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PSA: Jones Day is ranked 15 by Vault and doesn't pay lockstep
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:24 PM Author: fragrant stead Senior associates making $260k. This is a SHIT profession. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2...id#36252934) |
Date: June 15th, 2018 4:27 PM Author: fluffy abode “I like working for a firm that has its finances in order!” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2...id#36252952) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:33 PM Author: Exciting unhinged toaster As I understand it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2...id#36253562) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM Author: Aquamarine Kitchen they're a rust belt firm filled with miserable strivers. the high ranking is from their NY and DC specialty practices, which didn't arrive until the 80s. they lost their entire DC office when it broke off to form crowell & moring (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2...id#36252972) |
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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:10 PM Author: Bossy Karate Legend oh we got a legal expert here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2...id#43231415) |
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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:41 AM Author: fragrant stead (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2...id#43955203) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM Author: vivacious principal's office they have no debt as I understand it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2...id#36252979) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:33 PM Author: vivacious principal's office 260k is a huge salary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2...id#36252984) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM Author: offensive jew goes a long way in shaker heights (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2...id#36252989) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:49 PM Author: Ruddy hospital elastic band Cr. Thats city janitor money (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2...id#36253068) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM Author: frisky anal range nibblets Something tells me they have no problems hiring. The legal profession will always have a massive oversupply problem unless major changes are made. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2...id#36252986) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:14 PM Author: Zippy Contagious Cuckold How did this shit analysis not get called out in 2018? V25 firms are all competing over the same band of graduates and to a lesser extent laterals. There's an oversupply of lawyers in the country but there isn't an oversupply of Class of 2017 Stanford Law graduates willing to do debt financing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2...id#41935785) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:35 PM Author: Bonkers chad It's probably a decent firm if you want to increase your chances of making a career of it v. maximizing your earnings. That's always been my impression, although maybe incorrect. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2...id#36252995) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM Author: Aquamarine Kitchen they de-equitize all the time. so yea, if you want to live in the midwest making six figures as basically a career of counsel, it might work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2...id#36253002) |
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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM Author: fragrant stead is this that coked up "written work, the way 9.3 interacts with 7.2" guy? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2...id#43231447) |
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Date: January 18th, 2025 10:31 PM Author: fragrant stead (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2...id#48564541) |
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Date: August 12th, 2025 12:32 PM Author: I hate being a lawyer and want to die (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2...id#49178251) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:50 PM Author: Fighting dashing sanctuary omg 260k where do they get off (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2...id#36253074) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:24 PM Author: fragrant stead For the record I’m at a much lower ranked firm that doesn’t pay lockstep and was making 260k when I made partner. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2...id#36253521) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 10:35 PM Author: fragrant stead Explain (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2...id#36254517) |
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Date: June 16th, 2018 2:30 PM Author: fragrant stead (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2...id#36256523) |
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Date: September 4th, 2018 2:24 PM Author: fragrant stead (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2...id#36743851) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:28 PM Author: stimulating chestnut church love of her life yeah, but with "Jones Day" on your resume, you put in some time and then afterwards you basically write your own ticket (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2...id#36253827) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:46 PM Author: Swollen charcoal headpube To be fair,
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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:22 PM Author: fragrant stead (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2...id#41933386) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:21 PM Author: at-the-ready yarmulke meetinghouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2...id#41933826) |
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Date: October 14th, 2021 1:53 PM Author: fragrant stead (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2...id#43271055) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:36 PM Author: mischievous round eye I make less than that as a V50 Of Counsel. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2...id#41933507) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:37 PM Author: obsidian whorehouse roommate holy shit
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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:15 PM Author: fragrant stead or at least give us vault range. that is really low. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2...id#41933783) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:22 PM Author: cerebral forum azn Gotta be flame. First years make 200k minimum now.
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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM Author: fragrant stead it might not be flame. there is severe salary compression at firms that don't pay lockstep (like mine). I think when i made partner biglaw was at 180 or 190 for first years. i was making 260 when i was put up. my firm always matches the market salary for first years but does nothing for anyone year 2 and beyond. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2...id#41933852) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:27 PM Author: cerebral forum azn That’s a good point, I woulda thought most v50s pay cravath scale but it’s been a while since I’ve seen the list (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2...id#41933882) |
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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:02 PM Author: fragrant stead i think most v50s do, but there are some outliers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2...id#41949761) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM Author: histrionic main people They systematically overpay top performers though. If you're a 6th year doing 2400+ hours and unhappy with your pay and you're good, you could walk across the street to any other firm that does lockstep. But now you make the same as their worst sixth year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2...id#41933851) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:39 PM Author: at-the-ready yarmulke meetinghouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2...id#41933950) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:10 PM Author: mischievous round eye No they don't. No associate at Jones Day makes more than an associate of the same year at a lockstep firm. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2...id#41935758) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:57 PM Author: histrionic main people Then explain why a high performer would stay knowing they can go to another firm tomorrow and get more money? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2...id#41935989) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:00 PM Author: purple kitty Better partnership odds (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2...id#41935999) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:04 PM Author: histrionic main people That's a fair point, it seems like they have larger partner classes, but it's a longer track too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2...id#41936016) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:10 PM Author: purple kitty Not longer than most V20s, which are 10 years plus, except for places where no one makes partner (Cravath, S&C, etc.). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2...id#41936043) |
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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:12 PM Author: confused primrose death wish how hard to lateral from NYC/Chicago v50 to Jones Day Cleveland? the Shaker Heights trolling has got me curious (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2...id#41949811) |
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Date: June 29th, 2021 8:18 AM Author: fragrant stead (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2...id#42703414) |
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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM Author: self-absorbed rigor boltzmann that's why they're as high as they are. feature, not a bug. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2...id#43231452) |
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