\
  The most prestigious law school admissions discussion board in the world.
BackRefresh Options Favorite

Two studies show AI benchmarks vastly overstate AI abilities

No doubt AI is groundbreaking. But maybe a little grounding ...
laughsome pontificating karate
  03/16/26
Surely it will stay this way.
beta light pistol cuckoldry
  03/16/26
AI is going to be regarded as a joke pretty soon. It basi...
unholy indigo trailer park background story
  03/16/26
when do you think that moment will come?
laughsome pontificating karate
  03/16/26
A joke that spit out the results of a legal research test I ...
spectacular translucent halford point
  03/16/26
what were you using? I use protege from LexisNexis. Sometime...
laughsome pontificating karate
  03/16/26
Latest pay version ChatGPT, forget what it's called.
spectacular translucent halford point
  03/16/26
Lmao if you’re using that Lexi’s or westlaw buil...
talented market
  03/16/26
(Liberal)
shivering carnelian boistinker
  03/17/26
This just isn't true, though. You'd fire an associate that ...
chartreuse wonderful antidepressant drug
  03/17/26
A lawyer certainly shouldn't use AI as the final draft in an...
spectacular translucent halford point
  03/17/26
Yeah I obviously use it daily; it's an invaluable tool. We'...
chartreuse wonderful antidepressant drug
  03/17/26
"and it doesn't compete with midlevels even on pure-law...
Provocative Pungent Shrine
  03/17/26
Tamagotchis from 1997 were smarter than sealclubber.
chartreuse wonderful antidepressant drug
  03/17/26
...
fighting den
  03/17/26
all the models are trained to game the benchmark tests th...
drab bespoke menage foreskin
  03/16/26
i asked AI to build a mobile app and it did. that's pretty i...
Multi-colored Travel Guidebook
  03/16/26
One of the major reasons why labs are prioritizing coding/sw...
black hilarious bawdyhouse
  03/17/26
There's also another reason why they focus on coding ability...
drab bespoke menage foreskin
  03/17/26
A secret international cabal trying to make one of the few r...
Provocative Pungent Shrine
  03/17/26
Because it's a digital language machine that has no memory o...
drab bespoke menage foreskin
  03/17/26
Bc they are Engineers and just see everything as Engineering...
shivering carnelian boistinker
  03/17/26


Poast new message in this thread



Reply Favorite

Date: March 16th, 2026 6:08 PM
Author: laughsome pontificating karate

No doubt AI is groundbreaking. But maybe a little grounding is in order.

Carnegie Mellon study. AI benchmarks so narrowly defined that they only represent 7.6% of all occupational tasks. Benchmarks are disconnected from high-value labor tasks.

https://x.com/rohanpaul_ai/status/2033450821850222811?s=46

Alibaba study. Tested code over course of 8 months. Vast majority broke down over time despite initially passing quality.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5846529&forum_id=2...id.#49749191)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 16th, 2026 11:23 PM
Author: beta light pistol cuckoldry

Surely it will stay this way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5846529&forum_id=2...id.#49749985)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 16th, 2026 6:11 PM
Author: unholy indigo trailer park background story

AI is going to be regarded as a joke pretty soon.

It basically has the same value as Excel

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5846529&forum_id=2...id.#49749196)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 16th, 2026 11:17 PM
Author: laughsome pontificating karate

when do you think that moment will come?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5846529&forum_id=2...id.#49749968)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 16th, 2026 11:20 PM
Author: spectacular translucent halford point

A joke that spit out the results of a legal research test I gave it in 30 seconds that was much better than anything I'd get from a junior associate after days of research.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5846529&forum_id=2...id.#49749973)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 16th, 2026 11:26 PM
Author: laughsome pontificating karate

what were you using? I use protege from LexisNexis. Sometimes it's very solid and other times not so much. I wouldn't say it's anywhere near as game changing as AI has been for programmers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5846529&forum_id=2...id.#49749989)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 16th, 2026 11:30 PM
Author: spectacular translucent halford point

Latest pay version ChatGPT, forget what it's called.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5846529&forum_id=2...id.#49749997)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 16th, 2026 11:36 PM
Author: talented market

Lmao if you’re using that Lexi’s or westlaw built in AI bullshit. ChatGPT can dominate that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5846529&forum_id=2...id.#49750004)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 17th, 2026 10:57 AM
Author: shivering carnelian boistinker

(Liberal)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5846529&forum_id=2...id.#49750662)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 17th, 2026 12:29 AM
Author: chartreuse wonderful antidepressant drug

This just isn't true, though. You'd fire an associate that gave you the equivalent of a hallucination on 2 occasions (assuming one prior discovery and warning). If the circumstances were unlucky for the associate, you might fire without warning. Whatever's going on with this -- it was asserted to me in 2024 or so that this was a trivially easy thing to fix, and that is obviously just not the case -- yes it gets blown out of proportion sometimes ("haha AI is useless/worthless"), but it is a huge deal practically.

Hallucinations aside, you sometimes just get point-missing or wrong analyses. This is something you also sometimes see from flesh-and-blood associates (particularly summer associates, which I no-joke stopped hiring because of AI), but it's not good.

The reality is that AI is currently a very real current competitor of SAs on legal issues. The integration isn't there for facts yet, and it doesn't compete with midlevels even on pure-law yet. Now who knows what the future holds....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5846529&forum_id=2...id.#49750100)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 17th, 2026 10:25 AM
Author: spectacular translucent halford point

A lawyer certainly shouldn't use AI as the final draft in an area of the law he doesn't know about, and of course you should double-check its work. It can be hit and miss. But the hits are a lot more common than the misses after the ChatGPT paid version release last month. In my research, it actually said at times "I know this isn't exactly the kind of case you were looking for, but ..." and didn't hallucinate at all.

The work product it gave me was simply way too good to not at least allow it to try to take a crack at any legal project within its areas of competence. What do you have to lose? It's freaking 20 bucks a month and spits out great work in 30 seconds.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5846529&forum_id=2...id.#49750574)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 17th, 2026 11:57 AM
Author: chartreuse wonderful antidepressant drug

Yeah I obviously use it daily; it's an invaluable tool. We're talking about the incredibly high bar of meaningful labor replacement.

On that front, I have way, way more doubts about integration than I do about raw intelligence. Why the fuck will it not take my site logins and do database scrapes?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5846529&forum_id=2...id.#49750873)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 17th, 2026 10:30 AM
Author: Provocative Pungent Shrine

"and it doesn't compete with midlevels even on pure-law yet."

Two years ago it couldn't compete with a reasonably smart college student with access to a library. Four years ago it was dumber than sealclubber.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5846529&forum_id=2...id.#49750590)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 17th, 2026 11:54 AM
Author: chartreuse wonderful antidepressant drug

Tamagotchis from 1997 were smarter than sealclubber.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5846529&forum_id=2...id.#49750863)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 17th, 2026 10:27 AM
Author: fighting den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5846529&forum_id=2...id.#49750581)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 16th, 2026 11:21 PM
Author: drab bespoke menage foreskin

all the models are trained to game the benchmark tests

they're completely meaningless

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5846529&forum_id=2...id.#49749980)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 16th, 2026 11:38 PM
Author: Multi-colored Travel Guidebook

i asked AI to build a mobile app and it did. that's pretty incredible imo. when it made mistakes it fixed them on its own.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5846529&forum_id=2...id.#49750013)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 17th, 2026 12:23 AM
Author: black hilarious bawdyhouse

One of the major reasons why labs are prioritizing coding/swe (in addition to being a relatively easy revenue source) is that they intend to use the models for AI research. Deep learning is almost entirely an empirical field with a thin amount of theoretical justification for architecture and training regimes, so the ability to rapidly test new systems is essential. If SWE agents can provide plausible architecture ideas and implement them (or test out a variety of ideas specified by human programmers), the model iteration loop becomes much faster. Not to mention the total training compute deployment in a few years will be orders of magnitude what it is currently, which will decrease large scale training run time substantially. The point isn’t that the models are getting substantially better on all tasks currently. it’s that they improving extremely rapidly on the tasks needed for model self improvement.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5846529&forum_id=2...id.#49750077)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 17th, 2026 10:45 AM
Author: drab bespoke menage foreskin

There's also another reason why they focus on coding ability no bonus points for guessing that one too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5846529&forum_id=2...id.#49750623)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 17th, 2026 10:48 AM
Author: Provocative Pungent Shrine

A secret international cabal trying to make one of the few remaining things the US is legitimately better at than the rest of the world useless?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5846529&forum_id=2...id.#49750630)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 17th, 2026 11:01 AM
Author: drab bespoke menage foreskin

Because it's a digital language machine that has no memory of its past actions and no world-modeling capabilities and there are only so many things that this kind of "machine" can do. Coding is one of the only monetizable tasks in this category

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5846529&forum_id=2...id.#49750682)



Reply Favorite

Date: March 17th, 2026 10:56 AM
Author: shivering carnelian boistinker

Bc they are Engineers and just see everything as Engineering. When you’ve got a hammer, the world looks like nails.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5846529&forum_id=2...id.#49750656)