Finished Watching The World At War (26 Ep 70s WW2 Documentary). Very 180
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Date: January 4th, 2026 9:01 PM Author: Opaque motley locale
this has to be one of the best historical documentaries ever made. wife and i watched it over the past 1-2 months, and it's well worth it. everyone should watch this.
the footage is amazing. we've all seen plenty of ww2 movies, but seeing real footage is more dramatic than seeing hollywood sensationalism.
the interviews really make the series. it's utterly impressive how the production managed to secure interview with such high ranking people from all sides -- hitler's valet and hitler's secretary (who were literally in the bunker when hitler killed himself, the former who burned hitler's body), albert speer (nazi cabinet officer who was convicted at nuremburg), himler's #2, etc.
lawrence olivier is the narrator, but the interviewers really tell the story. the production really do a good job at telling the story through people who lived the war -- high ranking government people, rank and file soldiers, and civilians.
they also did a great job showing the german, russian and japanese sides of things in a fair way that made the viewer, not the production, be the judge of what's the truth so it didn't seem like pro-western propaganda.
wife's main complaint was that she didn't like how the storytelling wasn't chronological. the episodes are thematic. so the series moves back and forth in time. wife thought that harms the ability of the series to tell a coherent story from A to Z. i figured it's impossible to do a good job of covering a three-front war in strictly chronological order and didn't mind the editorial discretion to run the series topically.
all in all, everyone should watch this. i learned an absolute ton.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2...#49562716)
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Date: January 4th, 2026 9:17 PM Author: Opaque motley locale
my prior knowledge of ww2 is mainly: big big big 1) the jewish story (nazi ideology, jews being persecuted, holocaust, etc), and 2) the US-centric version that i learned in ap us history and in major US movies (we stayed out of the war, pearl harbor, d-day, a-bomb).
i previously knew almost nothing about the pacific war. i'd heard the battle names -- midway, iwo jima, saipan, etc. but i had no perspective on what they were and how they happened and the chain of events and strategies and struggles of each country. i also didn't virtually anything about all proxy wars that the japs fought the west in -- phillipines, burma, etc.
i also knew very little about the eastern front and the battles in north africa. i knew the very big stuff on the most superficial level, but didn't know the details of these struggles and how they related to the overall global war strategies of the major players. i didn't really understand what anyone was doing in north africa until now.
aside from timelines and war x's and o's, i learned a lot of the social and human perspectives on the war told through the stories of people. you don't get this kind of stuff in the movies.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2...#49562758) |
Date: January 4th, 2026 9:26 PM Author: Aqua abnormal space sound barrier
Unmitigated 180
It couldn't be made today because the subjects interviewed are long dead, it covers the German perspective, and it's quite detailed and in depth.
With respect to the interviews: All history writing (and documenteries and lectures) is biased and incomlete. At least with works produced shortly after the events, like this one, we can hear directly from the sources. History content created later is largely an invention of its creator and probably laughably off the mark in most cases.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2...#49562779) |
Date: January 4th, 2026 9:52 PM Author: Opaque motley locale
one moment that sticks with me is curtis lemay defending our use of the bomb by saying that us troops were tired and emotionally worn out from all the tough fighting. obviously there's more to it than that, but i think he may have either put his foot in his mouth a bit or was quoted out of context. they used this quote juxtaposed with other powerful people talking about the necessity of the bomb and its implications.
i'm no shitlib pacifist and fuck the japs, but the use of the bomb really makes you question humanity.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2...#49562831) |
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Date: January 5th, 2026 2:46 AM Author: Charismatic up-to-no-good pit pozpig
Read tennozan by George feifer.
Okinawa is the definitive argument for the bomb.
Lemay, of course, was a psychopath
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2...#49563256) |
Date: January 4th, 2026 10:15 PM Author: Medicated dead telephone mother
i'd recommend two books about the Pacific Theatre:
Eugene Sledge’s memoir, "With the Old Breed"
Richard Tregaskis, "Guadalcanal Diary"
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2...#49562897)
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Date: January 4th, 2026 10:33 PM Author: azure spectacular hell
Daily Motion has them all:
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x94t5kc
Go to 50:04 to see the genius of this production - they use the distant refrains of the "Wenn Wir Marschieren" marching song on top of videos of Germans surrendering outside Moscow to create a mood. Poignant as fuck.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2...#49562959) |
Date: January 5th, 2026 2:24 AM Author: Effete thriller school cafeteria lettuce
I watched this all I learned was that Eva Braun was a babe in her prime. Cotdamn.
Combine with Albert Speer's postwar quote on her at Hitler's relationship. "She was for bed."
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2...#49563244) |
Date: January 5th, 2026 11:38 AM Author: Razzle shimmering institution
looks like most of the series is on YT for free..
first episode
https://youtu.be/0b4g4ZZNC1E
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5817360&forum_id=2...#49563773) |
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