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Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
Medicated internet-worthy turdskin principal's office
  06/14/13
just walk outside bro
Onyx Bossy Orchestra Pit Chad
  05/29/25
(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
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Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the la...
scarlet partner
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Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitar...
house-broken white philosopher-king degenerate
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(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded ...
scarlet partner
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They were better because you had different tribal clans owni...
house-broken white philosopher-king degenerate
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read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of ...
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Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the P...
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what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
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cq
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I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on ju...
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teen black death survivors were the original Boomers
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i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf ...
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Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as ba...
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really depended on the country, the region, and the lord re...
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: Medicated internet-worthy turdskin principal's office

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#23393887)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: Onyx Bossy Orchestra Pit Chad

just walk outside bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#48969812)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: Onyx Bossy Orchestra Pit Chad

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#48969813)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Onyx Bossy Orchestra Pit Chad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#48985020)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
Author: Onyx Bossy Orchestra Pit Chad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#48997575)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: Onyx Bossy Orchestra Pit Chad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#49064860)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM
Author: Onyx Bossy Orchestra Pit Chad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#49070377)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM
Author: Onyx Bossy Orchestra Pit Chad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#49077411)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: Onyx Bossy Orchestra Pit Chad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#49084518)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: Onyx Bossy Orchestra Pit Chad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#49098591)



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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: Onyx Bossy Orchestra Pit Chad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#49101058)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM
Author: Onyx Bossy Orchestra Pit Chad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#49105012)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM
Author: Onyx Bossy Orchestra Pit Chad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#49117359)



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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM
Author: Onyx Bossy Orchestra Pit Chad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#49128622)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 11:50 PM
Author: Onyx Bossy Orchestra Pit Chad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#49141968)



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Date: July 30th, 2025 6:59 PM
Author: Onyx Bossy Orchestra Pit Chad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#49143857)



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Date: August 4th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#49156580)



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Date: August 10th, 2025 8:35 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#49172980)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: scarlet partner

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#48969854)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: house-broken white philosopher-king degenerate

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#48969860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: scarlet partner

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#48969863)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: house-broken white philosopher-king degenerate

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#48969954)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: scarlet partner

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#48971066)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Bonkers kitchen ape

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#49065184)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: dead range



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#49098592)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: charcoal appetizing piazza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#49098608)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: 180 Emerald Area

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#48970037)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: Clear dog poop native

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#48970041)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: Drunken mahogany preventive strike pervert

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#48985033)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: Bonkers kitchen ape

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#49065206)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: insanely creepy cruel-hearted institution antidepressant drug

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#48997602)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: henna gas station

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#49065026)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: wonderful arrogant market giraffe

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id#49105022)