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LIBS: I assume you all agree that this "robotaxi" shit has been a disaster, yes?
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Date: July 2nd, 2025 6:08 PM Author: To be fair (Semi-Retarded) To be fair,
You guys are all in agreement with the prevailing MSM's assessment that Tesla's "FSD" is basically a fake and gay technology... that Tesla's "Robotaxis" will flop and fail to scale or be widely adopted... and that anyone who actually believes that by 2030 there will be tens of millions of these things profitably operating without human supervision on roads all around the world is a laughably gullible retard, yes?
On a totally unrelated point, after answering those questions, please also feel free to go ahead and rate where on the "retarded and insane pipedreams" scale you think having faith in Tesla's Robotaxi falls.
For those purposes, let's use a 1-10 scale where 1 is "I believe that the Sun will rise again tomorrow morning" and 10 is "I believe that someday, 'internet money' will become a trillion+ dollar global market with huge government and institutional investment, and individual 'bitcoins' will be selling for six figures each on the open market."
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Date: July 2nd, 2025 6:51 PM Author: #notflame LOL, sorry that God-Emperor Trump is going to pwn traitor Elon's tiny pink attempts at getting Robotaxi regulatory relief and importing infinity pajeet slave labor for his govt-subsidized enterprises. He's gonna sick DOGE on Tesla and send Elon packing back to Africa (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745428&forum_id=2...id.#49067220) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2025 6:54 PM Author: To be fair (Semi-Retarded) To be fair,
CR, it's all over for Felony Musky.
And then in a beautiful ironic twist of fate, the walls will ALSO finally slam shut on Blondalf Drumpfth, as well!
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Date: July 2nd, 2025 6:15 PM Author: ,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,:,,:,,.,:::,.,,.,:.,,.:.,:.,:.::,. idk much about Tesla’s efforts to play catchup in this space but I took a Waymo the other day and it was 180. Worked flawlessly. Even navigated around a FedEx truck parked in our lane that was stopped while making a delivery. I would never take a Tesla robotaxi though. Even now I cancel my Uber rides if the driver has a Tesla. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745428&forum_id=2...id.#49067129) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2025 6:17 PM Author: To be fair (Semi-Retarded) To be fair,
"Tesla's efforts to play catchup in this space"
Sit down for this...
Granted I am gay and retarded and famously always wrong about everything, but what if in the throes of my laughable delusions, I tried to ridiculously claim that not only is Tesla not "playing catchup in this space," but it's actually the only company currently operating in the world today (including Waymo) that is well-positioned to actually profitably scale up a huge driverless taxi service on a truly global level within the next decade?
How shocked would you be by that obviously false and totally ridiculous claim, on a scale of 1-10? |
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Date: July 2nd, 2025 6:27 PM Author: faggotmaster (🧐) They are in an extremely literal sense playing catchup because another company rolled it out first. There's none of your faggy "haha but whatabout ACKSHUALLLLY" handwaving to do here
That's just in the US of course, Baidu (and others I'm sure) already began rolling out service in China |
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Date: July 2nd, 2025 6:30 PM Author: To be fair (Semi-Retarded) To be fair,
"Another company rolled it out first"
Holy shit... you're telling me that another company has previously rolled out a driverless camera-only (Note: technologically speaking, this is literally the only viable path that exists to facilitate fast and cost-effective global scaling in this realm and that claim is going to age just like my c. 2013 "BTC is the future" threads) taxi service?
Wow, OK, that is huge, and I stand corrected. Sounds like Tesla actually is playing catch-up, in that case. I follow this space very closely and I legitimately didn't know that.
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Date: July 2nd, 2025 6:36 PM Author: faggotmaster (🧐) You're just going to keep redifining the scope to be whatever suits your argument. "Note: technologically speaking, this is the only viable path that exists to facilitate cost-effective global scaling in this realm" -> just casually state a premise that can't be proven correct or incorrect by its very nature.
"But that's not what I meant by catchup. ACKSHUALLY this is what I meant! Ha HA!"
Great man, you win, because you just constantly handwave away anyone scrutinizing what you're saying with a whataboutism. You called BTC (which means you clearly are worth at a minimum tens of millions of dollars, and likely hundreds of millions if you followed your own advice), so who am I to argue. |
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Date: July 2nd, 2025 6:40 PM Author: To be fair (Semi-Retarded) To be fair,
Claiming that [X approach] represents the only viable path to achieve [Y goal] is an important exercise in defining a single necessary win condition, not some Talmudic "hehe" bullshit move that facilitates endless goalpoast moving in perpetuity. Either that single falsifiable and factual claim ends up being being proven correct by market performance over the next decade, or it ends up being proven wrong.
Incidentally, Elon Musk would not only agree with that assertion, but he has literally bet his flagship company and tens of billions of dollars of his personal fortune on it being correct.
...but I have to admit that a bunch of self-proclaimed "experts" who have been consistently yet smugly wrong about a ton of shit over the last decade do seem to be convinced that Elon (aka the richest man in the world and the guy who has consistently placed big measured bets which beat long odds over and over again for several decades now) is fundamentally misguided on this.
Guess we'll see who wins!
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Date: July 2nd, 2025 6:43 PM Author: faggotmaster (🧐) Elon also thought OpenAI was a retarded failure after seeing GPT1 and its incoherent chatbabble. Not like it ended up leading to a technology which has already had an insane impact and is potentially the bedrock for changing the nature of labor itself, or that years later he decided it was important enough to found his own lab to pursue development of said technology. Clearly he's infallible and your line of reasoning is flawless. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745428&forum_id=2...id.#49067197) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2025 6:45 PM Author: To be fair (Semi-Retarded) To be fair,
You raise the important point that Elon Musk is not, in fact, a literally infallible God who is never wrong about anything.
Fair. Damn, I probably should have taken that into account. I guess in retrospect, it's likely that he probably blew his call on this one, too, even though FSD tech has been his professional obsession and his single greatest point of technical specialization for a decade now. :(
...anyway, guess we'll see who wins!
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Date: July 2nd, 2025 6:48 PM Author: faggotmaster (🧐) You could very easily prove you've won by showing the bets you've made and how they paid off with your vast fortune. That would really pwn us all. There's no need to wait ten years even, btc has 5000x'd since 2013! Let us bask in your powers of foresight, O Great Oracle. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745428&forum_id=2...id.#49067210) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2025 6:49 PM Author: To be fair (Semi-Retarded) To be fair,
"Show the bets you've made"
I'm the guy who has been stockpiling TSLA for the better part of a decade and who has never sold a single share, even when the value temporarily tanked or the entire MSM apparatus turned on Elon and started talking about what a retard he was and how badly he had screwed the pooch and how Tesla was now circling the drain and it was all over, etc etc etc.
SOURCE: All of the many XO threads I've made shilling for Elon and hawking TSLA over that time, feel free to go look them up if you actually care enough (you don't).
HTH! |
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Date: July 2nd, 2025 6:51 PM Author: faggotmaster (🧐) That's great man, really great. But it's just not the same kind of PWNAGE as bragging about the real world benefits all this foresight and trust in your own instincts has brought you. The haters would be FUMING. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745428&forum_id=2...id.#49067223) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2025 6:53 PM Author: To be fair (Semi-Retarded) To be fair,
Yeah I don't post screenshots or discuss my IRL, sorry brother never have and never will.
If you need to imagine me dressed in rags and shivering under a bridge because I'm too cowardly to sack up and flaunt my shit to a bunch of insane Jews online who despise me and would love to find some way to out me and/or ruin my life if only they could, that's OK I guess I'll just have to live with that somehow. |
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Date: July 2nd, 2025 6:25 PM Author: .,.,.....,.,.;,.,,,:,.,.,::,...,:,..;,.., no you didn't (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745428&forum_id=2...id.#49067151) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2025 6:28 PM Author: To be fair (Semi-Retarded) To be fair,
Trust me, I know libs -- they are all deeply principled and theywill NEVER take a Tesla Robotaxi, even if they become ubiquitous and super convenient while remaining extremely cheap.
Just like Boomers who hate Felony Musky will NEVER buy one of his Optimus robot helpers, even if doing so would allow them to keep living in their beloved McMansions instead of having to sell and move into gay shitty "retirement communities" filled with annoying old people and weird smells and bad food.
Trust me, I know these things. Libs and Boomers will stand on principle no matter what, even if it requires self-sacrifice! Haha yeah haha. |
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Date: July 2nd, 2025 7:53 PM Author: ,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,:,,:,,.,:::,.,,.,:.,,.:.,:.,:.::,. I can’t think of a reason libs would use Tesla robotaxi when Waymo and Uber are options. Maybe Trump will force them to, or? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745428&forum_id=2...id.#49067369) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2025 8:08 PM Author: To be fair (Semi-Retarded) To be fair,
*Pulls up iphone in Austin*
*Robotaxi = $4.20*
*Uber = $15.90*
*Waymo = 15.90*
Yep, fair enough. I can't think of a single reason, either. Good point. Especially when we're talking about a group of strong-willed folks who are as rich and deeply-principled and gladly self-sacrificing as modern-day American urban-dwelling ride-share-taking shitlibs!
(PS: If you don't already know the fundamental structural reasons/limitations that explain why Waymo will be unable to simply drop their fare prices to compete with Tesla's pricing in the near future, you're legitimately not well informed enough about this topic to be intelligently engaging in this conversation. Unfortunately, you're also probably too stupid to even realize that fact in the first place. It's OK, there are many such cases!) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2025 6:59 PM Author: Mailer Daemon Waymo is 180, fuck driver scum and elon alike, they all need to go back (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745428&forum_id=2...id.#49067232) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2025 7:00 PM Author: To be fair (Semi-Retarded) To be fair,
Wow!
Which company do you think will be the first to profitably put 1,000,000+ driverless taxis on the streets of America, btw? Just out of curiosity, haha. ;) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2025 7:08 PM Author: Mailer Daemon since when has google cared about profit when killing the competition in a new market they decide to win? serious question (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5745428&forum_id=2...id.#49067257) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2025 7:13 PM Author: To be fair (Semi-Retarded) To be fair,
LJL the term "profitably" genuinely wasn't supposed to serve as some sort of trick modifier... you don't think Tesla would and could go the matt with Google if they both decided to get real retarded in this space and just start burning money to publicly wave their dicks at each other? They're both trillion dollar companies, that isn't a David v. Goliath matchup. Or maybe you don't think Elon is constitutionally willing to burn money and get retarded if he gets challenged to do so by a major competitor?
But sure, let's just strip that out and boil this down to the most basic formulation: Same question, minus the term "profitably."
I'm betting the answer is Tesla, and I'm also betting that 2nd place won't even be close (meaning that Tesla will field exponentially more cars than its closest competitor in the race to get 1,000,000 driverless taxis on the road).
How about you?
[PS: Just FYI, the best math I've seen on it so far suggests that even at its current absurdly low $4.20/ride price point which blows every other taxi service including Waymo completely out of the water by a laughable margin, Tesla's robotaxi fleet hits break-even once the current 1:1 ratio of cars : "supervisors" drops to 3:1... it becomes absurdly profitable once that ratio drops to 5:1... and it basically becomes a literal money-printing machine after all of the "supervisors" are completely removed from the equation. And again, that's at $4.20/trip for pretty much any fare around any major metro area. And that's against a backdrop where your average car company is delighted if they end the year with a 13-15% overall operational profit margin. Almost like Tesla isn't really "a car company," after all! IMO that math might be one reason why Elon doesn't seem too concerned about the future of Tesla as a company and also why by his own admission he really hasn't been too focused on developing and rolling out "new models" of Tesla vehicles to sell to the public for purposes of private vehicle ownership.] |