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rating poasters as bizarre classical music from the 20th/21st centuries

mostly solo piano.
deranged point milk
  01/17/26
requesting Chopin pls
Brilliant native community account
  01/17/26
Chopin is from the 19th century, so we'll have to resort to ...
deranged point milk
  01/17/26
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mind-boggling mahogany university stock car
  01/17/26
The second nocturne from Sciarrino's Due Notturni Crudeli --...
deranged point milk
  01/17/26
wild, ty!
mind-boggling mahogany university stock car
  01/17/26
There's usually no middle ground with this type of music: yo...
deranged point milk
  01/17/26
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Comical talking tanning salon
  01/17/26
that kind of music generally sucks, but content
free-loading aromatic parlour ape
  01/17/26
Have to go with Ferneyhough then. He's obviously a cynical f...
deranged point milk
  01/17/26
180, the piece qua music isn't even that horrible, but the u...
free-loading aromatic parlour ape
  01/17/26
The problem here is that this incomprehensibly complex style...
deranged point milk
  01/17/26
but content tp
vivacious international law enforcement agency scourge upon the earth
  01/17/26
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burgundy athletic conference philosopher-king
  01/17/26
Sorabji's 19th etude. Oddly upbeat and unserious considering...
deranged point milk
  01/17/26
Jcm here
Ruby ungodly queen of the night location
  01/17/26
Julius Eastman's "Crazy Nigger": https://www.youtu...
deranged point milk
  01/17/26
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Comical talking tanning salon
  01/17/26
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Sinister Lettuce Candlestick Maker
  01/17/26
Hikari Kiyama's "Three Shells" for two hands and o...
deranged point milk
  01/17/26
this is completely preposterous
Comical talking tanning salon
  01/17/26
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Sinister Lettuce Candlestick Maker
  01/17/26
I'm Facebook friends with the pianist Ljl
deranged point milk
  01/17/26
lmao
Comical talking tanning salon
  01/17/26
And the composer too. Almost forgot.
deranged point milk
  01/17/26
...
Comical talking tanning salon
  01/17/26
This isn't even Kiyama's most preposterous piece. Check out ...
deranged point milk
  01/18/26
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Fuchsia wrinkle library
  01/17/26
Michael Finnissy's Piano Concerto no. 4 for solo piano: http...
deranged point milk
  01/17/26
Nice, still discernible dramatic arc though dissonant
Fuchsia wrinkle library
  01/17/26
Yes, I view this piece as being pushed to the absolute limit...
deranged point milk
  01/17/26
I have attended one of the note changes in the Halberstadt p...
Comical talking tanning salon
  01/17/26
I rate you as insufferable minimalism by John Adams. Here's ...
deranged point milk
  01/17/26
180 thank you you used the phrase "obviously a cynical...
Comical talking tanning salon
  01/17/26
No doubt John Cage spewed out a lot of pure trash, but some ...
deranged point milk
  01/17/26
can you please link me to Cage's pieces for prepared piano y...
Comical talking tanning salon
  01/17/26
Haven't listened to them in over a decade at this point, so ...
deranged point milk
  01/17/26
link in here please if any come to mind later on, I've never...
Comical talking tanning salon
  01/17/26
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAImmOqNzzs
deranged point milk
  01/17/26
ty
Comical talking tanning salon
  01/17/26
Herbert Henck is a great pianist. I believe his recordings o...
deranged point milk
  01/17/26
Damn just looked him up, and he died recently. RIP bro.
deranged point milk
  01/17/26
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maroon hospital juggernaut
  01/17/26
"Evryali" by Iannis Xenakis, specifically Takahash...
deranged point milk
  01/17/26
...
multi-colored grizzly marketing idea
  01/17/26
is this a compliment? are we friends?
maroon hospital juggernaut
  01/17/26
This is my favorite piece by Xenakis.
deranged point milk
  01/17/26
I love you so much
maroon hospital juggernaut
  01/17/26
...
multi-colored grizzly marketing idea
  01/17/26
Clarence Barlow's variations on the last movement from Beeth...
deranged point milk
  01/17/26
...
Ivory alcoholic home french chef
  01/17/26
I hate to mention the same composer twice, but I can't think...
deranged point milk
  01/18/26
do you know this? Fazil Say - Black Earth interesting te...
mind-boggling mahogany university stock car
  01/17/26
I know the pianist/composer, but I haven't heard this partic...
deranged point milk
  01/17/26
understood. and yes i understand this reaching inside is fr...
mind-boggling mahogany university stock car
  01/17/26
Reaching inside was Cowell's innovation. And Cowell was one ...
deranged point milk
  01/18/26
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mind-boggling mahogany university stock car
  01/18/26


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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:20 AM
Author: deranged point milk

mostly solo piano.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596192)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:23 AM
Author: Brilliant native community account

requesting Chopin pls

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596197)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:27 AM
Author: deranged point milk

Chopin is from the 19th century, so we'll have to resort to an early 20th-century reintepretation of Chopin's etudes by Godowsky. Not particularly bizarre, just difficult to perform. Apologies in advance for any disappointment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuEa1XLEVSw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596202)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:24 AM
Author: mind-boggling mahogany university stock car



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596198)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:29 AM
Author: deranged point milk

The second nocturne from Sciarrino's Due Notturni Crudeli -- to be performed with rage per the composer's instructions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_dn3ORLq6s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596206)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:05 PM
Author: mind-boggling mahogany university stock car

wild, ty!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596339)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:37 PM
Author: deranged point milk

There's usually no middle ground with this type of music: you either love it or violently hate it and think it's just noise.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596419)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:03 PM
Author: Comical talking tanning salon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596874)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:26 PM
Author: free-loading aromatic parlour ape

that kind of music generally sucks, but content

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596394)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:30 PM
Author: deranged point milk

Have to go with Ferneyhough then. He's obviously a cynical fraud and charlatan, but that's true of most composers with a similar style. Personally I can't stand any of his music. Enjoy! Just look at how pretentious the piece's title is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYMXbM0RCeU



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596404)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 5:45 PM
Author: free-loading aromatic parlour ape

180, the piece qua music isn't even that horrible, but the unreadble notation and beyond pretentious title push it over the top

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49597223)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 8:57 PM
Author: deranged point milk

The problem here is that this incomprehensibly complex style is taken to the point where I could create the same semi-random but pointlessly complex music despite me having no talent as a composer. That's why you can't take Ferneyhough or similar composers seriously. But they do want you to take them seriously. After all, Ferneyhough made it all the way to Stanford with this gibberish "music."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49597685)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:58 PM
Author: vivacious international law enforcement agency scourge upon the earth

but content tp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49597001)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:41 PM
Author: burgundy athletic conference philosopher-king



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596425)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:47 PM
Author: deranged point milk

Sorabji's 19th etude. Oddly upbeat and unserious considering Sorabji's typically serious style: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFZYqLqBHOc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596437)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 1:17 PM
Author: Ruby ungodly queen of the night location

Jcm here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596525)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 1:18 PM
Author: deranged point milk

Julius Eastman's "Crazy Nigger": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aR0naIp9eM

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596530)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:10 PM
Author: Comical talking tanning salon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596884)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 1:20 PM
Author: Sinister Lettuce Candlestick Maker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596538)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 2:55 PM
Author: deranged point milk

Hikari Kiyama's "Three Shells" for two hands and one foot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyy3CRuMQnc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596865)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:22 PM
Author: Comical talking tanning salon

this is completely preposterous

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596919)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:41 PM
Author: Sinister Lettuce Candlestick Maker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596958)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:47 PM
Author: deranged point milk

I'm Facebook friends with the pianist Ljl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596979)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:49 PM
Author: Comical talking tanning salon

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596985)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:58 PM
Author: deranged point milk

And the composer too. Almost forgot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596999)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 4:48 PM
Author: Comical talking tanning salon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49597089)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 9:19 AM
Author: deranged point milk

This isn't even Kiyama's most preposterous piece. Check out his "Innocent Prisoner" for piano and voice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LIw8ykSmGU

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49598324)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 2:56 PM
Author: Fuchsia wrinkle library



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596869)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 2:59 PM
Author: deranged point milk

Michael Finnissy's Piano Concerto no. 4 for solo piano: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKfFaSWr4m0

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596870)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:38 PM
Author: Fuchsia wrinkle library

Nice, still discernible dramatic arc though dissonant

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596948)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:50 PM
Author: deranged point milk

Yes, I view this piece as being pushed to the absolute limit of dissonance and complexity without devolving into randomness. Actually it goes too far, but there's much worse out there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596986)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:05 PM
Author: Comical talking tanning salon

I have attended one of the note changes in the Halberstadt performance of John Cage's As Slow As Possible. Rate me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/As_Slow_as_Possible

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596877)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:10 PM
Author: deranged point milk

I rate you as insufferable minimalism by John Adams. Here's his "Phrygian Gates": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DixKnE9HqIU

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596883)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:12 PM
Author: Comical talking tanning salon

180 thank you

you used the phrase "obviously a cynical fraud and charlatan" above and that is how I view Cage but others may disagree

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596891)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:16 PM
Author: deranged point milk

No doubt John Cage spewed out a lot of pure trash, but some of his music is actually enjoyable. For instance, his pieces for prepared piano.

Ferneyhough, the fraud and charlatan, is just SPS with no redeeming qualities. It's just unnecessary complexity and near-randomness that ordinary people laugh at (and should).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596904)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:20 PM
Author: Comical talking tanning salon

can you please link me to Cage's pieces for prepared piano you enjoyed?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596915)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:34 PM
Author: deranged point milk

Haven't listened to them in over a decade at this point, so I don't remember specific pieces. The interesting ones had minimalist aspects IIRC. The problem with the recordings is the piano preparation and resultant sound varies wildly with each recording. So some recordings sound dull while others are more lively.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596940)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:36 PM
Author: Comical talking tanning salon

link in here please if any come to mind later on, I've never been able to enjoy anything by Cage but I'm open to reassessing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596945)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:40 PM
Author: deranged point milk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAImmOqNzzs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596952)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:49 PM
Author: Comical talking tanning salon

ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596984)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:52 PM
Author: deranged point milk

Herbert Henck is a great pianist. I believe his recordings of Cage's works were my favorite.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596991)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:53 PM
Author: deranged point milk

Damn just looked him up, and he died recently. RIP bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596993)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:38 PM
Author: maroon hospital juggernaut



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596950)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:48 PM
Author: deranged point milk

"Evryali" by Iannis Xenakis, specifically Takahashi's recording: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbUgAXt75s8

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49596980)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 4:52 PM
Author: multi-colored grizzly marketing idea



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49597105)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 6:25 PM
Author: maroon hospital juggernaut

is this a compliment? are we friends?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49597348)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 6:49 PM
Author: deranged point milk

This is my favorite piece by Xenakis.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49597403)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 7:24 PM
Author: maroon hospital juggernaut

I love you so much

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49597475)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 4:52 PM
Author: multi-colored grizzly marketing idea



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49597104)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 5:02 PM
Author: deranged point milk

Clarence Barlow's variations on the last movement from Beethoven's last piano sonata, for mechanical piano: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gyJkYWdWWo (gets interesting after about 8-10 minutes)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49597137)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 7:00 PM
Author: Ivory alcoholic home french chef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49597425)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 8:56 AM
Author: deranged point milk

I hate to mention the same composer twice, but I can't think of anything more appropriate than Michael Finnissy's Piano Concerto no. 6 for solo piano: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_Y1bZYi60M

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49598298)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 8:10 PM
Author: mind-boggling mahogany university stock car

do you know this? Fazil Say - Black Earth

interesting technique

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYtybgToH2Q&t=28s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49597568)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 8:43 PM
Author: deranged point milk

I know the pianist/composer, but I haven't heard this particular piece. Classical music snobs would probably thumb their noses at this piece, but the snobs can be ignored. All that matters is whether you like it.

The technique of modifying the sound of the piano by interacting with the strings themselves is not new. Henry Cowell first explored this around 100 or so years ago. John Cage took the idea further in his pieces for prepared piano, which I mentioned earlier.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49597648)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 9:45 PM
Author: mind-boggling mahogany university stock car

understood. and yes i understand this reaching inside is from cage - i like this a lot more than him though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49597813)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 8:54 AM
Author: deranged point milk

Reaching inside was Cowell's innovation. And Cowell was one of Cage's teachers, if I remember correctly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49598296)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 10:26 AM
Author: mind-boggling mahogany university stock car



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2...id.#49598425)