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rating poasters as bizarre classical music from the 20th/21st centuries

mostly solo piano.
bull headed elite death wish tanning salon
  01/17/26
requesting Chopin pls
Garnet disgusting mad cow disease hominid
  01/17/26
Chopin is from the 19th century, so we'll have to resort to ...
bull headed elite death wish tanning salon
  01/17/26
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haunting fortuitous meteor stage
  01/17/26
The second nocturne from Sciarrino's Due Notturni Crudeli --...
bull headed elite death wish tanning salon
  01/17/26
wild, ty!
haunting fortuitous meteor stage
  01/17/26
There's usually no middle ground with this type of music: yo...
bull headed elite death wish tanning salon
  01/17/26
...
Outnumbered parlour
  01/17/26
that kind of music generally sucks, but content
Offensive Low-t Range
  01/17/26
Have to go with Ferneyhough then. He's obviously a cynical f...
bull headed elite death wish tanning salon
  01/17/26
180, the piece qua music isn't even that horrible, but the u...
Offensive Low-t Range
  01/17/26
The problem here is that this incomprehensibly complex style...
bull headed elite death wish tanning salon
  01/17/26
but content tp
Histrionic sandwich location
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Vigorous Trailer Park
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Sorabji's 19th etude. Oddly upbeat and unserious considering...
bull headed elite death wish tanning salon
  01/17/26
Jcm here
apoplectic glassy home pervert
  01/17/26
Julius Eastman's "Crazy Nigger": https://www.youtu...
bull headed elite death wish tanning salon
  01/17/26
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Outnumbered parlour
  01/17/26
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Razzmatazz awkward address
  01/17/26
Hikari Kiyama's "Three Shells" for two hands and o...
bull headed elite death wish tanning salon
  01/17/26
this is completely preposterous
Outnumbered parlour
  01/17/26
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Razzmatazz awkward address
  01/17/26
I'm Facebook friends with the pianist Ljl
bull headed elite death wish tanning salon
  01/17/26
lmao
Outnumbered parlour
  01/17/26
And the composer too. Almost forgot.
bull headed elite death wish tanning salon
  01/17/26
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Outnumbered parlour
  01/17/26
This isn't even Kiyama's most preposterous piece. Check out ...
bull headed elite death wish tanning salon
  01/18/26
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vivacious church
  01/17/26
Michael Finnissy's Piano Concerto no. 4 for solo piano: http...
bull headed elite death wish tanning salon
  01/17/26
Nice, still discernible dramatic arc though dissonant
vivacious church
  01/17/26
Yes, I view this piece as being pushed to the absolute limit...
bull headed elite death wish tanning salon
  01/17/26
I have attended one of the note changes in the Halberstadt p...
Outnumbered parlour
  01/17/26
I rate you as insufferable minimalism by John Adams. Here's ...
bull headed elite death wish tanning salon
  01/17/26
180 thank you you used the phrase "obviously a cynical...
Outnumbered parlour
  01/17/26
No doubt John Cage spewed out a lot of pure trash, but some ...
bull headed elite death wish tanning salon
  01/17/26
can you please link me to Cage's pieces for prepared piano y...
Outnumbered parlour
  01/17/26
Haven't listened to them in over a decade at this point, so ...
bull headed elite death wish tanning salon
  01/17/26
link in here please if any come to mind later on, I've never...
Outnumbered parlour
  01/17/26
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAImmOqNzzs
bull headed elite death wish tanning salon
  01/17/26
ty
Outnumbered parlour
  01/17/26
Herbert Henck is a great pianist. I believe his recordings o...
bull headed elite death wish tanning salon
  01/17/26
Damn just looked him up, and he died recently. RIP bro.
bull headed elite death wish tanning salon
  01/17/26
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Adventurous internet-worthy pisswyrm national
  01/17/26
"Evryali" by Iannis Xenakis, specifically Takahash...
bull headed elite death wish tanning salon
  01/17/26
...
Irradiated disturbing lodge depressive
  01/17/26
is this a compliment? are we friends?
Adventurous internet-worthy pisswyrm national
  01/17/26
This is my favorite piece by Xenakis.
bull headed elite death wish tanning salon
  01/17/26
I love you so much
Adventurous internet-worthy pisswyrm national
  01/17/26
...
Irradiated disturbing lodge depressive
  01/17/26
Clarence Barlow's variations on the last movement from Beeth...
bull headed elite death wish tanning salon
  01/17/26
...
violent cruel-hearted bawdyhouse
  01/17/26
I hate to mention the same composer twice, but I can't think...
bull headed elite death wish tanning salon
  01/18/26
do you know this? Fazil Say - Black Earth interesting te...
haunting fortuitous meteor stage
  01/17/26
I know the pianist/composer, but I haven't heard this partic...
bull headed elite death wish tanning salon
  01/17/26
understood. and yes i understand this reaching inside is fr...
haunting fortuitous meteor stage
  01/17/26
Reaching inside was Cowell's innovation. And Cowell was one ...
bull headed elite death wish tanning salon
  01/18/26
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haunting fortuitous meteor stage
  01/18/26


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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:20 AM
Author: bull headed elite death wish tanning salon

mostly solo piano.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596192)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:23 AM
Author: Garnet disgusting mad cow disease hominid

requesting Chopin pls

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596197)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:27 AM
Author: bull headed elite death wish tanning salon

Chopin is from the 19th century, so we'll have to resort to an early 20th-century reintepretation of Chopin's etudes by Godowsky. Not particularly bizarre, just difficult to perform. Apologies in advance for any disappointment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuEa1XLEVSw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596202)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:24 AM
Author: haunting fortuitous meteor stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596198)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:29 AM
Author: bull headed elite death wish tanning salon

The second nocturne from Sciarrino's Due Notturni Crudeli -- to be performed with rage per the composer's instructions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_dn3ORLq6s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596206)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:05 PM
Author: haunting fortuitous meteor stage

wild, ty!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596339)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:37 PM
Author: bull headed elite death wish tanning salon

There's usually no middle ground with this type of music: you either love it or violently hate it and think it's just noise.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596419)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:03 PM
Author: Outnumbered parlour



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596874)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:26 PM
Author: Offensive Low-t Range

that kind of music generally sucks, but content

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596394)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:30 PM
Author: bull headed elite death wish tanning salon

Have to go with Ferneyhough then. He's obviously a cynical fraud and charlatan, but that's true of most composers with a similar style. Personally I can't stand any of his music. Enjoy! Just look at how pretentious the piece's title is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYMXbM0RCeU



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596404)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 5:45 PM
Author: Offensive Low-t Range

180, the piece qua music isn't even that horrible, but the unreadble notation and beyond pretentious title push it over the top

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49597223)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 8:57 PM
Author: bull headed elite death wish tanning salon

The problem here is that this incomprehensibly complex style is taken to the point where I could create the same semi-random but pointlessly complex music despite me having no talent as a composer. That's why you can't take Ferneyhough or similar composers seriously. But they do want you to take them seriously. After all, Ferneyhough made it all the way to Stanford with this gibberish "music."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49597685)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:58 PM
Author: Histrionic sandwich location

but content tp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49597001)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:41 PM
Author: Vigorous Trailer Park



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596425)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:47 PM
Author: bull headed elite death wish tanning salon

Sorabji's 19th etude. Oddly upbeat and unserious considering Sorabji's typically serious style: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFZYqLqBHOc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596437)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 1:17 PM
Author: apoplectic glassy home pervert

Jcm here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596525)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 1:18 PM
Author: bull headed elite death wish tanning salon

Julius Eastman's "Crazy Nigger": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aR0naIp9eM

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596530)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:10 PM
Author: Outnumbered parlour



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596884)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 1:20 PM
Author: Razzmatazz awkward address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596538)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 2:55 PM
Author: bull headed elite death wish tanning salon

Hikari Kiyama's "Three Shells" for two hands and one foot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyy3CRuMQnc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596865)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:22 PM
Author: Outnumbered parlour

this is completely preposterous

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596919)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:41 PM
Author: Razzmatazz awkward address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596958)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:47 PM
Author: bull headed elite death wish tanning salon

I'm Facebook friends with the pianist Ljl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596979)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:49 PM
Author: Outnumbered parlour

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596985)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:58 PM
Author: bull headed elite death wish tanning salon

And the composer too. Almost forgot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596999)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 4:48 PM
Author: Outnumbered parlour



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49597089)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 9:19 AM
Author: bull headed elite death wish tanning salon

This isn't even Kiyama's most preposterous piece. Check out his "Innocent Prisoner" for piano and voice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LIw8ykSmGU

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49598324)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 2:56 PM
Author: vivacious church



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596869)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 2:59 PM
Author: bull headed elite death wish tanning salon

Michael Finnissy's Piano Concerto no. 4 for solo piano: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKfFaSWr4m0

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596870)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:38 PM
Author: vivacious church

Nice, still discernible dramatic arc though dissonant

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596948)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:50 PM
Author: bull headed elite death wish tanning salon

Yes, I view this piece as being pushed to the absolute limit of dissonance and complexity without devolving into randomness. Actually it goes too far, but there's much worse out there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596986)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:05 PM
Author: Outnumbered parlour

I have attended one of the note changes in the Halberstadt performance of John Cage's As Slow As Possible. Rate me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/As_Slow_as_Possible

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596877)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:10 PM
Author: bull headed elite death wish tanning salon

I rate you as insufferable minimalism by John Adams. Here's his "Phrygian Gates": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DixKnE9HqIU

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596883)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:12 PM
Author: Outnumbered parlour

180 thank you

you used the phrase "obviously a cynical fraud and charlatan" above and that is how I view Cage but others may disagree

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596891)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:16 PM
Author: bull headed elite death wish tanning salon

No doubt John Cage spewed out a lot of pure trash, but some of his music is actually enjoyable. For instance, his pieces for prepared piano.

Ferneyhough, the fraud and charlatan, is just SPS with no redeeming qualities. It's just unnecessary complexity and near-randomness that ordinary people laugh at (and should).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596904)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:20 PM
Author: Outnumbered parlour

can you please link me to Cage's pieces for prepared piano you enjoyed?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596915)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:34 PM
Author: bull headed elite death wish tanning salon

Haven't listened to them in over a decade at this point, so I don't remember specific pieces. The interesting ones had minimalist aspects IIRC. The problem with the recordings is the piano preparation and resultant sound varies wildly with each recording. So some recordings sound dull while others are more lively.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596940)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:36 PM
Author: Outnumbered parlour

link in here please if any come to mind later on, I've never been able to enjoy anything by Cage but I'm open to reassessing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596945)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:40 PM
Author: bull headed elite death wish tanning salon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAImmOqNzzs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596952)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:49 PM
Author: Outnumbered parlour

ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596984)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:52 PM
Author: bull headed elite death wish tanning salon

Herbert Henck is a great pianist. I believe his recordings of Cage's works were my favorite.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596991)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:53 PM
Author: bull headed elite death wish tanning salon

Damn just looked him up, and he died recently. RIP bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596993)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:38 PM
Author: Adventurous internet-worthy pisswyrm national



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596950)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:48 PM
Author: bull headed elite death wish tanning salon

"Evryali" by Iannis Xenakis, specifically Takahashi's recording: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbUgAXt75s8

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49596980)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 4:52 PM
Author: Irradiated disturbing lodge depressive



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49597105)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 6:25 PM
Author: Adventurous internet-worthy pisswyrm national

is this a compliment? are we friends?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49597348)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 6:49 PM
Author: bull headed elite death wish tanning salon

This is my favorite piece by Xenakis.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49597403)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 7:24 PM
Author: Adventurous internet-worthy pisswyrm national

I love you so much

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49597475)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 4:52 PM
Author: Irradiated disturbing lodge depressive



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49597104)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 5:02 PM
Author: bull headed elite death wish tanning salon

Clarence Barlow's variations on the last movement from Beethoven's last piano sonata, for mechanical piano: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gyJkYWdWWo (gets interesting after about 8-10 minutes)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49597137)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 7:00 PM
Author: violent cruel-hearted bawdyhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49597425)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 8:56 AM
Author: bull headed elite death wish tanning salon

I hate to mention the same composer twice, but I can't think of anything more appropriate than Michael Finnissy's Piano Concerto no. 6 for solo piano: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_Y1bZYi60M

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49598298)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 8:10 PM
Author: haunting fortuitous meteor stage

do you know this? Fazil Say - Black Earth

interesting technique

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYtybgToH2Q&t=28s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49597568)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 8:43 PM
Author: bull headed elite death wish tanning salon

I know the pianist/composer, but I haven't heard this particular piece. Classical music snobs would probably thumb their noses at this piece, but the snobs can be ignored. All that matters is whether you like it.

The technique of modifying the sound of the piano by interacting with the strings themselves is not new. Henry Cowell first explored this around 100 or so years ago. John Cage took the idea further in his pieces for prepared piano, which I mentioned earlier.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49597648)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 9:45 PM
Author: haunting fortuitous meteor stage

understood. and yes i understand this reaching inside is from cage - i like this a lot more than him though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49597813)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 8:54 AM
Author: bull headed elite death wish tanning salon

Reaching inside was Cowell's innovation. And Cowell was one of Cage's teachers, if I remember correctly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49598296)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 10:26 AM
Author: haunting fortuitous meteor stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id#49598425)