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Reached out to an interior designer, RATE this birdshit's rates
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 1:52 PM Author: Paralegal Mohammad (Death, death to the IDF!) $400 initial consultation
$175 per hour after that with a 30 hour minimum
Below are example project scopes and design hours to provide for reference:
• Small bathroom / powder room design: 15-18 hours • Medium / larger bathroom design: 20-30 hours • Kitchen remodel: 30-40 hours • Living room furnishing / styling project (excludes cabinetry design): 20-30 hours • Bedroom furnishing / styling project: 15-20 hours
Oh and if you get her to buy furniture using her discounts she marks that up too (but you won't pay above retail hehe) |
Date: July 22nd, 2025 1:53 PM Author: Paralegal Mohammad (Death, death to the IDF!) BTW, I wanted her to just pick out tiles and shit for 3 bathrooms and a laundry room, I was willing to pay her like $1500 total. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49121996) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 1:54 PM Author: Big if true you're legitimate one of the dumbest jews on the bort (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49122002) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 5:13 PM Author: ..,;,.,;,.,;;,.,..,.,... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49122833) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 1:55 PM Author: Malicious Pedophile Crew (MPC) (gunneratttt) it's a made up job purely for the wives of rich men to pretend to have a career. what did you expect? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49122003) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 2:01 PM Author: Paralegal Mohammad (Death, death to the IDF!) Design is a real skill IMHO and she's very good. But yeah you're basically commissioning an artist at her rates. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49122015) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 2:02 PM Author: autoadmit main character lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49122016) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 2:18 PM Author: Malicious Pedophile Crew (MPC) (gunneratttt) it's a skill any ordinary functioning woman can do.
some are better than others but it's in the same tier as high-end travel agents where it's so superfluous that only people who don't care about that amount of money should even consider it. and the people actually doing it as a legit business command those rates because it's niche and low volume. |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 2:20 PM Author: Paralegal Mohammad (Death, death to the IDF!) any guesses to how she will respond to my reply?
Thanks so much for sending that over — I really appreciate your time and the thoughtfulness behind your approach.
To be transparent, I’m working with a smaller budget (more in the range of $1,500), and I’m really just looking for help with selecting tiles, fixtures, and maybe a few furniture pieces — not any layout changes or a full design package.
Totally understand if that’s outside the scope of what you usually take on, but I really love your style and figured it was worth asking in case there’s a scaled-down way to collaborate.
Either way, I hope we can stay in touch — I’d love to work together in some capacity, now or in the future. |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 3:31 PM Author: Kenneth Play lol chatgpt doing good work here gl. it's as good a chance of success as any other way you'll ask (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49122342) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 4:08 PM Author: Paralegal Mohammad (Death, death to the IDF!) lol damn it was that obvious (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49122486) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 3:38 PM Author: Malicious Pedophile Crew (MPC) (gunneratttt) lmao i hope this is flame.
the cr here is to ghost or say "thanks but no thanks." this is the equivalent of having a private jet salesman show you a plane and emailing him "thanks but can you help me get a good deal on economy round tro detriot instead?" |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 4:08 PM Author: Paralegal Mohammad (Death, death to the IDF!) lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49122485) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 1:26 PM Author: Lawrence, of Arabia (blowing myself to kingdom cum - بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم ) You sound like a woman in that reply. Too much "really"s and "thanks so much" shit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49124842) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 8:49 AM Author: shitlaw boss vibecoding productivity tracker (🧐) any ordinary functioning woman can setup a house which looks good to a man. so could a well-trained capuchin.
but their real desire is to impress other birdbrains and be the birdbrain supreme, which is by definition out of the design skill range of your median woman. so an interior decorator is required. |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 9:00 AM Author: dont run libs the crystal wardens see you birdbrain supreme is a rare moniker opportunity imo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49124132) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 9:28 AM Author: shitlaw boss vibecoding productivity tracker (🧐) reserved for jcm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49124173) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 10:03 AM Author: Malicious Pedophile Crew (MPC) (gunneratttt) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49124259) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 6:26 PM Author: shitlaw boss vibecoding productivity tracker (🧐) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49125699) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 7:36 PM Author: dont run libs the crystal wardens see you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49125896) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 10:14 AM Author: Malicious Pedophile Crew (MPC) (gunneratttt) the birdhrain olympics are at a premium and thus command the price pm quoted. not that different from handbags and all the other veblen activities birdbrains do in their quest for birdbrain supreme.
if paramo is in the rich tier he needs to PAY. for most umcmos you just go to ethan allen or other higher end retailer that offers design services as part of the sale. thats like AAA minor league birdhrain Olympics |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 1:03 PM Author: Take a look at the lawman beating up the wrong guy It’s for gays now. Stay at home wives are now real estate professionals for the many tax benefits. (You can buy investment properties and set passive losses off against your husband’s active gains; you can then borrow against them and spend the money deferring tax consequences for a very long time.) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49124771) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 1:57 PM Author: fulano im confused Small bathroom / powder room design: 15-18 hours means the design and the execution? or she works for 15 hours on designing a bathroom that already exists? |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 1:59 PM Author: Paralegal Mohammad (Death, death to the IDF!) just on design dude. like she works REALLY hard to evoke an emotion or whatever and play with textures (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49122013) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 5:20 PM Author: ..,;,.,;,.,;;,.,..,.,... j/c (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49122857) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 2:00 PM Author: autoadmit main character never pay for an interior designer unless you are Legit Rich
they are almost entirely useless and a complete scam and waste of money |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 2:02 PM Author: Paralegal Mohammad (Death, death to the IDF!) I disagree about them being useless. It's not that easy to have a visually 180 bathroom. But yeah I agree that you'd have to be legit rich to afford this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49122018) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 2:07 PM Author: autoadmit main character you can literally just upload pics to an AI for free and have it design a room and it will look way better than anything 98% of "interior designers" can come up with (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49122029) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 2:09 PM Author: .,.,....,.,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,....,:,.,.:...,:.::, no it can't. you only say that because you're an uncouth heathen. back to your masturbation chamber with you, go go. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49122037) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 2:15 PM Author: autoadmit main character It definitely can. It's more of an indictment of "interior designers" than praise of AI's current capabilities
I probably have more experience with interior designers than anyone else on this board btw |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 2:19 PM Author: Malicious Pedophile Crew (MPC) (gunneratttt) post moniker synergy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49122084) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 2:23 PM Author: eucalyptus bubble bear (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49122100) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 2:25 PM Author: autoadmit main character You're telling me, brother.... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49122105) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 3:04 PM Author: eucalyptus bubble bear (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49122232) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 3:39 PM Author: Malicious Pedophile Crew (MPC) (gunneratttt) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49122371) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 2:19 PM Author: Paralegal Mohammad (Death, death to the IDF!) You know I actually tried that and ChatGPT made a respectable attempt but it felt very corporate and bland imho. Are there any bots you could recommend? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49122080) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 2:29 PM Author: autoadmit main character Tbh I've only tried it with chat gpt but I've heard there are other specialized ones now that could be better
Just treat it like a human interior designer. Tell it that it's an interior designer in your prompt with whatever personality traits or tastes you want. Upload pics of the room you want designed and some inspiration pics, just like you would with a human interior designer. It can try to find products to match or you can give it specific products to render
In general AI can do any Computer Stuff better than most humans man. Like if you actually think about it, does it really seem like a Woman would be better at interior designing than an AI trained with billions of images and access to the whole internet? Hell no lmao |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 1:32 PM Author: Lawrence, of Arabia (blowing myself to kingdom cum - بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم ) Hire a female prostitute who looks good. If she has reasonable fashion sense she'll put a woman's touch on it as well as fellate/fuck you. It would probably take her about 10 hours tops and you get to cum too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49124854) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 1:39 PM Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,. I'm lolling at this idea.
*gets Asian escort who gives a killer massage and makes the whole place look like a large, trashy Kyoto apartment*
*gets Latina escort who is great in bed and makes the whole place look like a cartel boss palace in Mexico*
*gets E. Euro escort who is absolutely stunning but makes the place look like Donald Trump's residences*
Honestly? All of those are probably better choices than paying the interior designer who will make the place look sterile and trendy and where you'll feel like you lit the money on fire. |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 2:10 PM Author: i gave my cousin head ntcr
i have hired 3
2 sucked me off multiple times
1 let me put chocobar |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 8:52 AM Author: shitlaw boss vibecoding productivity tracker (🧐) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49124119) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 2:18 PM Author: Malicious Pedophile Crew (MPC) (gunneratttt) it's funny when lolyers bitch about rates at this level. ive been multiples of this to fucking POAST all day. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49122079) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 2:19 PM Author: mountain cat How many Czechoslovakians has he killed? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49122081) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 2:19 PM Author: Malicious Pedophile Crew (MPC) (gunneratttt) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49122085) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 3:06 PM Author: Diane Rehm talking dirty (🐿️ ) His place looked like shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49122245) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 3:11 PM Author: Paralegal Mohammad (Death, death to the IDF!) Context? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49122267) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 3:33 PM Author: Malicious Pedophile Crew (MPC) (gunneratttt) i love you brother but if you dont watch sopranos within the next year im joining the "paralegal mohammand must go back" retards (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49122350) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 4:08 PM Author: Paralegal Mohammad (Death, death to the IDF!) I tried it just looks too old on the screen now imho (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49122488) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 4:11 PM Author: Malicious Pedophile Crew (MPC) (gunneratttt) get out! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49122500) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 8:52 AM Author: shitlaw boss vibecoding productivity tracker (🧐) jfc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49124120) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 4:28 PM Author: potluck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49122607) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 1:21 PM Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,. As an aside, that was easily my favorite episode of the Sopranos. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49124828) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 6:12 PM Author: Trump Tariffs Can Do No Wrong (TDNW) you have to go back (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49123034) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 8:52 AM Author: fuck computer Out. Out! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49124121) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 3:13 PM Author: Ass Sunstein (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49122277) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 1:20 PM Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49124826) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 3:32 PM Author: Kenneth Play is it possible to find someone to do this for way way cheaper on something like taskrabbit? agree you need an average woman, maybe an average art student too or gay man (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49122346) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 4:09 PM Author: Paralegal Mohammad (Death, death to the IDF!) I hired a fucking Pakistani on Fiverr and he gave me some shitty formulaic crap and didn't take my feedback into account at all (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49122492) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 1:35 PM Author: Lawrence, of Arabia (blowing myself to kingdom cum - بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم ) In my experience persian fags are better at this than Paki fags. try one of those next time, hth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49124865) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 4:43 PM Author: Paralegal Mohammad (Death, death to the IDF!) UPDATE:
To fall within your budget, I could do a virtual design consultation (flat fee $300) or an in person design consultation (flat fee $450) to help select some tiles, fixtures etc. This would be a one time commitment on my part, and we could spend 90 minutes together answering any questions or selecting items for your design. Basically you can use the time however you would like to spend it. With my current work schedule / summer schedule the soonest I have time for this would be August 14th. Let me know if you have any questions about this service.
Seems pretty CR, I might do this imho. |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 4:51 PM Author: Malicious Pedophile Crew (MPC) (gunneratttt) "Basically you can use the time however you would like to spend it."
*however* i want? |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 5:16 PM Author: Paralegal Mohammad (Death, death to the IDF!) haha wow, didn't even register that. i'm getting old (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49122843) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 5:07 PM Author: Paralegal Muhammad Is this cowshit impersonating PM to sound lame and gay itt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49122807) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 5:09 PM Author: Malicious Pedophile Crew (MPC) (gunneratttt) i'm somewhat miffed i've never been lampooned by cowgod (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49122819) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 5:16 PM Author: Paralegal Mohammad (Death, death to the IDF!) it's an honor i do not take lightly (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49122844) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 5:21 PM Author: eucalyptus bubble bear (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49122863) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 5:54 PM Author: Malicious Pedophile Crew (MPC) (gunneratttt) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49122966) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 6:22 PM Author: Paralegal Muhammad You’re totally nondescript imo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49123073) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 6:54 PM Author: Malicious Pedophile Crew (MPC) (gunneratttt) people have very strong opinions about me afaict (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49123131) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 6:55 PM Author: 'What Is It?' an essay by Crispin Hellion Glover “Waaaah! I need recognition! I need attention! Waaaah! I’m a woman brained faggot! Waaaaah! Me me me!” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49123135) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 9:36 AM Author: ,.,...,..,.,.,:,.:,.,.,:.:,..,..,:,.,.:.:.,:.;:. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49124199) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 5:21 PM Author: ..,;,.,;,.,;;,.,..,.,... this seems fair. DONE.
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 5:25 PM Author: Paralegal Mohammad (Death, death to the IDF!) TITCR. Gonna do a bunch of the legwork before she cums so all we're doing is executing, imho. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49122879) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 5:14 PM Author: ..,;,.,;,.,;;,.,..,.,... just buy some of those designer mags and make your own choices or ask an ASSociate at homedepo for opinions/thoughts (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49122835) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 6:01 PM Author: Drunkard I will do it for $1500 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49123001) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 6:14 PM Author: Trump Tariffs Can Do No Wrong (TDNW) is that a lot of money to you?
maybe just go talk to the guy at Lowe’s and diy |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 10:20 AM Author: ..,;,.,;,.,;;,.,..,.,... the guy at Lowe's that will actually talk to customers is a retired fire fighter and knows nothing of powder rooms (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49124302) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 6:31 PM Author: Pope Leo XXX is she hot? also if you pay does she flirt/give off the impression you can fuck? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49123100) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 6:39 PM Author: Trump Tariffs Can Do No Wrong (TDNW) op is a smelly muzzie
it’s more likely that she over quoted so that she didn’t have to be around him |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 6:56 PM Author: Malicious Pedophile Crew (MPC) (gunneratttt) having met paralegalmo irl i can assure you he smells of cardamom, saffron, lavender, wood, smoke... like a swarthy arab buccaneer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49123138) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2025 8:53 PM Author: Candy Ride Seems cheap for California. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49123445) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 8:46 AM Author: Jason Genova Lmao at this paypig CUCK paying a sloot for anything other than sex (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49124106) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 8:56 AM Author: Senior Ethics Official Sounds like he can fuck her for 90 minutes. Need pics. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49124130) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 9:00 AM Author: Jason Genova Can but won’t (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49124134) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 1:17 PM Author: Take a look at the lawman beating up the wrong guy I have a gay guy design student who we paid like $250 per hour in NYC. He helped us choose paint colors, cabinet pulls, rugs, lighting fixtures, lamps, tables, chairs, wallpaper, coffee tables, baby furniture, beds, art, “objets,” and dressers. It was totally worth it, and he ended up saving me money by finding excellent vintage pieces through Chairish and local dealers. I think he ended up costing us like $5K which was well worth it to be able to make good decisions on all these things. (I am confident our apartment will sell for a higher price and faster if we ever need to sell it due to his design decisions.) But this was like 10 years ago, so rates may have gone up.
Don’t let them do a ton of work on their own. Send them design inspiration on Pinterest and say make me a room that looks like this. They can then find similar looking pieces in your price point. And he can tell you what “mistakes” from that design to avoid and how to make it not clash with what’s already in your space or what else you are planning to do. |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 1:34 PM Author: Trump Tariffs Can Do No Wrong (TDNW) yeah designers LOVE Pinterest slop
Lmao |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 1:42 PM Author: Take a look at the lawman beating up the wrong guy A designer will use inspiration you show them to design stuff that will be appealing to you, fuckface. |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 2:20 PM Author: Trump Tariffs Can Do No Wrong (TDNW) yes, they chose design because they just want to try and replicate online slop that any bored housewife can do
just like a trained chef loves working at Five Guys |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 1:42 PM Author: ,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,:,,:,,.,:::,.,,.,:.,,.:.,:.,:.::,. Guy was an interior decorator (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49124887) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2025 1:44 PM Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,. By the way, what an astonishing waste of money. Do you really not know how you want the place where you live to look? You are paying her expensive escort rates to select whatever is trendy and will need to be redone in a few years. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753385&forum_id=2...id#49124893) |