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Leopold Aschenbrenner essay on the AI arms race that will change world by 2027

Really good read and a podcast he did about it. Dude is ver...
lime lay persian
  06/12/24
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lime lay persian
  06/12/24
pretty chill that the world will end in five years and I spe...
arousing citrine mexican candlestick maker
  06/12/24
It’s part of the data set
lime lay persian
  06/12/24
...
hateful hospital partner
  06/12/24
*superintelligent AI addressing the world* "I'm gay an...
Laughsome Olive Stain
  06/12/24
180000000000000000000000000000
hateful hospital partner
  06/12/24
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lime lay persian
  06/14/24
He just had another podcast with Chollet that was interestin...
Mahogany Lascivious Casino Pozpig
  06/12/24
nothing being done in "ai" right now is a road to ...
Mentally impaired deranged trump supporter trailer park
  06/12/24
This is not right. The trend lines are clear.
lime lay persian
  06/13/24
no
Mentally impaired deranged trump supporter trailer park
  06/13/24
Most people seem like pattern matchers who aren’t able...
Mahogany Lascivious Casino Pozpig
  06/13/24
llms far surpass humans at defined, stereotyped tasks that w...
Mentally impaired deranged trump supporter trailer park
  06/13/24
I agree with this but most people suck at dealing with novel...
Mahogany Lascivious Casino Pozpig
  06/13/24
this is silly
Mentally impaired deranged trump supporter trailer park
  06/13/24
I, for one, cant wait for AI to do all my TPS reports for me...
Exciting mediation
  06/13/24
The interesting thing about his essay is the geopolitics par...
lime lay persian
  06/13/24
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lime lay persian
  06/16/24
Ivanka read it and endorsed it. Can’t believe how much...
Mahogany Lascivious Casino Pozpig
  10/27/24
There’s like a five percent chance of total destructio...
lime lay persian
  10/27/24
And the other scenarios? I don’t see much room for an ...
Mahogany Lascivious Casino Pozpig
  10/27/24
pretty sure something like Idiocracy covers most of the 90%
Godawful electric windowlicker love of her life
  10/27/24
Nope. It's going to be a post-scarcity utopia, extinction, o...
harsh crotch market
  10/27/24
Right. Like what would be a plausible middle ground with hyp...
Mahogany Lascivious Casino Pozpig
  10/27/24
...
lime lay persian
  11/01/24
Where r we on this
.,.,.,.,,,,.,,.,.,.,...,,..,,
  07/31/26
We are currently at a point where AI has surpassed almost al...
The Penis
  07/31/26
lol we’ve got a live one here folks
.,.,.,.,,,,.,,.,.,.,...,,..,,
  07/31/26
Do you think you are more intelligent than Claude Fable?
The Penis
  07/31/26
Yes
.,.,.,.,,,,.,,.,.,.,...,,..,,
  07/31/26
At what?
valar vettiri morghulis
  07/31/26
He seems extremely gay (but I guess he isn't?) https://x....
Ceci n'est pas un pumo
  07/31/26
That’s what Alpha zoomers look and sound like now
valar vettiri morghulis
  07/31/26
lol at this super genius being a) right and b) blowing up hi...
valar vettiri morghulis
  07/31/26


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Date: June 12th, 2024 3:47 PM
Author: lime lay persian

Really good read and a podcast he did about it. Dude is very smart.

tl;dr version: superintelligence is within reach and the capex to get there is being spent, the teams are being assembled, the power plants built, etc.; eventually US government will step in to oversee the project as a kind of Manhattan Project because a six-month head start is the equivalent of 20-30 years in arms development; things get really weird from a game theory perspective once superintelligence is achieved but before the robots take over. It's US v. China with the Middle East and Russia posing major risks because of their abundant natural energy resources.

Essay: https://situational-awareness.ai/

Four-hour podcast: https://www.dwarkeshpatel.com/p/leopold-aschenbrenner

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2...#47740848)



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Date: June 12th, 2024 4:28 PM
Author: lime lay persian



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Date: June 12th, 2024 4:50 PM
Author: arousing citrine mexican candlestick maker

pretty chill that the world will end in five years and I spend my precious remaining days poasting on a decrepit law school admissions forum

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2...#47741056)



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Date: June 12th, 2024 6:14 PM
Author: lime lay persian

It’s part of the data set

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2...#47741277)



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Date: June 12th, 2024 7:22 PM
Author: hateful hospital partner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2...#47741556)



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Date: June 12th, 2024 7:25 PM
Author: Laughsome Olive Stain

*superintelligent AI addressing the world*

"I'm gay and retarded"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2...#47741568)



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Date: June 12th, 2024 7:26 PM
Author: hateful hospital partner

180000000000000000000000000000

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2...#47741570)



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Date: June 14th, 2024 9:03 PM
Author: lime lay persian



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2...#47748063)



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Date: June 12th, 2024 7:22 PM
Author: Mahogany Lascivious Casino Pozpig

He just had another podcast with Chollet that was interesting and raised some concerns about this LLM maximalist point of view. LLMs still perform quite poorly on ARC. There are real concerns that transformer scaling will not address all the problems with out of distribution generalization and algorithmic reasoning. This buys a bit of time and probably pushes out timelines past 2027. Things will become progressively weirder though over the next decade and it’s hard to see how AGI is out more than 15 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2...#47741554)



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Date: June 12th, 2024 7:29 PM
Author: Mentally impaired deranged trump supporter trailer park

nothing being done in "ai" right now is a road to actual intelligence. what we have right now is essentially a sophisticated version of a database that can accept unstructured queries and that can interpolate between dataset entries. it would take a complete paradigm shift to get to something qualitatively more powerful than that. may or may not happen.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2...#47741579)



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Date: June 13th, 2024 11:34 AM
Author: lime lay persian

This is not right. The trend lines are clear.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2...#47743102)



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Date: June 13th, 2024 12:51 PM
Author: Mentally impaired deranged trump supporter trailer park

no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2...#47743420)



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Date: June 13th, 2024 1:23 PM
Author: Mahogany Lascivious Casino Pozpig

Most people seem like pattern matchers who aren’t able to robustly deal with novel situations. I would trust GPT-4 more to solve a random math word problem or answer RC questions from an LSAT than most people. The interpolation/extrapolation distinction becomes less and less meaningful in high dimensional spaces when you are training on everything. I agree LLMs don’t go all the way but they very likely go a lot further than they do now and there are other things in the AI space used for game playing that look like they can be combined with LLMs to bootstrap capabilities.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2...#47743513)



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Date: June 13th, 2024 2:01 PM
Author: Mentally impaired deranged trump supporter trailer park

llms far surpass humans at defined, stereotyped tasks that we have a lot of data for. they can't generalize to unseen environments (new probability distributions) and they lack an inherent teleology to prompt them interact with those environments.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2...#47743680)



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Date: June 13th, 2024 2:47 PM
Author: Mahogany Lascivious Casino Pozpig

I agree with this but most people suck at dealing with novel situations too and they can’t even do the routine cognitive tasks that GPT-4 excels at. I don’t think a median human could be made competitive with it at reading comprehension tasks. With 100x the training compute, there is no chance. There is really no principled reason why LLMs paired with model based RL couldn’t be made data efficient and adaptable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2...#47743890)



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Date: June 13th, 2024 4:14 PM
Author: Mentally impaired deranged trump supporter trailer park

this is silly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2...#47744229)



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Date: June 13th, 2024 11:39 AM
Author: Exciting mediation

I, for one, cant wait for AI to do all my TPS reports for me. Whatever will I do once those are automated? Never mind that basically everything we do in Compliance is bespoke transaction monitoring and the vanilla bulk transaction stuff was automated 24-25 years ago and hasnt had humans involved in a generation anyway.

Like the biggest thing is Compliance now is marijuana and the hemp exemption BS that plagues us. The fuck is AI going to do about any of that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2...#47743117)



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Date: June 13th, 2024 11:43 AM
Author: lime lay persian

The interesting thing about his essay is the geopolitics part. The time when AGI is pursued by private companies is coming to a close.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2...#47743136)



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Date: June 16th, 2024 7:28 PM
Author: lime lay persian



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Date: October 27th, 2024 3:00 PM
Author: Mahogany Lascivious Casino Pozpig

Ivanka read it and endorsed it. Can’t believe how much AI is starting to affect elite thinking

https://x.com/IvankaTrump/status/1839002887600370145

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2...#48246542)



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Date: October 27th, 2024 5:15 PM
Author: lime lay persian

There’s like a five percent chance of total destruction and a five percent chance of positive total transformation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2...#48247027)



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Date: October 27th, 2024 6:20 PM
Author: Mahogany Lascivious Casino Pozpig

And the other scenarios? I don’t see much room for an outcome in between.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2...#48247316)



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Date: October 27th, 2024 6:22 PM
Author: Godawful electric windowlicker love of her life

pretty sure something like Idiocracy covers most of the 90%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2...#48247323)



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Date: October 27th, 2024 6:24 PM
Author: harsh crotch market

Nope. It's going to be a post-scarcity utopia, extinction, or some sort of truly weird outcome like everyone being uploaded into a simulation of something retarded for eternity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2...#48247333)



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Date: October 27th, 2024 8:36 PM
Author: Mahogany Lascivious Casino Pozpig

Right. Like what would be a plausible middle ground with hyper intelligent machines? You would have to believe intelligence tops at exactly the human level, when we have many reasons for believing that is not the case. Life can not go on in a normal way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2...#48247755)



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Date: November 1st, 2024 9:37 PM
Author: lime lay persian



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2...#48270046)



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Date: July 31st, 2026 12:16 AM
Author: .,.,.,.,,,,.,,.,.,.,...,,..,,


Where r we on this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2...#50035998)



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Date: July 31st, 2026 12:23 AM
Author: The Penis

We are currently at a point where AI has surpassed almost all if not all humans in intelligence. And it's not even 2027 yet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2...#50036002)



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Date: July 31st, 2026 12:25 AM
Author: .,.,.,.,,,,.,,.,.,.,...,,..,,


lol we’ve got a live one here folks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2...#50036007)



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Date: July 31st, 2026 12:26 AM
Author: The Penis

Do you think you are more intelligent than Claude Fable?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2...#50036009)



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Date: July 31st, 2026 12:45 AM
Author: .,.,.,.,,,,.,,.,.,.,...,,..,,


Yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2...#50036028)



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Date: July 31st, 2026 4:46 PM
Author: valar vettiri morghulis

At what?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2...#50037372)



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Date: July 31st, 2026 1:57 AM
Author: Ceci n'est pas un pumo

He seems extremely gay (but I guess he isn't?)

https://x.com/dnapway/status/2082876150322540657

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2...#50036052)



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Date: July 31st, 2026 4:46 PM
Author: valar vettiri morghulis

That’s what Alpha zoomers look and sound like now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2...#50037373)



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Date: July 31st, 2026 4:46 PM
Author: valar vettiri morghulis

lol at this super genius being a) right and b) blowing up his fund with leverage and c) having to sell all his positions to Citadel.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5539938&forum_id=2...#50037370)