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Why is closing Straight of Hormuz a big deal? Why no pipeline around it to Oman?

There are long-distance pipelines all over the Middle East, ...
Odious Costumed Orchestra Pit Pistol
  03/25/26
iran has never closed the strait before. they threaten to th...
Clear Thriller Locale
  03/25/26
A very small amount of foresight and care to address this wo...
Odious Costumed Orchestra Pit Pistol
  03/25/26
they fucked around with it for most of the 1980s https://en...
Magenta underhanded indian lodge coldplay fan
  03/25/26
the last time they did it was 1980 and it was only partial. ...
Crimson comical giraffe
  03/25/26
It's their big bargaining chip, and they're always threateni...
Odious Costumed Orchestra Pit Pistol
  03/25/26
seems like a good idea to me and you would think that when a...
Crimson comical giraffe
  03/25/26
cr. No will to do anything or to have any future-time orient...
Odious Costumed Orchestra Pit Pistol
  03/25/26
money being fake is part of the problem. it feels like the d...
Crimson comical giraffe
  03/25/26
$25B for a pipeline would have been a great investment and w...
Odious Costumed Orchestra Pit Pistol
  03/25/26
future historians will be puzzled by this and many other thi...
Crimson comical giraffe
  03/25/26
Sad stuff. "Why doesn't he fight back?" and all th...
Odious Costumed Orchestra Pit Pistol
  03/25/26
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Crimson comical giraffe
  03/25/26
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Magenta underhanded indian lodge coldplay fan
  03/25/26
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Filthy stock car chad
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Filthy stock car chad
  03/25/26
There's this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habshan%E2%80...
obsidian prole mother
  03/25/26
Maybe I'm retarded, but couldn't Iran easily attack a pipeli...
wine bisexual cuckold legend
  03/25/26
seems a lot easier to defend land than water. although maybe...
Crimson comical giraffe
  03/25/26
You'd think so, but they haven't done so with the Saudi pipe...
obsidian prole mother
  03/25/26
Iran feels it has some dominion over the strait and a right ...
Odious Costumed Orchestra Pit Pistol
  03/25/26
This is a strong point.
wine bisexual cuckold legend
  03/25/26
Do we have any maritime law experts who can weigh in on Iran...
Odious Costumed Orchestra Pit Pistol
  03/25/26
international maritime courts are shut down because of the g...
Crimson comical giraffe
  03/25/26
Can we get an injunction here? A TRO to preserve the status ...
Odious Costumed Orchestra Pit Pistol
  03/25/26
because of the shutdown only israelis are permitted to petit...
Crimson comical giraffe
  03/25/26
maybe I'm totally dumb but I always wondered why they didn't...
mischievous concupiscible shrine old irish cottage
  03/25/26
that's why this shit is so absurd. These oil countries have...
Adventurous Translucent Fat Ankles
  03/25/26
This is what I'm saying. They have the unlimited money spigo...
Odious Costumed Orchestra Pit Pistol
  03/25/26
To some extent I think it's a human capital issue. The oil r...
wine bisexual cuckold legend
  03/25/26
just googled it. At its widest the UAE is 250 miles wide. ...
mischievous concupiscible shrine old irish cottage
  03/25/26
Now imagine a country with an average IQ of 90 trying to do ...
wine bisexual cuckold legend
  03/25/26
...
Filthy stock car chad
  03/25/26
They benefit from the broader network of higher IQ jews inte...
wine bisexual cuckold legend
  03/25/26
panama canal is 50 miles wide
mischievous concupiscible shrine old irish cottage
  03/25/26
Did no one do the simple excercise of brainstorming "wh...
Odious Costumed Orchestra Pit Pistol
  03/25/26
theyre arabs,
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Date: March 25th, 2026 11:21 AM
Author: Odious Costumed Orchestra Pit Pistol

There are long-distance pipelines all over the Middle East, including across Saudi Arabia to the Red Sea. https://theodora.com/pipelines/middle_east_pipelines_map.jpg Why hasn't anyone extended the pipeline network to Oman?

Iran closes or threatens to close the Straight of Hormuz all the time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2...#49767826)



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Date: March 25th, 2026 11:33 AM
Author: Clear Thriller Locale

iran has never closed the strait before. they threaten to though even that is rare, but this is the first time they've actually closed it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2...#49767871)



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Date: March 25th, 2026 11:54 AM
Author: Odious Costumed Orchestra Pit Pistol

A very small amount of foresight and care to address this would have gone a long way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2...#49767941)



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Date: March 25th, 2026 12:42 PM
Author: Magenta underhanded indian lodge coldplay fan

they fucked around with it for most of the 1980s

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanker_war

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2...#49768075)



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Date: March 25th, 2026 11:25 AM
Author: Crimson comical giraffe

the last time they did it was 1980 and it was only partial.

i think the obvious answer is that a pipeline that long through the desert would be expensive and unnecessary with the strait right there, and people don't like to spend money on shit until it becomes necessary. think about all the shit we should but don't do because it's easier to kick the can down the lane.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2...#49767843)



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Date: March 25th, 2026 11:32 AM
Author: Odious Costumed Orchestra Pit Pistol

It's their big bargaining chip, and they're always threatening to do it.

The Habshan–Fujairah pipeline "only" cost $3.3B to build 10-15 years ago and is 220 miles long. Even a 4x longer pipeline at 2x the cost per mile would "only" be $25B. That's about the amount of direct US costs for this war so far.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2...#49767867)



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Date: March 25th, 2026 11:36 AM
Author: Crimson comical giraffe

seems like a good idea to me and you would think that when a looming threat is realized they would finally do it. but after covid scarcity of critical things and no significant push afterwards to make sure we're self sufficient later, i have little faith in people doing common sense things when it's immediately more profitable not to.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2...#49767881)



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Date: March 25th, 2026 11:40 AM
Author: Odious Costumed Orchestra Pit Pistol

cr. No will to do anything or to have any future-time orientation as a society or a government. It's hard to imagine this is the same country that built interstate highways and powerlines out to rural homes.

It's wild because (a) money is more fraud and fake than ever before post-covid money printer ($25B is nothing any more) and (b) it seems completely obvious that, with increasing global strife, and ME strife in particular, that you'd want a pipeline around the strait.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2...#49767897)



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Date: March 25th, 2026 11:48 AM
Author: Crimson comical giraffe

money being fake is part of the problem. it feels like the decline of rome when all the elites gave up on civic virtue and just looted because they could see the writing on the wall. people don't build things for the future when they have no faith in the future.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2...#49767918)



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Date: March 25th, 2026 11:55 AM
Author: Odious Costumed Orchestra Pit Pistol

$25B for a pipeline would have been a great investment and would have let the bacchanal continue for a few more years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2...#49767944)



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Date: March 25th, 2026 12:02 PM
Author: Crimson comical giraffe

future historians will be puzzled by this and many other things, just like we are today.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2...#49767971)



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Date: March 25th, 2026 12:22 PM
Author: Odious Costumed Orchestra Pit Pistol

Sad stuff. "Why doesn't he fight back?" and all that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2...#49768044)



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Date: March 25th, 2026 12:22 PM
Author: Crimson comical giraffe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2...#49768047)



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Date: March 25th, 2026 12:43 PM
Author: Magenta underhanded indian lodge coldplay fan



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2...#49768078)



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Date: March 25th, 2026 9:17 PM
Author: Filthy stock car chad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2...#49769320)



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Date: March 25th, 2026 11:34 AM
Author: Filthy stock car chad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2...#49767873)



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Date: March 25th, 2026 11:52 AM
Author: obsidian prole mother

There's this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habshan%E2%80%93Fujairah_oil_pipeline

Only 1.5 million barrel/day capacity, though- about 1/4 that of the Saudi pipeline to the Red Sea.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2...#49767929)



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Date: March 25th, 2026 12:05 PM
Author: wine bisexual cuckold legend

Maybe I'm retarded, but couldn't Iran easily attack a pipeline? It seems easier to disrupt than a body of water. Not saying there shouldn't be multiple systems to distribute oil, but I'm not convinced it helps much here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2...#49767981)



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Date: March 25th, 2026 12:19 PM
Author: Crimson comical giraffe

seems a lot easier to defend land than water. although maybe that defense infrastructure is part of the problem.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2...#49768028)



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Date: March 25th, 2026 12:24 PM
Author: obsidian prole mother

You'd think so, but they haven't done so with the Saudi pipeline. Maybe it's easy to repair.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2...#49768051)



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Date: March 25th, 2026 12:26 PM
Author: Odious Costumed Orchestra Pit Pistol

Iran feels it has some dominion over the strait and a right to control it. Attacking infrastructure on/under the ground in another sovereign country is another level of aggression. They've shown a willingness to go to that level, of course, but it's still a different level.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2...#49768057)



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Date: March 25th, 2026 12:30 PM
Author: wine bisexual cuckold legend

This is a strong point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2...#49768061)



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Date: March 25th, 2026 12:40 PM
Author: Odious Costumed Orchestra Pit Pistol

Do we have any maritime law experts who can weigh in on Iran's rights here? Have they consulted with counsel?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2...#49768073)



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Date: March 25th, 2026 3:28 PM
Author: Crimson comical giraffe

international maritime courts are shut down because of the government shutdown. all part of trumps grand 8-D strategy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2...#49768436)



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Date: March 25th, 2026 4:22 PM
Author: Odious Costumed Orchestra Pit Pistol

Can we get an injunction here? A TRO to preserve the status quo?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2...#49768582)



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Date: March 25th, 2026 4:31 PM
Author: Crimson comical giraffe

because of the shutdown only israelis are permitted to petition the courts at this time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2...#49768611)



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Date: March 25th, 2026 12:16 PM
Author: mischievous concupiscible shrine old irish cottage

maybe I'm totally dumb but I always wondered why they didn't make some massive canal through the UAE 100s of miles from the "straight" to avoid this issue

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2...#49768019)



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Date: March 25th, 2026 12:24 PM
Author: Adventurous Translucent Fat Ankles

that's why this shit is so absurd. These oil countries have been making trillions of $$$ for decades while knowing the Straight of Hormuz is the most important choke point in the world

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2...#49768052)



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Date: March 25th, 2026 12:36 PM
Author: Odious Costumed Orchestra Pit Pistol

This is what I'm saying. They have the unlimited money spigot going. There is a potentially combative Shia country--that is regularly provoked by the US and Israel--who has the power to slow down that spigot for all these Sunni/non-Shia countries (SA, UAE, Qatar, Kuwait, Oman). And they didn't take a tiny fraction of that unlimited money spigot flow to mitigate the inevitability that Iran would close the strait. Instead, they're paying billions for washed up soccer stars.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2...#49768072)



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Date: March 25th, 2026 1:01 PM
Author: wine bisexual cuckold legend

To some extent I think it's a human capital issue. The oil rich ME nations basically need western talent to capitalize on their resources. They seemingly aren't up to the task to make better strategic decisions with the wealth these resources generate.

They all think they need to "pivot away from oil" and create a broader economy. And the only way they can think to do this is by overspending on vanity projects (i.e. Ronaldo, impossible city projects like The Line that are sold to them by consultants who are simply milking them for fees, etc.)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2...#49768096)



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Date: March 25th, 2026 1:12 PM
Author: mischievous concupiscible shrine old irish cottage

just googled it. At its widest the UAE is 250 miles wide.

Just go a little north. Just googled the drive from ras al-khaimah to dibba UAE, and even on some round about ass way that it not at all a straight line it is a 47 mile drive

BAM, problem solved.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2...#49768111)



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Date: March 25th, 2026 1:18 PM
Author: wine bisexual cuckold legend

Now imagine a country with an average IQ of 90 trying to do this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2...#49768122)



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Date: March 25th, 2026 1:51 PM
Author: Filthy stock car chad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2...#49768190)



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Date: March 25th, 2026 2:34 PM
Author: wine bisexual cuckold legend

They benefit from the broader network of higher IQ jews internationally. And I assume they have a larger pool of 120+ IQ jews within their borders as well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2...#49768294)



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Date: March 25th, 2026 3:12 PM
Author: mischievous concupiscible shrine old irish cottage

panama canal is 50 miles wide

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2...#49768384)



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Date: March 25th, 2026 2:18 PM
Author: Odious Costumed Orchestra Pit Pistol

Did no one do the simple excercise of brainstorming "what are the 5 most significant threats to our unlimited black gold oil spigot and what can we do to mitigate them?" They don't have to engineer the pipeline. They just needed to decide to proactively address this and hire someone to do so.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2...#49768258)



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Date: March 25th, 2026 12:31 PM
Author: flatulent primrose corner

theyre arabs,

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2...#49768062)



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Date: March 25th, 2026 9:17 PM
Author: purple whorehouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5849630&forum_id=2...#49769318)