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They met in September 2019, when one of Mr. Viall’s Instagram photos popped up on Ms. Joy’s Explore page. She thought he was attractive, so she decided to send him a cheeky message: “You’re unreal.”

Though he doesn’t usually respond to DMs, Ms. Joy, 25, stood out, he said, adding that he thought she was “a very beautiful woman” and was “intrigued.” They started talking on the phone and texting, but they weren’t sure if they would ever actually cross paths in person. At the time, Mr. Viall, 43, was living in the Venice neighborhood of Los Angeles, and Ms. Joy was living in Savannah, where she grew up.

In October 2019, Mr. Viall traveled to New York for a work engagement. (He had been an account executive at Salesforce before first appearing on “The Bachelorette” in 2014 and eventually transitioning to author, podcast host and media personality.)

Ms. Joy, who had lived in New York for two years after dropping out of high school at 15 to pursue a modeling career, flew to New York as well. The plan was to meet him in person while also catching up with old friends.

They met at the Williamsburg Hotel, had dinner and drinks and walked around Brooklyn. She had such a great time that she spent the whole weekend with him and ended up “ghosting” her friends, she said.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/29/style/bachelor-nick-viall-natalie-joy-wedding.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522747&forum_id=2...id#47618667)

About four months after they started seeing each other, she told him that. “Nick politely declined,” Ms. Joy said. He had been single for a while and was hesitant to enter a relationship. (As for their age difference, Mr. Viall has said that it initially “was something I was self-conscious about.”)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522747&forum_id=2...id#47618687)

One day that summer, he FaceTimed her as she was getting ready for a date, and he asked her what she was getting ready for. She told him the truth. “I didn’t have the right to get mad,” Mr. Viall said. “I was more frustrated with myself. And I respected her for sticking to her guns.”

Ms. Joy became less and less available — answering his calls less often and responding to his texts slower. “I wasn’t fully giving her everything she deserved at the time,” Mr. Viall said.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522747&forum_id=2...id#47619932)

lol if you get ghosted by women on a date, if they really want you, they'll ghost their "friends" instead.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522747&forum_id=2...id#47618712)

of course this guy's personal media brand has about a five year lifespan if he's lucky and she's already flashing hanging her tits in front of numerous young plastic surgeons working at clinics in beverly hills so i think the article is silently inviting LOLs at how this ultimately shakes out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522747&forum_id=2...id#47620040)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5522747&forum_id=2...id#47620117)