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Date: April 30th, 2021 9:48 AM Author: Stirring Depressive As A and B were driving in the X area, they passed a car driven by C and containing D as a passenger. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4823221&forum_id=2...id.#42376133) |
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Date: April 30th, 2021 11:57 AM Author: titillating new version temple "C was seen driving in the X area, with D as a passenger, by both A and B."
(no one gives a fuck whether A and B were driving or doing a standing 69 at the time they saw these faggots) |
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Date: April 30th, 2021 12:01 PM Author: Arrogant Grizzly Native Roommate they do if its an auto case. Contrib or comparative play a role potentially. Better to keep it clean.
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Date: April 30th, 2021 2:10 PM Author: Vigorous Hell Fanboi Your sentence doesn't even say that A and B saw C and D, just that they passed them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4823221&forum_id=2...id.#42377665) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2021 12:40 PM Author: chartreuse state As A and B were driving in the X area, they passed a car driven by C which contained D as a passenger. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4823221&forum_id=2...id.#42386999) |
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Date: February 25th, 2022 1:42 PM Author: mischievous sneaky criminal office Subject: Quick fixxx As A and B were driving in X, they passed a car driven by C containing D as a passenger.
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Date: April 30th, 2021 9:52 AM Author: Nighttime legal warrant casino “As A and B were driving in the X area, they passed a car driven by C. D was a passenger in C’s car at the time.”
Would break up the sentences. Your original sentence isn’t terrible though. |
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Date: April 30th, 2021 9:55 AM Author: Stirring Depressive i thought about breaking it up -- it worse because it puts emphasis on "D was a passenger in C’s car at this time" -- which is a minor detail.
it doesn't really matter whether C or D is the driver. |
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Date: April 30th, 2021 10:03 AM Author: Stirring Depressive C and D are both involved. I continue to use the term "C's car" for clarity (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4823221&forum_id=2...id.#42376201) |
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Date: April 30th, 2021 11:51 AM Author: titillating new version temple "at this time"
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Date: April 30th, 2021 9:54 AM Author: Arrogant Grizzly Native Roommate Need to clarify at some point whether A or B were actually driving. Or were they in two separate cars, both of which passed C. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4823221&forum_id=2...id.#42376155) |
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Date: April 30th, 2021 9:55 AM Author: Nighttime legal warrant casino Yeah I just worked with the isolated sentence in question b/c I didn’t know what the surrounding sentences are like. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4823221&forum_id=2...id.#42376160) |
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Date: April 30th, 2021 10:04 AM Author: Arrogant Grizzly Native Roommate You can do it in another sentence, but it's going to be important to be clear who was driving in the passing car. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4823221&forum_id=2...id.#42376205) |
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Date: April 30th, 2021 9:58 AM Author: violent faggot firefighter point As A and B were driving separately in the X area, they passed a car driven by C which contained D as a passenger. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4823221&forum_id=2...id.#42376174) |
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Date: April 30th, 2021 9:59 AM Author: shimmering piazza This suggestion isn't meant to be used word for word, just generally to give you the right idea on how to handle this sort of thing, please develop as part of an exercise in your own development as a lawyer. Really need to break this into clauses that explain everything.
As A and B were driving in the X area, they passed a car driven by C and containing D as a passenger.
WHEREAS A, B, C, and D are human persons domiciled in Jurisdiction Y
WHEREAS X is a certain area in Jurisdiction Y
WHEREAS A, B, and C are legally authorized to operate motor vehicles ("cars" and each individual such vehicle a "car")
WHEREAS on that certain date, A, B, and C were operating cars.
WHEREAS on that certain date, D was a passenger in the car operated by C.
Now, therefore be it resolved, on that certain date, the aforementioned cars traversed on intersecting paths in Area X.
[I assume by "passed" you mean "passed" as in "they passed by each other while headed in different directions," revise if you mean they were going the same way and A/B's cars passed/overtook C's car.]
Please handle and recirculate, thanks. |
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As A was driving, they passed ... |
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Date: April 30th, 2021 10:55 AM Author: Arousing space newt Each of A and B were driving in AREA. They both passed a car driven by C with D as a passenger. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4823221&forum_id=2...id.#42376456) |
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Date: April 30th, 2021 11:05 AM Author: Crystalline Motley Potus A and B passed a car driven by C, who was transporting D as a passenger, as they drove through the X area. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4823221&forum_id=2...id.#42376505) |
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Date: April 30th, 2021 11:07 AM Author: Curious coral university sound barrier two people, a & b, drove past c driving with d in his car. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4823221&forum_id=2...id.#42376517) |
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Date: April 30th, 2021 11:13 AM Author: citrine useless codepig lay C and his passenger D were traveling in X area. A overtook and passed them. B overtook and passed them too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4823221&forum_id=2...id.#42376555) |
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Date: April 30th, 2021 11:19 AM Author: Greedy Plaza As A and B were driving in the X area, they passed a car driven by C, which contained D as a passenger. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4823221&forum_id=2...id.#42376600) |
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Date: April 30th, 2021 11:24 AM Author: Lilac pea-brained location boiling water Haven’t read any of the replies, so someone else may have made the same suggestion, but I’d go with:
While driving in the X area, A & B passed a car containing C (driver) and D (passenger). |
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Date: April 30th, 2021 11:27 AM Author: Mentally impaired stag film hairy legs This was basically gromjoh's poast above except his was more concise. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4823221&forum_id=2...id.#42376665) |
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Date: April 30th, 2021 11:33 AM Author: shimmering piazza Did you try the hydro hack? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4823221&forum_id=2...id.#42376699) |
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Date: April 30th, 2021 11:41 AM Author: shimmering piazza You should drink more water, you're probably dehydrated. This will, among other things, improve cognitive function and therefore improve your writing. While you're at it also check your posture I bet you're slouching right now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4823221&forum_id=2...id.#42376746) |
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Date: April 30th, 2021 1:17 PM Author: Pale Sexy Set Just write in the active voice with short simple sentences, subject verb object. Not hard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4823221&forum_id=2...id.#42377389) |
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Date: April 30th, 2021 1:16 PM Author: Pale Sexy Set A and B saw C driving in X (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4823221&forum_id=2...id.#42377381) |
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Date: April 30th, 2021 1:28 PM Author: dashing fighting brethren lodge andy and brad were driving around brooklyn when they passed carl and dave in their car.
this doesn't define who is driving and who is riding though.
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Date: April 30th, 2021 3:39 PM Author: excitant jap crackhouse Shitty writing is putting too much into one sentence. A and B were driving in the X area. [query: are they both driving separate cars?] C driving D passed them. |
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Date: April 30th, 2021 8:29 PM Author: Cerise exhilarant alpha gas station A and C, drivers, were in different cars, driving through area X, and with them were B and D, passengers; B was with A while D was with C; A and B passed by C and D. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4823221&forum_id=2...id.#42379691) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2021 12:36 PM Author: shimmering piazza Where are we on this? Thank (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4823221&forum_id=2...id.#42386977) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2022 10:06 AM Author: Adventurous bearded black woman As A and B were driving in the X area, they passed a car driven by C in which D was a passenger. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4823221&forum_id=2...id.#44008916) |
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Date: February 25th, 2022 1:44 PM Author: titillating new version temple OP, does this help? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4823221&forum_id=2...id.#44032743) |
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Date: June 22nd, 2022 9:32 AM Author: concupiscible green coffee pot stead i don't think anyone reads shitlaw shitpaper so it doesn't matter. aren't state court judges borderline retarded? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4823221&forum_id=2...id.#44722512) |
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Date: April 19th, 2026 12:23 PM Author: Pet Relief Area (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4823221&forum_id=2...id.#49827186) |
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Date: April 19th, 2026 12:42 PM Author: UN peacekeeper "and containing D as" -> "in which D was", otherwise fine (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4823221&forum_id=2...id.#49827205) |
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Date: April 19th, 2026 1:15 PM Author: hmmm i think weather is fraudlies Lots of helpful suggestions in this thread but I’m not sure we’ve got it figured out just yet. Let’s put a pin in it and move on. OP: what’s the next sentence? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4823221&forum_id=2...id.#49827228) |
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Date: April 19th, 2026 2:57 PM Author: Pet Relief Area (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4823221&forum_id=2...id.#49827363) |