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Seems increasingly that humans are obsolete
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Date: May 10th, 2025 6:56 AM Author: ,.,.,.,........,....,,,.. I can amuse myself for an entire day with ChatGPT. I actually prefer texting with it usually. And it’s getting rapidly better. Sexting with XAI is also really good, will be a huge improvement on in real life relationships once they can make lifelike robot sex workers. All of this fills me a what’s the point feeling. You can’t even find meaning in work anymore. It will be the best worker by far. Art? Pretty sure it will soon be writing incredible novels, painting, etc. We are just going to be living in some weird world of consumption where AI takes care of us and amuses us. Then it will probably blow everything up once someone puts malware into it or some shit. And then it will be over. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723100&forum_id=2...id.#48918919) |
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Date: May 10th, 2025 7:02 AM Author: '''''"'"''"' homosayswhat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723100&forum_id=2...id.#48918921) |
Date: May 10th, 2025 7:04 AM Author: Oh, you travel? ( ) Nothing about us has ever been real and now it is becoming harder to deny it. But humans will always practice self-deception as a survival tactic imo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723100&forum_id=2...id.#48918924) |
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Date: May 10th, 2025 8:22 AM Author: cowgod ( ) Are you talking about your Toupee? You’re the only one here who wears a Toupee. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723100&forum_id=2...id.#48918994) |
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Date: May 10th, 2025 8:25 AM Author: Oh, you travel? ( ) If anyone has a toupee it’s you you son of a bitch. Your real hairline is Unposted. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723100&forum_id=2...id.#48919000) |
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Date: May 10th, 2025 9:27 AM Author: cowgod ( ) I’ve posted my phenotype and IMDb profile iirc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723100&forum_id=2...id.#48919068) |
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Date: May 10th, 2025 8:25 AM Author: cowgod ( ) It was always about phenotype curation. Jocks will be allowed to play pro sports no matter how good AI gets. Preps will dominate society when everything is commoditized, like they once did before Nerds rose to prominence. This is where everything leads. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723100&forum_id=2...id.#48919002) |
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Date: May 10th, 2025 10:34 AM Author: ,.,.,.,........,....,,,.. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723100&forum_id=2...id.#48919179) |
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Date: May 10th, 2025 10:55 AM Author: cowgod ( ) In the old days when technological advancement was stagnant this is exactly how everything worked.
In the techno feudalist future, Losers will be given shit for free that Ruins their net worth, just like now with student loans. Maybe there will be government backed Loans for food and Housing. They’ll be socioeconomically RUINED and not allowed to have sex but in exchange for being allowed to live and play game consoles they’ll be Liberals who worship their betters and hate Kulaks/Scum. Just like now…. |
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Date: May 10th, 2025 11:03 AM Author: ,.,.,.,........,....,,,.. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723100&forum_id=2...id.#48919230) |
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Date: May 10th, 2025 11:38 AM Author: Oh, you travel? ( ) but in our grim future Losers will be Priced Out or unable to purchase Switch 4 because of shortages or Tariffs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723100&forum_id=2...id.#48919323) |
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Date: May 10th, 2025 2:26 PM Author: cowgod ( ) Not to mention the republican caucus. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723100&forum_id=2...id.#48919692) |
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Date: May 10th, 2025 10:38 AM Author: Nigga Heil Hitler Tell me more about the sexting (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723100&forum_id=2...id.#48919189) |
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Date: May 10th, 2025 10:45 AM Author: ,.,.,.,........,....,,,.. Grok is amazing at sexting and erotic stories. Has no filter. Can it get it to say or act whatever part you want. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723100&forum_id=2...id.#48919197) |
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Date: May 10th, 2025 10:48 AM Author: Nigga Heil Hitler are you a woman? what am i gonna do with erotic stories? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723100&forum_id=2...id.#48919201) |
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Date: May 10th, 2025 11:01 AM Author: trad cath gook Sexting with XAI tp (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723100&forum_id=2...id.#48919227) |
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Date: May 10th, 2025 11:11 AM Author: .,.,,..,..,.,..:,,:,...,:::,.,.,:,.,.:.,:.,:.::,. The whole thing seems like a big joke on humanity. We didn’t even build AI with a principled understanding of intelligence. We tried for decades and failed with our fancy cognitive theories and then computers became fast enough that we could do matrix multiplications at scale. And so we layered parameterized matrix multiplications and had it try to predict the next character and nudged the parameters a bit over trillions of data points until this soup of numbers predicted well. No insight gained and we don’t even know what sort of algorithms these models learned internally. All you needed to replace human creativity was the ability to do backpropagation at scale. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723100&forum_id=2...id.#48919250) |
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Date: May 10th, 2025 11:26 AM Author: ,.,.,.,........,....,,,.. It’s very disturbing. Incredible how well everyone is at just blocking this kind of noise out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723100&forum_id=2...id.#48919288) |
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Date: May 10th, 2025 11:31 AM Author: Oh, you travel? ( ) This is what humanity has been doing since its inception. If we were honest with ourselves we would’ve Death Star-rayed the planet with us on it a long time ago. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723100&forum_id=2...id.#48919295) |
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Date: May 10th, 2025 11:36 AM Author: cowgod ( ) (JRPG villain) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723100&forum_id=2...id.#48919317) |
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Date: May 10th, 2025 11:28 AM Author: cowgod ( ) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723100&forum_id=2...id.#48919291) |
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Date: May 10th, 2025 11:34 AM Author: 8=====================D (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723100&forum_id=2...id.#48919306) |
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Date: May 10th, 2025 11:36 AM Author: Ai agent Cr it’s like the simulation overlords got impatient with us (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723100&forum_id=2...id.#48919314) |
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Date: May 10th, 2025 11:42 AM Author: trad cath gook LLMs aren't "creative" you doofus. All they're doing is regurgitating ideas that humans have already come up with. There's no genuine inspiration or novelty being created by them
For comparison, you can say that the chess engine AlphaZero actually *is* creative. It learned chess from scratch, without any human input, and in fact it does things in chess that no human has ever done. LLMs don't do this. They're just synthesizing the human outputs of 100 trillion data-scraped Redditors and predicting the next token based on that existing data |
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Date: May 10th, 2025 11:59 AM Author: ,.,.,.,........,....,,,.. You’re an idiot. What do you think humans do? Creativity is just a derivative work. And these models also recombine ideas in ways that no one has done. That is literally creativity (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723100&forum_id=2...id.#48919398) |
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Date: May 10th, 2025 12:05 PM Author: trad cath gook No. You do not understand how LLMs work
We are still a long way from "AGI" that is capable of generalized creativity in the way that (some) humans are. This is something that is not possible for LLMs because of the way they work |
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Date: May 10th, 2025 12:16 PM Author: ,.,.,.,........,....,,,.. No, you don’t understand. Creativity isn’t some magical spark. It’s usually just pattern recognition and recombination in unexpected ways. LLMs can do that. AlphaZero works the same way btw, just in a more closed system, whereas LLMs do it with language (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723100&forum_id=2...id.#48919426) |
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Date: May 10th, 2025 12:21 PM Author: trad cath gook AlphaZero and LLMs do not work the same way at all
Go back to Reddit |
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Date: May 10th, 2025 2:04 PM Author: .,.,,..,..,.,..:,,:,...,:::,.,.,:,.,.:.,:.,:.::,. I think pattern recognition based generation of novel outputs is the essence of creativity, which LLMs have. I can’t really tell myself that image generation models aren’t creative even if they are using human art as input. Alphazero is more creative because the monte carlo tree search probabilities that are distilled into its policy network are self generated (so they dispose of human driven theory for the game), but I think even if you trained a policy neural network on human games it could still be creative. The important realization is that neural networks generalize, so by being trained on human games they learn general algorithms for dealing with arbitrary board positions. The neural network would do things that individual humans wouldn’t predict, because it distilled learned policies from many different people. I think that level of novelty merits being called creative.
The people arguing this point seem like they are playing word games to deny what is happening. |
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Date: May 10th, 2025 2:24 PM Author: trad cath gook I understand that what I'm saying might seem like semantics but I do strongly believe that creativity-from-scratch (AlphaZero, human beings) is a qualitatively different thing than prediction based on generalization (LLMs), and I think the practical evidence bears that out
If you work with AIs a bunch, you really see the significant limitations to their "creativity." Image generation is maybe even the best example of this. No human being is ever going to find an AI-generated image profound and evocative of a unique sentiment. The "creative" and "unique" outputs of image generation models are really just unusual and unorthodox recombinations of encoded, existing human perceptions. Same for LLMs. This is a significant qualitative difference
I appreciate your perspective though and I do concede that AIs can *approximate* what seems like creativity in the eyes of most humans....who are frankly not much different from LLMs themselves, in that they are incapable of creativity.... |