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Is gerrymandering constitutional?
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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:38 PM Author: crusty personal credit line abode I mean obviously it must be, if it's always been done and hasn't been challenged, but what specifically grants states the right to do it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2...id#22002135) |
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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:39 PM Author: odious maize parlour the courts by not stopping it?
as long as they don't have some racially driven motivation it's usually upheld. |
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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:41 PM Author: crusty personal credit line abode So it's just something that's not discussed at all in the Constitution either way, and since it's not, then it must be allowed, right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2...id#22002162) |
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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:45 PM Author: odious maize parlour no it is discussed, but it's very hard to stop based on the constitution or the Voting Rights Act. In fact, the VRA almost justifies gerrymandering because it's hard to tamper with majority minority districts. So a lot of Southern States have the justification to keep districts that are 90% black rather than a couple districts that are 45% black. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2...id#22002186) |
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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:47 PM Author: crusty personal credit line abode so if VRA justifies it, why has it been working against shitlibs recently? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2...id#22002210) |
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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:52 PM Author: adventurous spruce market B/c the VRA requires districts of at least 50% minority population (some courts will say more). If you have 50% blacks in a district, you can be sure there will be a bunch of Hispanics and poor whites too, who similarly vote Democratic, and you end up with 80-90% Dem districts mandated by law.
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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:41 PM Author: adventurous spruce market Liberals got rid of at-large districts and determining the manner of representative elections is given to the state legislatures in art I. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2...id#22002153) |
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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:45 PM Author: Comical jet-lagged toaster Actually Article I Section 4 Clause 1 allows Congress to redistrict if it so pleases. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2...id#22002194) |
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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:47 PM Author: adventurous spruce market Sure but that doesn't change the fact that gerrymandering isn't unconstitutional. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2...id#22002205) |
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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:49 PM Author: crusty personal credit line abode Elaborate on this please (im a non-lawschool bro) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2...id#22002221) |
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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:54 PM Author: adventurous spruce market "The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing [sic] Senators."
Theoretically Congress could pass a law outlawing gerrymandering by some definition, but the default is that the states are allowed to do what they want. |
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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:58 PM Author: crusty personal credit line abode wtf, did they really misspell "choosing"? that's pretty lulzy
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Date: November 8th, 2012 6:00 PM Author: crusty personal credit line abode "Liberals got rid of at-large districts" - what does this mean? What are at-large districts? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2...id#22002313) |
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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:43 PM Author: Pale 180 headpube brunch As is typical with con law and its bullshit, it is not reviewable unless it is too bad. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2...id#22002175) |
Date: November 8th, 2012 5:39 PM Author: iridescent painfully honest party of the first part coffee pot Districts don't draw themselves bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2...id#22002138) |
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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:40 PM Author: Comical jet-lagged toaster Congress needs to basically pass a law mandating that districts be computer-generated ... but LOL @ Congress passing such a law
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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:41 PM Author: iridescent painfully honest party of the first part coffee pot Generated by Karl Rove's computer, yes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2...id#22002156) |
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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:45 PM Author: odious maize parlour cr.
Congress was elected by these gerrymandered districts, they have no incentive to stop this. just like they will never support term limits. |
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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:46 PM Author: Comical jet-lagged toaster Congressional term limits are of questionable constitutionality (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2...id#22002197) |
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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:48 PM Author: Citrine Histrionic Orchestra Pit District borders should be geographically drawn and not used wildly as random political tools (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2...id#22002218) |
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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:50 PM Author: crusty personal credit line abode agreed, although "geographically drawn" seems to be very subjective as well (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2...id#22002231) |
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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:52 PM Author: Comical jet-lagged toaster this could be easily achieved with a computer algorithm that tries to minimize a measure called 'distortion.' This is a mathematically well-studied problem. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2...id#22002247) |
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Date: November 8th, 2012 7:53 PM Author: crusty personal credit line abode hm. somehow i doubt congress would pass something which would require doing something via a computer algorithm. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2...id#22002982) |
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Date: November 8th, 2012 5:56 PM Author: crusty personal credit line abode This seem to be the cr way to do it:
http://www.timesunion.com/opinion/article/Gerrymandering-Not-in-Iowa-1336319.php
Why cant more states do it like Iowa? |
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Date: November 8th, 2012 8:30 PM Author: crusty personal credit line abode (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2...id#22003267) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 8:47 PM Author: Amethyst Stain lol I forgot libs started this anti-gerrymandering campaign as soon as they won in 2012 because they thought they deserved the House too. Almost worked. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2108592&forum_id=2...id#49141615) |
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