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Elon Musk's proposed Boring Company tunnel is literally parallel to Blue Line

http://graphics.chicagotribune.com/elon-musk-tunnel-loop-pha...
infuriating cruise ship
  01/09/19
lol wtf? there's a huge transit black hole between the no...
lake unholy parlour
  01/09/19
and I believe this is designed to transport cars. Seems like...
infuriating cruise ship
  01/09/19
Initially, at least, this is just for high speed transit bet...
angry cuck market
  01/09/19
it doesn't really take that long to get from ORD to the Loop...
infuriating cruise ship
  01/09/19
yeah, i was pretty surprised honestly. wouldn't be where i'd...
Aqua tanning salon police squad
  01/09/19
it seems like the $5B or however much this ends up costing c...
infuriating cruise ship
  01/09/19
apparently the city won't be paying for it, but i don't know...
Aqua tanning salon police squad
  01/10/19
It takes 42 minutes on the blue line best case scenario vs. ...
beady-eyed personal credit line hospital
  01/10/19
Except this train is going to one station downtown and your ...
zombie-like arousing trailer park wrinkle
  01/10/19
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infuriating cruise ship
  01/10/19
Yes, but still faster to Uber from teh downtown station, tha...
beady-eyed personal credit line hospital
  01/10/19
Also this will be expensive as fuark to actually use.
galvanic seedy gunner
  01/14/19
it's for moving people between downtown and the airport.
Aqua tanning salon police squad
  01/09/19
correct me if I'm wrong, but the Blue Line currently serves ...
infuriating cruise ship
  01/09/19
Correct, the blue line does it in about 40 minutes, this sho...
angry cuck market
  01/09/19
It would only make sense to do this with Uber/driverless car...
galvanic seedy gunner
  01/14/19
How can he possibly get insurance for this shit? If it goes...
low-t public bath
  01/09/19
just lol at how much of a fucking fraud this thing is: &q...
infuriating cruise ship
  01/09/19
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deep ratface space
  01/09/19
it's almost as if construction is generally run by entrenche...
Comical Meetinghouse Ape
  01/09/19
yeah i'm sure that's it or Elon could just be the biggest fr...
infuriating cruise ship
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  01/10/19
This is an idiotic take. The issue with construction is it i...
Bistre Indecent Chad Nowag
  01/10/19
The costs aren’t the part that bothers me. It’s...
low-t public bath
  01/09/19
WILL SOMEONE CONSIDER THE INDEMNIFICATION CLAUSE?
infuriating cruise ship
  01/09/19
Musk will be sharing a jail cell with Shkreli before the end...
deep ratface space
  01/09/19
(pedo guy)
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  01/09/19
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passionate coral point blood rage
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free-loading chestnut alpha therapy
  01/09/19
Chicago for some reason has been obsessed with an express tr...
zombie-like arousing trailer park wrinkle
  01/09/19
I don't understand it but it's been proposed off and on for ...
Scarlet corner
  01/10/19
Musk is 180 and that fact that he got something - ANYTHING -...
laughsome mahogany locus athletic conference
  01/10/19
No he's not. He took a used sewage tunnel boring machine an...
deep ratface space
  01/10/19
That's the whole point. Simply use smaller tunnels that can ...
beady-eyed personal credit line hospital
  01/10/19
All that to shave 30 minutes off the commute time to O'Hare.
galvanic seedy gunner
  01/10/19
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infuriating cruise ship
  01/10/19
oh what a grand thinker!
carmine cuckold native
  01/10/19
The Blue Line is running at maximum capacity (trains/hour) d...
zombie-like arousing trailer park wrinkle
  01/10/19
Musk is footing the bill himself. Takes no funding from teh ...
beady-eyed personal credit line hospital
  01/10/19
The number of airportmos on the blue line train take up one ...
zombie-like arousing trailer park wrinkle
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infuriating cruise ship
  01/14/19
30 minutes is a lot. 80,000 take the blue line from ORD now....
beady-eyed personal credit line hospital
  01/10/19
Ridership was 11,000/day in 2017. And a not trivial amount ...
zombie-like arousing trailer park wrinkle
  01/10/19
Why don't employees count? Anyway, this is where I saw th...
beady-eyed personal credit line hospital
  01/10/19
How many CTA employees are hopping on the blue line from the...
infuriating cruise ship
  01/10/19
CR. Shit, how many ORD employees even live on the North asid...
Scarlet corner
  01/10/19
I guess they could change over from Red if they live on the ...
infuriating cruise ship
  01/10/19
I don't know what the actual stats are (just going by the ar...
beady-eyed personal credit line hospital
  01/10/19
yeah man Musk is just being super altruistic
infuriating cruise ship
  01/10/19
*autistic
Scarlet corner
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infuriating cruise ship
  01/10/19
No, he thinks he might make a profit. If you think it's a lo...
beady-eyed personal credit line hospital
  01/10/19
He's "fixing" Chicago's least important traffic is...
galvanic seedy gunner
  01/14/19
It's gonna cost $70 to ride this thing
galvanic seedy gunner
  01/14/19
Someone needs to run a train line that connects the Western ...
galvanic seedy gunner
  01/14/19
someone needs to run a train on Musk's boihole in prison
infuriating cruise ship
  01/14/19
You mean like this: https://metrarail.com/maps-schedules/...
zombie-like arousing trailer park wrinkle
  01/14/19
No, I mean something that runs northeast from the Eisenhower...
galvanic seedy gunner
  01/17/19
They have trains. I don't want it any easier for Byrwynmos t...
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Date: January 9th, 2019 4:19 PM
Author: infuriating cruise ship

http://graphics.chicagotribune.com/elon-musk-tunnel-loop-phare/img/map.png

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2...id#37560911)



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Date: January 9th, 2019 4:25 PM
Author: lake unholy parlour

lol wtf?

there's a huge transit black hole between the north side (lincoln park, lakeview, uptown) and the nice parts of the northwest side (bucktown, logan square, irving park). I have no idea why he wouldn't build something there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2...id#37560950)



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Date: January 9th, 2019 4:29 PM
Author: infuriating cruise ship

and I believe this is designed to transport cars. Seems like injecting even more cars into downtown is the last thing they need.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2...id#37560976)



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Date: January 9th, 2019 4:43 PM
Author: angry cuck market

Initially, at least, this is just for high speed transit between the Loop and ORD.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2...id#37561089)



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Date: January 9th, 2019 4:46 PM
Author: infuriating cruise ship

it doesn't really take that long to get from ORD to the Loop on the blue line now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2...id#37561100)



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Date: January 9th, 2019 4:48 PM
Author: Aqua tanning salon police squad

yeah, i was pretty surprised honestly. wouldn't be where i'd expect this kind of thing to be used.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2...id#37561121)



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Date: January 9th, 2019 4:49 PM
Author: infuriating cruise ship

it seems like the $5B or however much this ends up costing could probably be put to better use in Chicago, but IDK

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2...id#37561127)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 12:10 PM
Author: Aqua tanning salon police squad

apparently the city won't be paying for it, but i don't know how true that will be.

hopefully the drilling will open a sink hole and the entire city will collapse into it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2...id#37565783)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 11:35 AM
Author: beady-eyed personal credit line hospital

It takes 42 minutes on the blue line best case scenario vs. estimated 12 minutes using the new tunnel. Huge difference in QOL. You would never have to think about whether to Uber vs. train. Basically as good as a downtown airport.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2...id#37565532)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 11:45 AM
Author: zombie-like arousing trailer park wrinkle

Except this train is going to one station downtown and your hotel may be far from it and only a certain number of trains will go per hour.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2...id#37565607)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 11:47 AM
Author: infuriating cruise ship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2...id#37565618)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 11:47 AM
Author: beady-eyed personal credit line hospital

Yes, but still faster to Uber from teh downtown station, than catch an Uber at ORD unless you're coming in at like midnight.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2...id#37565621)



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Date: January 14th, 2019 2:51 PM
Author: galvanic seedy gunner

Also this will be expensive as fuark to actually use.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2...id#37590454)



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Date: January 9th, 2019 4:47 PM
Author: Aqua tanning salon police squad

it's for moving people between downtown and the airport.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2...id#37561110)



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Date: January 9th, 2019 4:52 PM
Author: infuriating cruise ship

correct me if I'm wrong, but the Blue Line currently serves that same function

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2...id#37561143)



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Date: January 9th, 2019 5:03 PM
Author: angry cuck market

Correct, the blue line does it in about 40 minutes, this should be substantially less.

Musk is supposed to be bankrolling the whole thing himself as a test case for his tunneling tech.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2...id#37561220)



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Date: January 14th, 2019 2:56 PM
Author: galvanic seedy gunner

It would only make sense to do this with Uber/driverless cars, at which point you may as well just have a train. WTF good does a car do you at the airport?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2...id#37590486)



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Date: January 9th, 2019 4:27 PM
Author: low-t public bath

How can he possibly get insurance for this shit? If it goes wrong the claims are billions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2...id#37560958)



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Date: January 9th, 2019 4:33 PM
Author: infuriating cruise ship

just lol at how much of a fucking fraud this thing is:

"The project has some detractors who don’t see it as feasible. The Boring Company says that it can do it for about $1 billion, which is a fraction of what a 17-mile tunnel would generally cost."



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2...id#37561010)



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Date: January 9th, 2019 4:39 PM
Author: deep ratface space



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2...id#37561055)



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Date: January 9th, 2019 4:44 PM
Author: Comical Meetinghouse Ape

it's almost as if construction is generally run by entrenched frauds and dumbasses and a smart 180 dude comes along and is like "wow i can do it for WAY less $$$$"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2...id#37561091)



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Date: January 9th, 2019 4:46 PM
Author: infuriating cruise ship

yeah i'm sure that's it or Elon could just be the biggest fraud and dumbass in the entire world

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2...id#37561105)



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Date: January 9th, 2019 4:50 PM
Author: carmine cuckold native



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2...id#37561130)



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Date: January 9th, 2019 4:59 PM
Author: free-loading chestnut alpha therapy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2...id#37561187)



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Date: January 9th, 2019 5:51 PM
Author: curious stead striped hyena



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2...id#37561569)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 12:47 PM
Author: buck-toothed pozpig lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2...id#37566047)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 1:36 PM
Author: Bistre Indecent Chad Nowag

This is an idiotic take. The issue with construction is it is a risky, low-margin business so there is no money for R&D. And it is really political and legal issues (obtaining ROW, fighting interest group lawsuits, and greasing the wheel politically) holding things up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2...id#37566501)



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Date: January 9th, 2019 4:50 PM
Author: low-t public bath

The costs aren’t the part that bothers me. It’s the potential liability.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2...id#37561133)



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Date: January 9th, 2019 4:52 PM
Author: infuriating cruise ship

WILL SOMEONE CONSIDER THE INDEMNIFICATION CLAUSE?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2...id#37561140)



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Date: January 9th, 2019 4:39 PM
Author: deep ratface space

Musk will be sharing a jail cell with Shkreli before the end of the Trump presidency

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2...id#37561060)



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Date: January 9th, 2019 4:58 PM
Author: fuchsia talented school cafeteria shitlib

(pedo guy)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2...id#37561172)



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Date: January 9th, 2019 5:04 PM
Author: passionate coral point blood rage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2...id#37561231)



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Date: January 9th, 2019 4:59 PM
Author: free-loading chestnut alpha therapy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2...id#37561189)



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Date: January 9th, 2019 5:09 PM
Author: zombie-like arousing trailer park wrinkle

Chicago for some reason has been obsessed with an express train to/from O'Hare. They lately tried to trick private investors to build it and let them keep the proceeds. It will never, ever make a profit. The train ridership from O'hare to downtown is a lot lower than you'd think.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2...id#37561261)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 12:17 PM
Author: Scarlet corner

I don't understand it but it's been proposed off and on for years

Fucccck ORD cabs though. Anything that fucks with them is cool by me

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2...id#37565828)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 11:00 AM
Author: laughsome mahogany locus athletic conference

Musk is 180 and that fact that he got something - ANYTHING - built in CA is a testament to his willpower and genius.

This probably has more to do with the crooked city council than anything else.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2...id#37565259)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 11:29 AM
Author: deep ratface space

No he's not. He took a used sewage tunnel boring machine and bored a tunnel at the cost and in the time that sewage tunnels are bored, then drove a Tesla through it and pretended it was some kind of act of breakthrough genius

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2...id#37565484)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 11:39 AM
Author: beady-eyed personal credit line hospital

That's the whole point. Simply use smaller tunnels that can be dug 10x faster and potentially 100x cheaper. And then spend some of the savings on the car transport platforms that are automated so they can run 2x-3x the normal flow of traffic.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2...id#37565561)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 11:42 AM
Author: galvanic seedy gunner

All that to shave 30 minutes off the commute time to O'Hare.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2...id#37565582)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 11:44 AM
Author: infuriating cruise ship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2...id#37565592)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 11:48 AM
Author: carmine cuckold native

oh what a grand thinker!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2...id#37565631)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 11:51 AM
Author: zombie-like arousing trailer park wrinkle

The Blue Line is running at maximum capacity (trains/hour) during rush hour and the train cars are packed like boxes of sardines. And they are still building new condos along it.

It desperately needs a system upgrade but nope, gotta have some dat airport express!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2...id#37565663)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 11:56 AM
Author: beady-eyed personal credit line hospital

Musk is footing the bill himself. Takes no funding from teh blue line. And this would reduce blue line ridership.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2...id#37565708)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 12:08 PM
Author: zombie-like arousing trailer park wrinkle

The number of airportmos on the blue line train take up one car, max. And not all of these people care about paying premium to get to D/T quickly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2...id#37565777)



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Date: January 14th, 2019 2:50 PM
Author: infuriating cruise ship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2...id#37590447)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 11:54 AM
Author: beady-eyed personal credit line hospital

30 minutes is a lot. 80,000 take the blue line from ORD now. Probably at least 2-3x that if you include the taxis and Uber. 200,000 people per day = 100,000 man-hours * $20/hr = $2M per day saved.

Plus you reduce a lot of Uber traffic on I90.

Anyway, the point is it's all private funding, so why the hell not. If Elon can't turn a profit, who cares. Not sure why anyone would oppose it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2...id#37565692)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 12:28 PM
Author: zombie-like arousing trailer park wrinkle

Ridership was 11,000/day in 2017. And a not trivial amount of that is O'hare employees.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2...id#37565906)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 12:35 PM
Author: beady-eyed personal credit line hospital

Why don't employees count?

Anyway, this is where I saw the 80k:

“The Blue Line is seeing unprecedented investment,” said CTA spokesman Brian Steele. The Blue Line is the service’s second busiest line, after the Red Line, and the branch between downtown and O’Hare sees more than 80,000 riders on an average weekday.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/wisniewski/ct-biz-blue-line-improvements-getting-around-20180614-story.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2...id#37565968)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 12:40 PM
Author: infuriating cruise ship

How many CTA employees are hopping on the blue line from the loop?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2...id#37566005)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 12:42 PM
Author: Scarlet corner

CR. Shit, how many ORD employees even live on the North aside, period? They're hopping on at fucking Forest Park.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2...id#37566013)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 12:44 PM
Author: infuriating cruise ship

I guess they could change over from Red if they live on the south side, but still.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2...id#37566026)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 12:50 PM
Author: beady-eyed personal credit line hospital

I don't know what the actual stats are (just going by the article). But the point is this is privately funded. Even if only 1000 people take it, that's still 1000 less in the sardine car or on the freeway.

Musk: trying to fix shitty transport using his own cash

You: Purell

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2...id#37566086)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 12:55 PM
Author: infuriating cruise ship

yeah man Musk is just being super altruistic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2...id#37566133)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 12:57 PM
Author: Scarlet corner

*autistic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2...id#37566148)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 12:57 PM
Author: infuriating cruise ship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2...id#37566152)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 1:23 PM
Author: beady-eyed personal credit line hospital

No, he thinks he might make a profit. If you think it's a losing venture, then don't invest, and feel free to mock him later when it fails. But there is no reason to oppose the plan or talk about lack of funding of the blue line.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2...id#37566384)



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Date: January 14th, 2019 2:53 PM
Author: galvanic seedy gunner

He's "fixing" Chicago's least important traffic issue.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2...id#37590466)



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Date: January 14th, 2019 2:51 PM
Author: galvanic seedy gunner

It's gonna cost $70 to ride this thing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2...id#37590458)



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Date: January 14th, 2019 2:49 PM
Author: galvanic seedy gunner

Someone needs to run a train line that connects the Western suburbs to the north side. Would be running at near capacity with a year

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2...id#37590440)



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Date: January 14th, 2019 2:50 PM
Author: infuriating cruise ship

someone needs to run a train on Musk's boihole in prison

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2...id#37590452)



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Date: January 14th, 2019 4:00 PM
Author: zombie-like arousing trailer park wrinkle

You mean like this:

https://metrarail.com/maps-schedules/system-map

(and rush hour trains run are jam packed)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2...id#37590761)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 10:41 AM
Author: galvanic seedy gunner

No, I mean something that runs northeast from the Eisenhower around Oak Park and runs straight to like Addison and Clark

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2...id#37607581)



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Date: January 14th, 2019 4:03 PM
Author: Scarlet corner

They have trains. I don't want it any easier for Byrwynmos to get to the city.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174041&forum_id=2...id#37590773)



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Date: March 26th, 2019 9:19 AM
Author: infuriating cruise ship

https://www.arstechnica.com/cars/2019/03/local-leaders-cooling-to-boring-company-tunnel-promises

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Date: July 17th, 2025 8:42 PM
Author: underhanded psychic pistol



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