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did anyone ever read mitchell heisman's 1900 page suicide note?
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Date: December 15th, 2022 5:35 PM Author: Aggressive volcanic crater it has fairly decent reviews on goodreads:
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/9429159-suicide-note
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/mitchell-heisman-suicide_n_738121
https://archive.org/details/MitchellHeismanSuicideNote
i tried starting it but it seems terrible |
Date: December 15th, 2022 5:38 PM Author: Opaque mediation dog poop you're in luck i just made a thread about this
https://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5249019&mc=8&forum_id=2
imo it's worth a read, and i especially think that after i started my re-read recently
once you get a bit into it, you can quickly recognize redundant parts that you can skip because he's not introducing any new ideas or arguments. it makes it a lot less of a slog |
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Date: December 15th, 2022 5:41 PM Author: Aggressive volcanic crater what is the takeaway from it? his writing style is really disjointed, he comes across as a rambling schizophrenic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5253616&forum_id=2...id.#45639495) |
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Date: December 15th, 2022 5:59 PM Author: Opaque mediation dog poop he was pretty autistic and schizo but definitely high IQ and he has coherent ideas
his big ideas are
1. the norman-saxon conflict and the jewish/christian vs. roman/nazism conflict defining the last 2000 years of human history and particularly the post-enlightenment era. essentially, slave morality vs master morality (this is a very simplified version of his overall thesis)
2. "liberal" slave morality and "anti-liberal" master morality being tied to technological vs. biological evolutionary selections and pressures, respectively. a very simplified version of his overall thesis on this is that post-enlightenment "liberalism" is necessarily a dead-end suicide ideology when viewed from the standpoint of biological evolution: we are doomed to our own destruction as a species if liberalism is followed to its natural conclusion. in contrast, master morality is associated with mankind deliberately seizing control of biological evolution, enabling the strongest and the fittest to set the terms of our biological destiny
he's not the first person to make these kinds of arguments, but i found his ideas on them interesting and generally accurate. particularly the recognition that rejecting liberalism is not enough - there are always evolutionary pressures, and if the biologically suicidal liberalist path toward technological singularity is rejected, then other forces will act as evolutionary pressures instead. we as the human race (or factions within the human race) must deliberately seize control of our own biological destiny, or other forces will do it for us |
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Date: December 15th, 2022 6:01 PM Author: Aggressive volcanic crater okay, it just seems like that could have been written tightly and concisely in a couple hundred pages and not 1900 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5253616&forum_id=2...id.#45639596) |
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Date: December 15th, 2022 6:05 PM Author: Aggressive volcanic crater also what gave you the impetus to read all 1900 pages of that, lol? what are your current thoughts on things (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5253616&forum_id=2...id.#45639617) |
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Date: December 15th, 2022 6:08 PM Author: Opaque mediation dog poop not flame i was pretty suicidal at one point in my life and i saw a link to his work when i was idly googling stuff and i got curious and read the whole thing
tbh it's way better the second time around now that i'm older and wiser. i think im gonna read some more of it this weekend. i'm autistic and i love this kind of shit
my current thoughts on things are that this guy was more or less right on the money. the human condition is always going to be a struggle for supremacy among different groups who are existentially opposed to each other. the only cr is to play to win and dominate all others for the good of your own kind, at the expense of everyone else
and i'm not necessarily talking about "racial" conflict btw. i'd rather live in a multi-racial society of all 140+ IQ autists than an all-white society. they are much more My Kind than some prole white Q-anon idiot |
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Date: December 15th, 2022 6:09 PM Author: Aggressive volcanic crater glad it helped u then (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5253616&forum_id=2...id.#45639635) |
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Date: December 15th, 2022 6:13 PM Author: Aggressive volcanic crater its interesting u put so much stock in IQ
IQ is neither a determinant of being correct nor of having a kind or good heart. it's basically just faster processing power
i'm in a couple of group chats with high IQ-mos and honestly they make me sick with their arrogance, short sightedness and greed |
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Date: December 15th, 2022 6:31 PM Author: Opaque mediation dog poop it's a question of who Your People and Kind are. high IQ bros are like me. they are My Kind. they are kindred spirits with me. i feel connected to them in a way that i do not feel connected to other human beings
i feel this same way in lesser and varying degrees to the various other groups of people who i have kinship and commonalities with: men, white people, americans, etc. all i'm saying is that my kinship with high IQ people is the strongest of any of these
once you recognize that the human condition is just an existential struggle of your own kind vs. everyone else, the question of "who is your own kind" becomes paramount |
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Date: December 15th, 2022 6:32 PM Author: Aggressive volcanic crater my kind is internet autistic weirdo highly antisocial non-NPC loser clique losers, some of whom are homosexual. race seems to be less of a factor than being FUCKING WEIRD (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5253616&forum_id=2...id.#45639765) |
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Date: December 16th, 2022 1:42 AM Author: Opaque mediation dog poop agreed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5253616&forum_id=2...id.#45641522) |
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Date: December 16th, 2022 1:50 AM Author: Aggressive volcanic crater http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5253828&mc=10&forum_id=2 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5253616&forum_id=2...id.#45641539) |
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Date: December 15th, 2022 6:10 PM Author: Hairraiser Obsidian Church Building (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5253616&forum_id=2...id.#45639638) |
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Date: May 20th, 2025 12:00 PM Author: Opaque mediation dog poop (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5253616&forum_id=2...id.#48947079) |
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Date: December 15th, 2022 5:42 PM Author: stimulating silver cruise ship I don't even read TBF tp screeds. I ain't reading 1900 pages of anything. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5253616&forum_id=2...id.#45639502) |
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Date: December 15th, 2022 5:43 PM Author: Aggressive volcanic crater i would if it was really good. but it doesn't seem good enough to get 10 pages into (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5253616&forum_id=2...id.#45639506) |
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Date: December 15th, 2022 6:13 PM Author: aquamarine pontificating piazza Wtf is this shit. The elites are really going to start glorifying and promoting suicide as the next step. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5253616&forum_id=2...id.#45639656) |
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Date: December 15th, 2022 6:14 PM Author: Aggressive volcanic crater i dont understand your question or how that relates to op (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5253616&forum_id=2...id.#45639661) |
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Date: December 15th, 2022 6:16 PM Author: aquamarine pontificating piazza The question is "wtf is this shit?"
The shit I'm referring to is the suicide note mentioned in the OP. As in, wtf is this literal garbage shit?
Hth. |
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Date: December 15th, 2022 6:16 PM Author: Aggressive volcanic crater it's literally a suicide note (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5253616&forum_id=2...id.#45639681) |
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Date: December 15th, 2022 6:17 PM Author: aquamarine pontificating piazza No. It's shit garbage. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5253616&forum_id=2...id.#45639687) |
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Date: December 15th, 2022 6:17 PM Author: Aggressive volcanic crater you seem triggered. why does it trigger you, friend? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5253616&forum_id=2...id.#45639688) |
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Date: December 15th, 2022 6:18 PM Author: aquamarine pontificating piazza Shit garbage triggers me to call it shit garbage. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5253616&forum_id=2...id.#45639692) |
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Date: December 16th, 2022 1:14 AM Author: charismatic cuck institution Gas yourself you hooked nosed kike (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5253616&forum_id=2...id.#45641441) |
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Date: March 31st, 2023 12:15 PM Author: Opaque mediation dog poop (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5253616&forum_id=2...id.#46123127) |