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who is winning the war in Ukraine. I have no idea what's going on

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pink jewess partner
  03/14/23
goddammit geno I swear to god
Charcoal step-uncle's house
  03/14/23
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pink jewess partner
  03/14/23
Raytheon/Lockheed/Northup Grumman
Talking well-lubricated abode
  03/14/23
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Buff Mind-boggling Psychic
  03/14/23
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excitant senate
  03/14/23
Left out Blackrock. Probably a few other major corps too. ...
crawly infuriating skinny woman cruise ship
  03/15/23
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Coiffed passionate ticket booth newt
  03/15/23
cr mid career engineers are making 800k these days
Onyx boistinker
  03/15/23
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Impressive Crimson Gas Station
  03/15/23
I don't think Ukraine is "winning" and I'm not eve...
Purple massive rigpig locus
  03/14/23
Russia hasn’t achieved its territorial objectives, whi...
Autistic school cafeteria chad
  03/14/23
cope
Buff Mind-boggling Psychic
  03/14/23
Cr the purpose of this war is to soften up Ukraine for anoth...
Abnormal native persian
  03/14/23
Putin is just loosening the pickle jar lid for whoever the R...
Purple massive rigpig locus
  03/14/23
Criticize if you want, but this is how wars were fought for ...
Autistic school cafeteria chad
  03/15/23
Link to the french or English fully conquering each other?
cerebral queen of the night becky
  03/15/23
Has it occurred to you that not all nation states fully achi...
Autistic school cafeteria chad
  03/15/23
or just to mess with Ukraine for the lulz.
Buff Mind-boggling Psychic
  03/14/23
I'd agree that no one is winning. It's hard to see at this m...
Buff Mind-boggling Psychic
  03/14/23
lol at completely made up numbers
Charcoal step-uncle's house
  03/14/23
What’s with dumb questions like this we all know who b...
lake gaping meetinghouse
  03/14/23
I'm very dumb
pink jewess partner
  03/14/23
who cares
Slippery shimmering liquid oxygen voyeur
  03/14/23
The US is winning. Ukraine and Russia are both losing, but U...
Wild contagious nursing home private investor
  03/15/23
l'chaim!
Coiffed passionate ticket booth newt
  03/15/23
To be fair, CR fuck it let's just nuke Moscow already and...
aphrodisiac french chef
  03/15/23
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lake gaping meetinghouse
  03/15/23
This has been three different wars. 1. Initial invasion: ...
crawly infuriating skinny woman cruise ship
  03/15/23
Pretty fair. But opposite side. Good write up.
Wild contagious nursing home private investor
  03/15/23
Ty
crawly infuriating skinny woman cruise ship
  03/15/23
Are you Russian/Jewish?
Wild contagious nursing home private investor
  03/15/23
Russia does have a distinct advantage that people underestim...
Purple massive rigpig locus
  03/15/23
Russians understand they generate the most value by dying.
glassy toilet seat
  03/15/23
spot on analysis
pale galvanic church building
  02/24/26
It's a theatre where no matter the outcome those that have m...
Flushed brethren
  03/15/23
Ukraine is getting their shit pushed in at the moment and ce...
Charcoal step-uncle's house
  03/15/23
and yet 3 years later russia doesnt even control donbas
pale galvanic church building
  02/24/26
Nobody.
glassy toilet seat
  03/15/23


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Date: March 14th, 2023 8:51 AM
Author: pink jewess partner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5306313&forum_id=2...id#46049536)



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Date: March 14th, 2023 8:56 AM
Author: Charcoal step-uncle's house

goddammit geno I swear to god

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5306313&forum_id=2...id#46049548)



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Date: March 14th, 2023 8:58 AM
Author: pink jewess partner



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Date: March 14th, 2023 8:55 AM
Author: Talking well-lubricated abode

Raytheon/Lockheed/Northup Grumman

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5306313&forum_id=2...id#46049546)



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Date: March 14th, 2023 9:05 AM
Author: Buff Mind-boggling Psychic



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5306313&forum_id=2...id#46049573)



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Date: March 14th, 2023 9:49 AM
Author: excitant senate



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Date: March 15th, 2023 1:55 AM
Author: crawly infuriating skinny woman cruise ship

Left out Blackrock. Probably a few other major corps too.

UA leadership was handed one of the biggest windfalls of any regime. Corruption is rampant around that area, Russia included.

Also, USA energy. LNG is in high demand from Europe since that pipeline providing cheap gas to Germany was blown up by someone.

China is some extent. They're getting a longer term reliable supply of lower cost gas and oil.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5306313&forum_id=2...id#46053830)



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Date: March 15th, 2023 2:26 AM
Author: Coiffed passionate ticket booth newt



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5306313&forum_id=2...id#46053875)



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Date: March 15th, 2023 3:09 AM
Author: Onyx boistinker

cr mid career engineers are making 800k these days

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5306313&forum_id=2...id#46053910)



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Date: March 15th, 2023 10:02 AM
Author: Impressive Crimson Gas Station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5306313&forum_id=2...id#46054370)



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Date: March 14th, 2023 9:14 AM
Author: Purple massive rigpig locus

I don't think Ukraine is "winning" and I'm not even sure how "winning" is defined here. Russia collapsing? Not gonna happen. Russia occupying all of Ukraine or forcing regime change? Not gonna happen.

But Russia is losing in the sense that the "second most powerful army in the world" was shown to be a Potemkin village.

150,000 killed and wounded Russian soldiers, a sunken flag ship, 1,000+ tanks destroyed, dozens of helicopters and planes shot down, and what do they have to show for it? They've captured maybe 2% of the land they didn't have before the invasion. They're losing around 2,000 soldiers per week killed/wounded to make glacial progress and then that progress gets erased every time Ukraine launched a counteroffensive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5306313&forum_id=2...id#46049593)



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Date: March 14th, 2023 9:21 AM
Author: Autistic school cafeteria chad

Russia hasn’t achieved its territorial objectives, which is losing in the context of an offensive war you start at a time of your choosing with superior numbers and equipment.

However if you reframe the objectives as depopulating Ukraine and leaving a diminished state that is unable to govern its territory or operate a functioning economy, then the war is going pretty well for Russia. One endgame here is to agree a ceasefire when the frontline is in a decent place for Russia, then watch Ukraine flail around trying to operate for a few more decades, then grab more territory either by exporting Russians and rigging elections or invading again at a time when the West is less supportive.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5306313&forum_id=2...id#46049618)



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Date: March 14th, 2023 9:48 AM
Author: Buff Mind-boggling Psychic

cope

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5306313&forum_id=2...id#46049754)



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Date: March 14th, 2023 9:55 AM
Author: Abnormal native persian

Cr the purpose of this war is to soften up Ukraine for another war decades in the future

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5306313&forum_id=2...id#46049777)



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Date: March 14th, 2023 9:57 AM
Author: Purple massive rigpig locus

Putin is just loosening the pickle jar lid for whoever the Russian president is in 2040!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5306313&forum_id=2...id#46049781)



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Date: March 15th, 2023 1:35 AM
Author: Autistic school cafeteria chad

Criticize if you want, but this is how wars were fought for centuries. The French and English didn't think they were about to fully conquer each other in one round. It was chipping away at territory and degrading the population, economy, spirit, and war-fighting capability of your opponents in the hope that you would be able to annex more territory or achieve political or economic dominance at an opportune moment in the future. But sure, warfare is a neat bad guy/good guy narrative that coincides with your short attention span and a handful of facts you remember from WW2 movies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5306313&forum_id=2...id#46053813)



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Date: March 15th, 2023 9:51 AM
Author: cerebral queen of the night becky

Link to the french or English fully conquering each other?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5306313&forum_id=2...id#46054323)



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Date: March 15th, 2023 10:08 AM
Author: Autistic school cafeteria chad

Has it occurred to you that not all nation states fully achieve their objectives?

Still, you might want to look into what became of English territorial claims over area that are now squarely the northern bit of France, to the various French sub-states that allied with England against centralized French control, and to French efforts to build a North American colony. Again, wars don’t all have movie script/WW2 endings of total victory by one side.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5306313&forum_id=2...id#46054391)



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Date: March 14th, 2023 10:23 AM
Author: Buff Mind-boggling Psychic

or just to mess with Ukraine for the lulz.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5306313&forum_id=2...id#46049890)



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Date: March 14th, 2023 9:50 AM
Author: Buff Mind-boggling Psychic

I'd agree that no one is winning. It's hard to see at this moment how the war even comes to an end.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5306313&forum_id=2...id#46049763)



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Date: March 14th, 2023 9:50 AM
Author: Charcoal step-uncle's house

lol at completely made up numbers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5306313&forum_id=2...id#46049765)



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Date: March 14th, 2023 9:22 AM
Author: lake gaping meetinghouse

What’s with dumb questions like this we all know who benefits

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5306313&forum_id=2...id#46049622)



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Date: March 14th, 2023 9:23 AM
Author: pink jewess partner

I'm very dumb

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5306313&forum_id=2...id#46049629)



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Date: March 14th, 2023 9:50 AM
Author: Slippery shimmering liquid oxygen voyeur

who cares

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5306313&forum_id=2...id#46049767)



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Date: March 15th, 2023 1:44 AM
Author: Wild contagious nursing home private investor

The US is winning. Ukraine and Russia are both losing, but Ukraine still has a possible winning condition, Russia does not. I pray every night for the death of all Occupiers. I just wish we'd send F15s/16s and end this next month.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5306313&forum_id=2...id#46053822)



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Date: March 15th, 2023 2:26 AM
Author: Coiffed passionate ticket booth newt

l'chaim!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5306313&forum_id=2...id#46053879)



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Date: March 15th, 2023 3:10 AM
Author: aphrodisiac french chef

To be fair,

CR fuck it let's just nuke Moscow already and get it over with, who would even care?

(Literally, unironically, retarded XO Ukrainecuck 90 IQ faggots)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5306313&forum_id=2...id#46053912)



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Date: March 15th, 2023 9:46 AM
Author: lake gaping meetinghouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5306313&forum_id=2...id#46054312)



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Date: March 15th, 2023 2:11 AM
Author: crawly infuriating skinny woman cruise ship

This has been three different wars.

1. Initial invasion: idiocy, hubris, false intel? Who knows, but Russia brought over a way-too-small force of under 200k troops, the number including all the militia, mercs, etc.

They drove through cities thinking they would be greeted as liberators.

On the other hand, UA failed to mobilize their forces despite being handed plenty of intel that Russia would invade. Russia took a lot of territory, but lost lots of resources.

2. UA mobilizes, huge fights with "decisive" engagements. Following from 1 above, RU was severly outnumbered. They refused to declare war and to mobilize more men. They left their front lines poorly manned. Which sets up for...

Two sides trade blows. UA scored some decisive victories here (Kharkiv, Kherson, Kyiv). Still came at some costs. RU scores victories in Mariupol and Severdonesk.

3. RU strikes back. Consolidates forces.

Finally calls up with partial mobilization. Wagner enters the fight, conscripts from prisons.

Front stabilizes with attrition warfare.

RU inches their way forward across the front, ever so slowly capturing towns in the Bakhmut area of operation. Bakhmut itself is currently under seige.

UA has a much hyped upcoming spring/summer offensive, expect them to try to punch through to the south, especially the city of Melitopol.

RU will be ready.

If no negotiated settlement occurs, and absent a collapse of outside funding for UA, expect this war to drag on for years.

I'm biased, and based on the current slow creep into UA territory, I expect RU to win all or essentually all of the 4 oblasts in a few years. Some area changing hands back and forth is still to be expected though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5306313&forum_id=2...id#46053847)



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Date: March 15th, 2023 2:59 AM
Author: Wild contagious nursing home private investor

Pretty fair. But opposite side. Good write up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5306313&forum_id=2...id#46053903)



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Date: March 15th, 2023 3:19 AM
Author: crawly infuriating skinny woman cruise ship

Ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5306313&forum_id=2...id#46053916)



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Date: March 15th, 2023 3:01 AM
Author: Wild contagious nursing home private investor

Are you Russian/Jewish?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5306313&forum_id=2...id#46053905)



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Date: March 15th, 2023 6:55 AM
Author: Purple massive rigpig locus

Russia does have a distinct advantage that people underestimate: they have a tradition of throwing endless lives away to win by attrition (they lost 1m men at Stalingrad alone) and their low IQ, uncritical populace just willingly goes with it.

You'd think this would be different in the age of the internet and the free flow of information, but it doesn't seem to be. I think Russia could easily spend four years in a completely pointless war with no real casus belli, have 500,000 soldiers crippled or killed, and 90% of Russians wouldn't care.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5306313&forum_id=2...id#46054071)



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Date: March 15th, 2023 9:54 AM
Author: glassy toilet seat

Russians understand they generate the most value by dying.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5306313&forum_id=2...id#46054341)



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Date: February 24th, 2026 9:46 AM
Author: pale galvanic church building

spot on analysis

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5306313&forum_id=2...id#49691307)



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Date: March 15th, 2023 3:07 AM
Author: Flushed brethren

It's a theatre where no matter the outcome those that have money in it will win and those that don't will end up footing the bill for the plundering of public coffers by usually old, fat, obese, wealthy government bureaucrats. Nothing new.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5306313&forum_id=2...id#46053909)



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Date: March 15th, 2023 9:48 AM
Author: Charcoal step-uncle's house

Ukraine is getting their shit pushed in at the moment and ceding ground all along the front

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5306313&forum_id=2...id#46054317)



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Date: February 24th, 2026 9:47 AM
Author: pale galvanic church building

and yet 3 years later russia doesnt even control donbas

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5306313&forum_id=2...id#49691309)



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Date: March 15th, 2023 9:52 AM
Author: glassy toilet seat

Nobody.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5306313&forum_id=2...id#46054332)