CA Supreme Court takes 21 Years to litigate & decide DP case
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Date: July 7th, 2025 10:40 PM
Author: .,:,;,..,;.,::,..,:,.,.:..,;.,::,..,:,.,.:
Guyz, check out the docket on this.
CSC case is docketed in 2004. counsel appointed in 2008.
in april 2013, after 21 extension requests, defense counsel files a brief that's "150,082 words; 532 pp"
in oct 2013, the AG files a brief that's "89,205 words; 306 pp."
in dec 2015, after 6 extension requests, defense counsel files a reply brief that's "49,584 words; 193 pp"
in july 2024, defense counsel files a supplemental brief that's "15, 642 words; 61 pp"
in feb 2025, the AG files a response to the supp brief that's "11, 365 words; 46 pp."
in march 2025, defense files a supp reply brief that's "15,490 words; 62 pp."
in march 2025, OA is held.
in june 2025, the court issues a 217 page opinion affirming the death sentence
https://appellatecases.courtinfo.ca.gov/search/case/dockets.cfm?dist=0&doc_id=1855810&doc_no=S124131&request_token=NiIwLSEnTkw4WzBRSCFdVE1JQFQ0UDxfISNeQzlTICAgCg%3D%3D
note the defendant is already serving life, and picked up a death penalty murder for killing a cell mate. no chance the guy actually ever gets the DP. he's already serving life.
and now this is just the start of the DP litigation. we haven't got to habeas stuff. this is just his direct state appeal. there will be decades more of this bullshit.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5747394&forum_id=2...id#49081067) |
Date: July 8th, 2025 10:25 AM
Author: .,:,;,..,;.,::,..,:,.,.:..,;.,::,..,:,.,.:
Hoping someone finds this interesting, as this used to be a law boart.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5747394&forum_id=2...id#49082143) |
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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:31 AM Author: RFK Jr.
Pumo, this is RFK, Jr. the United States Secretary for Health and Human Services. The HHS Department is monitoring this case, and poast, with great interest.
As my uncle, President John F. Kennedy, said, we need people like you to bring important happenings like this to the publics attnetion. And this bort, and your poast, embodies that.
God bless you, God bless this bort, and God bless these United States.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5747394&forum_id=2...id#49082164) |
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Date: July 8th, 2025 1:55 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5747394&forum_id=2...id#49082793) |
Date: July 8th, 2025 10:29 AM
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every participant in that litigation wants endless delay and they all got what they wanted.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5747394&forum_id=2...id#49082150) |
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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:31 AM
Author: .,:,;,..,;.,::,..,:,.,.:..,;.,::,..,:,.,.:
The AG and judges get paid either way. I'm sure the AG would rather not have to write a 200 page brief and I'm sure some poor judicial clerk would rather not have to write a 215 page opinion, and both would rather be working on other crap.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5747394&forum_id=2...id#49082160) |
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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:34 AM
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all true.
imagine having to read some massive transcripts and write a 200 page motion dealing with the DP in a state that has officially suspended the DP. you'd just stare at the binders briefly each morning and then turn to some project that matters.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5747394&forum_id=2...id#49082177) |
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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:53 AM
Author: .,:,;,..,;.,::,..,:,.,.:..,;.,::,..,:,.,.:
Yep, the AG and judicial clerks must want to blow their brains out. Some judicial clerk probably had to spend months just on this.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5747394&forum_id=2...id#49082243) |
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Date: July 8th, 2025 11:00 AM
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many courts have special clerks who do nothing but DP. it's not just second class work, it's bottom of the barrel.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5747394&forum_id=2...id#49082263) |
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Date: July 8th, 2025 12:11 PM
Author: .,:,;,..,;.,::,..,:,.,.:..,;.,::,..,:,.,.:
Yikes, that's awful.
The funny thing is that a state DP appeal isn't even about death penalty issue. It's just about raising every possible borderline-frivolous garbage trial issue anyone can think of. If you read that 215 page opinion, it's just a bunch of general nonsense about jury instructional issues, evidentiary issues, etc. Much of it is not even about the death phase.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5747394&forum_id=2...id#49082470) |
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