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rating poasters as bizarre classical music from the 20th/21st centuries

mostly solo piano.
Razzle death wish
  01/17/26
requesting Chopin pls
Fuchsia candlestick maker
  01/17/26
Chopin is from the 19th century, so we'll have to resort to ...
Razzle death wish
  01/17/26
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Avocado Bat-shit-crazy Round Eye Station
  01/17/26
The second nocturne from Sciarrino's Due Notturni Crudeli --...
Razzle death wish
  01/17/26
wild, ty!
Avocado Bat-shit-crazy Round Eye Station
  01/17/26
There's usually no middle ground with this type of music: yo...
Razzle death wish
  01/17/26
...
Supple faggot firefighter
  01/17/26
that kind of music generally sucks, but content
Trip Cerise Liquid Oxygen
  01/17/26
Have to go with Ferneyhough then. He's obviously a cynical f...
Razzle death wish
  01/17/26
180, the piece qua music isn't even that horrible, but the u...
Trip Cerise Liquid Oxygen
  01/17/26
The problem here is that this incomprehensibly complex style...
Razzle death wish
  01/17/26
but content tp
Burgundy Impressive Twinkling Uncleanness Gas Station
  01/17/26
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multi-colored stubborn trust fund boiling water
  01/17/26
Sorabji's 19th etude. Oddly upbeat and unserious considering...
Razzle death wish
  01/17/26
Jcm here
Concupiscible senate gaming laptop
  01/17/26
Julius Eastman's "Crazy Nigger": https://www.youtu...
Razzle death wish
  01/17/26
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Supple faggot firefighter
  01/17/26
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Puce persian market
  01/17/26
Hikari Kiyama's "Three Shells" for two hands and o...
Razzle death wish
  01/17/26
this is completely preposterous
Supple faggot firefighter
  01/17/26
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Puce persian market
  01/17/26
I'm Facebook friends with the pianist Ljl
Razzle death wish
  01/17/26
lmao
Supple faggot firefighter
  01/17/26
And the composer too. Almost forgot.
Razzle death wish
  01/17/26
...
Supple faggot firefighter
  01/17/26
This isn't even Kiyama's most preposterous piece. Check out ...
Razzle death wish
  01/18/26
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Cerebral violent tanning salon
  01/17/26
Michael Finnissy's Piano Concerto no. 4 for solo piano: http...
Razzle death wish
  01/17/26
Nice, still discernible dramatic arc though dissonant
Cerebral violent tanning salon
  01/17/26
Yes, I view this piece as being pushed to the absolute limit...
Razzle death wish
  01/17/26
I have attended one of the note changes in the Halberstadt p...
Supple faggot firefighter
  01/17/26
I rate you as insufferable minimalism by John Adams. Here's ...
Razzle death wish
  01/17/26
180 thank you you used the phrase "obviously a cynical...
Supple faggot firefighter
  01/17/26
No doubt John Cage spewed out a lot of pure trash, but some ...
Razzle death wish
  01/17/26
can you please link me to Cage's pieces for prepared piano y...
Supple faggot firefighter
  01/17/26
Haven't listened to them in over a decade at this point, so ...
Razzle death wish
  01/17/26
link in here please if any come to mind later on, I've never...
Supple faggot firefighter
  01/17/26
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAImmOqNzzs
Razzle death wish
  01/17/26
ty
Supple faggot firefighter
  01/17/26
Herbert Henck is a great pianist. I believe his recordings o...
Razzle death wish
  01/17/26
Damn just looked him up, and he died recently. RIP bro.
Razzle death wish
  01/17/26
...
Orchid hairy legs cuckoldry
  01/17/26
"Evryali" by Iannis Xenakis, specifically Takahash...
Razzle death wish
  01/17/26
...
Sinister base
  01/17/26
is this a compliment? are we friends?
Orchid hairy legs cuckoldry
  01/17/26
This is my favorite piece by Xenakis.
Razzle death wish
  01/17/26
I love you so much
Orchid hairy legs cuckoldry
  01/17/26
...
Sinister base
  01/17/26
Clarence Barlow's variations on the last movement from Beeth...
Razzle death wish
  01/17/26
...
bistre appetizing ladyboy university
  01/17/26
I hate to mention the same composer twice, but I can't think...
Razzle death wish
  01/18/26
do you know this? Fazil Say - Black Earth interesting te...
Avocado Bat-shit-crazy Round Eye Station
  01/17/26
I know the pianist/composer, but I haven't heard this partic...
Razzle death wish
  01/17/26
understood. and yes i understand this reaching inside is fr...
Avocado Bat-shit-crazy Round Eye Station
  01/17/26
Reaching inside was Cowell's innovation. And Cowell was one ...
Razzle death wish
  01/18/26
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Avocado Bat-shit-crazy Round Eye Station
  01/18/26


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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:20 AM
Author: Razzle death wish

mostly solo piano.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596192)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:23 AM
Author: Fuchsia candlestick maker

requesting Chopin pls

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596197)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:27 AM
Author: Razzle death wish

Chopin is from the 19th century, so we'll have to resort to an early 20th-century reintepretation of Chopin's etudes by Godowsky. Not particularly bizarre, just difficult to perform. Apologies in advance for any disappointment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuEa1XLEVSw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596202)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:24 AM
Author: Avocado Bat-shit-crazy Round Eye Station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596198)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:29 AM
Author: Razzle death wish

The second nocturne from Sciarrino's Due Notturni Crudeli -- to be performed with rage per the composer's instructions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_dn3ORLq6s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596206)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:05 PM
Author: Avocado Bat-shit-crazy Round Eye Station

wild, ty!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596339)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:37 PM
Author: Razzle death wish

There's usually no middle ground with this type of music: you either love it or violently hate it and think it's just noise.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596419)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:03 PM
Author: Supple faggot firefighter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596874)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:26 PM
Author: Trip Cerise Liquid Oxygen

that kind of music generally sucks, but content

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596394)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:30 PM
Author: Razzle death wish

Have to go with Ferneyhough then. He's obviously a cynical fraud and charlatan, but that's true of most composers with a similar style. Personally I can't stand any of his music. Enjoy! Just look at how pretentious the piece's title is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYMXbM0RCeU



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596404)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 5:45 PM
Author: Trip Cerise Liquid Oxygen

180, the piece qua music isn't even that horrible, but the unreadble notation and beyond pretentious title push it over the top

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49597223)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 8:57 PM
Author: Razzle death wish

The problem here is that this incomprehensibly complex style is taken to the point where I could create the same semi-random but pointlessly complex music despite me having no talent as a composer. That's why you can't take Ferneyhough or similar composers seriously. But they do want you to take them seriously. After all, Ferneyhough made it all the way to Stanford with this gibberish "music."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49597685)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:58 PM
Author: Burgundy Impressive Twinkling Uncleanness Gas Station

but content tp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49597001)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:41 PM
Author: multi-colored stubborn trust fund boiling water



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596425)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:47 PM
Author: Razzle death wish

Sorabji's 19th etude. Oddly upbeat and unserious considering Sorabji's typically serious style: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFZYqLqBHOc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596437)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 1:17 PM
Author: Concupiscible senate gaming laptop

Jcm here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596525)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 1:18 PM
Author: Razzle death wish

Julius Eastman's "Crazy Nigger": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aR0naIp9eM

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596530)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:10 PM
Author: Supple faggot firefighter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596884)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 1:20 PM
Author: Puce persian market



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596538)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 2:55 PM
Author: Razzle death wish

Hikari Kiyama's "Three Shells" for two hands and one foot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyy3CRuMQnc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596865)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:22 PM
Author: Supple faggot firefighter

this is completely preposterous

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596919)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:41 PM
Author: Puce persian market



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596958)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:47 PM
Author: Razzle death wish

I'm Facebook friends with the pianist Ljl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596979)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:49 PM
Author: Supple faggot firefighter

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596985)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:58 PM
Author: Razzle death wish

And the composer too. Almost forgot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596999)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 4:48 PM
Author: Supple faggot firefighter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49597089)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 9:19 AM
Author: Razzle death wish

This isn't even Kiyama's most preposterous piece. Check out his "Innocent Prisoner" for piano and voice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LIw8ykSmGU

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49598324)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 2:56 PM
Author: Cerebral violent tanning salon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596869)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 2:59 PM
Author: Razzle death wish

Michael Finnissy's Piano Concerto no. 4 for solo piano: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKfFaSWr4m0

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596870)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:38 PM
Author: Cerebral violent tanning salon

Nice, still discernible dramatic arc though dissonant

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596948)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:50 PM
Author: Razzle death wish

Yes, I view this piece as being pushed to the absolute limit of dissonance and complexity without devolving into randomness. Actually it goes too far, but there's much worse out there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596986)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:05 PM
Author: Supple faggot firefighter

I have attended one of the note changes in the Halberstadt performance of John Cage's As Slow As Possible. Rate me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/As_Slow_as_Possible

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596877)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:10 PM
Author: Razzle death wish

I rate you as insufferable minimalism by John Adams. Here's his "Phrygian Gates": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DixKnE9HqIU

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596883)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:12 PM
Author: Supple faggot firefighter

180 thank you

you used the phrase "obviously a cynical fraud and charlatan" above and that is how I view Cage but others may disagree

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596891)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:16 PM
Author: Razzle death wish

No doubt John Cage spewed out a lot of pure trash, but some of his music is actually enjoyable. For instance, his pieces for prepared piano.

Ferneyhough, the fraud and charlatan, is just SPS with no redeeming qualities. It's just unnecessary complexity and near-randomness that ordinary people laugh at (and should).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596904)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:20 PM
Author: Supple faggot firefighter

can you please link me to Cage's pieces for prepared piano you enjoyed?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596915)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:34 PM
Author: Razzle death wish

Haven't listened to them in over a decade at this point, so I don't remember specific pieces. The interesting ones had minimalist aspects IIRC. The problem with the recordings is the piano preparation and resultant sound varies wildly with each recording. So some recordings sound dull while others are more lively.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596940)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:36 PM
Author: Supple faggot firefighter

link in here please if any come to mind later on, I've never been able to enjoy anything by Cage but I'm open to reassessing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596945)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:40 PM
Author: Razzle death wish

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAImmOqNzzs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596952)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:49 PM
Author: Supple faggot firefighter

ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596984)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:52 PM
Author: Razzle death wish

Herbert Henck is a great pianist. I believe his recordings of Cage's works were my favorite.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596991)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:53 PM
Author: Razzle death wish

Damn just looked him up, and he died recently. RIP bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596993)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:38 PM
Author: Orchid hairy legs cuckoldry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596950)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:48 PM
Author: Razzle death wish

"Evryali" by Iannis Xenakis, specifically Takahashi's recording: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbUgAXt75s8

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596980)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 4:52 PM
Author: Sinister base



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49597105)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 6:25 PM
Author: Orchid hairy legs cuckoldry

is this a compliment? are we friends?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49597348)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 6:49 PM
Author: Razzle death wish

This is my favorite piece by Xenakis.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49597403)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 7:24 PM
Author: Orchid hairy legs cuckoldry

I love you so much

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49597475)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 4:52 PM
Author: Sinister base



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49597104)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 5:02 PM
Author: Razzle death wish

Clarence Barlow's variations on the last movement from Beethoven's last piano sonata, for mechanical piano: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gyJkYWdWWo (gets interesting after about 8-10 minutes)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49597137)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 7:00 PM
Author: bistre appetizing ladyboy university



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49597425)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 8:56 AM
Author: Razzle death wish

I hate to mention the same composer twice, but I can't think of anything more appropriate than Michael Finnissy's Piano Concerto no. 6 for solo piano: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_Y1bZYi60M

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49598298)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 8:10 PM
Author: Avocado Bat-shit-crazy Round Eye Station

do you know this? Fazil Say - Black Earth

interesting technique

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYtybgToH2Q&t=28s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49597568)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 8:43 PM
Author: Razzle death wish

I know the pianist/composer, but I haven't heard this particular piece. Classical music snobs would probably thumb their noses at this piece, but the snobs can be ignored. All that matters is whether you like it.

The technique of modifying the sound of the piano by interacting with the strings themselves is not new. Henry Cowell first explored this around 100 or so years ago. John Cage took the idea further in his pieces for prepared piano, which I mentioned earlier.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49597648)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 9:45 PM
Author: Avocado Bat-shit-crazy Round Eye Station

understood. and yes i understand this reaching inside is from cage - i like this a lot more than him though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49597813)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 8:54 AM
Author: Razzle death wish

Reaching inside was Cowell's innovation. And Cowell was one of Cage's teachers, if I remember correctly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49598296)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 10:26 AM
Author: Avocado Bat-shit-crazy Round Eye Station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49598425)