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WSJ brings good economic news: 31% of Americans are “Upper Middle Class” (li

“In 2024, about 31% of Americans were part of the uppe...
Irradiated Cuckold Pisswyrm
  04/05/26
More Americans Are Breaking Into the Upper Middle Class Res...
Sticky Pistol Newt
  04/05/26
400k HHI is literally food stamp wages
opaque crusty philosopher-king
  04/05/26
Lol. There's two classes: people who need to work to live, a...
Sticky Pistol Newt
  04/05/26
I make 60K but have Savings. More people need to Save so the...
olive startled location twinkling uncleanness
  04/05/26
But you'd need to work at some point, right? I don't mean we...
Sticky Pistol Newt
  04/05/26
find metrics by which 31% of Americans meaningfully differ f...
idiotic institution
  04/05/26
In conclusion, new US UMC = definitely not starving
idiotic institution
  04/05/26
EPAH I'm poor and can barely afford another trip to Hawaii. ...
tripping useless area
  04/05/26
"crypto" is 100% retarded. I don't have any to se...
Irradiated Cuckold Pisswyrm
  04/05/26
See we agree on something. I'm a nocoiner too. I still don't...
tripping useless area
  04/05/26
"I really hope he doesn't cut his balls off." W...
Irradiated Cuckold Pisswyrm
  04/05/26
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Sticky Pistol Newt
  04/05/26
I just think mutilation is wrong. I think it should be banne...
tripping useless area
  04/05/26
So ban all plastic surgery?
Sticky Pistol Newt
  04/05/26
I think states have the right to ban tattoos, and should ...
tripping useless area
  04/05/26
"Cutting" is subjectively perceived as self harm. ...
Irradiated Cuckold Pisswyrm
  04/05/26
Why is one harm and one self-actualization? What's the diffe...
tripping useless area
  04/05/26
I think you're being obtuse, friend. People get plastic sur...
Irradiated Cuckold Pisswyrm
  04/05/26
>>>They tithe 10% of their income to their church a...
Crystalline contagious partner parlour
  04/05/26
The Republican Party that you love so much is trying to give...
Irradiated Cuckold Pisswyrm
  04/05/26
To be fair, LMAO Imagine still being super into "...
Insane apoplectic crackhouse
  04/05/26
the guy isn't very bright and actually castrated his own chi...
exhilarant low-t station
  04/05/26
one of the things that sold me on trump is calling how hilla...
180 center tattoo
  04/05/26
TBF do you vote third-party?
Sticky Pistol Newt
  04/05/26
what?
Irradiated Cuckold Pisswyrm
  04/05/26
When I repaired my capacitor I just went to Ace Hardware for...
flushed house filthpig
  04/05/26
It is really a wonderism where so many people are getting al...
ungodly range weed whacker
  04/05/26
EPAH why are you throwing shade my way, brother?
flushed house filthpig
  04/05/26
What did I dO?
Irradiated Cuckold Pisswyrm
  04/05/26
Correction: $133k to $400k is the middle class. More than...
Concupiscible lay patrolman
  04/05/26
So I am Middle Class after all? You hear that cowshit, you s...
Violent at-the-ready parlor gay wizard
  04/05/26
Hah. The meaning of middle class is evolving. In some as...
Concupiscible lay patrolman
  04/05/26
It’s all bullshit. Americans are retarded about Class,...
Violent at-the-ready parlor gay wizard
  04/05/26
lmao
wild address
  04/06/26
They know. They're trying to gaslight us into thinking peopl...
Sticky Pistol Newt
  04/05/26
...
Fuchsia soul-stirring office
  04/05/26
hilarious how they got people to just accept hhi as a valid ...
opaque crusty philosopher-king
  04/05/26
“Just tell the people they’re rich. That will so...
hairraiser brilliant spot
  04/05/26
Upper Middle Class: Economic ability to pay for college f...
slippery gas station
  04/05/26
Quotemos: Suicide Solution
galvanic violent preventive strike step-uncle's house
  04/05/26
Prole tell: fetishizing "paying off ur house"
vibrant walnut national
  04/05/26
wealthy: leasing your homes from a holding company you own ...
180 center tattoo
  04/05/26
Yeah, I have the cash to pay off my sub-3% mortgage but I'm ...
Fuchsia soul-stirring office
  04/05/26
> In 2024, about 19% of American families were considered...
Sticky Pistol Newt
  04/05/26
amazing how they do this play w numbers
opaque crusty philosopher-king
  04/05/26
I'm guessing that in the numbers where they compare to 1979,...
Sticky Pistol Newt
  04/05/26
Leaving out housing and healthcare is hysterical. Just ignor...
coiffed misunderstood tanning salon half-breed
  04/06/26
It's so fucking retarded. They're trying to gaslight us so f...
Sticky Pistol Newt
  04/06/26
Ah I was mistaken, they're not directly basing it on general...
Sticky Pistol Newt
  04/06/26
all of the actual irl stats show that Incomes have Ascended ...
wild address
  04/06/26
Incomes have increased but life has gotten more expensive at...
Sticky Pistol Newt
  04/06/26
there are lots of Scummy traps to fuck you over, drugs every...
wild address
  04/06/26
Fair. Personally I'm a pretty high earner (Engineer) but rea...
Sticky Pistol Newt
  04/06/26
it's not obfuscated and it's taught deliberately to Business...
wild address
  04/06/26
It's obviously not obfuscated to those who seek it out. In a...
Sticky Pistol Newt
  04/06/26
this is a weird cope. you learn this stuff early on. about c...
wild address
  04/06/26
Actually they teach you that in college, it's just that you ...
Irradiated Cuckold Pisswyrm
  04/06/26
My college didn't have a core curriculum so maybe that's why...
Sticky Pistol Newt
  04/06/26
How was Evergreen anyway?
Irradiated Cuckold Pisswyrm
  04/07/26
I'm certain I never learned that, and I have abnormally good...
Sticky Pistol Newt
  04/06/26
Did you not have grandparents or something? Or were they fro...
wild address
  04/07/26
I guess it didn't occur to my parents to explain it as a kid...
Sticky Pistol Newt
  04/07/26
you are bald
Haunting unhinged theater stage
  04/06/26
my half brother is Bald and served in the IDF btw but I have...
wild address
  04/06/26
don't ever reply to me again baldboi
Haunting unhinged theater stage
  04/06/26
I could beat you up irl nbd
wild address
  04/06/26
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galvanic violent preventive strike step-uncle's house
  04/07/26
UMC status now required to afford median US house.
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Date: April 5th, 2026 12:53 AM
Author: Irradiated Cuckold Pisswyrm

“In 2024, about 31% of Americans were part of the upper middle class, up from about 10% in 1979, according to a report released this year.

The AEI report, by Stephen Rose and Scott Winship, classified a family of three earning $133,000 to $400,000 in 2024 dollars as upper middle class. Households earning more were categorized as rich.”

Excerpt From

“More Americans Are Breaking Into the Upper Middle Class”

Rachel Louise Ensign

The Wall Street Journal

https://apple.news/AO9_uc2R0QW6dAvrovCsdDA

Lmao at Disco Fries, who is “rich” in America 2026 but doesn’t even know it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49794761)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 1:05 AM
Author: Sticky Pistol Newt

More Americans Are Breaking Into the Upper Middle Class

Research shows that ranks of higher earners have grown markedly over last 50 years, while lower rungs of middle class have shrunk

By Rachel Louise Ensign | Photography by Joseph Bui for WSJ

April 4, 2026 at 9:00 pm ET

Randy Shilling went to public high school in Corpus Christi, Texas. He graduated from Texas A&M University with a petroleum engineering degree.

For the first decade of his career, he lived in an apartment and worried about paying for vacations. Then, in his early 30s, he landed a job at a chemical plant that paid about 15% more plus bonuses, and life felt smoother. Around the same time, he bought a house on a golf course in the Houston suburb of Humble, Texas. Promotions and pay raises followed, and he saved more than $3 million for retirement. Almost without realizing it, Shilling ascended into the upper middle class.

“I view myself as an average Joe. I don’t have to have a fancy car. I don’t have to have the greatest TV,” said Shilling, who is 58. “But when I want something, I go get it.”

America’s middle class is becoming wealthier as more families scale the economic ladder into higher-earning groups. New research shows that the ranks of the affluent have grown markedly over the last 50 years or so, while the lower rungs of the middle class have shrunk.

In 2024, about 31% of Americans were part of the upper middle class, up from about 10% in 1979, according to a report released this year by the right-leaning American Enterprise Institute.

There is no single, standard definition of middle class, or upper middle class, and what counts as a hefty income in one city can feel paltry in another. The AEI report, by Stephen Rose and Scott Winship, classified a family of three earning $133,000 to $400,000 in 2024 dollars as upper middle class. Households earning more were categorized as rich. The analysis looked just at incomes, not assets such as stocks or real estate.

The rise in affluence is powering an American economy built on consumer spending, and transforming the types of products and services companies offer.

These tend to be the people buying $1,700 bassinets that rock their babies to sleep, artisanal food for their dogs, pricey gym memberships, luxury cruises and spots on business-class airplane cabins.

These are also people who fret about the high cost of top colleges, and might still feel strained by rising expenses. (Yale University this year offered free tuition to students from households earning up to $200,000.)

The gains span generations. Many baby boomers, born to parents who grew up in the Great Depression, are living well on their savings, aided by steady Social Security checks and decades of stock-portfolio gains that they can now tap. Millennials, who everyone worried would be permanently set back by the 2008-09 financial crisis, are earning solid incomes, buying homes and surpassing their parents.

Many families are surprised to find that they have moved into this new economic tier, and see themselves as comfortable, not rich. They tend to have jobs that are white collar but not flashy—think accountants, not tech founders.

This doesn’t mean that all Americans are climbing the ladder. Entrenched inflation and higher prices on major necessities have pushed many families closer to the financial edge, or locked them out of homeownership. Those costs weigh on high-earning families too, and for many are the reason they don’t feel wealthy.

The AEI report divided families into five different groups by income. Three groups were in the middle: lower middle class, core middle class and upper middle class.

The authors found that more families now fall into the two highest-earning groups—upper middle class and rich—and fewer fall into the three lower-earning categories.

In 2024, about 19% of American families were considered “poor or near poor,” according to the AEI report, down from about 30% in 1979. The report defined that group as a family of three earning about $40,000 or less in 2024 dollars.

The report’s analysis used the federal poverty guidelines to determine which group a family fell into. The economists considered a family earning between five times and 15 times the poverty guideline to be in the upper middle class—thus their parameters of $133,000 to $400,000.

Upper-income groups are swelling because wages have grown faster than prices over time, especially for white-collar workers with college educations, said Winship.

A college degree gives a family a very good shot at being in this group: 55% of people with a bachelor’s degree and 68% with a graduate degree are upper middle class or rich, according to a separate 2021 analysis using a similar methodology that Rose, the AEI study’s co-author, produced at the Urban Institute as a nonresident fellow.

Married or cohabitating couples have a better shot at getting into the upper middle class—in part because they often have two incomes, and can split costs and pool their savings. More than 80% of people in the upper middle class and rich categories were in married or cohabitating households, the Urban Institute analysis found.

Gabriel Martinez’s first job out of college in 2015 was in logistics and paid $50,000 a year. The 34-year-old now earns $180,000 a year at a big technology company after a series of raises and promotions, with bonuses and stock-based compensation on top of that.

Martinez went into debt to buy an expensive car early in his career. His wife, Anna, took on more than $100,000 in student loans to pay for her master’s degree. He downgraded to a cheaper car and the couple cut expenses—such as going out to eat or buying clothes—to pay off her student loans.

Together, they now have a flush emergency savings fund and own a 1,700-square-foot home in Boerne, Texas, a town outside of San Antonio. They tithe 10% of their income to their church and can easily cover one-off costs, like a $4,000 medical bill from the birth of one of their two young children or a $1,200 HVAC system repair.

“We both grew up in households where costs like that were catastrophic,” said Martinez, whose father earned less than $40,000 a year working for the state of Texas. “I’m very grateful to live in a nation where I don’t have to stay where my dad was.”

Instead of worrying about paying for groceries, Martinez said, they worry about how to make sure their children aren’t spoiled in a town where some teens drive luxury cars to high school.

A Pew Research Center analysis using a different methodology also discovered that the share of American families in the higher-income group is growing. The analysis found that in 2023, 19% of Americans fell into an “upper income” group, up from 11% in 1971.

Pew classified upper income as those earning more than twice the median household income, so more than roughly $200,000 or more for a family of three in 2024. While inflation-adjusted incomes grew substantially for all groups, they rose much faster for the well-off families.

“Everybody is doing better, but the upper income households are especially,” said Richard Fry, a senior researcher at Pew. This group has also experienced particularly big gains in wealth thanks to rising home prices and a stock market that increased in recent years.

Even those who are happy with their own personal finances are often pessimistic about the broader economy.

Shilling and his wife, Nanci Shilling, who works in an accounting department at a different chemical plant, bring in about $220,000 a year. He drives a 2015 Ford F-150 but splurged on an in-ground pool about five years ago.

Shilling thinks he undeniably is doing better than his own parents, who didn’t go to college. But he isn’t confident that son Blake, a 23-year-old student living at home, will be able keep the upward trajectory going. “I think they’re going to struggle,” he said of his son’s generation, citing the current cost of living.

While upper-middle-class Americans can easily afford clothes and electronics, many in it still feel stretched when it comes to paying for the pillars of a prosperous life, such as owning a home and sending their children to college.

Laura Shields, 46, and her husband took on credit card debt early in their careers. Their first experience with homeownership left them with a $25,000 loss when they sold their property in the depths of the 2008-09 financial crisis. Covering monthly child-care costs for their two sons meant living paycheck to paycheck.

Shields, who lives in New Jersey, started feeling more comfortable financially only during the pandemic when, like many other Americans, she got raises at work and her expenses went down. The couple earn about $240,000 a year now, which has allowed them to pay down a lot of their credit card debt and build savings. They can now afford extras such as a school trip to Europe.

Their older son will be heading to college in less than two years and they told him that they will cover the cost of an undergraduate degree as Shields’s parents did for her. But that almost certainly will require taking out loans. “I try not to think about it,” Shields said.

Chris Wogan, 76, grew up in a row house in Philadelphia with seven siblings in the 1950s and 60s. His parents, he recalled, struggled to buy him a baseball glove. Wogan worked as a judge and a Pennsylvania state representative after attending college and law school.

Wogan brings in about $175,000 a year from pensions, with additional income from stock market investments and Social Security on top of that. He and his wife, Susan, have taken several Viking cruises in Europe and just bought a home in a Pennsylvania retirement community with an indoor pool and an outdoor pool.

“I always thought of myself as ‘middle’ middle class,” he said. “I probably did better than I thought I would do.”

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Absolutely infuriating gaslighting attempt jfc



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49794772)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 12:57 AM
Author: opaque crusty philosopher-king

400k HHI is literally food stamp wages

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49794764)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 12:57 AM
Author: Sticky Pistol Newt

Lol. There's two classes: people who need to work to live, and people whose assets generate wealth passively. Probably like 95% of us are in that first group. People who make $30K are in the same boat as people who make $300K. We're all fucked if we lose our jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49794765)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 1:06 AM
Author: olive startled location twinkling uncleanness

I make 60K but have Savings. More people need to Save so they don't end up Poor.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49794776)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 1:14 AM
Author: Sticky Pistol Newt

But you'd need to work at some point, right? I don't mean we're all fucked immediately if we lose our current job. I mean we're fucked if we can't find consistent work again. Which is a real possibility for a lot of us who work in fields that AI excels at.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49794787)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 1:01 AM
Author: idiotic institution

find metrics by which 31% of Americans meaningfully differ from the remaining 69%

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≈30.7% of adults who are overweight (BMI 25–29.9)

Source: National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey (NHANES)

This is not exactly 31%, but extremely close and often rounded to “about one‑third.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49794768)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 1:02 AM
Author: idiotic institution

In conclusion, new US UMC = definitely not starving

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49794771)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 1:06 AM
Author: tripping useless area

EPAH I'm poor and can barely afford another trip to Hawaii. Please send bitcoin to your benighted racist, transphobic friend. Cattle goyim need to enjoy Oahu too. I will put directly in my Hawaii fund.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49794777)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 1:25 AM
Author: Irradiated Cuckold Pisswyrm

"crypto" is 100% retarded. I don't have any to send you friend

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49794796)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 1:35 AM
Author: tripping useless area

See we agree on something. I'm a nocoiner too. I still don't believe in troons though. I have a friend right now who thinks he's a trans woman and is planning on cutting off his balls. I think it's insane but I haven't said anything because in real life I'm a pussy who's too polite. I only rage online to my internet friends. I really hope he doesn't cut his balls off. He's just a faggot. Not sure why he can't just be a normal gay man. Whole thing is weird as fuck. I've been completely cucked into using she her pronouns just because it's so rude to go against the grain. I'm mostly resentful that I can't just be an asshole. I feel wronged and aggrieved that I can't just call him a dude. It's terrible. He's not a bad guy though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49794801)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 1:45 AM
Author: Irradiated Cuckold Pisswyrm

"I really hope he doesn't cut his balls off."

Why so invested in the state of your homeboy's balls, friend?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49794811)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 1:46 AM
Author: Sticky Pistol Newt



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49794812)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 1:52 AM
Author: tripping useless area

I just think mutilation is wrong. I think it should be banned. Put it to you this way I wouldn't let your daughter cut herself up with razorblades either. I am just against it. I don't think you should be legally allowed to cut your balls off under the law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49794823)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 1:53 AM
Author: Sticky Pistol Newt

So ban all plastic surgery?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49794827)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 2:03 AM
Author: tripping useless area

I think states have the right to ban tattoos, and should

I think you should have to be 21 for plastic surgery

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49794835)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 1:55 AM
Author: Irradiated Cuckold Pisswyrm

"Cutting" is subjectively perceived as self harm. Nullo-fication is subjectively perceived as self-actualization. Those are very different concepts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49794829)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 2:03 AM
Author: tripping useless area

Why is one harm and one self-actualization? What's the difference to you? The meaning behind it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49794837)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 12:58 PM
Author: Irradiated Cuckold Pisswyrm

I think you're being obtuse, friend. People get plastic surgery all the time. But if you truly can't perceive on first blush a difference between that and cutting, I don't think I'll be able to explain it to you in a way that would make sense in your mind.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49795498)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 1:42 AM
Author: Crystalline contagious partner parlour

>>>They tithe 10% of their income to their church and can easily cover one-off costs, like a $4,000 medical bill from the birth of one of their two young children or a $1,200 HVAC system repair.

What kind of "HVAC system repair" can you get for $1200? I had some clown quote $400 to replace a capacitor so I shooed him away and ordered one (along with a couple of spares) for $20 each ... so what does the $1200 get? Fixing a $60 part?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49794808)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 1:43 AM
Author: Irradiated Cuckold Pisswyrm

The Republican Party that you love so much is trying to give you good news bro. Don't just reject it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49794809)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 4:50 AM
Author: Insane apoplectic crackhouse

To be fair,

LMAO

Imagine still being super into "political parties" ("thank goodness I'm smart enough to support the COOL political party that is GOOD and does the RIGHT stuff") in 2026 Weimerica. Team Blue Good, Team Red Bad!

And then not only that but you're also convinced that you're extremely intelligent and shrewd and you basically have it all figured out, unlike all of those other deluded retards out there on the internet.

Actual IRL chuckle, thanks old man.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49794895)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 6:14 AM
Author: exhilarant low-t station

the guy isn't very bright and actually castrated his own children (mystery meats that he had with a crack whore, but still) for facebook likes so this shouldn't be so surprising

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49794910)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 12:15 PM
Author: 180 center tattoo

one of the things that sold me on trump is calling how hillary for taking his money, all the loopholes the dems support, etc.

GOPe are GC hacks but at least they are earnest about it. dems are GC hacks but do performative kente cloth kneeling. its amazing that after obamas huge win on a leftist platform combined with a supermajority giving them carte blanche, and all they did is GWB 2.0 (now with baby tray racial grievances!) that people still think they are oppossed to the GC status quo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49795416)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 12:47 PM
Author: Sticky Pistol Newt

TBF do you vote third-party?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49795481)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 12:52 PM
Author: Irradiated Cuckold Pisswyrm

what?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49795486)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:20 AM
Author: flushed house filthpig

When I repaired my capacitor I just went to Ace Hardware for my replacement. I think I paid a bit over $20. Maybe like $35? But I also am a little wary of ordering cheap parts from China off Amazon. It’s performed like a champ though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49794960)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 5:23 AM
Author: ungodly range weed whacker

It is really a wonderism where so many people are getting all of these millions of dollars in their retirement accounts. I need to talk to them and see who they have paying them off.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49794903)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:20 AM
Author: flushed house filthpig

EPAH why are you throwing shade my way, brother?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49794961)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 12:46 PM
Author: Irradiated Cuckold Pisswyrm

What did I dO?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49795478)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:20 AM
Author: Concupiscible lay patrolman

Correction: $133k to $400k is the middle class.

More than $400k is the upper middle class.

You'd think WSJ would know this.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49794962)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:25 AM
Author: Violent at-the-ready parlor gay wizard

So I am Middle Class after all? You hear that cowshit, you son of a bitch

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49794963)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:45 AM
Author: Concupiscible lay patrolman

Hah.

The meaning of middle class is evolving. In some aspects it's regressing to the 19th century middle class breakdown.

No disputing that the American middle class with the incomes in the WSJ article are doing extremely well and richer than ever. What it also means is that a much larger group of people are chasing after the same limited basket of goods re neighborhoods and schools/colleges, which is why housing costs in nice areas and education costs have exploded. Those who successfully get there are in the $400k+ bracket and why the typical family colonial in a nice UMC suburb with good schools now goes for at least $1M in much of the country, even in the better flyover suburbs. You'd need a $400k income to buy a $1M house. And also why private schools are so expensive these days relative to 30 years ago. The rate of inflation in housing and education costs has outstripped official inflation, but most likely mirrors the growth in the "upper middle class." To get to the point, to have the lifestyle of a UMC family circa 1995 you'd need at least $400k.

Will say once you factor out housing/edu costs, then life is probably very good for the WSJ's "UM". Travel costs are never as cheap as they've been, a great deal of materialism is never as affordable. Food is shockingly cheap relative to income these days. 401ks and investment funds are fat and growing. It's good times.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49794983)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 9:38 AM
Author: Violent at-the-ready parlor gay wizard

It’s all bullshit. Americans are retarded about Class, I think deep down they realize they are Lowborn and experience Cognitive Dissonance (excuse the Redditism).

Just look at the UK if you need a reminder of what Class is. It has nothing to do with “income”. I could make $800,000k per annum and I’d still be Scum.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49795108)



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Date: April 6th, 2026 10:54 PM
Author: wild address

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49799213)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 12:42 PM
Author: Sticky Pistol Newt

They know. They're trying to gaslight us into thinking people are doing well. LOL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49795468)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 1:26 PM
Author: Fuchsia soul-stirring office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49795590)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 12:57 PM
Author: opaque crusty philosopher-king

hilarious how they got people to just accept hhi as a valid metric

under 600k hhi is poverty wages 800k hhi is barely middle class

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49795496)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 9:34 AM
Author: hairraiser brilliant spot

“Just tell the people they’re rich. That will solve everything.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49795099)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 9:49 AM
Author: slippery gas station

Upper Middle Class:

Economic ability to pay for college for their kids, elite colleges if smart. Paid off house in nice area. Able to build up some inheritance for their kids. ($500K+)

Middle Class:

Can pay for college for their kids at reasonable schools. Paid off house in reasonable area or making payments in nice area. Can pay for their own retirements and funerals, maybe enough left over for a nice budget vacation for their kids. ($200K+)

Working class:

Job in the trades or for the government, eventually retires into social security disability at 30.

Poor:

Drugs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49795128)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 9:52 AM
Author: galvanic violent preventive strike step-uncle's house

Quotemos: Suicide Solution

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49795132)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 9:57 AM
Author: vibrant walnut national

Prole tell: fetishizing "paying off ur house"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49795140)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 12:20 PM
Author: 180 center tattoo

wealthy: leasing your homes from a holding company you own

UMC: 3% tax-advantaged mortgages leveraged into things with double digit returns in tax-advantaged investment accounts or businesses

MC: pre-paying your mortgage or buying cash because david ramsey told you to

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49795428)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 1:26 PM
Author: Fuchsia soul-stirring office

Yeah, I have the cash to pay off my sub-3% mortgage but I'm not going to do that because I'm not a retard.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49795595)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 1:10 PM
Author: Sticky Pistol Newt

> In 2024, about 19% of American families were considered “poor or near poor,” according to the AEI report, down from about 30% in 1979. The report defined that group as a family of three earning about $40,000 or less in 2024 dollars.

Snorted out loud at this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49795527)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 1:16 PM
Author: opaque crusty philosopher-king

amazing how they do this play w numbers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49795560)



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Date: April 5th, 2026 1:19 PM
Author: Sticky Pistol Newt

I'm guessing that in the numbers where they compare to 1979, they just adjusted for general inflation, which doesn't take into account the rapidly-multiplying costs of the big-ticket items: housing, education, healthcare.

edit: I see now – they're not DIRECTLY basing it on general inflation; they're defining the categories relative to the poverty line. But my point stands because that number hardly reflects those costs either.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49795567)



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Date: April 6th, 2026 10:08 PM
Author: coiffed misunderstood tanning salon half-breed

Leaving out housing and healthcare is hysterical. Just ignore two gigantic costs and you're rich!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49799145)



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Date: April 6th, 2026 10:10 PM
Author: Sticky Pistol Newt

It's so fucking retarded. They're trying to gaslight us so fucking hard. It's almost clever because "the upper class is getting bigger" sounds similar enough to "the rich are getting richer" that morons are totally buying it on Twitter. But it's saying something completely different and untrue.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49799150)



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Date: April 6th, 2026 10:50 PM
Author: Sticky Pistol Newt

Ah I was mistaken, they're not directly basing it on general inflation; they're defining the categories relative to the poverty line. But my point stands because similarly, those numbers barely – if at all – reflect those categories. The gaslighting is off the charts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49799210)



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Date: April 6th, 2026 11:03 PM
Author: wild address

all of the actual irl stats show that Incomes have Ascended since the 70s or whatever. they were stagnant in the Gen X years but COVID took care of them.

If you can't afford a house or everything is $1,000,000k and you make $27,000k then let me explain it for you, 1.) Strict Stratification and the death of the Normal Bro, 2.) you suck, and/or 3.) The Clique System will make a Woman your boss, Kamala POTUS, a negresstard on the supreme court, a Jew owns everything, everything is Fake except Engineering which is Indian.

https://www.reddit.com/r/OptimistsUnite/comments/1howp58/even_accounting_for_inflation_every_social_class/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49799232)



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Date: April 6th, 2026 11:04 PM
Author: Sticky Pistol Newt

Incomes have increased but life has gotten more expensive at a higher pace. You're insane if you don't see that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49799234)



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Date: April 6th, 2026 11:05 PM
Author: wild address

there are lots of Scummy traps to fuck you over, drugs everywhere, legal gambling, $100k tuition, but if you don't do dumb shit you'll have like $1,000,000k nbd

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49799238)



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Date: April 6th, 2026 11:07 PM
Author: Sticky Pistol Newt

Fair. Personally I'm a pretty high earner (Engineer) but really bad with money (not a gambler thankfully) and in one of the most expensive cities. I could have $1M rn if I'd invested and lived frugally and shit. It doesn't help that financial literacy is purposefully obfuscated by The System.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49799247)



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Date: April 6th, 2026 11:18 PM
Author: wild address

it's not obfuscated and it's taught deliberately to Businessmen with like 30 fewer IQ points than you. it's just fucking insane how compound interest works and $1 invested in SPY in 1980 is like $200 now because it's all just the Stolen Earnings of Gen X

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49799266)



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Date: April 6th, 2026 11:29 PM
Author: Sticky Pistol Newt

It's obviously not obfuscated to those who seek it out. In an ideal world, it would be required in high school.

In my situation specifically, I could be doing a lot better if I'd been wiser. Definitely a skill issue. But I'm fortunate – I was able to go to a good private school without debt (cuz my UMC parents obsessively saved money for my education starting when I was born) and get high-paying jobs and stuff. But I'm about as lucky as you can get without being born into a rich family. I know many people as smart as me (and 100x more hard-working) who struggle because they didn't have those opportunities.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49799282)



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Date: April 6th, 2026 11:34 PM
Author: wild address

this is a weird cope. you learn this stuff early on. about compound interest at least. not the whole "S&P500 automatically wins the gen" thing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49799295)



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Date: April 6th, 2026 11:38 PM
Author: Irradiated Cuckold Pisswyrm

Actually they teach you that in college, it's just that you can't really conceptualize it because you don't know that in the blink of an eye you'll be a balding middle-aged lawyer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49799304)



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Date: April 6th, 2026 11:40 PM
Author: Sticky Pistol Newt

My college didn't have a core curriculum so maybe that's why I was never exposed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49799310)



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Date: April 7th, 2026 12:23 AM
Author: Irradiated Cuckold Pisswyrm

How was Evergreen anyway?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49799375)



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Date: April 6th, 2026 11:40 PM
Author: Sticky Pistol Newt

I'm certain I never learned that, and I have abnormally good memory for things I learned in school. We calculated interest-related things in early math classes but never compound interest explicitly. And we certainly never discussed the applications.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49799308)



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Date: April 7th, 2026 12:06 AM
Author: wild address

Did you not have grandparents or something? Or were they from India so they just hoarded gold? Did you just keep to yourself and Engineer things

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49799360)



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Date: April 7th, 2026 12:12 AM
Author: Sticky Pistol Newt

I guess it didn't occur to my parents to explain it as a kid and they respect me enough to let me make my own financial decisions as an adult

They don't do any fancy investments either and weren't particularly interested in accruing wealth but they also had decent salaries and weren't extravagant spenders

Not sure what grandparents have to do with it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49799365)



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Date: April 6th, 2026 11:05 PM
Author: Haunting unhinged theater stage

you are bald

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49799235)



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Date: April 6th, 2026 11:06 PM
Author: wild address

my half brother is Bald and served in the IDF btw but I have Hair

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49799239)



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Date: April 6th, 2026 11:09 PM
Author: Haunting unhinged theater stage

don't ever reply to me again baldboi

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49799250)



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Date: April 6th, 2026 11:22 PM
Author: wild address

I could beat you up irl nbd

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49799274)



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Date: April 7th, 2026 5:34 AM
Author: galvanic violent preventive strike step-uncle's house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49799570)



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Date: April 7th, 2026 5:20 AM
Author: Arousing field depressive

UMC status now required to afford median US house.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5853684&forum_id=2...#49799564)