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🚨 Pakistan shoots down Indian passenger airline 🚨

https://www.twitter.com/BabaHakim0/status/193309346744329865...
Charismatic Kitchen Codepig
  06/12/25
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Nudist senate
  06/12/25
OP jokes but hints at a larger problem with accidents that h...
Heady Insecure Meetinghouse Mediation
  06/12/25
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Nudist senate
  06/12/25
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Unhinged Vibrant Point
  06/12/25
If captain allears had been on board it wouldnt have gone do...
Judgmental amber gaping
  06/12/25
supposedly it crashed directly into a medical school while s...
Charismatic Kitchen Codepig
  06/12/25
*white people breathing ANOTHER sigh of relief*
naked mildly autistic center
  06/12/25
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Fragrant Haunting Cruise Ship Milk
  06/12/25
wow
Unhinged Vibrant Point
  06/12/25
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mind-boggling french chef
  06/12/25
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Heady Insecure Meetinghouse Mediation
  06/12/25
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diverse pale private investor
  06/12/25
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Abusive kink-friendly public bath background story
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Swollen Bespoke Jap
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Razzle-dazzle tripping school
  06/12/25
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exciting indecent death wish
  06/12/25
Jewish guy at the very back of the plane survived for a whil...
Heady Insecure Meetinghouse Mediation
  06/12/25
not flame, i thought of going to korea on a holiday right be...
Nudist senate
  06/12/25
Thoughts and prayers
floppy base
  06/12/25
I took an Air India flight in about 2018 but I'm OK
mind-boggling french chef
  06/12/25
Don't let Koreans pilot your aircraft. At least Indians co-p...
marvelous parlor telephone
  06/12/25
Saw an Infographic recently which said India has the highest...
curious multi-billionaire really tough guy
  06/12/25
They're probably better than the men
marvelous parlor telephone
  06/12/25
yep and they brag abt it, in airports they have signs braggi...
navy beady-eyed son of senegal
  06/12/25
Almost certainly pilot error. The 787 is an exhaustively pr...
hateful aromatic police squad water buffalo
  06/12/25
Oh fuck we convince India to buy those? These "people&q...
marvelous parlor telephone
  06/12/25
yep its not like some of the guys at boeing who actually mad...
navy beady-eyed son of senegal
  06/12/25
Bro on X said the flaps appeared to be set at 0 instead of 1...
lime turdskin
  06/12/25
Doesn't necessarily mean it was pilot error but still, you k...
marvelous parlor telephone
  06/12/25
this is just like the wright brothers at kitty hawk (right u...
comical bull headed garrison halford
  06/12/25
jfc some guy in comments claims it shows the pilots retract...
mind-boggling french chef
  06/12/25
this other guy says the same thing https://x.com/PilotPoli/...
mind-boggling french chef
  06/12/25
how is this not an automated part of the takeoff?
Heady Insecure Meetinghouse Mediation
  06/12/25
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mind-boggling french chef
  06/12/25
LOL stupid fuckin jeets let's import millions more!
Submissive fluffy nibblets fanboi
  06/12/25
i don't see any birdshits. this looks like pilot error. the ...
curious multi-billionaire really tough guy
  06/12/25
JFC, motherfucker stalled almost instantly
Heady Insecure Meetinghouse Mediation
  06/12/25
Holy shit
Abnormal galvanic old irish cottage cuckold
  06/12/25
how is this a "tragedy"?
Submissive fluffy nibblets fanboi
  06/12/25
What is the exact cause of death in an accident like this? B...
Motley giraffe corn cake
  06/12/25
blunt force trauma most likely... it was an instaneous massi...
Stirring Volcanic Crater
  06/12/25
There are often some survivors in crashes like this though, ...
Motley giraffe corn cake
  06/12/25
TT your response to the death offirst officer Clive (son of ...
comical bull headed garrison halford
  06/12/25
pilot did the needful and kept these jeets out of western co...
navy beady-eyed son of senegal
  06/12/25
He probably told the pilot what was happening, but the pilot...
marvelous parlor telephone
  06/12/25
Guy from the prior flight claims nothing on the plane was wo...
lake hospital
  06/12/25
thats all their planes though, why dont they crash. they act...
navy beady-eyed son of senegal
  06/12/25
I can't believe Indians would struggle with airplane mainten...
marvelous parlor telephone
  06/12/25
stupid clickbait
Heady Insecure Meetinghouse Mediation
  06/12/25
Wow, that's insane. What a piece of shit airline these turds...
Salmon resort
  06/12/25
turns out jet fuel can melt jeets
Narrow-minded Range Legend
  06/12/25
Saar! Saar! Do not redeem the flaps Saar! Do not redeem s...
Narrow-minded Range Legend
  06/12/25
"Fuck you bloody" *conversation cuts off*
marvelous parlor telephone
  06/12/25
new angle https://x.com/JeffWCarlton/status/1933176198122...
Wine Trump Supporter Newt
  06/12/25
🚨BREAKING🚨 Audio between the pilot of Air India flight...
naked mildly autistic center
  06/12/25
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curious multi-billionaire really tough guy
  06/12/25
You can tell that's exactly what happened. Even maintenance ...
marvelous parlor telephone
  06/12/25
I'm honestly not sure if this is a joke
appetizing house
  06/12/25
not flame my pilot instructor friend did nothing but drill t...
marvelous parlor telephone
  06/12/25
The one where they crashed in the river because the copilot ...
odious genital piercing
  06/12/25
That's a really weird one for sure. It's like taking the LSA...
marvelous parlor telephone
  06/12/25
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mind-boggling french chef
  06/12/25
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vigorous queen of the night party of the first part
  06/12/25
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Swollen Bespoke Jap
  06/13/25
One passenger managed to JUMP and survive this time. https:...
Cyan ticket booth
  06/12/25
get that goy a moniker
shivering bateful office
  06/12/25
ran here when I saw this, you see him on the ground just wal...
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Date: June 12th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: Charismatic Kitchen Codepig

https://www.twitter.com/BabaHakim0/status/1933093467443298659

242 passengers; outbound to london from ahmedabad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49007641)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 5:39 AM
Author: Nudist senate

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49007649)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 6:00 AM
Author: Heady Insecure Meetinghouse Mediation

OP jokes but hints at a larger problem with accidents that happen in countries where saving face is more important that the truth, or saving lives, or any other trivial thing like that

India’s “investigation” of this crash will be an absolute farce, and in no way will any Indian be accused of anything. not the pilots, not the ATC, not the ground crews, no one

it’s those benchods from Boeing and their faulty plane

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49007676)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 6:08 AM
Author: Nudist senate

120

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49007680)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 6:55 AM
Author: Unhinged Vibrant Point



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49007712)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 6:23 PM
Author: Judgmental amber gaping

If captain allears had been on board it wouldnt have gone down like that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49009581)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 6:36 AM
Author: Charismatic Kitchen Codepig

supposedly it crashed directly into a medical school while school was in session.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49007701)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 6:38 AM
Author: naked mildly autistic center

*white people breathing ANOTHER sigh of relief*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49007704)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 6:40 AM
Author: Fragrant Haunting Cruise Ship Milk



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49007707)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 6:55 AM
Author: Unhinged Vibrant Point

wow

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49007713)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 8:00 AM
Author: mind-boggling french chef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49007773)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 8:33 AM
Author: Heady Insecure Meetinghouse Mediation



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49007819)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 9:34 AM
Author: diverse pale private investor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49007959)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 11:02 AM
Author: Abusive kink-friendly public bath background story



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008197)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 11:06 AM
Author: Swollen Bespoke Jap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008220)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 11:07 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle tripping school



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008224)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 2:35 PM
Author: exciting indecent death wish



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008806)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 6:38 AM
Author: Heady Insecure Meetinghouse Mediation

Jewish guy at the very back of the plane survived for a while and apparently was cogent enough to remark “is there a doctor on board?” before expiring

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49007705)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 6:57 AM
Author: Nudist senate

not flame, i thought of going to korea on a holiday right before that jeju air crash.

i thought the same about a sojourn in maine right before that schizo killed 30 people

i guess in this instance it was TT holding the bag this time round, hopefully that implies he inherited my curse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49007715)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 7:59 AM
Author: floppy base

Thoughts and prayers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49007771)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 8:00 AM
Author: mind-boggling french chef

I took an Air India flight in about 2018 but I'm OK

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49007774)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: marvelous parlor telephone

Don't let Koreans pilot your aircraft. At least Indians co-pilots will argue. Korean co-pilots just stay silent.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008932)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 8:15 AM
Author: curious multi-billionaire really tough guy

Saw an Infographic recently which said India has the highest number of female pilots. Something like 12%. ljl.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49007794)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 9:12 AM
Author: marvelous parlor telephone

They're probably better than the men

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49007906)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 11:06 AM
Author: navy beady-eyed son of senegal

yep and they brag abt it, in airports they have signs bragging abt it, ljl pajeets

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008216)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 9:19 AM
Author: hateful aromatic police squad water buffalo

Almost certainly pilot error. The 787 is an exhaustively proven aircraft.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49007922)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 9:20 AM
Author: marvelous parlor telephone

Oh fuck we convince India to buy those? These "people" are amazing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49007923)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 11:05 AM
Author: navy beady-eyed son of senegal

yep its not like some of the guys at boeing who actually made the plane warned that eventually these will fall out of the sky cause they are SHIT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008213)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 5:01 PM
Author: lime turdskin

Bro on X said the flaps appeared to be set at 0 instead of 15 degrees, guaranteeing a crash.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49009353)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 5:04 PM
Author: marvelous parlor telephone

Doesn't necessarily mean it was pilot error but still, you know they were arguing in the cockpit on the way down

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49009362)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 10:20 AM
Author: comical bull headed garrison halford

this is just like the wright brothers at kitty hawk (right until the end)

https://x.com/Vikasmakwana111/status/1933162059556159903

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008084)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 10:25 AM
Author: mind-boggling french chef

jfc

some guy in comments claims it shows the pilots retracted flaps instead of landing gear

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008097)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 10:59 AM
Author: mind-boggling french chef

this other guy says the same thing

https://x.com/PilotPoli/status/1933091986543886618

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008188)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 11:01 AM
Author: Heady Insecure Meetinghouse Mediation

how is this not an automated part of the takeoff?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008193)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 11:04 AM
Author: mind-boggling french chef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008206)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 11:06 AM
Author: Submissive fluffy nibblets fanboi

LOL stupid fuckin jeets

let's import millions more!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008218)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 10:32 AM
Author: curious multi-billionaire really tough guy

i don't see any birdshits. this looks like pilot error. the plane looks too slow even on the takeoff roll.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008117)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 10:34 AM
Author: Heady Insecure Meetinghouse Mediation

JFC, motherfucker stalled almost instantly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008122)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 6:22 PM
Author: Abnormal galvanic old irish cottage cuckold

Holy shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49009575)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 11:03 AM
Author: Submissive fluffy nibblets fanboi

how is this a "tragedy"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008203)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 11:07 AM
Author: Motley giraffe corn cake

What is the exact cause of death in an accident like this? Blunt force trauma? Being ripped apart by the explosion? Burning alive? Smoke inhalation?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008226)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 1:39 PM
Author: Stirring Volcanic Crater

blunt force trauma most likely... it was an instaneous massive explosion and the blast alone would definitely render you unconscious before being burned alive by jet fuel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008645)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 2:46 PM
Author: Motley giraffe corn cake

There are often some survivors in crashes like this though, which suggest many passengers probably survive the initial impact but probably succumb to fire or smoke inhalation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008867)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 11:50 AM
Author: comical bull headed garrison halford

TT your response to the death offirst officer Clive (son of Clifford) "Kunder" cousin to bollywood superstar "Vikrant" Massey?

https://www.indiatvnews.com/entertainment/news/air-india-plane-crash-who-was-clive-kunder-vikrant-massey-reacts-to-co-pilot-s-death-see-post-2025-06-12-994457

Maybe he used to fly for Loganair in scotland?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwyVWaCAD2A



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008343)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 1:55 PM
Author: navy beady-eyed son of senegal

pilot did the needful and kept these jeets out of western countries, he deserves a medal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008677)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 1:56 PM
Author: marvelous parlor telephone

He probably told the pilot what was happening, but the pilot ignored him because he comes from a lower caste.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008681)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 1:50 PM
Author: lake hospital

Guy from the prior flight claims nothing on the plane was working: https://x.com/akku92/status/1933114664923148455

Jesus, it might turn out India's flag carrier actually ran a Dreamliner into the ground to the point it couldn't take off without crashing!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008665)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 1:57 PM
Author: navy beady-eyed son of senegal

thats all their planes though, why dont they crash. they actually have a pretty good safety record, last major crash was like 10 years ago or something

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008686)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 1:58 PM
Author: marvelous parlor telephone

I can't believe Indians would struggle with airplane maintenance after watching TT encounter a small diesel engine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008687)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 1:59 PM
Author: Heady Insecure Meetinghouse Mediation

stupid clickbait

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008694)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 2:01 PM
Author: Salmon resort

Wow, that's insane. What a piece of shit airline these turds can't do anything right

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008698)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 1:53 PM
Author: Narrow-minded Range Legend

turns out jet fuel can melt jeets

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008672)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 1:54 PM
Author: Narrow-minded Range Legend

Saar! Saar! Do not redeem the flaps Saar! Do not redeem saar!!!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008676)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 2:35 PM
Author: marvelous parlor telephone

"Fuck you bloody" *conversation cuts off*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008804)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 2:33 PM
Author: Wine Trump Supporter Newt

new angle

https://x.com/JeffWCarlton/status/1933176198122639791

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008798)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 2:53 PM
Author: naked mildly autistic center

🚨BREAKING🚨 Audio between the pilot of Air India flight 171 and tower control was released.

https://x.com/TheOnlyDSC/status/1933173833214919023

heads will roll over this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008906)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 2:55 PM
Author: curious multi-billionaire really tough guy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008921)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 2:57 PM
Author: marvelous parlor telephone

You can tell that's exactly what happened. Even maintenance crews fucked up, the pilot and co-pilot were arguing with each other the whole time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49008928)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 5:07 PM
Author: appetizing house

I'm honestly not sure if this is a joke

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49009367)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 5:09 PM
Author: marvelous parlor telephone

not flame my pilot instructor friend did nothing but drill this into the heads of foreign pilots: THERE'S NO HIERARCHY IN THE COCKPIT. He played black box recordings of fatal crashes where the co-pilot said nothing and made students listen to them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49009370)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 6:41 PM
Author: odious genital piercing

The one where they crashed in the river because the copilot didn’t make a bigger deal about the fact that the snow machine / deicer wasn’t on still haunts me.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Florida_Flight_90



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49009633)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 6:42 PM
Author: marvelous parlor telephone

That's a really weird one for sure. It's like taking the LSAT and getting every question wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49009637)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 6:16 PM
Author: mind-boggling french chef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49009565)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 7:38 PM
Author: vigorous queen of the night party of the first part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49009820)



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Date: June 13th, 2025 1:53 AM
Author: Swollen Bespoke Jap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5736563&forum_id=2...id.#49011130)



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Date: June 12th, 2025 5:44 PM
Author: Cyan ticket booth

One passenger managed to JUMP and survive this time. https://www.reuters.com/world/india/survivor-air-india-crash-jumped-out-emergency-exit-police-say-2025-06-12/

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Date: June 12th, 2025 6:23 PM
Author: shivering bateful office

get that goy a moniker

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Date: June 13th, 2025 1:28 AM
Author: Hairraiser stage

ran here when I saw this, you see him on the ground just walking off? rip to all those souls but that man must feel fucking alive

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