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#Tennis Teen Learner Tien cops US Open Wild Card

Plays Learned Handed like Dr Nadal! https://www.itftennis...
Beady-eyed Mental Disorder
  08/17/22
Anyone on XO who doesn't boycott the US Open this year (whic...
vigorous garrison
  08/17/22
This is such bullshit I hate libs Joker is the best ever the...
ungodly school
  08/17/22
cr. this and the AO are frauds
stimulating poppy sweet tailpipe stain
  08/20/22
Learner in the AO Bois SFs after taking out Bulgarian 2 seed...
Beady-eyed Mental Disorder
  01/26/23
looks like he's going to USC https://usctrojans.com/news/...
stimulating poppy sweet tailpipe stain
  01/26/23
Why you no go to Harvard https://www.tennisrecruiting.ne...
Beady-eyed Mental Disorder
  01/26/23
holy shit rofl
stimulating poppy sweet tailpipe stain
  01/26/23
zootennis is a big Tien fan! https://twitter.com/zootenni...
Beady-eyed Mental Disorder
  01/26/23
Learner is currently live on ESPN+
Beady-eyed Mental Disorder
  01/26/23
Learner up a set and a break Meanwhile zootennis poasting...
Beady-eyed Mental Disorder
  01/26/23
Learner in singles final and the left handed banana winner f...
Beady-eyed Mental Disorder
  01/27/23
180, but wtf jr has no-ad.. or just doubles?
stimulating poppy sweet tailpipe stain
  01/27/23
Must be doubles. I watched the singles match and they had de...
Beady-eyed Mental Disorder
  01/27/23
very halfordian watching the bois any notable tien girls...
stimulating poppy sweet tailpipe stain
  01/27/23
The Junior girls finals is between Mirra Andreeva and Alina ...
Beady-eyed Mental Disorder
  01/27/23
GORGEOUS finale
stimulating poppy sweet tailpipe stain
  01/27/23
More nominative determinism wow
mint lodge cuck
  01/27/23
This NOWAG is getting precious XO board time because his nam...
Obsidian depressive
  01/27/23
I poast about #nextgen teens teens all the time. Here&rs...
Beady-eyed Mental Disorder
  01/27/23
#back2back https://twitter.com/zootennis/status/169082235...
Beady-eyed Mental Disorder
  08/13/23
Got blown out by Big Foe but now in Boys final. Girls fi...
Beady-eyed Mental Disorder
  09/09/23
Learner loses but Katherine wins! USA womyn double up today ...
Beady-eyed Mental Disorder
  09/09/23
We’re neighbors
crawly cheese-eating headpube
  09/09/23
U should ask for his stylist, his hair looks very feathery ...
Beady-eyed Mental Disorder
  09/09/23
katherin hui cheering on learner's double faults, wearing a ...
stimulating poppy sweet tailpipe stain
  09/09/23
Joao handsome https://www.itftennis.com/en/players/joao-f...
Beady-eyed Mental Disorder
  09/09/23
lol katherine wearing her stanford sweatshirt taunting le...
stimulating poppy sweet tailpipe stain
  09/09/23
Lol at this trophy for ANTS https://twitter.com/christoph...
Beady-eyed Mental Disorder
  09/09/23
sup ironside? i noticed that too. did they change the tro...
stimulating poppy sweet tailpipe stain
  09/09/23
Yeah, I’m seeing glass trophies a few years back. Coco...
Beady-eyed Mental Disorder
  09/09/23
Tommy Paul with the glass plate in 2015 https://cdn.shopi...
Beady-eyed Mental Disorder
  09/09/23
...
stimulating poppy sweet tailpipe stain
  09/09/23
Deal trophies for the junior runner ups https://www.inst...
Beady-eyed Mental Disorder
  09/10/23
rofl this is a joke https://photo-assets.usopen.org/image...
stimulating poppy sweet tailpipe stain
  09/10/23
>Sara Saito and Nanaka Sato are they sisters?
stimulating poppy sweet tailpipe stain
  09/10/23
Seems to be an extra vowel in there Anyway maybe they ne...
Beady-eyed Mental Disorder
  09/10/23
rofl this "cripple" is a fraud. there's litera...
stimulating poppy sweet tailpipe stain
  09/10/23
I dunno what’s better for wheelchair tennis - one jack...
Beady-eyed Mental Disorder
  09/10/23
on the left looks like genie bouchard when she blew up durin...
stimulating poppy sweet tailpipe stain
  09/10/23
cops his 3rd consecutive USO WC: https://twitter.com/Tenn...
stimulating poppy sweet tailpipe stain
  08/13/24
now in nextgen finals
stimulating poppy sweet tailpipe stain
  12/21/24
Runner up More interestingly cooper Williams has taken hi...
Beady-eyed Mental Disorder
  12/26/24
the D bomb is definitely powerful
stimulating poppy sweet tailpipe stain
  12/26/24
Just beat Deputy Chairman Medvedev! Will be top 100 after...
Beady-eyed Mental Disorder
  01/16/25
holy shit, 7-6 in the 5th after being up 2 sets lol @ the...
stimulating poppy sweet tailpipe stain
  01/16/25
He backs up the big upset with a solid win. Good chance at t...
stimulating poppy sweet tailpipe stain
  01/18/25
watch @ 2:25: https://x.com/i/status/1882234570357059774 ...
stimulating poppy sweet tailpipe stain
  01/22/25
now playing djoker on ashe
stimulating poppy sweet tailpipe stain
  08/24/25
Barely legal teen Learner wins Moselle 250 over Cam’ro...
Beady-eyed Mental Disorder
  11/08/25
They didnt give a week off this year so they held the openin...
Beady-eyed Mental Disorder
  11/08/25
This is Djoker 101 titles Fully support him playing only ...
Beady-eyed Mental Disorder
  11/08/25
He’s not gonna win 8 more to even tie jimbo. Very sad....
stimulating poppy sweet tailpipe stain
  11/08/25
Real retarded the race doesn’t end with Paris. This is...
stimulating poppy sweet tailpipe stain
  11/08/25


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Date: August 17th, 2022 10:28 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Mental Disorder

Plays Learned Handed like Dr Nadal!

https://www.itftennis.com/en/players/learner-tien/800587066/usa/jt/s/overview/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175423&forum_id=2...#45030700)



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Date: August 17th, 2022 11:22 PM
Author: vigorous garrison

Anyone on XO who doesn't boycott the US Open this year (which includes poasting about it) due to their fascist treatment of Djokoivic will be ostracized and subject to IRL consequences up to and including murder.

hth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175423&forum_id=2...#45031057)



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Date: August 17th, 2022 11:24 PM
Author: ungodly school

This is such bullshit I hate libs Joker is the best ever they took his titles

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175423&forum_id=2...#45031067)



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Date: August 20th, 2022 8:59 PM
Author: stimulating poppy sweet tailpipe stain

cr. this and the AO are frauds

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175423&forum_id=2...#45045498)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 9:41 AM
Author: Beady-eyed Mental Disorder

Learner in the AO Bois SFs after taking out Bulgarian 2 seed 6-0 6-0. Can you bet on Junior matches lol

He’s also in the bois doubles finals

His partner Cooper Williams goes to “Dwight Global” which I guess is a crossover between IMG Academy and Harvard Extension?

https://newyorktennismagazine.com/junior-player-spotlight-cooper-williams-and-evan-wen-dwight-global-online-school

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175423&forum_id=2...#45843955)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 9:45 AM
Author: stimulating poppy sweet tailpipe stain

looks like he's going to USC

https://usctrojans.com/news/2022/12/19/usc-mens-tennis-welcomes-learner-tien-to-troy.aspx

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175423&forum_id=2...#45843964)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 9:51 AM
Author: Beady-eyed Mental Disorder

Why you no go to Harvard

https://www.tennisrecruiting.net/player.asp?id=821237

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175423&forum_id=2...#45843988)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 9:54 AM
Author: stimulating poppy sweet tailpipe stain

holy shit rofl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175423&forum_id=2...#45843999)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 10:40 AM
Author: Beady-eyed Mental Disorder

zootennis is a big Tien fan!

https://twitter.com/zootennis/status/1618406871148142594?s=21

I love Twitter comments - Mitchell Lee - Harvard ‘28 says Tien is going pro in January 2024 😂

https://twitter.com/mitchell_lee_11/status/1618439420025405442?s=21

https://www.tennisrecruiting.net/player.asp?id=861971

Oh wait I guess I missed hes a January enrollee. Guess that means June 2023

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175423&forum_id=2...#45844204)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 8:09 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Mental Disorder

Learner is currently live on ESPN+

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175423&forum_id=2...#45846977)



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Date: January 26th, 2023 8:50 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Mental Disorder

Learner up a set and a break

Meanwhile zootennis poasting photos of 10 year old Tommy Paul

https://twitter.com/zootennis/status/1618726428010242050?s=21

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175423&forum_id=2...#45847140)



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Date: January 27th, 2023 9:20 AM
Author: Beady-eyed Mental Disorder

Learner in singles final and the left handed banana winner for the dubs title!

https://twitter.com/zootennis/status/1618850541311778816?s=21

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175423&forum_id=2...#45848511)



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Date: January 27th, 2023 10:08 AM
Author: stimulating poppy sweet tailpipe stain

180, but wtf jr has no-ad.. or just doubles?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175423&forum_id=2...#45848668)



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Date: January 27th, 2023 10:13 AM
Author: Beady-eyed Mental Disorder

Must be doubles. I watched the singles match and they had deuces

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175423&forum_id=2...#45848694)



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Date: January 27th, 2023 10:19 AM
Author: stimulating poppy sweet tailpipe stain

very halfordian watching the bois

any notable tien girls?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175423&forum_id=2...#45848722)



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Date: January 27th, 2023 10:23 AM
Author: Beady-eyed Mental Disorder

The Junior girls finals is between Mirra Andreeva and Alina Korneeva both of BANISTAN

Aussie Ricky in Men’s Doobs final

https://ausopen.com/players/australia/rinky-hijikata

Sania Mirza lost mixed dubs final with Rohan Bopanna last night - apparently her last match

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175423&forum_id=2...#45848741)



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Date: January 27th, 2023 10:27 AM
Author: stimulating poppy sweet tailpipe stain

GORGEOUS finale

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175423&forum_id=2...#45848768)



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Date: January 27th, 2023 9:30 AM
Author: mint lodge cuck

More nominative determinism wow

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175423&forum_id=2...#45848531)



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Date: January 27th, 2023 10:42 AM
Author: Obsidian depressive

This NOWAG is getting precious XO board time because his name is "Learner"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175423&forum_id=2...#45848829)



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Date: January 27th, 2023 11:29 AM
Author: Beady-eyed Mental Disorder

I poast about #nextgen teens teens all the time.

Here’s my liveblog of the rise of former teen Bianca Andreescu

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4185612&mc=32&forum_id=2

Sadly the Newport challenger seems to be defunct



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175423&forum_id=2...#45849126)



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Date: August 13th, 2023 8:18 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Mental Disorder

#back2back

https://twitter.com/zootennis/status/1690822353251340288

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175423&forum_id=2...#46665216)



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Date: September 9th, 2023 5:37 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Mental Disorder

Got blown out by Big Foe but now in Boys final.

Girls finalist Katherine Hui wants everyone to know she had a boyfriend

https://www.usopen.org/en_US/players/overview/wta330053.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175423&forum_id=2...#46776368)



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Date: September 9th, 2023 9:18 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Mental Disorder

Learner loses but Katherine wins! USA womyn double up today

https://twitter.com/itftennis/status/1700658648974815559

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175423&forum_id=2...#46777084)



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Date: September 9th, 2023 9:36 PM
Author: crawly cheese-eating headpube

We’re neighbors

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175423&forum_id=2...#46777143)



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Date: September 9th, 2023 10:09 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Mental Disorder

U should ask for his stylist, his hair looks very feathery

https://d3jycsk0m72ya7.cloudfront.net/images/2023/5/10/JM22_3964-2.jpg?width=146



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175423&forum_id=2...#46777249)



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Date: September 9th, 2023 10:07 PM
Author: stimulating poppy sweet tailpipe stain

katherin hui cheering on learner's double faults, wearing a brazil jersey .... why?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175423&forum_id=2...#46777237)



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Date: September 9th, 2023 10:08 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Mental Disorder

Joao handsome

https://www.itftennis.com/en/players/joao-fonseca/800576674/bra/jt/S/overview/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175423&forum_id=2...#46777243)



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Date: September 9th, 2023 10:15 PM
Author: stimulating poppy sweet tailpipe stain

lol

katherine wearing her stanford sweatshirt taunting learner yelling "safety school"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175423&forum_id=2...#46777262)



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Date: September 9th, 2023 10:20 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Mental Disorder

Lol at this trophy for ANTS

https://twitter.com/christophclarey/status/1700673527131898015?

Wimbledon you can at least hold normally

https://twitter.com/flywithkamala/status/1680620279389626369

RG gives you a giant plate

https://twitter.com/theflower008/status/1667544681779953664

AO gives out a mini Stanley cup

https://twitter.com/maelmale/status/1619249832664903680

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175423&forum_id=2...#46777279)



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Date: September 9th, 2023 10:25 PM
Author: stimulating poppy sweet tailpipe stain

sup ironside?

i noticed that too. did they change the trophy:

https://photoresources.wtatennis.com/photo-resources/2022/09/10/88125758-391a-47a6-aa87-6621aab4fa52/Eala-jr-final-Garrett-Ellwood-USTA.jpg?width=1440

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175423&forum_id=2...#46777291)



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Date: September 9th, 2023 10:39 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Mental Disorder

Yeah, I’m seeing glass trophies a few years back. Coco and Caty got them too for winning dubs in 2018

https://www.usta.com/en/home/pro/pro-media---news/coco-gauff--caty-mcnally-win-us-open-junior-doubles-titles.html

Clicking through insta story can confirm dubs also got tiny trophies

https://instagram.com/_maragae_

Even Joao got one!

https://twitter.com/surtoolimpico/status/1700680963410502071

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175423&forum_id=2...#46777352)



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Date: September 9th, 2023 10:45 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Mental Disorder

Tommy Paul with the glass plate in 2015

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1734/0999/files/4041c3786474ec8eb1c54c528770de7b_grande.jpg?v=1521459431

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175423&forum_id=2...#46777386)



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Date: September 9th, 2023 10:47 PM
Author: stimulating poppy sweet tailpipe stain



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175423&forum_id=2...#46777392)



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Date: September 10th, 2023 9:51 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Mental Disorder

Deal trophies for the junior runner ups

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cw_6RA2tUDw/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175423&forum_id=2...#46781277)



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Date: September 10th, 2023 9:54 PM
Author: stimulating poppy sweet tailpipe stain

rofl this is a joke

https://photo-assets.usopen.org/images/pics/large/f_20230909_USO_D13_DN2_0973.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175423&forum_id=2...#46781290)



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Date: September 10th, 2023 9:55 PM
Author: stimulating poppy sweet tailpipe stain

>Sara Saito and Nanaka Sato

are they sisters?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175423&forum_id=2...#46781292)



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Date: September 10th, 2023 10:12 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Mental Disorder

Seems to be an extra vowel in there

Anyway maybe they needed to save money after adding the wheelchair junior divisions last year or wanted to make the trophy more ada accessible

https://photo-assets.usopen.org/images/pics/large/b_20230909_USO_D13_RFN_1780.jpg

But it looks like boys wheelchair runner up got a silver cup? Very weird

https://photo-assets.usopen.org/images/pics/large/f_20230909_USO_D13_RFN_0348.jpg

Also is this a power move in wheelchair tennis - walking out onto the court?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3iq9Bsjzn1o

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175423&forum_id=2...#46781346)



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Date: September 10th, 2023 10:16 PM
Author: stimulating poppy sweet tailpipe stain

rofl this "cripple" is a fraud.

there's literally 10 ppl in the stands. very sad. they should let ppl in for free and fill up the stadium

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175423&forum_id=2...#46781356)



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Date: September 10th, 2023 10:45 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Mental Disorder

I dunno what’s better for wheelchair tennis - one jacked leg or two useless ones?

https://www.instagram.com/p/CkEEemusu4T/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CgGyeXPMt61/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175423&forum_id=2...#46781506)



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Date: September 10th, 2023 10:47 PM
Author: stimulating poppy sweet tailpipe stain

on the left looks like genie bouchard when she blew up during her retirement

anything in the rules prevent the guy w one jacked leg from getting out of the wheelchair and running after a ball? there should be a one jacked leg division and they allow this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175423&forum_id=2...#46781510)



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Date: August 13th, 2024 8:12 AM
Author: stimulating poppy sweet tailpipe stain

cops his 3rd consecutive USO WC:

https://twitter.com/Tennis_Now/status/1823124459043299783

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175423&forum_id=2...#47960243)



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Date: December 21st, 2024 8:01 PM
Author: stimulating poppy sweet tailpipe stain

now in nextgen finals

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175423&forum_id=2...#48473858)



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Date: December 26th, 2024 6:08 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Mental Disorder

Runner up

More interestingly cooper Williams has taken his talents to Duke

https://goduke.com/news/2024/6/6/mens-tennis-no-1-freshman-in-the-nation-cooper-williams-joins-duke-tennis

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175423&forum_id=2...#48489469)



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Date: December 26th, 2024 9:40 PM
Author: stimulating poppy sweet tailpipe stain

the D bomb is definitely powerful

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175423&forum_id=2...#48490002)



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Date: January 16th, 2025 12:44 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Mental Disorder

Just beat Deputy Chairman Medvedev!

Will be top 100 after AO

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175423&forum_id=2...#48557822)



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Date: January 16th, 2025 12:49 PM
Author: stimulating poppy sweet tailpipe stain

holy shit, 7-6 in the 5th after being up 2 sets

lol @ the NYT negging him for being short:

He hardly fits the profile of the new generation of potential men’s tennis stars who have captured this year’s Australian Open, like Joao Fonseca and Jakub Mensik. They are mostly tall and arrive with big serves and frozen-rope groundstrokes. Tien is a hair under six feet, slight with a cherubic face. But he has a steady, unwavering demeanor, deceptive power that he generates with terrific footwork and enough courage to take big cuts at the ball when he needs to.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6066464/2025/01/16/learner-tien-australian-open-daniil-medvedev-result-analysis/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175423&forum_id=2...#48557838)



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Date: January 18th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: stimulating poppy sweet tailpipe stain

He backs up the big upset with a solid win. Good chance at the QF

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175423&forum_id=2...#48564388)



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Date: January 22nd, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: stimulating poppy sweet tailpipe stain

watch @ 2:25: https://x.com/i/status/1882234570357059774

this azn is totally autistic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175423&forum_id=2...#48579936)



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Date: August 24th, 2025 7:01 PM
Author: stimulating poppy sweet tailpipe stain

now playing djoker on ashe

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175423&forum_id=2...#49209716)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 5:39 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Mental Disorder

Barely legal teen Learner wins Moselle 250 over Cam’ron Norrie!

In other news Musetti needed to defeat Djoker in Athens to make the #race to Turin, but lost

But then Djoker told him he wasn’t going to play so he’s in lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175423&forum_id=2...#49413042)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 5:40 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Mental Disorder

They didnt give a week off this year so they held the opening ceremonies with six people

https://x.com/benrothenberg/status/1986879455118197075

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175423&forum_id=2...#49413046)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 5:42 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Mental Disorder

This is Djoker 101 titles

Fully support him playing only 250s/slams next two years to get to 110

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175423&forum_id=2...#49413051)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 9:11 PM
Author: stimulating poppy sweet tailpipe stain

He’s not gonna win 8 more to even tie jimbo. Very sad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175423&forum_id=2...#49413415)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 9:10 PM
Author: stimulating poppy sweet tailpipe stain

Real retarded the race doesn’t end with Paris. This is changing in 2026. The week between points will count for the next year’s race.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5175423&forum_id=2...#49413412)