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Finished Bukowski's Ham on Rye (1982)

I finished Bukowski’s Ham on Rye (1982), which is appa...
Charismatic Piazza Roast Beef
  06/17/25
Nobody cares. Bukowski sucks and you’re a retarded fag...
fishy comical public bath
  06/17/25
This is exactly what Bukowski would say.
useless cyan dysfunction chapel
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Charismatic Piazza Roast Beef
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Honey-headed motley abode shitlib
  06/17/25
This is just what we needed the boring thoughts of an idioti...
Spectacular Amber Library Corn Cake
  06/17/25
whoa crr
arousing sex offender plaza
  06/17/25
MPA is highly supportive of this because he is low iq and je...
fishy comical public bath
  06/17/25
The distinction between my response and his might be that he...
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Charismatic Piazza Roast Beef
  06/17/25
id like some elaboration here
Puce international law enforcement agency
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Mother was both nurturing but also extremely passive aggress...
Charismatic Piazza Roast Beef
  06/17/25
“I’m a kike!” How groundbreaking. You m...
fishy comical public bath
  06/17/25
That’s a long time to eat a sandwich.
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Date: June 17th, 2025 6:21 AM
Author: Charismatic Piazza Roast Beef

I finished Bukowski’s Ham on Rye (1982), which is apparently his most famous novel along with his first, Post Office. It is a semi-autobiographical novel about his youth - born in Germany, raised in Los Angeles, always a poor outsider, wisecracking and fast talking, his loves were alcohol and writing. He developed terrible acne as a teenager which made his outsider status worse but even that was something he accepted and suffered through.

The book is lovely, an easy and flowing read. Bukowski discusses the difficulties of life and he does it in a wry, direct, honest and disarming style. One can’t help but love the guy - he’s got such a defined voice.

He states that he’s neither a misanthrope nor a misogynist in the book, and I think at least the second part is true for him - for the first, he uses alcohol to dull the pain of existence. However, Bukowski, for all his self-loathing and rawness, seemed to channel his suffering into a grudging acceptance of the human animal - ugly, dirty, and laughable, yes, but not necessarily evil. He’s disillusioned, yes, but rarely metaphysically embittered. The distinction between my response and his might be that he located suffering within fate—while I seem to locate it within betrayal, both relational and metaphysical.

I’ve read all of Bukowkski’s poetry online (https://www.best-poems.net/charles_bukowski/index.html) and will continue to read more of his works.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739087&forum_id=2...id.#49023314)



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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:17 AM
Author: fishy comical public bath

Nobody cares. Bukowski sucks and you’re a retarded faggot.

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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:20 AM
Author: useless cyan dysfunction chapel

This is exactly what Bukowski would say.

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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:28 AM
Author: Charismatic Piazza Roast Beef



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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:33 AM
Author: Puce international law enforcement agency



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Date: June 17th, 2025 8:37 AM
Author: supple lay



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Date: June 17th, 2025 8:38 AM
Author: rose soggy stage weed whacker



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Date: June 17th, 2025 8:39 AM
Author: Honey-headed motley abode shitlib



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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:18 AM
Author: Spectacular Amber Library Corn Cake

This is just what we needed the boring thoughts of an idiotic faggot. Kill yourself.

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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:18 AM
Author: arousing sex offender plaza

whoa crr

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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:19 AM
Author: fishy comical public bath

MPA is highly supportive of this because he is low iq and jewish

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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:26 AM
Author: odious cumskin

The distinction between my response and his might be that he located suffering within fate—while I seem to locate it within betrayal, both relational and metaphysical.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739087&forum_id=2...id.#49023382)



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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:28 AM
Author: Charismatic Piazza Roast Beef



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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:34 AM
Author: Puce international law enforcement agency

id like some elaboration here

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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:41 AM
Author: Charismatic Piazza Roast Beef

Mother was both nurturing but also extremely passive aggressive and never respected my emotional red lines, which felt on a subconscious level, to a young child, like deep betrayal and which has warped my relationship with all women thereafter.

My philosophical pessimism and gnosticism is well documented here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739087&forum_id=2...id.#49023397)



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Date: June 17th, 2025 8:40 AM
Author: fishy comical public bath

“I’m a kike!”

How groundbreaking. You might be the next bukowski.

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Date: June 17th, 2025 10:18 AM
Author: slap-happy irradiated cruise ship roommate

That’s a long time to eat a sandwich.

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Date: June 17th, 2025 11:14 AM
Author: grizzly elastic band



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Date: June 17th, 2025 4:39 PM
Author: Charismatic Piazza Roast Beef



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