marvelous bbw

i wish i could meet women who actually have sex. :(

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11338463)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 1:02 PM
Author: cyan national indirect expression

You need to have a bit more patience with things.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11338493)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 1:22 PM
Author: Zombie-like School Cafeteria Yarmulke

well, fortunately sex isn't the only thing you currently need from women, you just need to interact with one, ideally in a romantic way, on a regular basis so you learn more about them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11338651)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 1:24 PM
Author: marvelous bbw

no, it pretty much is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11338662)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 1:24 PM
Author: Zombie-like School Cafeteria Yarmulke

no, understanding women means more future sex.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11338678)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 12:55 PM
Author: sexy beady-eyed temple

lol that doesn't mean anything

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11338462)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 12:58 PM
Author: Zombie-like School Cafeteria Yarmulke

who says that? what a weird thing to say.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11338470)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 1:00 PM
Author: sexy beady-eyed temple

Why is that a weird thing to say? A lot of women claim "they don't have sex" but that just means they don't have sex with random guys. He just needs to get on her good side, earn her trust and he should be fine. But with nyuug, it's never that easy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11338479)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 1:02 PM
Author: cyan national indirect expression

True. He needs to get in good with her and in a couple of months she'll be down to sleep with him if she really does like him this much.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11338491)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 1:03 PM
Author: marvelous bbw

I might fuck her this afternoon.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11338497)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 1:03 PM
Author: balding razzle-dazzle round eye pisswyrm

Don't try anything crazy now!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11338500)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 1:05 PM
Author: marvelous bbw

She just IMed me and said she wants to take a nap in my bed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11338506)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 1:06 PM
Author: magenta selfie kitchen

You gotta at least finger her then, dude.

edit - need the context of how she said it, buddy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11338511)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 1:08 PM
Author: marvelous bbw

IMed me randomly like 5 minutes ago.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11338517)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 1:10 PM
Author: magenta selfie kitchen

I got that bro, I mean what did she say that in response to? It's somewhere between a great sign and a phenomenal sign, depending on context. You've got a fantastic oppontunity here bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11338528)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 1:11 PM
Author: marvelous bbw

Nothing. My last conversation with her was like 30 minutes ago.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11338532)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 1:12 PM
Author: magenta selfie kitchen

Ok... then it's in the phenomenal sign category. Just be flirty back with her... let her make the strongest statements, though. That way she'll know you're interested but you don't risk coming off too over the top. And just play it natural, man - she's obviously really really into you, you're golden doing what you've been doing with her so far.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11338543)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 1:14 PM
Author: marvelous bbw

I'll keep you posted.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11338557)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 1:17 PM
Author: magenta selfie kitchen

def do it... and awesome job with this, buddy. Congrats, man, great work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11338593)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 1:08 PM
Author: sexy beady-eyed temple

Does it matter? At the very least, she wants to make-out with him.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11338518)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 1:09 PM
Author: magenta selfie kitchen

lol, it does dude... and yeah, obviously, but beyond that it definitely would. if she's saying it out of nowhere... it's an incredibly good sign.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11338522)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 1:10 PM
Author: sexy beady-eyed temple

I'm female. If I told a guy I want to take a nap in their bed, that means I want to get close to him.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11338531)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 1:13 PM
Author: magenta selfie kitchen

I know... I'm saying if she's saying it out of the blue, totally unprompted, it's an even better sign than otherwise. But it's obviously fantastic regardless.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11338554)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 1:07 PM
Author: sexy beady-eyed temple

LOL

I spoke to soon then. Can I assume correctly that she's on her way over now??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11338515)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 1:13 PM
Author: marvelous bbw

She's going to call me at 3, presumably when she's about to head over.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11338549)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 1:14 PM
Author: sexy beady-eyed temple

please don't fuck this up.

But Good Luck!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11338560)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 1:24 PM
Author: Zombie-like School Cafeteria Yarmulke

Awesome. act like you've been there. no big deal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11338670)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 1:04 PM
Author: sexy beady-eyed temple

lol, this will not be the case.

But keep thinking positive! Confidence is the key.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11338501)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 12:48 PM
Author: sexy beady-eyed temple

wtf. Has she called you yet?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11338415)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 12:49 PM
Author: marvelous bbw

she

facebook friended me overnight

facebook IMed me

AIMed me

texted me (apparently)

will call me at 3PM



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11338428)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 12:50 PM
Author: sexy beady-eyed temple

and you have a problem with this BECAUSE?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11338433)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 12:51 PM
Author: marvelous bbw

i dont have a problem. im just saying that im not going to some gay ass shit with her.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11338436)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 12:52 PM
Author: sexy beady-eyed temple

wtf dude. This is the first girl who's actually interested in you. Do whatever it takes to get into her pants. Wife her up...then sex her up. Duh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11338444)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 12:52 PM
Author: marvelous bbw

im going to work her, don't worry.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11338446)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 12:55 PM
Author: sexy beady-eyed temple

I wish I had faith in you...

Btw, don't be too nice to her. You'll end up just being her friend. But don't be too mean to her, else she'll be over you in a second. She likes you now. Please use this to your advantage.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11338460)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 12:53 PM
Author: Zombie-like School Cafeteria Yarmulke

yes, you fucking are. obviously be a man and don't go to some event (i have no idea what you're talking about) that you'll really hate but don't be stupid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11338448)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 12:47 PM
Author: Burgundy nighttime step-uncle's house

i approve

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11338406)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 12:47 PM
Author: sexy beady-eyed temple

this is better:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm1ibHUyJjA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11338409)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 12:48 PM
Author: marvelous bbw

IM RICK JAMES BITCH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11338414)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 12:49 PM
Author: sexy beady-eyed temple

oh junior year of HS..don't miss you at all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11338423)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 12:51 PM
Author: marvelous bbw

FUCK YO COUCH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11338439)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 1:20 PM
Author: balding razzle-dazzle round eye pisswyrm

ITT A NYUUG BREAKTHROUGH!!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11338627)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 1:20 PM
Author: sexy beady-eyed temple

I'm so proud of him.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11338636)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 1:23 PM
Author: Zombie-like School Cafeteria Yarmulke

siiiick

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11338659)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 1:26 PM
Author: magenta selfie kitchen

I personally was just coming here to post Backstreet Boys songs, but this is even better.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11338695)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 3:52 PM
Author: sexy beady-eyed temple

guys. nyuug is now *this close* to getting some at this very moment.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11339804)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 3:55 PM
Author: aromatic antidepressant drug cuckoldry

i wonder how he'll screw it up. thoughts?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11339831)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 3:56 PM
Author: sexy beady-eyed temple

accidentally call her Rowan

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11339838)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 3:59 PM
Author: aromatic antidepressant drug cuckoldry

rofl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11339853)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 4:00 PM
Author: trip lake gay wizard

he'll wake up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11339870)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 4:06 PM
Author: Zombie-like School Cafeteria Yarmulke

i'm so apprehensive. this is weird.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11339922)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 4:14 PM
Author: Violet preventive strike

i want this to finally fucking happen so bad, i'm half-inclined to pray to a god i don't believe in

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=968452&forum_id=2#11339988)



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Date: April 5th, 2009 4:26 PM
Author: Zombie-like School Cafeteria Yarmulke

i know, i didn't realize how emotionally invested in this i was, kinda creepy.

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Date: April 5th, 2009 4:28 PM
Author: Violet preventive strike

later this evening:

gf: "why do you keep checking your phone?"

me: "hold on babe; some asian i've never met might lose his virginity tonight. developing..."

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Date: April 5th, 2009 4:29 PM
Author: Zombie-like School Cafeteria Yarmulke

*nods*

*shakes head*

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Date: April 5th, 2009 6:29 PM
Author: magenta selfie kitchen

bump

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Date: April 5th, 2009 6:52 PM
Author: Purple Histrionic Rehab

nyuug just outs himself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2rZxCrb7iU



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