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PSA: Jones Day is ranked 15 by Vault and doesn't pay lockstep

Senior associates making $260k. This is a SHIT profession.
Light aromatic half-breed immigrant
  06/15/18
“I like working for a firm that has its finances in order!”
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As I understand it.
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they have no debt as I understand it
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Something tells me they have no problems hiring. The legal ...
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How did this shit analysis not get called out in 2018? V25 ...
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It's probably a decent firm if you want to increase your cha...
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  06/15/18
they de-equitize all the time. so yea, if you want to live ...
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omg 260k where do they get off
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For the record I’m at a much lower ranked firm that doesn’t ...
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p depressing news going into the weekend
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I make less than that as a V50 Of Counsel.
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  02/12/21
holy shit out the firm
Passionate gunner
  02/12/21
or at least give us vault range. that is really low.
Light aromatic half-breed immigrant
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Gotta be flame. First years make 200k minimum now.
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it might not be flame. there is severe salary compression a...
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That’s a good point, I woulda thought most v50s pay cr...
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i think most v50s do, but there are some outliers.
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:24 PM
Author: Light aromatic half-breed immigrant

Senior associates making $260k. This is a SHIT profession.

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:27 PM
Author: Hilarious corner idea he suggested

“I like working for a firm that has its finances in order!”

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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:33 PM
Author: Cracking Maniacal Pistol

As I understand it.

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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:37 PM
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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:55 AM
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: Underhanded range

they're a rust belt firm filled with miserable strivers. the high ranking is from their NY and DC specialty practices, which didn't arrive until the 80s. they lost their entire DC office when it broke off to form crowell & moring

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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:10 PM
Author: Bateful Ape Den

oh we got a legal expert here

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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:41 AM
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Date: August 12th, 2025 12:15 PM
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: Drunken station

they have no debt as I understand it

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:48 PM
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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:42 PM
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:33 PM
Author: Drunken station

260k is a huge salary

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: Transparent philosopher-king market

goes a long way in shaker heights

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:41 PM
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:49 PM
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Cr. Thats city janitor money

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: bipolar shimmering corn cake

Something tells me they have no problems hiring. The legal profession will always have a massive oversupply problem unless major changes are made.

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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:14 PM
Author: Startling Bespoke Location Candlestick Maker

How did this shit analysis not get called out in 2018? V25 firms are all competing over the same band of graduates and to a lesser extent laterals. There's an oversupply of lawyers in the country but there isn't an oversupply of Class of 2017 Stanford Law graduates willing to do debt financing.

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:35 PM
Author: Hairraiser orchid step-uncle's house pisswyrm

It's probably a decent firm if you want to increase your chances of making a career of it v. maximizing your earnings. That's always been my impression, although maybe incorrect.

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: Underhanded range

they de-equitize all the time. so yea, if you want to live in the midwest making six figures as basically a career of counsel, it might work.

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: Drunken station

sounds 180

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:42 PM
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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:56 PM
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:38 PM
Author: Cerise lay preventive strike

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:49 PM
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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:38 PM
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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:42 PM
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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: geriatric blue lodge turdskin

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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:59 PM
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Date: June 15th, 2018 10:46 PM
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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:06 PM
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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:12 PM
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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM
Author: Light aromatic half-breed immigrant

is this that coked up "written work, the way 9.3 interacts with 7.2" guy?

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Date: January 18th, 2025 10:31 PM
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Date: August 12th, 2025 12:32 PM
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:50 PM
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omg 260k where do they get off

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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:24 PM
Author: Light aromatic half-breed immigrant

For the record I’m at a much lower ranked firm that doesn’t pay lockstep and was making 260k when I made partner.

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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:28 PM
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p depressing news going into the weekend

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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:15 PM
Author: Light aromatic half-breed immigrant

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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: canary electric dingle berry crackhouse

your unraveling before our eyes has become the dumpster fire du jour

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Date: June 15th, 2018 10:35 PM
Author: Light aromatic half-breed immigrant

Explain

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Date: June 16th, 2018 2:30 PM
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Date: September 4th, 2018 2:24 PM
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Date: June 16th, 2018 12:01 AM
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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:28 PM
Author: Narrow-minded coiffed jewess place of business

yeah, but with "Jones Day" on your resume, you put in some time and then afterwards you basically write your own ticket

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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:46 PM
Author: Khaki box office genital piercing

To be fair,

*Jones Days, Nights, and Weekends

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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:22 PM
Author: Light aromatic half-breed immigrant



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:21 PM
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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:06 PM
Author: geriatric blue lodge turdskin



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Date: October 14th, 2021 1:53 PM
Author: Light aromatic half-breed immigrant



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:36 PM
Author: autistic ungodly national security agency

I make less than that as a V50 Of Counsel.

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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:37 PM
Author: Passionate gunner

holy shit

out the firm

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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:15 PM
Author: Light aromatic half-breed immigrant

or at least give us vault range. that is really low.

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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:22 PM
Author: Indigo hunting ground

Gotta be flame. First years make 200k minimum now.



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM
Author: Light aromatic half-breed immigrant

it might not be flame. there is severe salary compression at firms that don't pay lockstep (like mine). I think when i made partner biglaw was at 180 or 190 for first years. i was making 260 when i was put up. my firm always matches the market salary for first years but does nothing for anyone year 2 and beyond.

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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:27 PM
Author: Indigo hunting ground

That’s a good point, I woulda thought most v50s pay cravath scale but it’s been a while since I’ve seen the list

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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:02 PM
Author: Light aromatic half-breed immigrant

i think most v50s do, but there are some outliers.

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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM
Author: flushed spectacular theater stage

They systematically overpay top performers though. If you're a 6th year doing 2400+ hours and unhappy with your pay and you're good, you could walk across the street to any other firm that does lockstep. But now you make the same as their worst sixth year.

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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:39 PM
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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:10 PM
Author: autistic ungodly national security agency

No they don't. No associate at Jones Day makes more than an associate of the same year at a lockstep firm.

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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:57 PM
Author: flushed spectacular theater stage

Then explain why a high performer would stay knowing they can go to another firm tomorrow and get more money?

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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:00 PM
Author: adventurous spot skinny woman

Better partnership odds

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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:04 PM
Author: flushed spectacular theater stage

That's a fair point, it seems like they have larger partner classes, but it's a longer track too.

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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:10 PM
Author: adventurous spot skinny woman

Not longer than most V20s, which are 10 years plus, except for places where no one makes partner (Cravath, S&C, etc.).

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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:15 PM
Author: Passionate gunner

(Stevie Brogan)

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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:22 PM
Author: soul-stirring locale

lol no

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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:12 PM
Author: Kink-friendly white house

how hard to lateral from NYC/Chicago v50 to Jones Day Cleveland? the Shaker Heights trolling has got me curious

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Date: June 29th, 2021 8:18 AM
Author: Light aromatic half-breed immigrant



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:07 PM
Author: Light aromatic half-breed immigrant



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:15 PM
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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM
Author: copper zombie-like voyeur whorehouse

that's why they're as high as they are. feature, not a bug.

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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:43 AM
Author: Light aromatic half-breed immigrant



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