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rating poasters as bizarre classical music from the 20th/21st centuries

mostly solo piano.
Well-lubricated university
  01/17/26
requesting Chopin pls
Heady Iridescent Principal's Office Sound Barrier
  01/17/26
Chopin is from the 19th century, so we'll have to resort to ...
Well-lubricated university
  01/17/26
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Drab nursing home codepig
  01/17/26
The second nocturne from Sciarrino's Due Notturni Crudeli --...
Well-lubricated university
  01/17/26
wild, ty!
Drab nursing home codepig
  01/17/26
There's usually no middle ground with this type of music: yo...
Well-lubricated university
  01/17/26
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hairraiser forum
  01/17/26
that kind of music generally sucks, but content
Puce Filthy Shrine Hairy Legs
  01/17/26
Have to go with Ferneyhough then. He's obviously a cynical f...
Well-lubricated university
  01/17/26
180, the piece qua music isn't even that horrible, but the u...
Puce Filthy Shrine Hairy Legs
  01/17/26
The problem here is that this incomprehensibly complex style...
Well-lubricated university
  01/17/26
but content tp
light hyperactive native
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mauve vigorous milk stage
  01/17/26
Sorabji's 19th etude. Oddly upbeat and unserious considering...
Well-lubricated university
  01/17/26
Jcm here
cerise immigrant affirmative action
  01/17/26
Julius Eastman's "Crazy Nigger": https://www.youtu...
Well-lubricated university
  01/17/26
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hairraiser forum
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frum comical selfie kitchen
  01/17/26
Hikari Kiyama's "Three Shells" for two hands and o...
Well-lubricated university
  01/17/26
this is completely preposterous
hairraiser forum
  01/17/26
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frum comical selfie kitchen
  01/17/26
I'm Facebook friends with the pianist Ljl
Well-lubricated university
  01/17/26
lmao
hairraiser forum
  01/17/26
And the composer too. Almost forgot.
Well-lubricated university
  01/17/26
...
hairraiser forum
  01/17/26
This isn't even Kiyama's most preposterous piece. Check out ...
Well-lubricated university
  01/18/26
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Bisexual rebellious friendly grandma meetinghouse
  01/17/26
Michael Finnissy's Piano Concerto no. 4 for solo piano: http...
Well-lubricated university
  01/17/26
Nice, still discernible dramatic arc though dissonant
Bisexual rebellious friendly grandma meetinghouse
  01/17/26
Yes, I view this piece as being pushed to the absolute limit...
Well-lubricated university
  01/17/26
I have attended one of the note changes in the Halberstadt p...
hairraiser forum
  01/17/26
I rate you as insufferable minimalism by John Adams. Here's ...
Well-lubricated university
  01/17/26
180 thank you you used the phrase "obviously a cynical...
hairraiser forum
  01/17/26
No doubt John Cage spewed out a lot of pure trash, but some ...
Well-lubricated university
  01/17/26
can you please link me to Cage's pieces for prepared piano y...
hairraiser forum
  01/17/26
Haven't listened to them in over a decade at this point, so ...
Well-lubricated university
  01/17/26
link in here please if any come to mind later on, I've never...
hairraiser forum
  01/17/26
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAImmOqNzzs
Well-lubricated university
  01/17/26
ty
hairraiser forum
  01/17/26
Herbert Henck is a great pianist. I believe his recordings o...
Well-lubricated university
  01/17/26
Damn just looked him up, and he died recently. RIP bro.
Well-lubricated university
  01/17/26
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Stimulating Police Squad
  01/17/26
"Evryali" by Iannis Xenakis, specifically Takahash...
Well-lubricated university
  01/17/26
...
galvanic bronze clown
  01/17/26
is this a compliment? are we friends?
Stimulating Police Squad
  01/17/26
This is my favorite piece by Xenakis.
Well-lubricated university
  01/17/26
I love you so much
Stimulating Police Squad
  01/17/26
...
galvanic bronze clown
  01/17/26
Clarence Barlow's variations on the last movement from Beeth...
Well-lubricated university
  01/17/26
...
provocative pink piazza knife
  01/17/26
I hate to mention the same composer twice, but I can't think...
Well-lubricated university
  01/18/26
do you know this? Fazil Say - Black Earth interesting te...
Drab nursing home codepig
  01/17/26
I know the pianist/composer, but I haven't heard this partic...
Well-lubricated university
  01/17/26
understood. and yes i understand this reaching inside is fr...
Drab nursing home codepig
  01/17/26
Reaching inside was Cowell's innovation. And Cowell was one ...
Well-lubricated university
  01/18/26
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Drab nursing home codepig
  01/18/26


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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:20 AM
Author: Well-lubricated university

mostly solo piano.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596192)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:23 AM
Author: Heady Iridescent Principal's Office Sound Barrier

requesting Chopin pls

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596197)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:27 AM
Author: Well-lubricated university

Chopin is from the 19th century, so we'll have to resort to an early 20th-century reintepretation of Chopin's etudes by Godowsky. Not particularly bizarre, just difficult to perform. Apologies in advance for any disappointment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuEa1XLEVSw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596202)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:24 AM
Author: Drab nursing home codepig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596198)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:29 AM
Author: Well-lubricated university

The second nocturne from Sciarrino's Due Notturni Crudeli -- to be performed with rage per the composer's instructions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_dn3ORLq6s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596206)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:05 PM
Author: Drab nursing home codepig

wild, ty!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596339)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:37 PM
Author: Well-lubricated university

There's usually no middle ground with this type of music: you either love it or violently hate it and think it's just noise.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596419)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:03 PM
Author: hairraiser forum



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596874)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:26 PM
Author: Puce Filthy Shrine Hairy Legs

that kind of music generally sucks, but content

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596394)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:30 PM
Author: Well-lubricated university

Have to go with Ferneyhough then. He's obviously a cynical fraud and charlatan, but that's true of most composers with a similar style. Personally I can't stand any of his music. Enjoy! Just look at how pretentious the piece's title is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYMXbM0RCeU



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596404)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 5:45 PM
Author: Puce Filthy Shrine Hairy Legs

180, the piece qua music isn't even that horrible, but the unreadble notation and beyond pretentious title push it over the top

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49597223)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 8:57 PM
Author: Well-lubricated university

The problem here is that this incomprehensibly complex style is taken to the point where I could create the same semi-random but pointlessly complex music despite me having no talent as a composer. That's why you can't take Ferneyhough or similar composers seriously. But they do want you to take them seriously. After all, Ferneyhough made it all the way to Stanford with this gibberish "music."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49597685)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:58 PM
Author: light hyperactive native

but content tp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49597001)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:41 PM
Author: mauve vigorous milk stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596425)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:47 PM
Author: Well-lubricated university

Sorabji's 19th etude. Oddly upbeat and unserious considering Sorabji's typically serious style: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFZYqLqBHOc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596437)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 1:17 PM
Author: cerise immigrant affirmative action

Jcm here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596525)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 1:18 PM
Author: Well-lubricated university

Julius Eastman's "Crazy Nigger": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aR0naIp9eM

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596530)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:10 PM
Author: hairraiser forum



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596884)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 1:20 PM
Author: frum comical selfie kitchen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596538)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 2:55 PM
Author: Well-lubricated university

Hikari Kiyama's "Three Shells" for two hands and one foot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyy3CRuMQnc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596865)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:22 PM
Author: hairraiser forum

this is completely preposterous

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596919)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:41 PM
Author: frum comical selfie kitchen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596958)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:47 PM
Author: Well-lubricated university

I'm Facebook friends with the pianist Ljl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596979)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:49 PM
Author: hairraiser forum

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596985)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:58 PM
Author: Well-lubricated university

And the composer too. Almost forgot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596999)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 4:48 PM
Author: hairraiser forum



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49597089)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 9:19 AM
Author: Well-lubricated university

This isn't even Kiyama's most preposterous piece. Check out his "Innocent Prisoner" for piano and voice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LIw8ykSmGU

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49598324)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 2:56 PM
Author: Bisexual rebellious friendly grandma meetinghouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596869)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 2:59 PM
Author: Well-lubricated university

Michael Finnissy's Piano Concerto no. 4 for solo piano: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKfFaSWr4m0

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596870)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:38 PM
Author: Bisexual rebellious friendly grandma meetinghouse

Nice, still discernible dramatic arc though dissonant

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596948)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:50 PM
Author: Well-lubricated university

Yes, I view this piece as being pushed to the absolute limit of dissonance and complexity without devolving into randomness. Actually it goes too far, but there's much worse out there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596986)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:05 PM
Author: hairraiser forum

I have attended one of the note changes in the Halberstadt performance of John Cage's As Slow As Possible. Rate me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/As_Slow_as_Possible

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596877)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:10 PM
Author: Well-lubricated university

I rate you as insufferable minimalism by John Adams. Here's his "Phrygian Gates": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DixKnE9HqIU

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596883)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:12 PM
Author: hairraiser forum

180 thank you

you used the phrase "obviously a cynical fraud and charlatan" above and that is how I view Cage but others may disagree

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596891)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:16 PM
Author: Well-lubricated university

No doubt John Cage spewed out a lot of pure trash, but some of his music is actually enjoyable. For instance, his pieces for prepared piano.

Ferneyhough, the fraud and charlatan, is just SPS with no redeeming qualities. It's just unnecessary complexity and near-randomness that ordinary people laugh at (and should).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596904)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:20 PM
Author: hairraiser forum

can you please link me to Cage's pieces for prepared piano you enjoyed?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596915)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:34 PM
Author: Well-lubricated university

Haven't listened to them in over a decade at this point, so I don't remember specific pieces. The interesting ones had minimalist aspects IIRC. The problem with the recordings is the piano preparation and resultant sound varies wildly with each recording. So some recordings sound dull while others are more lively.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596940)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:36 PM
Author: hairraiser forum

link in here please if any come to mind later on, I've never been able to enjoy anything by Cage but I'm open to reassessing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596945)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:40 PM
Author: Well-lubricated university

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAImmOqNzzs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596952)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:49 PM
Author: hairraiser forum

ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596984)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:52 PM
Author: Well-lubricated university

Herbert Henck is a great pianist. I believe his recordings of Cage's works were my favorite.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596991)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:53 PM
Author: Well-lubricated university

Damn just looked him up, and he died recently. RIP bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596993)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:38 PM
Author: Stimulating Police Squad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596950)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:48 PM
Author: Well-lubricated university

"Evryali" by Iannis Xenakis, specifically Takahashi's recording: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbUgAXt75s8

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596980)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 4:52 PM
Author: galvanic bronze clown



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49597105)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 6:25 PM
Author: Stimulating Police Squad

is this a compliment? are we friends?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49597348)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 6:49 PM
Author: Well-lubricated university

This is my favorite piece by Xenakis.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49597403)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 7:24 PM
Author: Stimulating Police Squad

I love you so much

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49597475)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 4:52 PM
Author: galvanic bronze clown



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49597104)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 5:02 PM
Author: Well-lubricated university

Clarence Barlow's variations on the last movement from Beethoven's last piano sonata, for mechanical piano: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gyJkYWdWWo (gets interesting after about 8-10 minutes)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49597137)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 7:00 PM
Author: provocative pink piazza knife



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49597425)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 8:56 AM
Author: Well-lubricated university

I hate to mention the same composer twice, but I can't think of anything more appropriate than Michael Finnissy's Piano Concerto no. 6 for solo piano: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_Y1bZYi60M

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49598298)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 8:10 PM
Author: Drab nursing home codepig

do you know this? Fazil Say - Black Earth

interesting technique

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYtybgToH2Q&t=28s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49597568)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 8:43 PM
Author: Well-lubricated university

I know the pianist/composer, but I haven't heard this particular piece. Classical music snobs would probably thumb their noses at this piece, but the snobs can be ignored. All that matters is whether you like it.

The technique of modifying the sound of the piano by interacting with the strings themselves is not new. Henry Cowell first explored this around 100 or so years ago. John Cage took the idea further in his pieces for prepared piano, which I mentioned earlier.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49597648)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 9:45 PM
Author: Drab nursing home codepig

understood. and yes i understand this reaching inside is from cage - i like this a lot more than him though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49597813)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 8:54 AM
Author: Well-lubricated university

Reaching inside was Cowell's innovation. And Cowell was one of Cage's teachers, if I remember correctly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49598296)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 10:26 AM
Author: Drab nursing home codepig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49598425)