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rating poasters as bizarre classical music from the 20th/21st centuries

mostly solo piano.
Adulterous idiotic orchestra pit
  01/17/26
requesting Chopin pls
fiercely-loyal misanthropic gay wizard
  01/17/26
Chopin is from the 19th century, so we'll have to resort to ...
Adulterous idiotic orchestra pit
  01/17/26
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Boyish chad prole
  01/17/26
The second nocturne from Sciarrino's Due Notturni Crudeli --...
Adulterous idiotic orchestra pit
  01/17/26
wild, ty!
Boyish chad prole
  01/17/26
There's usually no middle ground with this type of music: yo...
Adulterous idiotic orchestra pit
  01/17/26
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Filthy lilac rehab
  01/17/26
that kind of music generally sucks, but content
ebony friendly grandma
  01/17/26
Have to go with Ferneyhough then. He's obviously a cynical f...
Adulterous idiotic orchestra pit
  01/17/26
180, the piece qua music isn't even that horrible, but the u...
ebony friendly grandma
  01/17/26
The problem here is that this incomprehensibly complex style...
Adulterous idiotic orchestra pit
  01/17/26
but content tp
Aggressive dashing turdskin
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Aphrodisiac famous landscape painting
  01/17/26
Sorabji's 19th etude. Oddly upbeat and unserious considering...
Adulterous idiotic orchestra pit
  01/17/26
Jcm here
Big hospital partner
  01/17/26
Julius Eastman's "Crazy Nigger": https://www.youtu...
Adulterous idiotic orchestra pit
  01/17/26
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Filthy lilac rehab
  01/17/26
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Salmon Nofapping Property International Law Enforcement Agency
  01/17/26
Hikari Kiyama's "Three Shells" for two hands and o...
Adulterous idiotic orchestra pit
  01/17/26
this is completely preposterous
Filthy lilac rehab
  01/17/26
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Salmon Nofapping Property International Law Enforcement Agency
  01/17/26
I'm Facebook friends with the pianist Ljl
Adulterous idiotic orchestra pit
  01/17/26
lmao
Filthy lilac rehab
  01/17/26
And the composer too. Almost forgot.
Adulterous idiotic orchestra pit
  01/17/26
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Filthy lilac rehab
  01/17/26
This isn't even Kiyama's most preposterous piece. Check out ...
Adulterous idiotic orchestra pit
  01/18/26
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contagious lodge
  01/17/26
Michael Finnissy's Piano Concerto no. 4 for solo piano: http...
Adulterous idiotic orchestra pit
  01/17/26
Nice, still discernible dramatic arc though dissonant
contagious lodge
  01/17/26
Yes, I view this piece as being pushed to the absolute limit...
Adulterous idiotic orchestra pit
  01/17/26
I have attended one of the note changes in the Halberstadt p...
Filthy lilac rehab
  01/17/26
I rate you as insufferable minimalism by John Adams. Here's ...
Adulterous idiotic orchestra pit
  01/17/26
180 thank you you used the phrase "obviously a cynical...
Filthy lilac rehab
  01/17/26
No doubt John Cage spewed out a lot of pure trash, but some ...
Adulterous idiotic orchestra pit
  01/17/26
can you please link me to Cage's pieces for prepared piano y...
Filthy lilac rehab
  01/17/26
Haven't listened to them in over a decade at this point, so ...
Adulterous idiotic orchestra pit
  01/17/26
link in here please if any come to mind later on, I've never...
Filthy lilac rehab
  01/17/26
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAImmOqNzzs
Adulterous idiotic orchestra pit
  01/17/26
ty
Filthy lilac rehab
  01/17/26
Herbert Henck is a great pianist. I believe his recordings o...
Adulterous idiotic orchestra pit
  01/17/26
Damn just looked him up, and he died recently. RIP bro.
Adulterous idiotic orchestra pit
  01/17/26
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stimulating temple
  01/17/26
"Evryali" by Iannis Xenakis, specifically Takahash...
Adulterous idiotic orchestra pit
  01/17/26
...
odious indian lodge
  01/17/26
is this a compliment? are we friends?
stimulating temple
  01/17/26
This is my favorite piece by Xenakis.
Adulterous idiotic orchestra pit
  01/17/26
I love you so much
stimulating temple
  01/17/26
...
odious indian lodge
  01/17/26
Clarence Barlow's variations on the last movement from Beeth...
Adulterous idiotic orchestra pit
  01/17/26
...
motley vermilion tanning salon wagecucks
  01/17/26
I hate to mention the same composer twice, but I can't think...
Adulterous idiotic orchestra pit
  01/18/26
do you know this? Fazil Say - Black Earth interesting te...
Boyish chad prole
  01/17/26
I know the pianist/composer, but I haven't heard this partic...
Adulterous idiotic orchestra pit
  01/17/26
understood. and yes i understand this reaching inside is fr...
Boyish chad prole
  01/17/26
Reaching inside was Cowell's innovation. And Cowell was one ...
Adulterous idiotic orchestra pit
  01/18/26
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Boyish chad prole
  01/18/26


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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:20 AM
Author: Adulterous idiotic orchestra pit

mostly solo piano.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596192)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:23 AM
Author: fiercely-loyal misanthropic gay wizard

requesting Chopin pls

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596197)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:27 AM
Author: Adulterous idiotic orchestra pit

Chopin is from the 19th century, so we'll have to resort to an early 20th-century reintepretation of Chopin's etudes by Godowsky. Not particularly bizarre, just difficult to perform. Apologies in advance for any disappointment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuEa1XLEVSw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596202)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:24 AM
Author: Boyish chad prole



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596198)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:29 AM
Author: Adulterous idiotic orchestra pit

The second nocturne from Sciarrino's Due Notturni Crudeli -- to be performed with rage per the composer's instructions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_dn3ORLq6s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596206)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:05 PM
Author: Boyish chad prole

wild, ty!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596339)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:37 PM
Author: Adulterous idiotic orchestra pit

There's usually no middle ground with this type of music: you either love it or violently hate it and think it's just noise.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596419)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:03 PM
Author: Filthy lilac rehab



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596874)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:26 PM
Author: ebony friendly grandma

that kind of music generally sucks, but content

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596394)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:30 PM
Author: Adulterous idiotic orchestra pit

Have to go with Ferneyhough then. He's obviously a cynical fraud and charlatan, but that's true of most composers with a similar style. Personally I can't stand any of his music. Enjoy! Just look at how pretentious the piece's title is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYMXbM0RCeU



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596404)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 5:45 PM
Author: ebony friendly grandma

180, the piece qua music isn't even that horrible, but the unreadble notation and beyond pretentious title push it over the top

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49597223)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 8:57 PM
Author: Adulterous idiotic orchestra pit

The problem here is that this incomprehensibly complex style is taken to the point where I could create the same semi-random but pointlessly complex music despite me having no talent as a composer. That's why you can't take Ferneyhough or similar composers seriously. But they do want you to take them seriously. After all, Ferneyhough made it all the way to Stanford with this gibberish "music."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49597685)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:58 PM
Author: Aggressive dashing turdskin

but content tp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49597001)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:41 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac famous landscape painting



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596425)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:47 PM
Author: Adulterous idiotic orchestra pit

Sorabji's 19th etude. Oddly upbeat and unserious considering Sorabji's typically serious style: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFZYqLqBHOc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596437)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 1:17 PM
Author: Big hospital partner

Jcm here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596525)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 1:18 PM
Author: Adulterous idiotic orchestra pit

Julius Eastman's "Crazy Nigger": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aR0naIp9eM

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596530)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:10 PM
Author: Filthy lilac rehab



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596884)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 1:20 PM
Author: Salmon Nofapping Property International Law Enforcement Agency



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596538)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 2:55 PM
Author: Adulterous idiotic orchestra pit

Hikari Kiyama's "Three Shells" for two hands and one foot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyy3CRuMQnc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596865)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:22 PM
Author: Filthy lilac rehab

this is completely preposterous

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596919)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:41 PM
Author: Salmon Nofapping Property International Law Enforcement Agency



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596958)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:47 PM
Author: Adulterous idiotic orchestra pit

I'm Facebook friends with the pianist Ljl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596979)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:49 PM
Author: Filthy lilac rehab

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596985)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:58 PM
Author: Adulterous idiotic orchestra pit

And the composer too. Almost forgot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596999)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 4:48 PM
Author: Filthy lilac rehab



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49597089)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 9:19 AM
Author: Adulterous idiotic orchestra pit

This isn't even Kiyama's most preposterous piece. Check out his "Innocent Prisoner" for piano and voice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LIw8ykSmGU

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49598324)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 2:56 PM
Author: contagious lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596869)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 2:59 PM
Author: Adulterous idiotic orchestra pit

Michael Finnissy's Piano Concerto no. 4 for solo piano: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKfFaSWr4m0

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596870)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:38 PM
Author: contagious lodge

Nice, still discernible dramatic arc though dissonant

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596948)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:50 PM
Author: Adulterous idiotic orchestra pit

Yes, I view this piece as being pushed to the absolute limit of dissonance and complexity without devolving into randomness. Actually it goes too far, but there's much worse out there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596986)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:05 PM
Author: Filthy lilac rehab

I have attended one of the note changes in the Halberstadt performance of John Cage's As Slow As Possible. Rate me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/As_Slow_as_Possible

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596877)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:10 PM
Author: Adulterous idiotic orchestra pit

I rate you as insufferable minimalism by John Adams. Here's his "Phrygian Gates": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DixKnE9HqIU

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596883)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:12 PM
Author: Filthy lilac rehab

180 thank you

you used the phrase "obviously a cynical fraud and charlatan" above and that is how I view Cage but others may disagree

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596891)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:16 PM
Author: Adulterous idiotic orchestra pit

No doubt John Cage spewed out a lot of pure trash, but some of his music is actually enjoyable. For instance, his pieces for prepared piano.

Ferneyhough, the fraud and charlatan, is just SPS with no redeeming qualities. It's just unnecessary complexity and near-randomness that ordinary people laugh at (and should).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596904)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:20 PM
Author: Filthy lilac rehab

can you please link me to Cage's pieces for prepared piano you enjoyed?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596915)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:34 PM
Author: Adulterous idiotic orchestra pit

Haven't listened to them in over a decade at this point, so I don't remember specific pieces. The interesting ones had minimalist aspects IIRC. The problem with the recordings is the piano preparation and resultant sound varies wildly with each recording. So some recordings sound dull while others are more lively.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596940)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:36 PM
Author: Filthy lilac rehab

link in here please if any come to mind later on, I've never been able to enjoy anything by Cage but I'm open to reassessing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596945)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:40 PM
Author: Adulterous idiotic orchestra pit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAImmOqNzzs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596952)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:49 PM
Author: Filthy lilac rehab

ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596984)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:52 PM
Author: Adulterous idiotic orchestra pit

Herbert Henck is a great pianist. I believe his recordings of Cage's works were my favorite.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596991)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:53 PM
Author: Adulterous idiotic orchestra pit

Damn just looked him up, and he died recently. RIP bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596993)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:38 PM
Author: stimulating temple



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596950)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:48 PM
Author: Adulterous idiotic orchestra pit

"Evryali" by Iannis Xenakis, specifically Takahashi's recording: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbUgAXt75s8

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596980)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 4:52 PM
Author: odious indian lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49597105)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 6:25 PM
Author: stimulating temple

is this a compliment? are we friends?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49597348)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 6:49 PM
Author: Adulterous idiotic orchestra pit

This is my favorite piece by Xenakis.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49597403)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 7:24 PM
Author: stimulating temple

I love you so much

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49597475)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 4:52 PM
Author: odious indian lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49597104)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 5:02 PM
Author: Adulterous idiotic orchestra pit

Clarence Barlow's variations on the last movement from Beethoven's last piano sonata, for mechanical piano: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gyJkYWdWWo (gets interesting after about 8-10 minutes)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49597137)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 7:00 PM
Author: motley vermilion tanning salon wagecucks



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49597425)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 8:56 AM
Author: Adulterous idiotic orchestra pit

I hate to mention the same composer twice, but I can't think of anything more appropriate than Michael Finnissy's Piano Concerto no. 6 for solo piano: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_Y1bZYi60M

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49598298)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 8:10 PM
Author: Boyish chad prole

do you know this? Fazil Say - Black Earth

interesting technique

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYtybgToH2Q&t=28s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49597568)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 8:43 PM
Author: Adulterous idiotic orchestra pit

I know the pianist/composer, but I haven't heard this particular piece. Classical music snobs would probably thumb their noses at this piece, but the snobs can be ignored. All that matters is whether you like it.

The technique of modifying the sound of the piano by interacting with the strings themselves is not new. Henry Cowell first explored this around 100 or so years ago. John Cage took the idea further in his pieces for prepared piano, which I mentioned earlier.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49597648)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 9:45 PM
Author: Boyish chad prole

understood. and yes i understand this reaching inside is from cage - i like this a lot more than him though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49597813)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 8:54 AM
Author: Adulterous idiotic orchestra pit

Reaching inside was Cowell's innovation. And Cowell was one of Cage's teachers, if I remember correctly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49598296)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 10:26 AM
Author: Boyish chad prole



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49598425)