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Finished Bukowski's Ham on Rye (1982)

I finished Bukowski’s Ham on Rye (1982), which is appa...
Razzle-dazzle Skinny Woman Native
  06/17/25
Nobody cares. Bukowski sucks and you’re a retarded fag...
outnumbered idiotic cuckoldry
  06/17/25
This is exactly what Bukowski would say.
galvanic bipolar property voyeur
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Razzle-dazzle Skinny Woman Native
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Scarlet parlor pistol
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Puce mildly autistic menage affirmative action
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Ultramarine locus
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This is just what we needed the boring thoughts of an idioti...
Bearded Twinkling Senate Personal Credit Line
  06/17/25
whoa crr
Opaque Associate Internal Respiration
  06/17/25
MPA is highly supportive of this because he is low iq and je...
outnumbered idiotic cuckoldry
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The distinction between my response and his might be that he...
Fear-inspiring appetizing piazza
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Razzle-dazzle Skinny Woman Native
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id like some elaboration here
Scarlet parlor pistol
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Mother was both nurturing but also extremely passive aggress...
Razzle-dazzle Skinny Woman Native
  06/17/25
“I’m a kike!” How groundbreaking. You m...
outnumbered idiotic cuckoldry
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That’s a long time to eat a sandwich.
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Date: June 17th, 2025 6:21 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Skinny Woman Native

I finished Bukowski’s Ham on Rye (1982), which is apparently his most famous novel along with his first, Post Office. It is a semi-autobiographical novel about his youth - born in Germany, raised in Los Angeles, always a poor outsider, wisecracking and fast talking, his loves were alcohol and writing. He developed terrible acne as a teenager which made his outsider status worse but even that was something he accepted and suffered through.

The book is lovely, an easy and flowing read. Bukowski discusses the difficulties of life and he does it in a wry, direct, honest and disarming style. One can’t help but love the guy - he’s got such a defined voice.

He states that he’s neither a misanthrope nor a misogynist in the book, and I think at least the second part is true for him - for the first, he uses alcohol to dull the pain of existence. However, Bukowski, for all his self-loathing and rawness, seemed to channel his suffering into a grudging acceptance of the human animal - ugly, dirty, and laughable, yes, but not necessarily evil. He’s disillusioned, yes, but rarely metaphysically embittered. The distinction between my response and his might be that he located suffering within fate—while I seem to locate it within betrayal, both relational and metaphysical.

I’ve read all of Bukowkski’s poetry online (https://www.best-poems.net/charles_bukowski/index.html) and will continue to read more of his works.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739087&forum_id=2...id.#49023314)



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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:17 AM
Author: outnumbered idiotic cuckoldry

Nobody cares. Bukowski sucks and you’re a retarded faggot.

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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:20 AM
Author: galvanic bipolar property voyeur

This is exactly what Bukowski would say.

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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:28 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Skinny Woman Native



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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:33 AM
Author: Scarlet parlor pistol



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Date: June 17th, 2025 8:37 AM
Author: Puce mildly autistic menage affirmative action



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Date: June 17th, 2025 8:38 AM
Author: Bisexual school cafeteria windowlicker



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Date: June 17th, 2025 8:39 AM
Author: Ultramarine locus



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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:18 AM
Author: Bearded Twinkling Senate Personal Credit Line

This is just what we needed the boring thoughts of an idiotic faggot. Kill yourself.

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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:18 AM
Author: Opaque Associate Internal Respiration

whoa crr

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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:19 AM
Author: outnumbered idiotic cuckoldry

MPA is highly supportive of this because he is low iq and jewish

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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:26 AM
Author: Fear-inspiring appetizing piazza

The distinction between my response and his might be that he located suffering within fate—while I seem to locate it within betrayal, both relational and metaphysical.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739087&forum_id=2...id.#49023382)



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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:28 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Skinny Woman Native



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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:34 AM
Author: Scarlet parlor pistol

id like some elaboration here

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Date: June 17th, 2025 7:41 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Skinny Woman Native

Mother was both nurturing but also extremely passive aggressive and never respected my emotional red lines, which felt on a subconscious level, to a young child, like deep betrayal and which has warped my relationship with all women thereafter.

My philosophical pessimism and gnosticism is well documented here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739087&forum_id=2...id.#49023397)



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Date: June 17th, 2025 8:40 AM
Author: outnumbered idiotic cuckoldry

“I’m a kike!”

How groundbreaking. You might be the next bukowski.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5739087&forum_id=2...id.#49023457)



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Date: June 17th, 2025 10:18 AM
Author: heady very tactful theater

That’s a long time to eat a sandwich.

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Date: June 17th, 2025 11:14 AM
Author: Unhinged range



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Date: June 17th, 2025 4:39 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Skinny Woman Native



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