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KOHBERGER TAKES A PLEA DEAL
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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:18 PM Author: At-the-ready Church Building 4 consecutive life sentences + 10 years, waives right to appeal in exchange for no death penalty. Kaylee Goncalves parents claim the plea deal was rushed and they were never consulted. Prosecution says the other family of the victims were on board, spares a gruesome trial. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062116) |
Date: June 30th, 2025 10:26 PM Author: Excitant Fat Ankles DA should be lynched (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062131) |
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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:28 PM Author: Carmine zippy address round eye why not take LWOP and move on if the defendant is willing to cop a plea and waive any appellate rights? the DP seems like a good card to use to extract a LWOP plea and spare the government of 30 years of death penalty kike litigation (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062139) |
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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:33 PM Author: At-the-ready Church Building This is how the DP is used in every state that has it. Defendants get spooked, choke up, and will give the state what they want in exchange for no DP. It's a one weird trick. Saves states millions and millions of dollars. Spares victims families. The only people who are MAF are the ones who want to spend 20 million dollars over the life of the case just to put a bullet in a guy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062145) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 7:39 AM Author: Big Pale Circlehead Center the parents of the stabbed girls are pissed af apparently (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062562) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 8:41 AM Author: Carmine zippy address round eye the state represents all of people, not just the victims. you cant please everyone. if we were the parents, we'd likely feel the same way. that doesn't mean it's not the the rational result. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062653) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:18 AM Author: Big Pale Circlehead Center real head scratcher why everyone hates jewish lawyers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062718) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:33 AM Author: Carmine zippy address round eye Yeah just do listen to the victim’s family. Works great if the victim is some shitlib (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062756) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:39 AM Author: Big Pale Circlehead Center instead we should listen to cumfarter jewish lawyers who have no actual power or authority. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062767) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 7:40 AM Author: charismatic deep set (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062566) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 8:41 AM Author: Carmine zippy address round eye (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062654) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:21 AM Author: Cerebral jewess "spend[ing] 20 million dollars over the life of the case" is the real issue (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062916) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 3:10 AM Author: Excitant Fat Ankles Its idaho they'd kill him pretty quick and I think they do it by firing squad now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062409) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 7:08 AM Author: Carmine zippy address round eye flame. there's all sorts of federal appeals. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062498) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:06 AM Author: Fear-inspiring lascivious stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062697) |
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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:27 PM Author: cobalt razzle alpha I truly don't understand taking a deal just to get to be in prison longer, and a death penalty trial gets you tons of additional options and shitlib judges on your side on appeal, stupid lawyers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062136) |
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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:30 PM Author: razzmatazz sepia weed whacker cr. Lethal injection seems pretty chill. Who wants to rot in a jail cell for 5 decades with no hope of getting out? Torture. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062140) |
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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:32 PM Author: Translucent 180 indian lodge elastic band There's always hope that a Democrat politician will issue blanket pardons in fifteen years. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062143) |
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Date: June 30th, 2025 11:48 PM Author: razzle-dazzle sandwich school Idaho brought back the firing squad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062258) |
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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:31 PM Author: Stimulating Mental Disorder they probably just want to get over it because of shame (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062141) |
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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:36 PM Author: At-the-ready Church Building Some people don't mind prison. A guy like Kohberger wants to relive the crimes, be a big to do, get lots of respect. Tons of people don't mind prison and it's not a deterrent for many. Bryan will get a ton of fan mail, get to consult on Hollywood projects and books written about him. Guys who don't mind doing time at all describe it as summer camp without the sex. The only drawback is there's no women around but as long as you don't really care about sex what's the downside? You get free meals and have a strict bedtime? You get to play dice with your friends and bet with bags of chips? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062149) |
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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:39 PM Author: razzmatazz sepia weed whacker Probably is going to get tons of fan mail from nubile women to jerk off to at least (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062153) |
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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:41 PM Author: At-the-ready Church Building The COs read their mail and shit I don't think they get to see nudes but maybe a face pic.
I always want wondered where do these guys jerk off? If you are wanking when the lights go down do they like come over and tell you to stfu or what? |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:41 AM Author: smoky exhilarant temple in prison the dudes consensually have sex with each other right? they probably jerk off whenever they want (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062774) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:49 AM Author: Carmine zippy address round eye Consent takes on a new meaning in prison. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062795) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:28 AM Author: odious salmon crackhouse Cr, a lot of big bucks doing life are rehabilitated and fully woke on the topic of affirmative consent and power dynamics (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062938) |
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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:37 PM Author: citrine talking azn he put a lot of effort into it, but fucked up a lot of details. i hope we can all learn from his mistakes.
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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:40 PM Author: At-the-ready Church Building The reason serial killers are so bad at it is they are completely engrossed in a fantasy while it's happening. If a normal person was training to do it without any passion or emotion certainly a lot more would get away. But these guys are all on the verge of cumming and shit while they're gutting coeds like a pig so there's no way they could possibly be thinking straight enough to not fuck it up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062155) |
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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:41 PM Author: citrine talking azn i'm open to collaboration
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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:43 PM Author: razzmatazz sepia weed whacker It’s just not practical anymore. You can’t just kill some randos anymore in a big public way and expect to get away with it. Cameras everywhere, cell phone tracking, DNA ancestry databases. Even if you are thinking clearly, every little detail needs to be just right. He should have just offed a couple hookers near an interstate if he wanted to get away with it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062166) |
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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:51 PM Author: At-the-ready Church Building My buddy's a detective and is literally like 105 IQ and he solves all these major cases and they think he's a fuckin law enforcement mastermind because he knows how to pull cell phone data and request digital search warrants and he's got 10 IQ points over the rest of the force and he's in the paper all the time solving famous cold cases and shit. His life is 180. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062172) |
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Date: June 30th, 2025 11:11 PM Author: Stimulating Mental Disorder explain how judge approve them ? is there always pc? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062192) |
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Date: June 30th, 2025 11:26 PM Author: At-the-ready Church Building Yeah he was telling me about it. He says it's tough you only get narrow approval. He was trying to get blanket coverage to search for this guy's cell phone pinging off the tower and the judge was like fuk u, you get an hour. He was telling me how he narrowed down the time frame and shit and at this point he lost me it was some straight Jigsaw John shit he was talkin about ring cameras and geolocation and shit it sounded super complicated.
Anyway he got the search warrant for that hour and he got the suspect's phone pinging. It was an armed robbery of some guy selling Jordan's on Instagram. It was an inside job somebody knew the guy and where he'd be and shit. Buddy sold him out and these guys busted down the door and stole all his sneakers. The suspects almost got away but this dude got picked up on a weed charge a few weeks later and the whole case unraveled.
My buddy said husband favorite part of the job is confronting them with the evidence in the interrogation room. He told the guy we got so much evidence on you we don't even need the confession. The guy said "Go fuck yourself" and my buddy said "No thanks" and walked away. He said he was grinning ear to ear for the rest of the day. |
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Date: June 30th, 2025 11:49 PM Author: razzle-dazzle sandwich school (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062265) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:33 AM Author: odious salmon crackhouse "He told the guy we got so much evidence on you we don't even need the confession. The guy said "Go fuck yourself" and my buddy said "No thanks" and walked away. He said he was grinning ear to ear for the rest of the day."
Ur buddy needs to work on his CSI one liner comebacks |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:55 AM Author: At-the-ready Church Building Cr his humor is kind of corny. But unlike CSI actors he's a real cop. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49063209) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:30 AM Author: odious salmon crackhouse on the verge of cumming and shit while gutting coeds like a pig tp (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062944) |
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Date: June 30th, 2025 11:10 PM Author: Vivacious National Codepig What’s in it for the state? This guy deserves the DO. No plea should have been offered just because the prosecution wants to have a nice vacation this summer. Bullshit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062190) |
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Date: June 30th, 2025 11:29 PM Author: At-the-ready Church Building Counterpoint trials are traumatic and appeals cost the state shitloads of money.
You really want the family to have to sit through the prosecutor explaining that their daughters guts were hanging from the ceiling fan (a rumored fact of the case)?
And then for 20 years some extremely well funded morbidly obese Jewess lawyers show up argue against death because it's MORALLY WRONG FOR THE STATE TO KILL while draining local resources?
This plea is a no brainer. |
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Date: June 30th, 2025 11:36 PM Author: Vivacious National Codepig The families can sit outside the courtroom for that part. They don’t have to be in there. “Hey first day is going to extremely graphic don’t be here for opening statements.” “Ok”.
It’s the most gruesome murders in Idaho history and people need vengeance. Huge mistake by the state. |
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Date: June 30th, 2025 11:38 PM Author: At-the-ready Church Building What'll like happen. Will the DA lose reelection over this? Will the Latah County DA get voted out? What's at stake? Kohberger 4x life + no appeal. It's a no brainer dude. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062225) |
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Date: June 30th, 2025 11:40 PM Author: Vivacious National Codepig You keep saying that without any reason except it saves the state money in appeals. I mean Lol who gives a fuck about saving money on appeals for the most high profile case in state history. How does that even factor into the decision.
The state is just lazy as fuck that’s why this happened. It’s a travesty of justice. |
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Date: June 30th, 2025 11:46 PM Author: At-the-ready Church Building How much money do you think they have in Moscow, Idaho to fight this shit in court for 25 years? You think they're just sitting on a giant bag of money?
BTW in state court for criminal cases a plea is almost always offered. And it's always to save money. The whole system runs on saving money. Always has. |
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Date: June 30th, 2025 11:50 PM Author: citrine talking azn (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062268) |
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Date: June 30th, 2025 11:54 PM Author: Vivacious National Codepig They can do it for the 1000 other cases. Not this one. The state as a whole pays it not the county of wherever Moscow is. He deserves death. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062288) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 12:13 AM Author: At-the-ready Church Building This happened in my state a few years ago. Grizzly murders, national headlines. Defendant was offered LWOP to avoid the DP. Happens everywhere. I was mad about it too for a while but I got over it. This stuff happens in every state I guarantee it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062308) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 3:12 AM Author: Pearl brunch idea he suggested How many bears died? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062411) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 AM Author: flatulent grizzly yarmulke gunner (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062899) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:35 AM Author: odious salmon crackhouse Poast/moniker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062968) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:59 AM Author: Fear-inspiring lascivious stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49063038) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:11 AM Author: Heady market (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49063077) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 3:14 AM Author: Excitant Fat Ankles You must live in a lib state, idaho should be better than this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062413) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 3:20 AM Author: At-the-ready Church Building Nah red state that actually kills a lot of people. They just have so many cases they always offering pleas. If EVERY defendant agreed simultaneously to go to trial the entire system would collapse. The state HATES trying cases. Virtually every state hates going to trial on anything ever. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062417) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:22 AM Author: Vivacious National Codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062918) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 7:41 AM Author: Big Pale Circlehead Center good post/moniker sync itt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062570) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 7:43 AM Author: charismatic deep set CR
They got the guy, he's never going to have the opportunity to do this again, now they can spend the money they would have spent on a high profile trial and inevitable death penalty appellate litigation on prosecuting other cases
leaving aside the morality of the death penalty this is clearly a good result |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 8:32 AM Author: Vivacious National Codepig If all we're concerned about is that he won't do this again let's just put him under strict house arrest (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062643) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 8:42 AM Author: Carmine zippy address round eye he's still getting LWOP (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062655) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:27 AM Author: Big Pale Circlehead Center he should be shot in the head. if the problem is jewish lawyers doing decades of appeals then they should be told to go fuck themselves. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062741) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:36 AM Author: Carmine zippy address round eye Decision makers have to live in reality. Easy for you to mouth off from your basement. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062761) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:38 AM Author: Big Pale Circlehead Center jewish cumfarter lawyers should be removed from the decision making process. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062764) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:45 AM Author: Carmine zippy address round eye Sure, but that’s not happening. Again, welcome to reality. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062786) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:04 AM Author: Talented Ivory Ticket Booth the guy should be executed ASAP. sadly that outcome is not possible under our current legal system. this is the best result that could reasonably be expected. people MAF about this are wishing the system would do something it doesnt do. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062690) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:37 AM Author: Carmine zippy address round eye (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062762) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:39 AM Author: Big Pale Circlehead Center just ignore the legal system then. no one needs to listen to these faggot judges. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062765) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:47 AM Author: Carmine zippy address round eye Your schtick is getting very tired very quickly (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062790) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:52 AM Author: Vivacious National Codepig no its not the best outcome. the best outcome is you prove the case at trial, and have the DP go to a conservative jury that will gladly agree to it. and then 15 years from now execute him. thats the best outcome. its also realistic. the evidence is overwhelming. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062801) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:55 AM Author: Carmine zippy address round eye Given that this will cost the taxpayers millions of dollars, perhaps getting him to cop a quick plea to LWOP is a better outcome. Reasonable minds can differ. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062813) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:05 AM Author: Talented Ivory Ticket Booth last person to be executed in idaho was in 2012. there are people who have been on death row since the 80s there (https://www.idoc.idaho.gov/content/prisons/death-row).
executing him within 15 years is not realistic. the sufficiency of the evidence has no bearing on anything. you think executions are scheduled based on how certain the guy is guilty? |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:06 AM Author: Carmine zippy address round eye (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062864) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:07 AM Author: Vivacious National Codepig the sufficiency of evidence has bearing on whether he's found guilty in the first place. no clue how you could infer that i think executions are scheduled based on how guilty someone is.
their guts were hanging from the ceiling fan. its deeply wrong to do an economic calculation in an era of such incredible waste and conclude that this is the smart penny pinching to do.
this plea is pure cowardice. |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 AM Author: Talented Ivory Ticket Booth no clue? because you said the evidence is overwhelming as part of your argument that executing in 15 years is a reasonable expectation.
"and then 15 years from now execute him. thats the best outcome. its also realistic. the evidence is overwhelming." |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:17 AM Author: Vivacious National Codepig that was in response to "this is the best result that could reasonably be expected."
which suggests that there are lesser outcomes that could happen like a NG which would never in a million years happen.
this isnt the "best outcome" that could reasonably be expected. thats the DP.
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:26 AM Author: Talented Ivory Ticket Booth cmon bro this is consuela tier sophistry.
regardless, i just poasted the list of idaho death row inmates and last execution as evidence 15 years is not a realistic expection. so putting you evidence comment aside, given that information, why would think this guy would be executed quicker than the others who were convicted of crimes just as heinous and have been on death row for 40 years? |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:28 AM Author: Vivacious National Codepig it doesn't matter if its 15 years or 40 years. i really dont care. i was guessing it woiuld be 15, if its 40 then so be it.
the state must take a moral stand against these types of crimes. that the process has been corrupted by shitlibs is not a reason to throw in the towel.
do you agree that the state should be putting people to death for some murders, or are you opposed to the death penalty? |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:35 AM Author: Talented Ivory Ticket Booth i said right from the outset the guy should be executed ASAP.
fine, go join a death penalty advocacy group. right now you're just maf that the system is the way it is because of the Current Thing. will you still be maf tomorrow and actually working towards the change you want? |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:10 AM Author: Histrionic selfie coffee pot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062884) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:18 AM Author: charismatic deep set eh i'm an anti DP mo unless you actually can't safely keep someone incarcerated (if someone is still killing behind bars or arranging hits etc outside of prison, then at that point you can't safely keep them there and you should kill them)
that said, i'll happily concede that this is the sort of guy you have a death penalty for and he's a sick fuck who should die, i just don't think the state should make that determination absent the case i mentioned above. but it has nothing to do with sympathy for the given criminal. |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:44 AM Author: Carmine zippy address round eye At this point in our fucked up legal system, if the DP is on the books just to practically induce the most heinous defendants to quickly cop a LWOP plea, that’s the best we can hope for. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062784) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:08 AM Author: Vivacious National Codepig pussy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062874) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:10 AM Author: Histrionic selfie coffee pot it's the right call, he's waiving his appeals so he's locked up forever. trial judge has been ruling against defendant on everything, there are definite appealable issues that would take forever to sort out and could lead to new trials or other uncertainty down the line. best just to lock him up and be done with it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062883) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:11 AM Author: Vivacious National Codepig you have no idea if there are 'appealable issues' inhouse counsel. you just dont want the DP ever. so just say that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062890) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:13 AM Author: Carmine zippy address round eye We love the DP. We just live in reality unlike some basement virgins mouthing off itt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062895) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 AM Author: Vivacious National Codepig No you dont you twink fag. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062902) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:18 AM Author: Carmine zippy address round eye I’m pro DP for any murder of any degree. The Torah provides for this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062909) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:20 AM Author: Vivacious National Codepig No you aren't. otherwise you'd be for the death penalty in a case where a man cuts open 4 people and hangs their guts from the ceiling fan in the most premeditated of cases. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062912) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:23 AM Author: Carmine zippy address round eye Low IQ schtick? I’m for him getting the DP. I also recognize the reality of the world we live in, that the DP litigation is so retarded that it’s better just to take a quick LWOP (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062920) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:25 AM Author: Vivacious National Codepig Jew? You're not for him getting the death penalty if you're not for him getting the death penalty in this case.
its not "better" for the state to plea to save some money when a defendant deserves death. its "better" to put him to death. |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:27 AM Author: Carmine zippy address round eye Your “argument” requires literally misrepresenting my words. You’re done here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062934) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:29 AM Author: Vivacious National Codepig Ok jew (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062942) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:27 AM Author: Talented Ivory Ticket Booth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062935) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:14 AM Author: Histrionic selfie coffee pot i am anti death penalty personally but that has no bearing on my analysis here. even in the most open and shut DP cases they find minutia to drag out in appeals. ive been following this case somewhat and there are definitely significant issues a competent appellate attorney could run with. this could go on for decades at massive expense to the state. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062896) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 AM Author: Vivacious National Codepig one case is not a "massive expense". there are cases where its worth it. this is one. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062897) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:22 AM Author: aromatic menage Yeah but in my alternate version of reality we run an efficient death penalty system. La La La I can’t hear any facts!!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062917) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:24 AM Author: Carmine zippy address round eye (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062922) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:35 AM Author: Talented Ivory Ticket Booth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062967) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:32 AM Author: Talented Ivory Ticket Booth we don't know his motive. he apparently has autism and a history of behavioral issues. tons to work with on appeal.
there aren't a lot of aggrevating circumstances here and a death penalty sentence isn't even a slam dunk. the guy has no criminal history. there is certainly a lot to work with on appeal. a random murderer with no history isn't usually the type of person that gets the dp let alone fast tracked.
this is just dead cute white girl syndrome. |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:36 AM Author: underhanded lay generalized bond Nothing in any litigation should take decades. A surgeon can rip out your kidney and put a new one in in under 6 hours and that takes like 10 years of school and shit to learn. Nothing a retard lawyer (and lets be honest, every last one of us is too stupid for medicine) can argue should ever take more than an afternoon. That we build a system where anything takes years or decades is an indictment on us as a nation and why we deserve all the shit we are all collectively in. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062973) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:43 AM Author: Histrionic selfie coffee pot cr, law is the most retarded profession (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49063000) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:38 AM Author: Passionate Swollen French Chef Space This assumes he won’t file infinity habeas and ineffective assistance motions, which he will, and Idaho will pay for forever. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062986) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:30 AM Author: underhanded lay generalized bond Dude is in Idaho, right? How's the food in Idaho state prison? Might not be so bad.... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062946) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:32 AM Author: Histrionic selfie coffee pot https://www.idoc.idaho.gov/content/document/sample_food_service_menu (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062953) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:33 AM Author: underhanded lay generalized bond I eat farina and I didnt even get to kill 4 people.... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062960) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:38 AM Author: razzle-dazzle sandwich school dinners are pretty good but breakfast isn't great (no eggs, ever?) and some of the lunches are quite shitty - I like PB&J but they're really serving that for lunch 3 days a week? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062983) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:42 AM Author: Histrionic selfie coffee pot lol'd at "cereal bar and sunflower seeds" for lunch on sunday (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49062999) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 12:14 PM Author: razzle-dazzle sandwich school I did a double take at this, how can a grown man survive on a granola bar and bird seed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49063254) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:32 AM Author: burgundy ceo stage Scrambled eggs on Wed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49063159) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 12:42 PM Author: citrine talking azn lots of margarine for a dairy state.
tons of peanut butter. tons of pork. they serve fish, but never on a friday.
seems like a good menu, but designed by a troll.
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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:07 AM Author: Vibrant chocolate half-breed fanboi Sucks he doesn't get the firing squad but god willing he is beat to death in the prison yard in a few years (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49063068) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:21 AM Author: hateful death wish This is a riskier case than people think. The best evidence is his DNA on a knife sheath near a victim. No DNA from him on victims. No DNA from victims on him. No eyewitness that can ID him. Witness saw shadowy figure, but was very intoxicated and went back to bed before calling 911. No other evidence putting him at crime scene. No murder weapon. No clear motive/connection to victims. Defense can poke holes in the DNA evidence and there might be unknown issues that could get it excluded. Seems like the witnesses/victims were heavy partiers, so defense can bring up all kinds of embarrassing stuff to attack credibility and suggest alternative theories. Trial is probably 10% chance not guilty and 15% chance mistrial (where he would get a better plea after). Even assuming guilty verdict, there's a big chance he doesn't get DP (conservative Christians who believe in forgiveness, he has mental issues etc.). Even if he gets DP, there's a big chance he gets it reduced on appeal or strings out appeals for a few decades before he gets murdered or killself. So you are risking a not guilty with about the same probability as a DP being ultimately carried out, and most likely outcome is the same as he gets now (dies in prison). |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:22 AM Author: Stimulating Mental Disorder if yer #s are right why he take deal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49063119) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:51 AM Author: hateful death wish Could be he did the math differently, risk aversion to DP if he's a narcissist, didn't want to bankrupt family, genuine remorse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49063206) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 12:13 PM Author: Talented Ivory Ticket Booth there could also be nonpublic evidence that reduces his NG odds.
but the most probable answer is risk adversion. it's easy for us to say it's statistically better to roll the dice. now imagine you're a layman actually facing death. |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 12:01 PM Author: Carmine zippy address round eye risk aversion on both sides is generally how deals are made (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49063219) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 12:03 PM Author: Talented Ivory Ticket Booth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49063220) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2025 11:52 PM Author: Vigorous useless sound barrier hall didn't read many posts above this is why the death penalty is important the people who believe it is not a deterrent are wrong but even if they are right which they aren't look at what it accomplished here. it removed any hope of kohberger lucking out because he was afraid of it. without the death penalty, this is a guaranteed trial anyone who has had more than a couple jury trials, or has any common sense or erudition, understands that juries can act in really fucking irrational ways |
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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:28 AM Author: erotic people who are hurt corn cake What (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49075797) |
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Date: July 6th, 2025 1:28 PM Author: Vigorous useless sound barrier hall fulano, are you retarded? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49076256) |
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Date: July 8th, 2025 3:42 PM Author: erotic people who are hurt corn cake when I read a post of yours, yes, I become more and more retarded (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49083172) |
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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:35 PM Author: Vigorous useless sound barrier hall is that a 5th or 6th grade reply? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744833&forum_id=2...id.#49084611) |
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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:44 AM Author: Hairless resort Thread summary: The death penalty is there to keep you from using our broken appeals system and wasting everyone's time and money.
Do I have that right? |
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Date: July 6th, 2025 1:38 PM Author: Carmine zippy address round eye i'd add in.
"and given this is all the death penalty can be used for at this point in our ttt country, this alone still makes it better to have it than not have it" |