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Fatal flaw in Epstein: if he ever used any of the info he gather he’d be toxic

like if it Bill Richardson wouldn’t play ball and vide...
exhilarant depressive
  02/14/22
How would anyone know it was even Epstein's footage, or that...
erotic opaque coldplay fan
  02/14/22
Presumably Richardson would say so
hyperactive library half-breed
  02/14/22
All Richardson would know is that Epstein hooked him up with...
erotic opaque coldplay fan
  02/14/22
because there would be a backstory and the location of the i...
exhilarant depressive
  02/15/22
it wasnt his operation. he was just a cog in a giant worldwi...
Umber knife
  02/14/22
...
topaz mischievous set mood
  02/14/22
not relevant. if the beneficiaries of his operation ever use...
exhilarant depressive
  02/14/22
There are always enough ppl willing to do anything to get &q...
Umber knife
  02/14/22
cr
underhanded school cafeteria
  02/14/22
jfc
exhilarant depressive
  02/15/22
i'm no expert but i thought you keep 99% of it in reserve an...
Galvanic old irish cottage
  02/14/22
"kike casino machine" is the proper defined term
Brilliant hissy fit kitty
  02/14/22
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Passionate liquid oxygen partner
  02/14/22
"Epstein" wouldn't be doing the blackmailing.
topaz mischievous set mood
  02/14/22
same argument applies to Mossad or whoever would be
exhilarant depressive
  02/14/22
Oh yeah, the truth would all come to light after Bill Richar...
bisexual startled messiness
  02/14/22
"The flaw with nuclear weapons is that once you use the...
avocado double fault cuckold
  02/14/22
great analogy
Umber knife
  02/14/22
Really?
avocado double fault cuckold
  02/14/22
Yep. There's theories actually that "nuclear weapons...
Umber knife
  02/14/22
Your personal take?
avocado double fault cuckold
  02/14/22
As far whether nukes actually exist? I have no idea, but the...
Umber knife
  02/14/22
This makes zero sense. It requires that countries spend bill...
erotic opaque coldplay fan
  02/14/22
"It requires the the people doing the blackmailing neve...
Umber knife
  02/14/22
...
lemon stirring native keepsake machete
  02/14/22
...
Umber knife
  02/14/22
Tell that to the USA and Japan
exhilarant depressive
  02/15/22
the costs to the "bill richardson" character for t...
orange nowag
  02/14/22
they'd never have to use it. just the threat of doing so wou...
Smoky godawful location
  02/14/22
exactly. its mutually assured destruction. it's the only way...
Umber knife
  02/14/22
The threat to release the tape to family members would be us...
Claret aggressive range idiot
  02/14/22
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5f/Mlk-unco...
Claret aggressive range idiot
  02/14/22
Wow didnt know about this, ty.
Umber knife
  02/14/22
FBI was way worse in the 60s/70s than anything they have don...
Claret aggressive range idiot
  02/14/22
Disagree. They've just devised better ways to keep things un...
Umber knife
  02/14/22
They just killed Malcolm X daughter, days after his killer w...
erotic opaque coldplay fan
  02/14/22
He spelled 'behavior' in the first sentence in a way that ma...
avocado double fault cuckold
  02/14/22
yes, he would never use it himself, what's your point?
underhanded school cafeteria
  02/14/22
I'd still like to know what "He belongs to intelligence...
Motley rusted crotch
  02/14/22
Acute lacks of curiosity are the worst kind
hyperactive library half-breed
  02/14/22
this part is hardly a mystery
exhilarant depressive
  02/15/22
The [unnamed federal] prosecutor said that it was clear that...
Motley rusted crotch
  02/14/22
Can't you see Bob, that's the beauty of the whole thing! Now...
Motley rusted crotch
  02/14/22
Francis DeGraumont. I know that name. He's a vendor. We us...
Motley rusted crotch
  02/14/22
I didn't have anything to do with it! Then who did? I don'...
Motley rusted crotch
  02/14/22
He's a vendor, he provides services that certain people feel...
Motley rusted crotch
  02/14/22
Btw the CIA are allowed to recruit foreign visitors to the U...
Motley rusted crotch
  02/14/22
I think the operation, as alleged, would be more subtle than...
fuchsia indian lodge
  02/14/22
agree with the first paragraph. but it was way too smooth...
orange nowag
  02/14/22
Sure, but I'm saying it wasn't Epstein and Maxwell showing u...
fuchsia indian lodge
  02/15/22
oh absolutely -- agreed. and maxwell was even posting on sy...
orange nowag
  02/15/22
not only did she poast, but she had one of the highest karma...
Umber knife
  02/15/22
Isn't it obvious that Ghislaine was Epstein's handler? She i...
indigo stead
  02/14/22
Bullshit she’s being sentenced in June
exhilarant depressive
  02/15/22
Her conviction got thrown out.
bisexual startled messiness
  02/15/22
do you know what a cabal is
sadistic orchid market
  02/15/22
how does it matter? what billionaire wants to be exposed as ...
electric crusty sex offender
  02/15/22
...
"""'"'"""''
  07/18/25
this is the point Mike Benz pushes, but even if it holds wat...
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  07/18/25


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Date: February 14th, 2022 12:49 PM
Author: exhilarant depressive

like if it Bill Richardson wouldn’t play ball and video of him fucking a 14-year-old at Epstein’s ranch emerged as a result then nobody would ever associate with Epstein again which would destroy his entire honeypot operation. discuss.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2...id#43965838)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 1:19 PM
Author: erotic opaque coldplay fan

How would anyone know it was even Epstein's footage, or that he had any role in leaking it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2...id#43966006)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 8:09 PM
Author: hyperactive library half-breed

Presumably Richardson would say so

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2...id#43968222)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 9:50 PM
Author: erotic opaque coldplay fan

All Richardson would know is that Epstein hooked him up with the girl. He wouldn't know whether Epstein was directly complicit in any other aspect of the operation. For all he knows they have Epstein's nuts in a vice too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2...id#43968743)



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Date: February 15th, 2022 12:16 PM
Author: exhilarant depressive

because there would be a backstory and the location of the incident would be widely reported on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2...id#43970975)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 12:50 PM
Author: Umber knife

it wasnt his operation. he was just a cog in a giant worldwide machine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2...id#43965844)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 12:51 PM
Author: topaz mischievous set mood



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2...id#43965851)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 12:52 PM
Author: exhilarant depressive

not relevant. if the beneficiaries of his operation ever used any of the info then the operation would be undermined

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2...id#43965854)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 12:54 PM
Author: Umber knife

There are always enough ppl willing to do anything to get "power". And i mean ANYTHING. Going to his island was one of the only ways to get access to a certain level of "elite" that you otherwise wouldnt be able to (unless you are born into it).

Most who went knew what was going on, they WANTED to become blackmailable, in order to get access to the club.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2...id#43965872)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 6:00 PM
Author: underhanded school cafeteria

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2...id#43967605)



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Date: February 15th, 2022 12:16 PM
Author: exhilarant depressive

jfc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2...id#43970979)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 12:56 PM
Author: Galvanic old irish cottage

i'm no expert but i thought you keep 99% of it in reserve and on the rare occasion you need to play a card you have someone other than Epstein do a "concern troll" on the patsy.

"Bill Richardson, I know that you're getting a lot of heat about the upcoming vote. People are saying nasty things. Someone even told me that there's video of you and an underage girl fucking on some island. All I care about is your vote ..."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2...id#43965891)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 12:53 PM
Author: Brilliant hissy fit kitty

"kike casino machine" is the proper defined term

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2...id#43965864)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 5:36 PM
Author: Passionate liquid oxygen partner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2...id#43967515)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 12:51 PM
Author: topaz mischievous set mood

"Epstein" wouldn't be doing the blackmailing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2...id#43965848)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 12:52 PM
Author: exhilarant depressive

same argument applies to Mossad or whoever would be

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2...id#43965856)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 1:35 PM
Author: bisexual startled messiness

Oh yeah, the truth would all come to light after Bill Richardson's trial, just like with Ghislaine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2...id#43966094)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 12:54 PM
Author: avocado double fault cuckold

"The flaw with nuclear weapons is that once you use them you can no longer threaten to use them."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2...id#43965870)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 12:55 PM
Author: Umber knife

great analogy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2...id#43965883)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 12:56 PM
Author: avocado double fault cuckold

Really?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2...id#43965888)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 12:58 PM
Author: Umber knife

Yep.

There's theories actually that "nuclear weapons" dont actually exist and whenever the media talks about nuclear weapons, its actually code for nuclear level blackmail, so need to read between the lines to understand what theyre actually talking about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2...id#43965902)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 1:20 PM
Author: avocado double fault cuckold

Your personal take?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2...id#43966009)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 1:29 PM
Author: Umber knife

As far whether nukes actually exist? I have no idea, but these days I dont rule anything out.

As far as comms (coded language) in MSM, those definitely exist and are used extensively by the deepstate, as is symbolism. They love using that.

“Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.”

― Confucius

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2...id#43966065)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 5:55 PM
Author: erotic opaque coldplay fan

This makes zero sense. It requires that countries spend billions on scientific research that they mothball. It requires the the people doing the blackmailing never change or die, such that it become pointless to blackmail them anymore. How do India and Pakistan blackmail each other anyway? How does that work?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2...id#43967588)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 7:49 PM
Author: Umber knife

"It requires the the people doing the blackmailing never change or die, such that it become pointless to blackmail them anymore."

the people doing the blackmailing are not blackmailable themselves. they are an invisible force behind the scenes, puppetmasters, etc.

the blackmailed class are all top public figures, politicians, some lead scientists, ceo's, many top celebrities, actors, musicians, pundits, top "news" personalities. essentially most "tastemakers", "thought leaders", anyone the public has trust in, who are famous.

denying that blackmail exists is a bit silly. blackmail + false flags have been used as control mechanism since roman empire.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2...id#43968154)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 1:20 PM
Author: lemon stirring native keepsake machete



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2...id#43966015)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 5:36 PM
Author: Umber knife



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2...id#43967512)



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Date: February 15th, 2022 12:17 PM
Author: exhilarant depressive

Tell that to the USA and Japan

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2...id#43970984)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 12:54 PM
Author: orange nowag

the costs to the "bill richardson" character for taking this gamble would be immense, and one of the other johns would probably kill him if he started talking

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2...id#43965871)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 12:55 PM
Author: Smoky godawful location

they'd never have to use it. just the threat of doing so would be enough. and what's the guy gonna say "yeah i fucked a 14 year old but this guy epstein set it all up!" it's an incredibly risky bluff to call.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2...id#43965879)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 12:56 PM
Author: Umber knife

exactly. its mutually assured destruction. it's the only way they could create 100% loyalty from all participants.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2...id#43965892)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 12:55 PM
Author: Claret aggressive range idiot

The threat to release the tape to family members would be used to blackmail politicians or suggest they kill themselves. Hoover taped MLK fucking hookers and sent him the tape with a deadline of 34 days (before the Nobel ceremony) to commit suicide.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2...id#43965880)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 12:58 PM
Author: Claret aggressive range idiot

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5f/Mlk-uncovered-letter.png

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2...id#43965900)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 1:04 PM
Author: Umber knife

Wow didnt know about this, ty.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2...id#43965934)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 1:12 PM
Author: Claret aggressive range idiot

FBI was way worse in the 60s/70s than anything they have done in the past 40 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2...id#43965975)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 1:16 PM
Author: Umber knife

Disagree. They've just devised better ways to keep things under wraps better (blackmail of all congress, key people in govt) and keep anyone from investigating them or the CIA. Also compartmentalizing everything inside, so only people at the very top knew everything going on, basically like ISIS/Alqueda terorrist cells are structured.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2...id#43965994)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 1:21 PM
Author: erotic opaque coldplay fan

They just killed Malcolm X daughter, days after his killer was exonerated.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2...id#43966017)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 1:22 PM
Author: avocado double fault cuckold

He spelled 'behavior' in the first sentence in a way that made me pronounce it with a French accent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2...id#43966026)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 5:41 PM
Author: underhanded school cafeteria

yes, he would never use it himself, what's your point?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2...id#43967535)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 7:32 PM
Author: Motley rusted crotch

I'd still like to know what "He belongs to intelligence" meant, and why Acosta was told to go easy on him. Our media seem to be suffering from an acute lack of curiosity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2...id#43968057)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 8:10 PM
Author: hyperactive library half-breed

Acute lacks of curiosity are the worst kind

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2...id#43968229)



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Date: February 15th, 2022 12:18 PM
Author: exhilarant depressive

this part is hardly a mystery

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2...id#43970987)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 8:19 PM
Author: Motley rusted crotch

The [unnamed federal] prosecutor said that it was clear that someone in Washington [D.C.] was calling the shots on the case.

-Perversion of Justice: The Jeffrey Epstein Story, by Julie K. Brown



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2...id#43968277)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 8:50 PM
Author: Motley rusted crotch

Can't you see Bob, that's the beauty of the whole thing! Now let's say they need someone in their pocket. Now it's a pain to have to call up and say alright, we need so many legislators, go out and start setting 'em up. I spend my time setting 'em up beforehand. You see, I keep 'em on ice. And that way when they're needed I just turn to the old stockpile, there they are. Now, some of these guys we may never even use. That's okay! Let 'em sweat. Just last week I got a certain foreign ambassador in a midtown hotel with teen twins, real Amazon types. And the best part is, in this guy's home country that particular crime is punishable by death! I gotta tell ya Bob, I look forward to work when it's so much fun.

nbc.com/the-equalizer/video/the-lock-box/3767771



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2...id#43968422)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 8:51 PM
Author: Motley rusted crotch

Francis DeGraumont.

I know that name.

He's a vendor. We use him to provide specific services when required.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2...id#43968430)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 8:51 PM
Author: Motley rusted crotch

I didn't have anything to do with it!

Then who did?

I don't know, I swear. Look, DeGraumont was holding videotapes and pictures, a lot of very graphic material, and a lot of people, any of them has the juice to keep him out.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2...id#43968435)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 8:52 PM
Author: Motley rusted crotch

He's a vendor, he provides services that certain people feel important. So as long as he has value he will be protected, correct?

Yeah, he's a lucky guy. They'll set him up somewhere else, better than here. They have to. It's like you said, the guy is too good at what he does.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2...id#43968438)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 8:55 PM
Author: Motley rusted crotch

Btw the CIA are allowed to recruit foreign visitors to the U.S. (whether willingly or not so willingly). They operate out of front offices in commercial office buildings across the U.S. They apparently don't use the federal buildings

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2...id#43968453)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 8:58 PM
Author: fuchsia indian lodge

I think the operation, as alleged, would be more subtle than that. If you're a dorky NYC private equity exec, and this fun, charming guy you bump into a random fundraiser invites you on his private jet to his estate to party with hot women, you're going to say yes. And after you attend said party and have sex with some of these women, you're going to be amenable to some usually minor request your new best friend until it snowballs to the point where you're full on conspirators.

I doubt he at any point brought up his actual blackmail, if it exists as alleged, to get what he wanted from his subjects. I think it was mostly just him being a glamorous pimp whose 'payment' are in kind favors.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2...id#43968463)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 9:17 PM
Author: orange nowag

agree with the first paragraph.

but it was way too smooth of an operation -- epstein knew what he was doing. and given maxwell's ties, of course it was used for government blackmail

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2...id#43968557)



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Date: February 15th, 2022 1:17 PM
Author: fuchsia indian lodge

Sure, but I'm saying it wasn't Epstein and Maxwell showing up at some PE CEO's house with DVDs of him with a teenager. It was probably much more subtle and even cordial seeming than that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2...id#43971341)



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Date: February 15th, 2022 3:41 PM
Author: orange nowag

oh absolutely -- agreed. and maxwell was even posting on sympathetic reddit forums (and i wonder if she pulled anyone off of there who seemed important too lol). my point is just that, assuredly epstein (or his crew) did blackmail one or more people, explicitly. must have

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2...id#43972385)



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Date: February 15th, 2022 3:44 PM
Author: Umber knife

not only did she poast, but she had one of the highest karma accounts on reddit and was a powermod.

https://www.reddit.com/r/redscarecity/comments/hnh2ve/umaxwellhill_the_reddit_account_with_the_8th_most/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2...id#43972395)



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Date: February 14th, 2022 9:51 PM
Author: indigo stead

Isn't it obvious that Ghislaine was Epstein's handler? She is literally scott free due to a convenient mistrial.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2...id#43968750)



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Date: February 15th, 2022 12:21 PM
Author: exhilarant depressive

Bullshit she’s being sentenced in June

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2...id#43970997)



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Date: February 15th, 2022 1:04 PM
Author: bisexual startled messiness

Her conviction got thrown out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2...id#43971242)



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Date: February 15th, 2022 12:16 PM
Author: sadistic orchid market

do you know what a cabal is

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2...id#43970978)



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Date: February 15th, 2022 12:19 PM
Author: electric crusty sex offender

how does it matter? what billionaire wants to be exposed as a child rapist so he can ruin epstein's future blackmail business

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2...id#43970988)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 4:44 PM
Author: """'"'"""''



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2...id#49112643)



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Date: July 18th, 2025 4:47 PM
Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


this is the point Mike Benz pushes, but even if it holds water it doesn't mean that Mossad can't gently play extortion years later.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5031818&forum_id=2...id#49112665)