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Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
unholy charcoal hell dingle berry
  06/14/13
just walk outside bro
Saffron impertinent idea he suggested
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(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
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Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the la...
Stimulating personal credit line
  05/29/25
Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitar...
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(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded ...
Stimulating personal credit line
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They were better because you had different tribal clans owni...
sexy chapel community account
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read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of ...
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Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the P...
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what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
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I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on ju...
fighting khaki field candlestick maker
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teen black death survivors were the original Boomers
Lascivious striped hyena friendly grandma
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i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf ...
fuchsia fluffy dilemma
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Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as ba...
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really depended on the country, the region, and the lord re...
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: unholy charcoal hell dingle berry

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#23393887)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: Saffron impertinent idea he suggested

just walk outside bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#48969812)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: Saffron impertinent idea he suggested

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#48969813)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Saffron impertinent idea he suggested



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#48985020)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
Author: Saffron impertinent idea he suggested



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#48997575)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: Saffron impertinent idea he suggested



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49064860)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM
Author: Saffron impertinent idea he suggested



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49070377)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM
Author: Saffron impertinent idea he suggested



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49077411)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: Saffron impertinent idea he suggested



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49084518)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: Saffron impertinent idea he suggested



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49098591)



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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49101058)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49105012)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49117359)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: Stimulating personal credit line

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#48969854)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: sexy chapel community account

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#48969860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: Stimulating personal credit line

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#48969863)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: sexy chapel community account

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#48969954)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: Stimulating personal credit line

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#48971066)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Lascivious striped hyena friendly grandma

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49065184)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: Abnormal obsidian alpha rigor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49098592)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: Purple dopamine



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49098608)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: Multi-colored bright marketing idea sneaky criminal

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#48970037)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: Iridescent Vengeful Locale Knife

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#48970041)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: fighting khaki field candlestick maker

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#48985033)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: Lascivious striped hyena friendly grandma

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49065206)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: fuchsia fluffy dilemma

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#48997602)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: Alcoholic emerald set gunner

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49065026)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: waste land of reality

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2...id.#49105022)