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Aromatic Lodge
  07/18/25
God willing
House-broken garnet abode
  07/18/25
Inshallah
Aromatic Lodge
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bipolar red jap
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Aromatic Lodge
  07/18/25
nickel endimed
Chestnut set fat ankles
  07/18/25
What happens next though? Clearly we still have lawyers ...
Coral violent alpha business firm
  07/18/25
Interesting point. Here in shitlaw, I have people calling m...
Insanely Creepy Theatre
  07/18/25
What is the bulk of your business
Aqua abusive address sweet tailpipe
  07/18/25
The single biggest area is rural real estate law. Evictions...
Insanely Creepy Theatre
  07/18/25
lol 180
blathering pocket flask haunted graveyard
  07/18/25
180
Aqua abusive address sweet tailpipe
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Irradiated jet fanboi
  07/19/25
prole squabbles, llp
Flushed cerebral hunting ground
  07/18/25
UBI is a must and these gains in income (from LLM technologi...
fighting ultramarine office
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Aromatic Lodge
  07/18/25
how about we just have billionaires who "lord" ove...
Vermilion 180 jew
  07/18/25
Don't count on a 10 year horizon. Get your retirement money ...
charismatic people who are hurt temple
  07/18/25
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Aromatic Lodge
  07/18/25
I’ve used Lexis and westlaw’s AI. Still not impr...
Chrome Sex Offender Kitchen
  07/18/25
I'm not sure what sort of tools biglaw is using, but AI capa...
light crusty associate reading party
  07/18/25
It’s pretty crap right now and often in law there&rsqu...
glittery field
  07/18/25
Yeah I think this is horseshit cope tbh. Models like o3 pro ...
light crusty associate reading party
  07/18/25
It pushes out shit legal work product riddled with hallucina...
glittery field
  07/18/25
Also, the law isn’t just pure logic or even complex lo...
glittery field
  07/18/25
Coping fag hello
glittery field
  07/18/25
You're just wrong about AI capabilities and AI's ability to ...
light crusty associate reading party
  07/18/25
Not only that but it basically only has to be good enough to...
bateful skinny woman
  07/18/25
Why don’t you explain why I’m wrong instead of s...
glittery field
  07/19/25
Just respond to chatgpt and ask it for the pro-legal AI argu...
Dun swashbuckling hominid
  07/19/25
Current reality supports the anti-AI argument. AI law produ...
glittery field
  07/19/25
OP also thought Excel would eliminate accountants
Pearly Pit Goyim
  07/18/25
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angry wonderful house brethren
  07/19/25
I wish.
Sienna juggernaut kitty
  07/18/25
Its barely any better than a google search was 6 years ago. ...
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  07/18/25


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Date: July 18th, 2025 4:16 AM
Author: Aromatic Lodge



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Date: July 18th, 2025 4:23 AM
Author: House-broken garnet abode

God willing

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Date: July 18th, 2025 4:53 AM
Author: Aromatic Lodge

Inshallah

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Date: July 18th, 2025 5:46 PM
Author: bipolar red jap



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:49 PM
Author: Aromatic Lodge



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Date: July 18th, 2025 4:53 AM
Author: Chestnut set fat ankles

nickel endimed

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Date: July 18th, 2025 6:33 AM
Author: Coral violent alpha business firm

What happens next though?

Clearly we still have lawyers and law firms, but perhaps the firm headcount drops to 10% the current headcount, and AI/software picks up the slack.

In that world, is the firm owned by just a handful of partners? Do law firms start to act like lean software companies? When does a U.S. firm IPO?

The counterpoint btw is that we just do a lot more work that was prohibitively expensive before. For example, I probably see 25+ cease and desist letters for every lawsuit, because letters cost $5-10k and lawsuits cost $100k to initiate and $5M+ to litigate through summary judgment. If cost of litigation drops [80%] people may file many more lawsuits. There could be an analogous dynamic on the corporate/business side.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2...id#49111194)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:00 AM
Author: Insanely Creepy Theatre

Interesting point. Here in shitlaw, I have people calling me virtually every day because their "friend" cheated them out of $300 or something. I tell them it doesn't make financial sense to pursue that and they start crying. There's a big untapped market out there for adjudicating squabbles among proles.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2...id#49111342)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:28 AM
Author: Aqua abusive address sweet tailpipe

What is the bulk of your business

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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:43 AM
Author: Insanely Creepy Theatre

The single biggest area is rural real estate law. Evictions, construction disputes, zoning issues. Tons of lawsuits over exactly who owns some piece of land, often with a rotting mobile home sitting on it. Average client expenditure is about $3000, but that varies wildly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2...id#49111405)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:54 AM
Author: blathering pocket flask haunted graveyard

lol 180

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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: Aqua abusive address sweet tailpipe

180

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Date: July 19th, 2025 7:10 AM
Author: Irradiated jet fanboi



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: Flushed cerebral hunting ground

prole squabbles, llp

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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:46 AM
Author: fighting ultramarine office

UBI is a must and these gains in income (from LLM technologies)for the technologists or corporations replacing people with chatbots needs to be scrutinized and tracked ASAP to start determining the amount owed to the american citizenry

it's critical

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2...id#49111414)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: Aromatic Lodge



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:56 PM
Author: Vermilion 180 jew

how about we just have billionaires who "lord" over us and poors who you could say serve or maybe "serf" them and then anyone who doesn't go along with this gets to die

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2...id#49113524)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:47 AM
Author: charismatic people who are hurt temple

Don't count on a 10 year horizon. Get your retirement money as soon as you fucking can

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2...id#49111417)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: Aromatic Lodge



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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:50 AM
Author: Chrome Sex Offender Kitchen

I’ve used Lexis and westlaw’s AI. Still not impressed. It helps, it certainly makes us more productive, but major reductions in headcount? Also, everyone keeps saying wait another year. But we’re a couple of years in and the capabilities (at least as applied to law) seem about the same.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2...id#49111420)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:57 AM
Author: light crusty associate reading party

I'm not sure what sort of tools biglaw is using, but AI capabilities have skyrocketed over the past two years and there's no reason that wouldn't apply to law if it applies subjects that are at least as complex.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2...id#49111435)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:33 AM
Author: glittery field

It’s pretty crap right now and often in law there’s no objectively correct answer unlike coding or whatever. Here’s a better explanation why law is harder to master for AI than coding.

Coding is governed by strict syntax and deterministic rules. A given input in a programming language will always produce the same output if the code is correct.

• Legal analysis involves ambiguous language, conflicting authorities, policy tradeoffs, and context-sensitive reasoning—skills that require human judgment and real-world understanding.

AI has been trained on massive open-source code repositories like GitHub, with clear labels, documentation, and results. This data is abundant, consistent, and high-quality.

• Legal data is more fragmented:

• Case law is often behind paywalls.

• Court decisions may be long, inconsistent, or involve complex procedural postures.

• Outcomes are not always “correct” or universally agreed upon.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2...id#49111495)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:34 AM
Author: light crusty associate reading party

Yeah I think this is horseshit cope tbh. Models like o3 pro can absolutely handle textual nuance and complex questions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2...id#49111500)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:44 AM
Author: glittery field

It pushes out shit legal work product riddled with hallucinations or misstatements of the law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2...id#49111526)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 11:24 AM
Author: glittery field

Also, the law isn’t just pure logic or even complex logic, unlike coding, there’s no single correct answer to the important questions that get litigated, the legal background is often contradictory and nuanced so you can’t just train it easily.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2...id#49111634)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 12:04 PM
Author: glittery field

Coping fag hello

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2...id#49111710)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 12:10 PM
Author: light crusty associate reading party

You're just wrong about AI capabilities and AI's ability to generate responses when there isn't an objectively correct answer, there isn't much else to say. If anything law being subjective bullshit will make it easier to automate. When I deal with ai skeptics these days I mostly just wait for reality to prove them wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2...id#49111715)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 5:46 PM
Author: bateful skinny woman

Not only that but it basically only has to be good enough to replace paralegals and juniors to have an enormous impact, which it pretty much already has

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2...id#49112807)



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Date: July 19th, 2025 7:23 AM
Author: glittery field

Why don’t you explain why I’m wrong instead of saying “I’m just wrong” with no explanation?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2...id#49113912)



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Date: July 19th, 2025 7:26 AM
Author: Dun swashbuckling hominid

Just respond to chatgpt and ask it for the pro-legal AI argument to the answer it just gave you

(delete the em dash next time you retard)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2...id#49113914)



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Date: July 19th, 2025 2:45 PM
Author: glittery field

Current reality supports the anti-AI argument. AI law products are pretty shit for any complex practice.

No doubt that people who rely on making money through teams of 20 paralegals filling out forms and doing rote tasks will change a lot but automating such repetitive thoughtless tasks is entirely different than writing a compelling brief based on nuanced and complex facts in an uncertain area of law.

It most likely will be similar to how word processing eliminated a lot of support positions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2...id#49114500)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 9:58 AM
Author: Pearly Pit Goyim

OP also thought Excel would eliminate accountants

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2...id#49111438)



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Date: July 19th, 2025 1:33 AM
Author: angry wonderful house brethren



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Date: July 18th, 2025 10:23 AM
Author: Sienna juggernaut kitty

I wish.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2...id#49111468)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 12:24 PM
Author: rambunctious orange antidepressant drug stag film

Its barely any better than a google search was 6 years ago. Add on top that people using it are dumber. All AI is going to do is maybe help the few smart people left do stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5751717&forum_id=2...id#49111741)