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Why are homeless people basically just white or black?

not that many homeless asian or latinodoods.
charismatic cerise national
  02/22/12
dont stereotype cumskins bro
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wrf? Shit tons of homeless Latino bros. Fewer azns because a...
godawful tanning salon french chef
  02/22/12
and the women work in massage parlors to support their famil...
milky haunted graveyard lay
  02/22/12
not really, no. latino doods work hard or go home.
charismatic cerise national
  02/22/12
latinos might like to think that, but I see too many latino ...
lilac faggot firefighter nursing home
  02/22/12
flame.
Harsh sable kitchen
  02/22/12
in places like LA that are half mexican, mexicans probably m...
sapphire brethren orchestra pit
  02/22/12
not quite in Los Angeles. Latino 47% of total populati...
Pale Nighttime Hall
  02/22/12
this is such a myth about azns, my family was broke as a jok...
Glassy Boyish Internal Respiration
  02/22/12
Seems like flame. Define broke.
godawful tanning salon french chef
  02/22/12
my parents came here with a few thousand dollars and we live...
Glassy Boyish Internal Respiration
  02/22/12
"my parents came here with a few thousand dollars and w...
lilac faggot firefighter nursing home
  02/22/12
what does the average american make? 3 grand a month? unle...
Glassy Boyish Internal Respiration
  02/22/12
So they had money, a place to stay and presumably a job/care...
godawful tanning salon french chef
  02/22/12
what you just described in your post is not most americans, ...
Glassy Boyish Internal Respiration
  02/22/12
Not most Americans. Most homeless. And not speaking English ...
godawful tanning salon french chef
  02/22/12
probably true but comparing the average homeless person to t...
Glassy Boyish Internal Respiration
  02/22/12
Ok, maybe not huge $$$, but they have some combination of sk...
godawful tanning salon french chef
  02/22/12
i can agree with this, i think strong family bonds is what m...
Glassy Boyish Internal Respiration
  02/22/12
you can be "broke," but you're still richer than m...
lilac faggot firefighter nursing home
  02/22/12
they saved up a few thousand for the move, that's about it, ...
Glassy Boyish Internal Respiration
  02/22/12
Yeah Hmoobs and Cambodians are chronically poor. A lot of 1s...
crusty university newt
  01/06/26
azns are good at math/sci & latinos are willing to perfo...
silver mind-boggling half-breed
  02/22/12
this
glittery pervert indian lodge
  02/22/12
immigrants go home if they cant make it here.
Harsh sable kitchen
  02/22/12
(has never been to LA)
Stimulating shrine
  02/22/12
some races have more losers than others
slimy public bath blood rage
  02/22/12
WTF, the Asians who work at fast Chinese food stores aren't ...
topaz unhinged hominid
  02/22/12
i've always wondered what their lives are like. what kind o...
slimy public bath blood rage
  02/22/12
we lived with family in tight quarters with my aunt for the ...
Glassy Boyish Internal Respiration
  02/22/12
were your family members made up of those people who slave a...
slimy public bath blood rage
  02/22/12
my dad worked as a janitor and my mom worked at a sewing sho...
Glassy Boyish Internal Respiration
  02/22/12
what are they doing now?
slimy public bath blood rage
  02/22/12
he sold them to human traffickers
silver mind-boggling half-breed
  02/22/12
they eventually saved up enough to open up a resturaunt, the...
Glassy Boyish Internal Respiration
  02/22/12
They would have worked twice as hard back home in Korea for ...
crusty university newt
  01/06/26
credited, maybe i'm reading too much into it, but when i hea...
Glassy Boyish Internal Respiration
  02/22/12
Having that extended family that'll allow you to room with t...
godawful tanning salon french chef
  02/22/12
you think your case is typical of the average white american...
Glassy Boyish Internal Respiration
  02/22/12
what kind of HS did you attend? probably really ghetto, righ...
silver mind-boggling half-breed
  02/22/12
the elementary school and junior high i attended was ghetto,...
Glassy Boyish Internal Respiration
  02/22/12
mine too. all of the whites I knew were pressured to GTFO A...
silver mind-boggling half-breed
  02/22/12
this seems mildly flamish, what parents let their daughter m...
Glassy Boyish Internal Respiration
  02/22/12
You're confusing azns with indiandoods
milky haunted graveyard lay
  02/22/12
Come to think of it, I've never seen a homeless Latino in NY...
electric vengeful space
  02/22/12
Me neither, I only ever see blacks and whites.
topaz unhinged hominid
  02/22/12
They tend to live in the same house, lots. I've seen some...
Talented cyan rigor dilemma
  02/22/12
I think Asians and Hispanics tend to help each other a lot m...
topaz unhinged hominid
  02/22/12
mexicans & asians usually have huge extended families an...
Twisted knife kitty cat
  02/22/12
Americans are more individualistic. People of other national...
milky haunted graveyard lay
  02/22/12
Right, Americans think of each other as products. Because th...
topaz unhinged hominid
  02/22/12
I have plenty of homeless Latino clients. I think I see them...
dashing crackhouse
  12/23/25
asians and latinos have strong family structures
ruby know-it-all jewess hospital
  12/23/25
dont stereotype cumskins as not having family values, RACIST
Stubborn Parlour Mood
  12/23/25
Asians and Latinos have countries they can return to if life...
Cobalt stag film factory reset button
  01/06/26
asians and latinos barged into the country just recently. ju...
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Date: February 22nd, 2012 9:18 PM
Author: charismatic cerise national

not that many homeless asian or latinodoods.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1880859&forum_id=2...id#20031309)



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Date: December 22nd, 2025 1:44 AM
Author: Stubborn Parlour Mood

dont stereotype cumskins bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1880859&forum_id=2...id#49529780)



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Date: December 22nd, 2025 8:02 PM
Author: Stubborn Parlour Mood



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1880859&forum_id=2...id#49532282)



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Date: December 23rd, 2025 5:56 PM
Author: Stubborn Parlour Mood



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1880859&forum_id=2...id#49534997)



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Date: December 28th, 2025 7:27 PM
Author: Stubborn Parlour Mood



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1880859&forum_id=2...id#49545729)



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Date: December 29th, 2025 9:12 PM
Author: Stubborn Parlour Mood



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1880859&forum_id=2...id#49548599)



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Date: January 4th, 2026 8:57 PM
Author: Stubborn Parlour Mood



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1880859&forum_id=2...id#49562704)



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Date: January 6th, 2026 10:33 PM
Author: Stubborn Parlour Mood



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1880859&forum_id=2...id#49568048)



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Date: February 22nd, 2012 9:20 PM
Author: godawful tanning salon french chef

wrf? Shit tons of homeless Latino bros. Fewer azns because azns that come here have to come from families that can pay $$$ to come here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1880859&forum_id=2...id#20031332)



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Date: February 22nd, 2012 9:21 PM
Author: milky haunted graveyard lay

and the women work in massage parlors to support their families.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1880859&forum_id=2...id#20031340)



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Date: February 22nd, 2012 9:22 PM
Author: charismatic cerise national

not really, no. latino doods work hard or go home.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1880859&forum_id=2...id#20031350)



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Date: February 22nd, 2012 9:23 PM
Author: lilac faggot firefighter nursing home

latinos might like to think that, but I see too many latino homeless for this to be true

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1880859&forum_id=2...id#20031370)



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Date: February 22nd, 2012 9:24 PM
Author: Harsh sable kitchen

flame.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1880859&forum_id=2...id#20031377)



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Date: February 22nd, 2012 9:25 PM
Author: sapphire brethren orchestra pit

in places like LA that are half mexican, mexicans probably make up like 10% of the homeless.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1880859&forum_id=2...id#20031390)



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Date: February 22nd, 2012 9:27 PM
Author: Pale Nighttime Hall

not quite

in Los Angeles.

Latino 47% of total population 33% of homeless

White 30% of total population 14% of homeless

African American 9% of total population 50% of homeless

Asian/Pacific Islander 12% of total population 2% of homeless

Other 2% Less than 1% of homeless

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1880859&forum_id=2...id#20031415)



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Date: February 22nd, 2012 9:23 PM
Author: Glassy Boyish Internal Respiration

this is such a myth about azns, my family was broke as a joke, and so were plenty of other asians i met in college

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1880859&forum_id=2...id#20031366)



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Date: February 22nd, 2012 9:24 PM
Author: godawful tanning salon french chef

Seems like flame. Define broke.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1880859&forum_id=2...id#20031378)



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Date: February 22nd, 2012 9:25 PM
Author: Glassy Boyish Internal Respiration

my parents came here with a few thousand dollars and we lived with our aunt until we they got on their feet, she was lower middle class at best

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1880859&forum_id=2...id#20031394)



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Date: February 22nd, 2012 9:26 PM
Author: lilac faggot firefighter nursing home

"my parents came here with a few thousand dollars and we lived with our aunt until we they got on their feet,"

like i said, seems broke to you, but a lot more than most americans have

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1880859&forum_id=2...id#20031407)



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Date: February 22nd, 2012 9:27 PM
Author: Glassy Boyish Internal Respiration

what does the average american make? 3 grand a month? unless you completely financially fucked yourself over, the average american can save that in half a year, my parents probably saved for about 5 years to come over

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1880859&forum_id=2...id#20031419)



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Date: February 22nd, 2012 9:36 PM
Author: godawful tanning salon french chef

So they had money, a place to stay and presumably a job/career lined up. Gotcha.

That's better than a dude with a felony or debt or noskillspwned and no family etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1880859&forum_id=2...id#20031500)



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Date: February 22nd, 2012 9:39 PM
Author: Glassy Boyish Internal Respiration

what you just described in your post is not most americans, except the noskillspwned and debt thing.

Someone with no skills was better off than my parents, for 1 you can speak english that's already a GIGANTIC leg up. The debt thing is usually too much consumer spending that was unnecessary and if that's the reason someone homeless well i don't know what to say



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1880859&forum_id=2...id#20031526)



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Date: February 22nd, 2012 9:42 PM
Author: godawful tanning salon french chef

Not most Americans. Most homeless. And not speaking English isn't a huge deal if you're plugged into the insular Chinese community.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1880859&forum_id=2...id#20031551)



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Date: February 22nd, 2012 9:45 PM
Author: Glassy Boyish Internal Respiration

probably true but comparing the average homeless person to the average asian american population doesn't explain differences in homelessness

"Fewer azns because azns that come here have to come from families that can pay $$$ to come here."

this seems to imply someone who was rich in their home country, and i'm telling u that's not true for many if not most first generation asian americans. Maybe the ones who move straight into upper-middle class neighborhoods but that's not the case usually.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1880859&forum_id=2...id#20031572)



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Date: February 22nd, 2012 9:51 PM
Author: godawful tanning salon french chef

Ok, maybe not huge $$$, but they have some combination of skill, work lined up, and extended family willing to help. Homeless people almost without fail lack these. If they are homeless due to drugs/mental illness this also usually stems from weak family help in one way or another.

I'm not saying all azns are rich and shouldn't have implied that, but on avg I'd say that have stronger assets tangible or otherwise.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1880859&forum_id=2...id#20031620)



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Date: February 22nd, 2012 9:53 PM
Author: Glassy Boyish Internal Respiration

i can agree with this, i think strong family bonds is what makes the difference in the homelessness numbers personally

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1880859&forum_id=2...id#20031639)



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Date: February 22nd, 2012 9:24 PM
Author: lilac faggot firefighter nursing home

you can be "broke," but you're still richer than most people if you can afford intercontinental immigration, generally.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1880859&forum_id=2...id#20031382)



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Date: February 22nd, 2012 9:26 PM
Author: Glassy Boyish Internal Respiration

they saved up a few thousand for the move, that's about it, anybody who's smart with their money can do this, except maybe minimum wage earners

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1880859&forum_id=2...id#20031404)



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Date: January 6th, 2026 10:38 PM
Author: crusty university newt

Yeah Hmoobs and Cambodians are chronically poor. A lot of 1st gen Vietnamese and Korean came up poor af in the 80s.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1880859&forum_id=2...id#49568054)



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Date: February 22nd, 2012 9:22 PM
Author: silver mind-boggling half-breed

azns are good at math/sci & latinos are willing to perform backbreaking labor

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1880859&forum_id=2...id#20031356)



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Date: February 22nd, 2012 9:22 PM
Author: glittery pervert indian lodge

this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1880859&forum_id=2...id#20031362)



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Date: February 22nd, 2012 9:23 PM
Author: Harsh sable kitchen

immigrants go home if they cant make it here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1880859&forum_id=2...id#20031372)



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Date: February 22nd, 2012 9:24 PM
Author: Stimulating shrine

(has never been to LA)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1880859&forum_id=2...id#20031389)



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Date: February 22nd, 2012 9:26 PM
Author: slimy public bath blood rage

some races have more losers than others

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1880859&forum_id=2...id#20031403)



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Date: February 22nd, 2012 9:27 PM
Author: topaz unhinged hominid

WTF, the Asians who work at fast Chinese food stores aren't any close to wealthy. It's uncertain why they don't go homeless, but they are definitely not rich or even close.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1880859&forum_id=2...id#20031416)



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Date: February 22nd, 2012 9:28 PM
Author: slimy public bath blood rage

i've always wondered what their lives are like. what kind of living arrangements do the ones outside of major cities have? i'm imagining a dozen people crammed into a 1 bedroom apartment, possibly divided up with hanging sheets

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1880859&forum_id=2...id#20031426)



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Date: February 22nd, 2012 9:31 PM
Author: Glassy Boyish Internal Respiration

we lived with family in tight quarters with my aunt for the first 2-3 years we were in america, not anything close to a dozen of us in a 1 bedroom apt tho, 5 of us in a two bedroom tho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1880859&forum_id=2...id#20031442)



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Date: February 22nd, 2012 9:34 PM
Author: slimy public bath blood rage

were your family members made up of those people who slave away in the kitchen portion of a chinese take-out place? those are the ones i mean. usually there are at least a half a dozen of them working, even when it is slow. i can't imagine a take-out place generates enough money to pay them even minimum wage. sometimes i wonder if they are indentured servants

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1880859&forum_id=2...id#20031482)



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Date: February 22nd, 2012 9:36 PM
Author: Glassy Boyish Internal Respiration

my dad worked as a janitor and my mom worked at a sewing shop, this might sound a little strange but i saw my mom and dad's tax returns from 1980 something and it almost made me cry the suffering that they went through, my mom and dad made a combined total of 6 grand that year, i think my mom was making below minimum wage

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1880859&forum_id=2...id#20031497)



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Date: February 22nd, 2012 9:38 PM
Author: slimy public bath blood rage

what are they doing now?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1880859&forum_id=2...id#20031509)



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Date: February 22nd, 2012 9:39 PM
Author: silver mind-boggling half-breed

he sold them to human traffickers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1880859&forum_id=2...id#20031520)



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Date: February 22nd, 2012 9:42 PM
Author: Glassy Boyish Internal Respiration

they eventually saved up enough to open up a resturaunt, then a dry cleaners, now they are retired

it pisses me off when ppl assume we came over here with like 100s of thousands of dollars and now because of that they live wel, they worked their asses off

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1880859&forum_id=2...id#20031547)



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Date: January 6th, 2026 10:40 PM
Author: crusty university newt

They would have worked twice as hard back home in Korea for 1/10 of that money. They knew

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1880859&forum_id=2...id#49568058)



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Date: February 22nd, 2012 9:29 PM
Author: Glassy Boyish Internal Respiration

credited, maybe i'm reading too much into it, but when i hear ppl talk about how asians do well in america because they were the upper echelons of society in their home country it makes me think they are minimizing what asian ameicans have accomplished, especially since from my experience MOST asians who come over don't have PhDs or were wealthy when they came over

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1880859&forum_id=2...id#20031432)



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Date: February 22nd, 2012 9:44 PM
Author: godawful tanning salon french chef

Having that extended family that'll allow you to room with them is a big asset bro. I got booted from my parents house and my grandparents house and they both had extra rooms.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1880859&forum_id=2...id#20031556)



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Date: February 22nd, 2012 9:46 PM
Author: Glassy Boyish Internal Respiration

you think your case is typical of the average white american family? most all my friends were white in high school, don't know a single one who wasn't free to go back home if they chose to, and a lot of them did make that choice

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1880859&forum_id=2...id#20031581)



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Date: February 22nd, 2012 9:50 PM
Author: silver mind-boggling half-breed

what kind of HS did you attend? probably really ghetto, right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1880859&forum_id=2...id#20031611)



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Date: February 22nd, 2012 9:52 PM
Author: Glassy Boyish Internal Respiration

the elementary school and junior high i attended was ghetto, the HS i attended was solidly middle class

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1880859&forum_id=2...id#20031627)



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Date: February 22nd, 2012 10:02 PM
Author: silver mind-boggling half-breed

mine too. all of the whites I knew were pressured to GTFO ASAP & very few were allowed to return after college.

my white female cousin fell on hard times & had to move in with some weird nigger she barely knew because nobody in her family would help her get back on her feet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1880859&forum_id=2...id#20031721)



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Date: February 22nd, 2012 10:04 PM
Author: Glassy Boyish Internal Respiration

this seems mildly flamish, what parents let their daughter move into some weird person's house rather than let them move back home.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1880859&forum_id=2...id#20031734)



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Date: February 22nd, 2012 9:44 PM
Author: milky haunted graveyard lay

You're confusing azns with indiandoods

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1880859&forum_id=2...id#20031559)



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Date: February 22nd, 2012 9:34 PM
Author: electric vengeful space

Come to think of it, I've never seen a homeless Latino in NYC.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1880859&forum_id=2...id#20031484)



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Date: February 22nd, 2012 9:36 PM
Author: topaz unhinged hominid

Me neither, I only ever see blacks and whites.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1880859&forum_id=2...id#20031496)



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Date: February 22nd, 2012 9:36 PM
Author: Talented cyan rigor dilemma

They tend to live in the same house, lots.

I've seen some, btw. Penn Station, Union Square station, etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1880859&forum_id=2...id#20031499)



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Date: February 22nd, 2012 9:41 PM
Author: topaz unhinged hominid

I think Asians and Hispanics tend to help each other a lot more, so they wouldn't let each other be on the street, perhaps? Whites and blacks are Americans and they have different values, so they can easily ignore each other.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1880859&forum_id=2...id#20031542)



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Date: February 22nd, 2012 9:39 PM
Author: Twisted knife kitty cat

mexicans & asians usually have huge extended families and are used to having houseguests. whites & blacks don't have tight extended families and are more individualistic.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1880859&forum_id=2...id#20031524)



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Date: February 22nd, 2012 9:45 PM
Author: milky haunted graveyard lay

Americans are more individualistic. People of other nationalities (blacks/whites) are not like their american counterparts

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1880859&forum_id=2...id#20031574)



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Date: February 22nd, 2012 9:52 PM
Author: topaz unhinged hominid

Right, Americans think of each other as products. Because the American culture has capitalism at its core.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1880859&forum_id=2...id#20031626)



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Date: December 23rd, 2025 6:00 PM
Author: dashing crackhouse

I have plenty of homeless Latino clients. I think I see them just as much if not more than homeless whites

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1880859&forum_id=2...id#49535014)



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Date: December 23rd, 2025 6:01 PM
Author: ruby know-it-all jewess hospital

asians and latinos have strong family structures

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1880859&forum_id=2...id#49535019)



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Date: December 23rd, 2025 6:27 PM
Author: Stubborn Parlour Mood

dont stereotype cumskins as not having family values, RACIST

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1880859&forum_id=2...id#49535085)



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Date: January 6th, 2026 11:37 PM
Author: Cobalt stag film factory reset button

Asians and Latinos have countries they can return to if life in the US is not working out for them.

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Date: January 6th, 2026 11:53 PM
Author: Bossy wonderful goyim

asians and latinos barged into the country just recently. just wait a bit their kids will be homeless soon enough.

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