Other comedians are complete freaks though. Really sad stuff like people trying to "make it" in their late forties.

Seems you like you need to be good at crowd work to wake up the crowd a little at one of these things. The one guy who did that was finally able to get laughs after 5-6 comedians got literally no laughs at all.

Not sure when I'll go back or when I'll go back at all, but I had a good time. If I do go back, I'm going to try and work on crowd work lines because LJL that stunk.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5686393&forum_id=2...id#48698360)

I used to love going, because all the half-thought-out jokes and bits were 100x better than polished routines. Its a 180 experience to see amateurs just giving weird perspectives on things.

i wish there were a youtube channel or something for nobodies to do 3 minutes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5686393&forum_id=2...id#48698378)

CR. I would just watch open mic streams for fun if there were any.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5686393&forum_id=2...id#48698394)

i remember some puerto rican dude, think he had a stage name like EL TERRIBLE or something. used to do nothing but child abduction, child molestation, child murder stuff, very deadpan.

shrews and libs would boo and scream at him.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5686393&forum_id=2...id#48698405)

explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5686393&forum_id=2...id#48698828)

im sure seeing a celeb HBO comic do his act for the 90th time on tour could be cool. He's been tested and has proven entertainment ability.

But seeing some complete weirdo give a strange "take" for 3 or 5 minutes - a succession of weirdos actually -- in a small room with a lot of audience interaction is super fun.

Its a lot like IRL posting on xo. Pro comedy is like a newspaper editorial

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5686393&forum_id=2...id#48699434)

The open mic scene is a bunch of people that do jokes to no laughs for years in the hope that *maybe* a club promoter or network exec will see them and want to hire them for something. In my understanding, you have to love open mics and have no expectations for any of it to not kill yourself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5686393&forum_id=2...id#48698434)

I have a hard time understanding the whole scene. I personally fucking hate karaoke because I can't stand listening to people sing poorly. I would never intentionally subject myself to subpar performances unless it was a children's theater or something.

Why people turn out to sit in the audience and not laugh is beyond me. I understand the person on stage. They may be delusional and retarded, but if you're gonna do it, it's gonna have to be up on stage.

Comedy is a weird thing. It's having a resurgence right now, but nobody is fucking funny. And the people who are into it and attend all think they're also funny, and it couldn't be farther from the truth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5686393&forum_id=2...id#48698513)

It's funny. All you really need to get famous in stand up is to have a tik tok account that posts your best bits. It tricks people into thinking you're consistently funny. Rogan's friends are all awful at comedy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5686393&forum_id=2...id#48698526)

it's one of those careers where the most important thing is likely networking rather than raw skill. you need to stay after shows and hobnob with other comedians so someone will take you on as their opener.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5686393&forum_id=2...id#48698539)

before screens people would go to comedy clubs as a night out thing without knowing who was performing. people don't do that anymore, they go to see headliners. it's a shame. i love live performances of all kinds and would love to hang out at a comedy club for some drinks. that experience really only exists in MFH, LA, and (now) Austin. and even those places people are going to see headliners way more.

all the biggest new comedians got their start with a podcast or social media. when is the last time there's been a chappelle, seinfeld, etc. that got their start from their stand-up? you gotta either be matt rife or shane gillis. cultivate a following a then do comedy, you can't cultivate a following just doing comedy clubs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5686393&forum_id=2...id#48698570)

stand up requires people to actually sit there and pay attention to you. it's more like breaking into being a fiction writer. not only do you have to be good, you have to convince people to read/listen to your shit. and 99% of amateur's stuff is terrible, so even finding people willing to consider a new writer or comedian is difficult. that's exactly why MASE's open mic was full of comedians.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5686393&forum_id=2...id#48698875)

the comedy industry is less than a $1b and that's after an explosion in popularity

https://www.axios.com/2024/05/10/comedy-industry-boom-growth-revenue-netflix

how many concerts occur in a city a year? how many comedy shows? how many music venues does an average city have? how many comedy venues? how often does a stadium host a comedian? how often do they host a musicians?

this is just objectively wrong. you just have it in your head that "music is dead" because your favorite music is unpopular these days.

sabrina carpenter and shane gillis are probably the two biggest recent break out artists in music and comedy. who do you think sells more tickets?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5686393&forum_id=2...id#48698912)

that's exactly my point dude. they don't exist. even biggest comedians aren't nipping the heels of musicians.

way, way, way more music is consumed than comedy. and there's an appetite for more artists too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5686393&forum_id=2...id#48698929)

people consume a shit ton of music. the fact you don't like popular music or why it's popular doesn't change the fact that it is popular.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5686393&forum_id=2...id#48699074)

Happy Madison gets a bad rap

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5686393&forum_id=2...id#48698538)

from what i've heard most open mic shows are filled with aspiring comedians who won't laugh/pay attention and guests of open micers who are only there for them. if people like shane gillis struggle to get a laugh at an open mic after years it seems very unlikely an amateur would, even if you had the potential to be the greatest comedian ever.

although sometimes i do think about greg giraldo giving up THE LAW to be a comedian before drugging himself to death. that sounds 180.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5686393&forum_id=2...id#48698517)

I also have tickets to:

Rob Schneider

Louis CK

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5686393&forum_id=2...id#48698477)

1.) The naturally funny kind you're talking about that doesn't have to work that hard on their material. They just "have" "it".

2.) The striver workaholic type that isn't very funny, but just slaves over making the tightest set they can possibly make. I think Louie is one of those people, he is just not funny in interviews or outside of his standup. But he's one of the GOATUS POTUS anyway.

The best comics are a marriage of the two, but these open mic guys don't have either.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5686393&forum_id=2...id#48698784)

I do have take back my CK comment though, because I just remembered his legendary O&A bits

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRDXeinEUJQ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5686393&forum_id=2...id#48698820)

ever watch the semi-autobiographical show louie?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bFhYvADjl4

i've listened to louie talk about the comedy industry countless times and everything i'm saying is drawing upon that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5686393&forum_id=2...id#48698956)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeZz1JW3RPc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5686393&forum_id=2...id#48698846)

this just isn't true. some of the best comedians languished for decades. i've heard so many comedians talk about how the funniest comedians they knew never caught a break.

i see that you're saying it "isn't easy" and "requires networking", but that's incompatible with "if you have it you rise straight to the top." and also incompatible with everything i've heard from actual comedians. i haven't heard a single professional comedian say what you're saying. i have no direct experience obviously, i'm just relaying what literally every comedian that has talked about breaking into stand-up has said about it.

99% of comedy podcasts is comedians shooting the shit which includes of a lot of talk about the comedy business. find me a clip of a comedian who supports your POV. what are you basing your opinions on?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5686393&forum_id=2...id#48698899)

also, even if that is the argument, it's simply not true. i've heard countless comedians talk about talented people that never made it. i haven't heard a single one say "well if you're talented success is inevitable with hard work." it's not.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5686393&forum_id=2...id#48698942)

Then they have a 2 minute each "lightning" round open mic, where literally anyone can get up there. Often its the quasi pros getting up there to try material and then amateurs doing their first try

Its really awesome. Hit or miss but when it hits it is really good.

Its often not funny among the amateurs but no one really cares.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5686393&forum_id=2...id#48698859)

youre going to make it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5686393&forum_id=2...id#48699317)