Why universal child care harms children
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Date: January 8th, 2026 11:27 AM
Author: .........,,.,.,.,.,,,,,,.,.,.,.,.,. ( )
Lmao https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2025/11/05/universal-child-care-can-harm-children
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Date: January 8th, 2026 11:29 AM
Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,
paywall: https://archive.ph/7vLMA
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2...#49572103) |
Date: January 8th, 2026 11:31 AM
Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,
i'm 5 paragraphs in and the author hasnt presented his thesis. jfc this is bad writing. can someone summarize.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2...#49572128) |
Date: January 8th, 2026 11:35 AM Author: cowgod
If your mom “works” and she didn’t ace OCI, you’re basically fucked. This should not be normalized. If you don’t have Rides to ECs or Practice you’re going to bomb OCI and die of an overdose.
The $3000k/mo that people spend can’t be justified imho fwiw
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2...#49572150) |
Date: January 8th, 2026 11:37 AM Author: FUCK LIBS (TDNW)
moms need to be with their kids for the first two years, not two weeks
would be better to spend federal funds on longer maternal leave rather than daycare scams
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2...#49572157) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 9:09 PM
Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,
babies need to eat every 2-3 hours
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2...#49574088) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 9:55 PM
Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,
(female shrew)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2...#49574250) |
Date: January 8th, 2026 12:02 PM Author: me mum died in the holly (TT6)
Core claim: Universal, heavily subsidized child care — especially from birth — can have negative effects on children’s development if implemented poorly or on too broad a scale.
Quality matters: The piece argues that universal programs often end up low-quality because they’re cheaper, scaled quickly, and can’t provide the one-on-one interaction infants need — meaning universal from-birth care can harm more than help.
Bottom line: The article isn’t saying all child care is bad. It’s asserting that universal child care as currently being rolled out in some places — particularly from birth and without enough quality controls — might harm child development because of rushed scaling, low adult-child ratios, and insufficient individual interaction opportunities.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2...#49572305) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 12:31 PM
Author: .........,,.,.,.,.,,,,,,.,.,.,.,.,. ( )
People love 3k in NYC. I don’t know who leaves their infants with strangers but I could see having universal 1.5k or 2k.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2...#49572399) |
Date: January 8th, 2026 12:43 PM Author: middle-aged azn losing his entire NW on crypto gam
I mean as a general statement this is based and completely correct
I'm not going to read some brown kike's drivel about it in "The Economist" though
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2...#49572443) |
Date: January 8th, 2026 12:57 PM
Author: ....,.,.;;;,.,,:,.,.,::,.....,:,..,..
universal anything makes things worse for most people except for a small percentage of poors who just want free shit
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2...#49572476) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 1:59 PM
Author: ....,.,.;;;,.,,:,.,.,::,.....,:,..,..
this is true when it comes to healthcare. people are in fact better off paying for higher quality care they can afford vs. getting free shitcare (that they pay taxes for anyways).
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2...#49572615) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 3:14 PM
Author: ....,.,.;;;,.,,:,.,.,::,.....,:,..,..
I enjoy having the option to purchase better things that poor people can't afford. "universal" healthcare eliminates that option.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2...#49572891) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 3:49 PM
Author: ....,.,.;;;,.,,:,.,.,::,.....,:,..,..
"other countries" those docs make like $65K and don't even know how to speak american
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2...#49573020) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 3:54 PM
Author: ....,.,.;;;,.,,:,.,.,::,.....,:,..,..
it actually is horrible. having shitty healthcare because your country is run by communists kind of sucks. at least you get to pay $50K in payroll taxes to save $5K in insurance premiums!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2...#49573035) |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 9:41 AM
Author: ....,.,.;;;,.,,:,.,.,::,.....,:,..,..
cr. it's way higher than 30%
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2...#49575175) |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 9:46 AM
Author: ....,.,.;;;,.,,:,.,.,::,.....,:,..,..
so you pay massive taxes, still have to pay for private insurance, and wind up with worse care? can you fuckheads finally stfu with the "every other country" nonsense. it's been like 30 years of retarded shit.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2...#49575183) |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 11:18 AM
Author: ....,.,.;;;,.,,:,.,.,::,.....,:,..,..
we're talking about America. no one gives a fuck and your third world street shitter ladyboy diddling bullshit
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2...#49575480) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:20 PM
Author: ....,.,.;;;,.,,:,.,.,::,.....,:,..,..
(guy who has never lived in America)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2...#49573135) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:25 PM
Author: ....,.,.;;;,.,,:,.,.,::,.....,:,..,..
you are really stupid then
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2...#49573168) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 4:26 PM
Author: ....,.,.;;;,.,,:,.,.,::,.....,:,..,..
(guy who thinks paying 20% of your income in payroll taxes for 20 years to avoid this fate is not paying for the healthcare of others)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2...#49573174) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 5:03 PM
Author: ....,.,.;;;,.,,:,.,.,::,.....,:,..,..
why would I be better off paying $50K in taxes instead of $7600 or whatever it is now into an HSA every year?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2...#49573323) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 5:22 PM Author: me mum died in the holly (TT6)
if you are a top 1%er, than its probably better off for you that society doesnt use taxes to help cover basic needs from a direct tax perspective.
even Musk cant use a billion dollars of healthcare a year, so he would never be better off financially.
but for the 99% of americans, yes having a basic need met by the society that they live in would be good for them and for society.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2...#49573391) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 5:55 PM
Author: ....,.,.;;;,.,,:,.,.,::,.....,:,..,..
how would those 99% of Americans having less money and fewer/more expensive options for healthcare make them better off?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2...#49573512) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 9:57 PM Author: ...,....,,........
You must be fucking retarded.
How would they have "more expensive options for healthcare" if the govt became the Single Payer?
Why the Govt allow healthcare providers to charge whatever they want for medical treatment?
They don't do that shit with Medicare/Medicaid/Tricare, so why would they START doing that with Universal?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2...#49574277) |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 9:49 AM
Author: ....,.,.;;;,.,,:,.,.,::,.....,:,..,..
the single payer options would be dogshit and you'd have to pay out the ass to get private care, in addition to the 20% payroll taxes that would be needed to fund this shit.
you don't even need to look at medicare or other countries. I live in a state that has universal medicaid for children. you can either be part of that racket and literally wait 6-8 months to see a Dr or pay WLRK 3rd year rates to see ppl outside the system.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2...#49575191) |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 9:56 AM
Author: ....,.,.;;;,.,,:,.,.,::,.....,:,..,..
once you put in a massive entitlement system it's near impossible to get rid of it you fuckhead. look at how libs are shrieking about covid era aca subsidies that were supposed to be temporary going away, or how demigod Obama couldn't pull back the Bush tax cuts or get us out of Iraq.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2...#49575217) |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 9:59 AM
Author: ....,.,.;;;,.,,:,.,.,::,.....,:,..,..
everyone in America has access to healthcare and it is better quality than the third world shitholes you ran to bc your a pedo
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2...#49575233) |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 11:19 AM
Author: ....,.,.;;;,.,,:,.,.,::,.....,:,..,..
no it isn't
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2...#49575482) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 5:58 PM
Author: ....,.,.;;;,.,,:,.,.,::,.....,:,..,..
brb going to thailand to get a knee replacement from some gook who makes less than the guy who mows my lawn at a hospital that doesn't have indoor plumbing
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2...#49573524) |
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Date: January 8th, 2026 8:41 PM
Author: ....,.,.;;;,.,,:,.,.,::,.....,:,..,..
lol you let a third world doc who has never washed his hands in his life operate on you?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2...#49574022) |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 9:59 AM
Author: ....,.,.;;;,.,,:,.,.,::,.....,:,..,..
i'm sure your totally real doc from hopkins passed up millions in potential income to go to thailand and make as much as a janitor here. he must be that committed to wanting to fuck 11 year olds.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2...#49575227) |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 11:21 AM
Author: ....,.,.;;;,.,,:,.,.,::,.....,:,..,..
it seems like his definition of QOL is having access to underage boys to buttfuck
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2...#49575491) |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 12:58 PM Author: Yummy Phase Pol Pot
The thread is about universal childcare, which is a disaster.
Regarding the healthcare the military receives, I'm not sure that it's all that great given the amount of issues the VA has had. Seems like a total disaster overall.
Bigger issue (which I think you probably agree on) is that people think "free for everyone" will also mean "free and really good for everyone." But "free for everyone" just means "free" and quality gets pushed down because personal services don't scale without people and the quality of people decreases the more you bring into any system.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2...#49575881) |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 2:44 PM Author: me mum died in the holly (TT6)
What a n00b so I'll be nice.
VA and active duty military gets 2 different healthcare systems. For active: TRICARE covers everything: primary care, specialists, hospital care, prescriptions. Its a full-service healthcare, similar to a national health system.
For VA, its a closed network, doesn't target all health conditions, and isn't national so where you live matters.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2...#49576474) |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 10:15 AM
Author: .........,,.,.,.,.,,,,,,.,.,.,.,.,. ( )
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2...#49575288) |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 11:25 AM
Author: .........,,.,.,.,.,,,,,,.,.,.,.,.,. ( )
Nah, you go back.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2...#49575509) |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 2:09 PM Author: Yummy Phase Pol Pot
With regards to healthcare, I don't disagree necessarily. But that's because the current healthcare system in America is effectively a system to have money flow through a series of PE-backed companies that add little-to-no value (or extract value at the cost of the consumer) and megacorps that centralize everything to become a sort of oligopoly version of single payer healthcare (just look at CVS). We basically have a frankenstein system whose sole purpose is to let certain people skim off of transactions.
Given how much high earners need to spend on health insurance, particularly if they don't work at a large corporation, it is absolutely worse than a normal single payer program. Especially if you have a family (or are starting one.)
The issue more broadly in America and in places with single payer healthcare is that people's expectations of the healthcare system are way too high. Far too many people abdicate personal responsibility and good habits that would keep them out of the system. Instead, they look to the healthcare system to keep them healthy regardless of their own choices.
And if you look at places like the UK, this is increasingly a problem. Their National Health Service is in dire straits on account of this. Especially as the quality of their demographics shifts dramatically.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2...#49576291) |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 2:50 PM Author: me mum died in the holly (TT6)
A national health plan should make 90% of things cheap and easy to get.
If you get cancer and its state 3 or 4? Well that's what private pay or insurance is for. But you broke a bone? Here's an x-ray and cast for $10.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2...#49576497)
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Date: January 9th, 2026 9:34 AM
Author: .........,,.,.,.,.,,,,,,.,.,.,.,.,. ( )
Almost nobody in NYC can actually afford child care. It’s 3k per kid in NYC, which is about the price of a studio apartment in Brooklyn.
Really shocked to see poor MAGA people coming out against this in NY. I’ve never seen someone irl say they didn’t like 3k. It’s just a credit to existing daycares to cover the cost.
Idk at what salary can you even afford to have two kids in NYC without this?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2...#49575157) |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 10:53 AM
Author: .........,,.,.,.,.,,,,,,.,.,.,.,.,. ( )
Well that’s what everyone is commenting on right now bc it’s happening. They seem to care quite a bit.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2...#49575398) |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 1:31 PM
Author: .........,,.,.,.,.,,,,,,.,.,.,.,.,. ( )
In NYC you need Universal Childcare at 200-250k. Went to an open house for a local day care and there were a decent amount of attorneys there.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2...#49576098) |
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Date: January 9th, 2026 3:36 PM
Author: .........,,.,.,.,.,,,,,,.,.,.,.,.,. ( )
Or why not just have universal 3k. It’s basically the only program that actually helps the middle class.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2...#49576703) |
Date: January 9th, 2026 1:01 PM Author: Yummy Phase Pol Pot
Thinking more about this, the entire premise is basically evil when you consider *why* rags like The Economist push for it. It's not that they necessarily want the best outcomes for children, rather they simply want more people in the workforce full-time without breaks to "grow" GDP. Even if growing GDP just means more transactions and less actual value created through value-added production.
Seeing nominal GDP grow is more important to these "people" than healthy families because they are completely fucking insane.
Even if, somehow, universal childcare could be rolled out where every kid has one-on-one attention at all times, it will never equate to being at home with a loving mother.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5819074&forum_id=2...#49575893) |
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